by mithya
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Hello Guys,

I was looking for a private PPV forum to learn PPV and got recommended to PPVguru by one of the warriors. So, i thought if some of you had any experience with it that you can share ? Thanks for the help.
#ppvguru #review
  • Profile picture of the author MTVida
    I haven't heard of PPVGuru, but if you're looking for a good PPV forum, I'd say your best bet is Affiliate Playbook.
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  • Profile picture of the author altoro80
    I am a member of PPVGuru, i started with PPV a couple of months ago, i did set up a few campaigns i spent my $200 deposit on LI to make $5.75 on 1 conversion, a little over a month ago researching on the WSO subforum i found a thread about this WSO PPV Guru Spy so i clicked on the buy link it took me to PPVGuru forum so i talked to Lee (the owner) and joined the forum.

    After i joined i started looking at what he has in the forum, i has hundreds of campaigns ready for you to run, you can get his WSO's for free, there are sections for LI, TV and MT. You get a lot of support on how to run campaigns and where to run them, he owns a Private CPA network where you can find offers needed and if you cannot find the offer in another network just talk to Lee he might be able to get it for you.

    So i think is a great forum, i learned a lot from there, i am already at profit i am running a few campaigns and still looking to get more to run.

    Hope that helps.

    Alex
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  • Profile picture of the author sree94
    I have been a member of both PPV Guru and Affplaybook, and PPV Guru is MUCH better
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    • Profile picture of the author QtoBrooklyn
      Originally Posted by sree94 View Post

      I have been a member of both PPV Guru and Affplaybook, and PPV Guru is MUCH better
      ok... well.. how is it better?
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      • Profile picture of the author systemload
        I'm a member of PPVGURU and recently joined affplaybook to take a look but the difference is huge if you are into PPV, in favor of ppvguru.
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      • Profile picture of the author PPV Affiliate
        I never reply to stuff like this unless I see something that's actively trying to scam people, or that actually harms our industry and ppvguru appears to be both. I had never heard of this forum so decided to join and see what it was about.

        Now, before I get someone coming in with the obligatory 'u mad bro?' let me say that I really don't care one way or another if there are other forums. If Aff Playbook wasn't your thing, that's cool but give one of the other forums that actually teaches you something a shot instead of this garbage. Trust me, I would much rather see STM or IMGrind go out of business because both those forums are popular and have some great content. The reason you don't see me saying anything bad about them (apart from the occasional poking fun) is because they actually teach you something and the people that run them are experienced marketers who can show you how to make good money.

        Now that we have that out of the way, I'll get to why I think everyone should steer clear of ppvguru. When I joined, I expected to see some lessons or case studies. Instead, most of the content is 'outed' campaigns. Meaning, they find campaigns through spying and then post them in the forum. One thread I read, they posted a campaign that happened to be from one of the members. This member asked it to be taken down, and was told they would do so as long as the person stayed a member. This was one of many examples.

        This pissed me off. Everyone spys, and people rip campaigns all the time, but to post this with titles like '$500/day campaign' and charge people money to read this is pretty scammy. That isn't the only issue there...there is simply just bad advice that doesn't teach you anything.

        I've been in the industry a long time, worked with lots of companies, and know lots of people. Because of this, it's easy for me to 'check facts' when I see someone I suspect is full of crap. I can't go into details, but I will say that my suspicions were confirmed and some things there are simply made up.

        If you didn't like Aff Playbook and want to get information you can trust is correct, go join STM or IMGrind (I'm sure there are other good forums too) instead of wasting your money on misinformation.
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        • Profile picture of the author mithya
          Originally Posted by PPV Affiliate View Post

          I never reply to stuff like this unless I see something that's actively trying to scam people, or that actually harms our industry and ppvguru appears to be both. I had never heard of this forum so decided to join and see what it was about.

          Now, before I get someone coming in with the obligatory 'u mad bro?' let me say that I really don't care one way or another if there are other forums. If Aff Playbook wasn't your thing, that's cool but give one of the other forums that actually teaches you something a shot instead of this garbage. Trust me, I would much rather see STM or IMGrind go out of business because both those forums are popular and have some great content. The reason you don't see me saying anything bad about them (apart from the occasional poking fun) is because they actually teach you something and the people that run them are experienced marketers who can show you how to make good money.

