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Profit Network Pro

by inkfinite
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The video in the sales page got me real good, hook, line, and sinker..

Basically, he promises to create a product for you, be a vendor, create your sales page, and send emails to his subscribers about your product. In turn, that'll help you create your own list of subscribers, and eventually make a sale.

Throughout the process, you'll need to buy a domain name that "he" is going to suggest, then he's going to have you sign up for JVzoo as a vendor, then sign up for an autoresponder. In 14 days, they'll have your product ready, have it on the JVzoo marketplace, then he's going to promote said product to his own personal list of emails.

Site: profitnetworkpro (dot) com
Price: $397

Verdict: I did not get anything. NOTHING. I did as I was told, and NONE of what he mentioned materialized. Now, I'm trying to request a refund and I'm afraid even that might not happen.

Anyone know a thing or two about this?

His name is "Jerry Brooks" and now I'm not sure if even that is true.
#network #pro #profit
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    When do you sign up for this service and what was the outcome of your dispute with merchant processor?
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  • Profile picture of the author FLced
    How did it turn out for you? I received an email from these guys also, I was going to purchase at first but it sounded a little fishy to me. So I waited to see if someone would post an honest review.
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  • Profile picture of the author nooman ahmed
    Originally Posted by inkfinite View Post

    The video in the sales page got me real good, hook, line, and sinker..

    Basically, he promises to create a product for you, be a vendor, create your sales page, and send emails to his subscribers about your product. In turn, that'll help you create your own list of subscribers, and eventually make a sale.

    Throughout the process, you'll need to buy a domain name that "he" is going to suggest, then he's going to have you sign up for JVzoo as a vendor, then sign up for an autoresponder. In 14 days, they'll have your product ready, have it on the JVzoo marketplace, then he's going to promote said product to his own personal list of emails.

    Site: profitnetworkpro (dot) com
    Price: $397

    Verdict: I did not get anything. NOTHING. I did as I was told, and NONE of what he mentioned materialized. Now, I'm trying to request a refund and I'm afraid even that might not happen.

    Anyone know a thing or two about this?

    His name is "Jerry Brooks" and now I'm not sure if even that is true.
    I should have read this first but I rushed and just purchased it... so did you get your money back
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    • Profile picture of the author Poolee
      Hate to say it, but I got scammed too :-(

      Am in the process of getting a refund through my credit card, as a charge-back. They haven't replied to any emails for over a week. So disappointed in myself for falling for the waste of time and money. I should have known better...

      Funny how you regularly hear, "if it's too good to be true, it usually is" and then still do it anyway!

      So, stay away from "Profit Network Pro"! It's a scam and a rip-off!
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      • Profile picture of the author mageryj
        Here is my experience using Profit Network Pro...

        I signed up 4 weeks ago. Let me first start off by saying I've been doing IM for a while now and was basically looking for a way to automate my income. For someone to build an entire launch for you is huge. So I decided to give it a try.
        It took them about 2 and half weeks to get me a fully built site, which isn't that bad considering it's video instead of salescopy. I really think video converts better these days.

        After they showed me everything it took them another week to get my jvzoo and autoresponder setup on my site. Once they final sent traffic I made $109 in the first day. The next day I made $56. I've made my investment back and so far satisfied with the service. I've read the reviews here and I don't think you guys know what it takes to create a launch and actually do it for other people. I've setup a launch before it was the biggest headache in my life. I can't bad mouth these guys just for the simple fact their offering this and I actually seen a website out of these guys.

        I really don't think it's a scam, I really like the service. Did any of you guys receive anything?

        The problem I had in the beginning when I first started in IM is having patience. All in all I give the service a 7 because if they can respond more often to emails it would be a 10. But they do what they say, it's worth the wait. No one else will do everything for you. That is why I was so patient.

        It's not a scam people, probably a bunch of impatient people that don't understand what it takes to make money online. It's well worth the $397 to me and I'll do it again without blinking.
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        • Profile picture of the author Aristocratic
          Originally Posted by mageryj View Post

          Here is my experience using Profit Network Pro...

          I signed up 4 weeks ago. Let me first start off by saying I've been doing IM for a while now and was basically looking for a way to automate my income. For someone to build an entire launch for you is huge. So I decided to give it a try.
          It took them about 2 and half weeks to get me a fully built site, which isn't that bad considering it's video instead of salescopy. I really think video converts better these days.

          After they showed me everything it took them another week to get my jvzoo and autoresponder setup on my site. Once they final sent traffic I made $109 in the first day. The next day I made $56. I've made my investment back and so far satisfied with the service. I've read the reviews here and I don't think you guys know what it takes to create a launch and actually do it for other people. I've setup a launch before it was the biggest headache in my life. I can't bad mouth these guys just for the simple fact their offering this and I actually seen a website out of these guys.