          Now that we have that out of the way, I'll get to why I think everyone should steer clear of ppvguru. When I joined, I expected to see some lessons or case studies. Instead, most of the content is 'outed' campaigns. Meaning, they find campaigns through spying and then post them in the forum. One thread I read, they posted a campaign that happened to be from one of the members. This member asked it to be taken down, and was told they would do so as long as the person stayed a member. This was one of many examples.

          This pissed me off. Everyone spys, and people rip campaigns all the time, but to post this with titles like '$500/day campaign' and charge people money to read this is pretty scammy. That isn't the only issue there...there is simply just bad advice that doesn't teach you anything.

          I've been in the industry a long time, worked with lots of companies, and know lots of people. Because of this, it's easy for me to 'check facts' when I see someone I suspect is full of crap. I can't go into details, but I will say that my suspicions were confirmed and some things there are simply made up.

          If you didn't like Aff Playbook and want to get information you can trust is correct, go join STM or IMGrind (I'm sure there are other good forums too) instead of wasting your money on misinformation.
          Hi David,

          I was seriously thinking about joining PPVguru. But the fact that a person's own campaign would be taken down on request only if he stays as a member really scares me.
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          • Profile picture of the author PPV Affiliate
            Originally Posted by mithya View Post

            Hi David,

            I was seriously thinking about joining PPVguru. But the fact that a person's own campaign would be taken down on request only if he stays as a member really scares me.
            That would be the least of my worries with that place if that tells you anything.
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          • Profile picture of the author PPV Affiliate
            Originally Posted by kmcn123 View Post

            "One thread I read, they posted a campaign that happened to be from one of the members. This member asked it to be taken down, and was told they would do so as long as the person stayed a member. This was one of many examples"
            That is a flat out lie! I am so surprised at your reaction and distortion..
            No, unfortunately it's not a lie.

            That was just one of the issues I posted about. Since I posted this I've got a few PM's and emails about this guy too.
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                • Profile picture of the author PPV Affiliate
                  Originally Posted by kmcn123 View Post

                  No need to PM, just post it here. I particularly remember this thread. You could leave pieces out to make it look like you say but that is not the case. I guess I am just dumbfounded why you are obsessed to disparage PPVGuru. If you look at the WSOs he has sold, the responses buyers have posted and the responses he has posted you can see he is for real. AffPlaybook has spy tools. So what is the issue? He just shows you how to use them. "Me doth think he protest too much!"
                  Originally Posted by kmcn123 View Post

                  Are you serious? Are you serious! Look what he posted. Are you so obtuse you could not see he was kidding! Let me know what forum you are part of...I want to make sure I have nothing to do with it. FYI, smiley face with wink gives it away. You need to brush up on emoticons.
                  Yes, I am serious. Like I said that was one of many examples like that. Good luck in your endeavors!
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          Originally Posted by PPV Affiliate View Post

          When I joined, I expected to see some lessons or case studies.............
          When you joined, you must have paid for the upgrade? I signed up without upgrading and I couldn't find access to anything except a few reviews.

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          • Profile picture of the author PPV Affiliate
            Originally Posted by bit twiddler View Post

            When you joined, you must have paid for the upgrade? I signed up without upgrading and I couldn't find access to anything except a few reviews.

            T J
            Yeah, I did. The site is set up so you have to pay to access more, and if you want a Traffic Vance referral you have to be a paying member for 3 months. I talked to TV about this and they already knew about this idiot.
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        • Profile picture of the author speedylikesKJ
          I had a little doubt but after reading Davids response i have more doubt but i have no personal experience with ppv guru so cant say 100% ....
          Originally Posted by PPV Affiliate View Post

          I never reply to stuff like this unless I see something that's actively trying to scam people, or that actually harms our industry and ppvguru appears to be both. I had never heard of this forum so decided to join and see what it was about.

          Now, before I get someone coming in with the obligatory 'u mad bro?' let me say that I really don't care one way or another if there are other forums. If Aff Playbook wasn't your thing, that's cool but give one of the other forums that actually teaches you something a shot instead of this garbage. Trust me, I would much rather see STM or IMGrind go out of business because both those forums are popular and have some great content. The reason you don't see me saying anything bad about them (apart from the occasional poking fun) is because they actually teach you something and the people that run them are experienced marketers who can show you how to make good money.

          Now that we have that out of the way, I'll get to why I think everyone should steer clear of ppvguru. When I joined, I expected to see some lessons or case studies. Instead, most of the content is 'outed' campaigns. Meaning, they find campaigns through spying and then post them in the forum. One thread I read, they posted a campaign that happened to be from one of the members. This member asked it to be taken down, and was told they would do so as long as the person stayed a member. This was one of many examples.

          This pissed me off. Everyone spys, and people rip campaigns all the time, but to post this with titles like '$500/day campaign' and charge people money to read this is pretty scammy. That isn't the only issue there...there is simply just bad advice that doesn't teach you anything.

          I've been in the industry a long time, worked with lots of companies, and know lots of people. Because of this, it's easy for me to 'check facts' when I see someone I suspect is full of crap. I can't go into details, but I will say that my suspicions were confirmed and some things there are simply made up.

          If you didn't like Aff Playbook and want to get information you can trust is correct, go join STM or IMGrind (I'm sure there are other good forums too) instead of wasting your money on misinformation.
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  • Profile picture of the author alchebank
    You can check WSO in my signature. I'm one of serious PPV marketers.
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  • Profile picture of the author elbeer
    A review from a competing site are always a good read lol
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  • Profile picture of the author altoro80
    Do you offer TV referral to anyone that join your forum? because if you do i will join it right now to get the referral and tomorrow i will ask for refund of my money.
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  • Profile picture of the author vinku
    I wasted my money with Aff Playbook and PPVGuru is far better. I'm making money because of PPVGuru. Lee is good in what he is teaching us.
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      • Profile picture of the author QtoBrooklyn
        Originally Posted by warbo View Post

        First, don't buy individual product downloads at PPVGuru. Each of these usually costs £29.95 or £39.95, and you only get one pdf document - That's it. Instead, you better join the PPVGuru Forum at £49.95, and you will be able to have two free downloads, which is a £10-£30 saving. Plus, you can access most of the Forum content.
        Welp, wish i knew that before i bought the PPV guru spy PDF last night..
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        • Profile picture of the author bigbenre
          Both are good forums and legit, and each have there pros and cons.

          Affplaybook:
          - David is very nice, helpful and teaches with positive attitude.
          - The PPV tools are better in Affplaybook
          - Affplaybook has been around for a while, so the forum has much more content.
          - Most well respected PPV forum on internet, and now goes into all types of internet marketing.
          - More affordable than the latter.

          PPVGuru:
          - Lee is straight to the point and doesn't really sugarcoat anything. In some cases he comes off a little aggressive, and if you are easily offended, than you will surely be offended by something.
          - Great raw data of campaigns.
          - Some of his downloads I have found some golden nuggets for myself.

          I would like to comment on the "give a man a fish comment". For me having the raw campaign is not about copying and pasting. Its more about having a foundation to work off of. For example most campaigns that are given, i dont even have access to exact offer, but at least i have an example of a landing and a quick start keyword list.

          In conclusion, they are both great forums and serve different purposes. Depending on your learning style and where you are at in your PPV career will dictate which is a better choice for you.

          Hope this Helps!
          -Ben
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            • Profile picture of the author elbeer
              Originally Posted by royst View Post

              I was a member for a couple of months. I tried several of the scrips before the membership was tiered into more expensive layers of access. Unfortunately no success. The forum was still relatively new at the time and I read everything in there without finding anything more than "work in progress" ie no real case studies producing documented results. I suspect there is a lot more content in there by now. I admit that I did learn some things and I agree that if you catch Lee on a generous day he will make an extra effort to assist.
              I am always generous with assisting. What I dont like is people sending me messages telling me how terrible their life is and that I need to give them a campaign that will make them $x,xxx per day.

              The idea of the forum is to show how its done, and to get you to do the work. If you dont do the work and I do it all for you then there is no point in me having the forum I could just do it all myself.

              There are over 400 campaigns, over 60 ebooks and scripts available. Yes the forum has only been alive for 6 month but hey Rome was not built in a day.

              Happy new year to you all even the guy who slagged me off.
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  • Profile picture of the author Al amin
    Still I am confused which to join?
    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author altoro80
    I am a member of PPVGuru and i won the 1 month free from KJ's blog to aff playbook, i saw a lot of case studies by David but they were from 2010, nothing really new, while on PPVGuru we get live case studies with live stats.

    I know you know your stuff KJ, (even Lee from PPVGuru told me to listen to you because you know a lot), but i think to be able to say something to a forum or anything else yo have to be there, David has his opinion of the forum but i think his is thinking like his competition not giving his opinion as a forum member.

    I have to say thanks to theguru no i have a bunch of profitable campaigns running on LI, TV and 50onred, i am on my way to quit my day job.