          I really don't think it's a scam, I really like the service. Did any of you guys receive anything?

          The problem I had in the beginning when I first started in IM is having patience. All in all I give the service a 7 because if they can respond more often to emails it would be a 10. But they do what they say, it's worth the wait. No one else will do everything for you. That is why I was so patient.

          It's not a scam people, probably a bunch of impatient people that don't understand what it takes to make money online. It's well worth the $397 to me and I'll do it again without blinking.
          1st post just so happens to support a product in a thread filled with scam stories?

          I suspet foul. Because my partner bought this last month, took having to make a paypal dispute before login info would be provided because support would not answer emails after 4-5 days. Things seemed nice for a week and a half because communication was back but then when the site was installed 9 days ago, communication stopped. My partner emailed them 9 days ago, 2 days ago, and then again this morn. I suspect by tipping them off to the scam thread here, the 1poster above felt compelled to post so as a result I feel compelled to post. It has been 4 weeks and they have not gathered autoresponder info, jvzoo info, or any relevant info to tie my partner to the site to start promotion to generate a dime.

          Profit Network Pro is most certainly a scam. This is not some impatient client talking either. 4 weeks is excessive when 2 weeks is the estimate. And they stopped responding altogether is another clear indication of their scam.

          Eta: I will update if anything changes, but I recommend asking for a refund and reporting them to paypal and their host.
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          • Profile picture of the author mageryj
            Originally Posted by Aristocratic View Post

            1st post just so happens to support a product in a thread filled with scam stories?

            I suspet foul. Because my partner bought this last month, took having to make a paypal dispute before login info would be provided because support would not answer emails after 4-5 days. Things seemed nice for a week and a half because communication was back but then when the site was installed 9 days ago, communication stopped. My partner emailed them 9 days ago, 2 days ago, and then again this morn. I suspect by tipping them off to the scam thread here, the 1poster above felt compelled to post so as a result I feel compelled to post. It has been 4 weeks and they have not gathered autoresponder info, jvzoo info, or any relevant info to tie my partner to the site to start promotion to generate a dime.

            Profit Network Pro is most certainly a scam. This is not some impatient client talking either. 4 weeks is excessive when 2 weeks is the estimate. And they stopped responding altogether is another clear indication of their scam.

            Eta: I will update if anything changes, but I recommend asking for a refund and reporting them to paypal and their host.
            That is my experience and you just stated you received something so how is that a scam. I just don't like forums and people like this because I'm a product owner also and people just feed a bunch bs because they didn't get their way like little children.
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            • Profile picture of the author OnlineMoneyMechanic
              Interesting but I must say majeryj that when you come online and announce a service and ask for people's hard-earned money...you are expected to DELIVER. Full stop...straight up. Too many people rushing to get into this business and deliver their own product without the basic management skills. .....hence making a bad name for all. I do admit that $397 is a very reasonable price for the service Jerry Brooks offers but the bottom line is delivery of product in specified time for monies paid.
              You should know this as a product owner. They even have a 30-day money-back guarantee. Communication is key.Not good enough. He needs reporting.
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            • Profile picture of the author Aristocratic
              Originally Posted by mageryj View Post

              That is my experience and you just stated you received something so how is that a scam. I just don't like forums and people like this because I'm a product owner also and people just feed a bunch bs because they didn't get their way like little children.
              Receiving something when you paid for something different hardly makes something not a scam. The product advertised is a complete setup with promotion that generates income. The range of income is even clearly stated on the sales page. It is a scam because they did not provide what was paid for as everyone else but you has stated.
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        • Profile picture of the author Desjac
          Originally Posted by mageryj View Post

          Here is my experience using Profit Network Pro...

          I signed up 4 weeks ago. Let me first start off by saying I've been doing IM for a while now and was basically looking for a way to automate my income. For someone to build an entire launch for you is huge. So I decided to give it a try.
          It took them about 2 and half weeks to get me a fully built site, which isn't that bad considering it's video instead of salescopy. I really think video converts better these days.

          After they showed me everything it took them another week to get my jvzoo and autoresponder setup on my site. Once they final sent traffic I made $109 in the first day. The next day I made $56. I've made my investment back and so far satisfied with the service. I've read the reviews here and I don't think you guys know what it takes to create a launch and actually do it for other people. I've setup a launch before it was the biggest headache in my life. I can't bad mouth these guys just for the simple fact their offering this and I actually seen a website out of these guys.

          I really don't think it's a scam, I really like the service. Did any of you guys receive anything?

          The problem I had in the beginning when I first started in IM is having patience. All in all I give the service a 7 because if they can respond more often to emails it would be a 10. But they do what they say, it's worth the wait. No one else will do everything for you. That is why I was so patient.