    Alex
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    • Profile picture of the author PPV Affiliate
      Originally Posted by altoro80 View Post

      i saw a lot of case studies by David but they were from 2010, nothing really new, while on PPVGuru we get live case studies with live stats.
      I just checked, and there are hundreds of case studies from 2010 all the way through 2013. Maybe you missed those
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      • Profile picture of the author altoro80
        Originally Posted by PPV Affiliate View Post

        I just checked, and there are hundreds of case studies from 2010 all the way through 2013. Maybe you missed those
        Maybe i did missed them, i was looking for case studies from you, from the guy the knows a lot, the one i saw was a skin on 50onred, that was from 2011 i think, not sure.
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    • Profile picture of the author speedylikesKJ
      Thanks i guess is time to look into it personally , Thanks for your response
      Originally Posted by altoro80 View Post

      I am a member of PPVGuru and i won the 1 month free from KJ's blog to aff playbook, i saw a lot of case studies by David but they were from 2010, nothing really new, while on PPVGuru we get live case studies with live stats.

      I know you know your stuff KJ, (even Lee from PPVGuru told me to listen to you because you know a lot), but i think to be able to say something to a forum or anything else yo have to be there, David has his opinion of the forum but i think his is thinking like his competition not giving his opinion as a forum member.

      I have to say thanks to theguru no i have a bunch of profitable campaigns running on LI, TV and 50onred, i am on my way to quit my day job.

      Alex
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      • Profile picture of the author stesnees
        PPVGuru all the way for me. I just recently had my best ever day online due to Lee and his methods.
        Lee is a straight up guy and takes no crap, but whenever I have grabbed him on Skype for a quick chat he has helped me no end. Big thumbs up for me
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        • Profile picture of the author elbeer
          Originally Posted by stesnees View Post

          PPVGuru all the way for me. I just recently had my best ever day online due to Lee and his methods.
          Lee is a straight up guy and takes no crap, but whenever I have grabbed him on Skype for a quick chat he has helped me no end. Big thumbs up for me
          Thanks mate LOL didnt realise this was you. Keep it going big bucks coming your way
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  • Profile picture of the author elbeer
    You guys are gonna give me a complex saying I am tough lol. I just dont sugar coat anything. To me there is no point in telling you what you are doing is right when it is clearly wrong. This would just waste your time and money.

    Thanks for the kind words and lets hope everyone from warrior has a successful year no matter which forum they are a member of as at the end of the day thats what we are all here to do.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    How'd I miss this one?

    I don't belong to either forum so I have no clue which is better. But I think the term "case study" should be defined universally. Posting a paragraph with a screenshot of something is NOT a case study. A case study shows steps taken, changes made, explains why things were done and then shows results. A case study is not, "I promoted ABC offer on traffic vance and made $1,000". Anyhow, that's just my pet peeve as the term is used on a lot of stuff that is far from a case study imho.

    Next is the "outdated material" jab that all forums have to deal with. Marketing is marketing, it doesn't change much and hasn't for decades. The medium changes sometimes and the technology does, but the actual nitty gritty of what is going on does not change. So something from 2010 is discounted automatically because of the date on it? That's not right. The method would still work but the technology or systems might have changed. The outdated word is hilarious online. Apparently anything older then 24 hours is auto-outdated and instantly glossed over by anyone trying to learn.

    The real kicker is "case studies" from people who are making it look like they're doing white hat, legit stuff, when in reality they're cloaking it all. AND they're dangerously close to getting a knock on their door from the FTC. They show magnificient stats and are idolized, yet their business is one of complete deception. I'm not knocking cloaking, it has its place and is a business model I suppose. BUT to masquerade as white hat is not right. I've seen that a lot of times and when people try to do it themselves they end up losing big time because they think cloaking is the magic key they needed to the kingdom. In reality they needed to know the basics and get some experience with funnels and paths FIRST then look at how to cloak everything and run that kind of business.

    But I digress, telling someone to learn the basics and showing them that is boring and doesn't put asses in the seats. Give them what they want then give them what they NEED.

    I say try them both and decided for yourself!

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  • Profile picture of the author elbeer
    I would disagree. Offers change, traffic changes, people change. All this affects how you market it especially via something like ppv.

    Each to their own. Sometimes there is no right or wrong.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    Yes those do change, but the underlying fundamentals of marketing do not. That's what I'm saying.