          It's not a scam people, probably a bunch of impatient people that don't understand what it takes to make money online. It's well worth the $397 to me and I'll do it again without blinking.
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          Tahnk you for your encouraging post. I also signed up for this service 2 weeks ago. Four days ago I send the team my login credentials. Its true its the long wait that get one to doubt. They warn every member about the waiting process though.
          I am still confident.
          Do you mind sharing your website address ?
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          • Profile picture of the author dktech
            Desjac you can forget about getting a link from mageryj. This person is a plant. Once PNP was notified about this post they sent in mageryj to do some damage control.

            I hope you watched the video.

            The other thing that is so sad about PNP. When you log into the "members" area its nothing more than a sales page. There is no value no features no function.

            If you get a web site, product and traffic I would like to see your web site and sales copy. I have a feeling it will look a lot like the crappy site they setup for me. Clearly it was a template web site
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            • Profile picture of the author Desjac
              Hi dktech
              Thanks for your reply.
              I will seriously consider getting a refund, but that seem to be a tough game either. I am living outside of US. The Paypal thing set me off really. This is 20 days ago that bought PNP. Send JZZoo credentials a week ago and still waiting.
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  • Profile picture of the author tradermike
    I am ashamed to admit that I am in the same boat. They have a very compelling sales page & video, and I too fell for it hook, line and sinker.

    I signed up 27 days ago. Initially things looked great and like they were moving fast. I also have been very proactive and doing every little thing they ask within and hour of receiving the request. Yet for whatever reason, communication from them after that initial week has been incredibly slow. I've sent numerous email questions that were pretty basic in nature, yet none of them have been acknowledged.

    They have indeed put up a video based squeeze page that is actually pretty good, IMHO. 11 days ago they sent me an email stating that they just needed my jvzoo and getresponse info and they were basically ready to go. I provided that the same day, but have not heard anything from them since.

    5 days ago a sent a friendly email requesting a status update.

    Like I said, I am dissappointed with myself here. And come Sunday, the end of the 30day guarantee window, I will start down the dispute path.
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  • Profile picture of the author inkfinite
    Update:

    They have my site up but I have yet to see a solid product to be sold. After the site eas done the communication died. Its been about 2 weeks since their last reply.

    According to them, you can only ask for a refund if you dont make money 30 days AFTER everything is set up. When will everything be up and running? That i honestly do not know.
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  • Profile picture of the author franergy
    Don't beat yourselves up over this - not worth it. Getting my money back via Paypal. Lesson learned.

    If you ARE interested in a true Done For You service u should check out Eric Louviere who's well documented and appears to be well-respected online

    I don't know why people care if something is an affiliate link or not if something helps you - but this is a straight link to his video. i'm not an affiliate of this guy but I have watched him online for a few years and he seems to be legit and cool. Let us know if anyone gets his service. Thx.

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  • Profile picture of the author inkfinite
    well.. ill still keep u guys posted..

    Things are moving, i got my product and sales and autoresponder up and running..
    next step is the traffic which they will be handling by sending it to their lists..

    ill be keeping u guys updated whatever the results may be.. but yeah, they did pull it off.. now i just need to earn..
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    • Profile picture of the author dktech
      I too was taken in by the slick sales copy. mageryj calling adults children, if you order something from ebay and you only get part of your order do you think that's okay ?

      PayPal does not protect buyers, so they declined my dispute. I filed a charge back with my bank and did receive my money back.

      I documented my complete process in a video, mageryj please watch and anyone else who wants to avoid this scam. If it's not a scam then it's a really bad business model. mageryj when your emails go unanswered does that make you upset given you spent $400 ?

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      • Profile picture of the author Quincy
        Be forewarned that magerjy is definitely 100% a scam artist. Do not believe anything he has to say. You can search his name yourself. For all I know, magerjy & inkfinite are the same person.
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  • Profile picture of the author Money on the Side
    It's been over a month for me...and nothing. Their support phone numbers on Paypal and other websites are no good (they aren't in service). Their is no response from support. When I checked 5 minutes ago, their website was no longer up (4 of 5 that they own were "missing"). I filed a dispute with PayPal and escalated it to a claim. JVZoo offers no support either...and apparently lets them post new products over and over again, despite the obvious fact that they are a scam.
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  • Profile picture of the author Money on the Side
    I have checked out all the domains that this company has listed on JVzoo. 5 of the 6 are "missing." All of their whois info is blocked/private. Why? Because they are doing this on a regular basis-posting up crap, taking money, not delivering.

    File a complaint with your bank or PayPal, alleging fraud (when they take money and don't provide the service, that is fraud). When they do this to many people, it is organized crime. Minutes after I filed a complaint with PayPal, they quickly posted something and then immediately took it down. They have not delivered.