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  • Profile picture of the author altoro80
    I had my $400+ day a few days ago, thanks to Lee and his forum, i have been having $100 to $200+ days but this past Tuesday was very exiting
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  • Profile picture of the author Dukulal
    So where is the link to ppv guru website? I can't find it anywhere.
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    • Profile picture of the author QtoBrooklyn
      Originally Posted by Dukulal View Post

      So where is the link to ppv guru website? I can't find it anywhere.
      elbeer's signature. or Google works too.
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  • Profile picture of the author BigGameHunter
    Here is my review of PPV Guru.
    I am going to add PPV to my list of traffic funnels in 2014. I read this thread so I joined PPV Guru yesterday. Cost $101.00 per month U.S. for the middle of the road plan.

    This forum is for advanced PPV marketers without a doubt. Those with experience who have accounts set up with Lead Impact, Traffic Vance ($1000 initial deposits) etc... have their tracking software (Prosper 202) set up, know how to put up pop up landers and know how to take a campaign and run with it, this will be a good fit.

    If your a Newbie you better have tough skin and be patient. He may come across a tough on the surface, but behind the scenes he is a teddy bear.

    To some this may sound like a harsh review. In reality I believe I just did Lee a favor because I believe he prefers working with experienced PPV marketers. He prefers not to teach Pee Wee Football, he is an NFL coach and is happiest with pro players.

    There is some merit to going to Aff Playbook, STM, IMGrind and others too get your feet wet.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dynamite23
      Originally Posted by BigGameHunter View Post


      This forum is for advanced PPV marketers without a doubt.

      I have to disagree with that. I joined the PPV Guru with no knowledge of PPV at all. I have learned how to create landing pages how to target and set up campaigns. How to setup tracking and how to optimize my campaigns.

      If your a newbie then it's a great place to start the forum is packed with great information all about PPV. Lee(PPV Guru) is not a teddy bear far from it he is a true PPV Master. Lee not afraid to tell you off if you're doing something wrong. His inside knowledge of PPV is unbelievable.

      There is a great community on the forum, and members will help you with your campaigns and how to make them profitable. Since i joined the forum i am now making money in PPV. There is raw data on campaigns keyword landers, the're also follow along campaigns tools and competitions.

      If your serious about PPV then the forum is a good place to start. If you don't like it, then just cancel as easy as that. I have gone from loseing money to makeing money with help of Lee and the forum.

      Thank you Lee, i owe you many beers my friend.
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  • Profile picture of the author Inferno272
    just outta curiosity...do you pay for your membership and then also have to pay for each of the guides as well?
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  • Profile picture of the author altoro80
    You pay for membership and WSO's and tools are free
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    • Profile picture of the author thailanddave
      I posted another review on PPV Guru in another thread but I'll post one here too.

      This is a top quality forum all the way. The owner has a great deal of experience and it shows in the info he gives. You can tell he does PPV for a living.

      The board is broken down into general discussion, a section on each of the big 4 PPV networks, Lead Impact, 50 on Red, Traffic Vance and Media traffic. Each section gives you help and insites into setting up campaigns.

      Next section is called Lazy PPV where he researches other campaigns he has found. This gives you the offer page, the network that has the offer, the start date and the keywords. You could simply copy these campaigns but the smart thing to so is to study it, copy the good parts, improve it etc. Its a big help to see what others are doing when you are new. If a campaign has been running for a year, its probably making money.

      PPV Guru has many many WSO type downloads. They may be a complete landing page script or the top 50 or 100 campaigns found on the Lead Impact server. This is research info you would probably do for yourself if you had time or knew how to do. Or you could just buy it by joining PPV Guru. Depending on your membership, you get either 3 or 9 free downloads per month. There is a wide variety of usuable landing pages, just change the offer codes. That in itself makes it worth the money for a couple months.

      there is a vip section with advanced topics such as protecting your campaigns from prying eyes of other PPV marketers who want to steal your stuff just as it has been stolen for the Lazy PPV section. Dont forget, this isn't the only place you can find your competitors landing pages. There is are also sites like Box of Ads that do essentially the same thing. Do you want to know what your competition is up to? You should.

      I have made money since the 2nd day I joined. Had to wait a day to my first campaign approved. I can't say that about any other WSO I have purchased and I have a library of hundreds.

      Early in this thread there was a debate on whether PPV Guru is an instruction course or not. No, its not a real step-by-step course, its more of a look behind the scenes. This is how a successful PPV marketer does things. There really is no big secret formula. You find an offer on a network like Peerfly or Maxbounty. You find URLs you want your landing page to "Pop" over, build a landing page and 24 hours later start tracking the results. Throw out the keywords or URLs that don't convert. What PPV Guru does is show you how to do the research, gives you the sample landing pages and keyword lists you may want to use.

      As others have noted the "guru" can be short and even rude at times but it doesn't affect the quality of the board. It may limit his longevity as some people don't like to pay a monthly fee and not be treated nicely but thats not your problem or a reason not to try it out.

      You'll get your money's worth and I recommend you try it for at least a month if you are at all interested in PPV. I have some campaigns that are making me $30-50/month on a $5-$10 spend. Its only a matter of finding 100 or 200 of these jewels. I could not have figured this stuff out on my own.
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  • Profile picture of the author Inferno272
    what exactly does the membership side get u?
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  • Profile picture of the author Inferno272
    I don't plan on buying the wsos..but if the membership gives me actionable and unique knowledge I'd check it out.
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  • Profile picture of the author altoro80
    I also started knowing nothing about PPV, and Lee took care of me, he did way more that he really needed to do, helped me a lot, last month i made close to 4k, i started back in october with PPVGuru, that 4k is more than i have made since i started working online all together
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  • Profile picture of the author elbeer
    Forgot about this forum. Thanks for the comments guys. Its interesting to note that even months gone by most of these guys are still forum members.

    Dont forget Mothers day is very soon here in the UK - get your mothers day offers up and running. (flowers, gifts, chocolate, pamper weekends)
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  • Profile picture of the author grafx77
    I have experience with Affplaybook, PPVguru, and GreedReports.

    My all around personal choice is Affplaybook.
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  • Profile picture of the author Toby Henderson
    OK so after buying a ton of ebooks and trying different methods I finally made my first thousand... Most of the books were *Total CRAP but I did come across a guy that does DELIVER THE GOODS... 2 Years after buying his product he still responds to my emails and coaches me personally... (was not included in the product) I kept the product it really taught me a Ton about buying traffic if You have not heard of him I do believe Gauher Chaudrey is the world authority on converting traffic to sales in a MASSIVE WAY ... I am not an affiliate of his meaning I don't get payed to say this... nd there are VERY FEW I would even talk about here on the forum... But go check out his stuff he offers all Free returns ... I never returned anything and some were hi ticket items... go check him out on Google...
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  • Profile picture of the author sree94
    PPV Guru knows his stuff, no doubt

    Just don't ask him a question he doesn't like. He can be a little prickly at times!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mountainbird
      Originally Posted by sree94 View Post

      Just don't ask him a question he doesn't like. He can be a little prickly at times!
      LOL

      That's absolutely right. But he's very honest and straightforward. It's better than always nice but dishonest.

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  • Profile picture of the author elbeer
    I like all questions as long as they are not personal lol. On another note I have heard good things about Gauher Chaudrey.

    Some peoples methods suit some and not others. I certainly prefer not to mess about and try to make you work to find your own answer.

    Nothing wrong with a kick up the butt every now and again. If I have to shout at your for a month to get you to do it right then so be it I will shout at you.

    Enjoy your weekend.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mountainbird
      Originally Posted by elbeer View Post

      On another note I have heard good things about Gauher Chaudrey.
      Oh really? I was thinking he's one of the many fake and scam gurus.

      Originally Posted by elbeer View Post

      If I have to shout at your for a month to get you to do it right then so be it I will shout at you.
      Yes please!

      Originally Posted by elbeer View Post

      Enjoy your weekend.
      You too.
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  • Profile picture of the author dronehawk
    Signed up with them for supervip member for one month. It's an active private forum and guru plus other ppv experts there are very helpful and they try to answer newbie questions well and you get access to good wso downloads.
    Unfortunately I wasn't able to renew my supervip membership but would be like to be back sooner once I get the monthly membership amount.
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  • Profile picture of the author elbeer
    Cheers Speconge and everyone else. More and more people coming to us now getting very busy.
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  • Profile picture of the author elbeer
    Cheers for the review dave. I am not rude I am blunt there is a difference.

    I do not have time to mess about with lame reasons as to why your campaigns dont work. If you show me a landing page and its crap I will tell you its crap and the reason why. I have never been a believer in pussy footing about. This is not personal this is business. If your business is not working and you ask for my advice you will get my advice whether it is nice or not.

    At the end of the day ppv costs money and the quicker you get rid or nip the problems in the bud the better for your wallet. It would be very easy to tell you your landing pages are just ok and let you spend the money and waste it. This is not my style I would prefer to tell you point blank to save you money.
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