    Also, file a complaint with ic3.gov. This is the FBI website that investigates this type of online fraud. They will issue subpoenas to find out who really is behind these scam companies and if they receive complaints, they will investigate. They will also freeze not only their bank accounts but their other assets as well (cars, houses, etc).

    File with the FTC. As I recall, they promised refunds. There have been no refunds given to me so I'm sure others are in the same boat. The FTC can also issue subpoenas and they can sue and get us paid back through their assets. http://business.ftc.gov/documents/in...rtunity-offers
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  • Profile picture of the author Aristocratic
    According to my partner, she received a refund, but she had to go through her credit card to do so because she had already made a dispute in Paypal in the beginning to get her login info. Buyers beware of doing this because if you close your dispute, you cannot reopen it or open another for the same ticket in Paypal.

    Supposedly they were getting more support people to help get the ball rolling, but I cannot comment on the legitimacy of that. Best of luck to anyone that takes such a high risk of doing business with this guy given the negative reviews!
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      • Profile picture of the author Money on the Side
        Originally Posted by jbbrotherskeep View Post

        Hello,

        Everyone here, I am the product creator of Profit Network Pro Jerry B. I made this profile because this thread was bought to my attention. I don't use the Warrior Forum for anything so I couldn't catch it sooner. I would first like to apologize for any problems that you may have run into while you we're a member of Profit Network Pro.

        I'm going to be 100% honest with you all. At first when this offer first released to the public we had around 5 successful students trying this out just make sure this was something we could do and we were just looking to add 25 more students to create a circle of amazing testimonies but we took on more than 25 and more than our staff could handle but we still made duo. From then on I have hired more staff and we're getting back on the right track. What I do not appreciate is everyone saying this is a scam when I've made sure everyone received a website and was just waiting in line for traffic.

        If anyone here can say you did not receive anything from us please email me and I make sure your handled ASAP. But in the beginning I bit off more than I could chew but I made up for it now, as everyone should be complete and in line for traffic.

        Also to my defense, I would like someone to post a link to any offer that is doing what we're doing for the price. Yes, its past the time frame that was given but if it was that easy you guys wouldn't be here and would be doing it yourselves. I'm thankful for all of my members but you do have to understand the task at hand. Yes I'm success at doing it that is why I have the mailing list that I have. But in no way am I a scammer or a fraud. Very hurtful terms in my eyes for a guy that actually works hard.

        Status update: everyone by now should have a working website up and running waiting for a mail out. It would be nice to mail all of you guys offers at once but it's just not that easy. There is a line and it will be handled by purchase date. If you have a problem with me or my staff you can email me at profitnetworkpro [at] gmail [dot] com and make subject line "Attn: Jerry B WF" and I will personally answer any question you may have.

        So once again anyone bashing me come speak to me, we can work it out. I'm a nice guy and not a scammer You guys have a great day!!
        B.S. you are a royal scammer! Your websites are all taken down, your whois info is hidden, your names are fake, your support phone numbers are bogus...and you don't reply to emails.

        I received my refund from PayPal--not from the scammer. To get yours, you should mention the number of complaints, the bogus support phone numbers, etc.

        Also, you should file complaints with the ic3.gov and the FTC. The ONLY reason this clown has hired help is to help dig him out of the scam pit he has dug.
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          • Profile picture of the author niall17
            hey jerry, people like you sicken me. your a conman and a scam artist.

            I joined the first week of January and have nothing to show for it.

            I've dedicated a new website to you www.profitnetworkproscam.com I hope you like it.

            i'm going to make it my mission to make sure you never scam anyone again.

            im also filing complaints with the ic3.gov and the FTC.

            your a nasty scammer jerry, do the decent thing and give people back their money.
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      • Profile picture of the author dktech
        Hey Jerry B. Keith Henderson here, surely my name will ring a bell. I have made the videos about PNP, that currently rank at the top of YouTube. Truth is no one cares about you being a nice guy, hell I'm a nice guy. You said no one was doing what PNP is doing for the price. Again no one cares about that because if you do not delivery then the price makes no difference. We give someone $397, someone we don't know, someone who's phone numbers don't work, someone who stops answering email.
        I have a deal for YOU. You complete my fasttrafficcash.com web site, create the product, which should be done first (I ask for a copy of "my product", emails never were answered). Set up JVZoo, Autoresponder, start sending my two months of traffic. If I make $397 I will pay you $397 and buy more traffic. My bank has refunded my money on provisional terms. Once all this happens I will create a new video praising PNP and remove my other scam related videos.
        If you don't follow through this is just more fuel for my case to the bank.

        Your move ?
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          • Profile picture of the author dktech
            Good Morning (see I'm a nice guy too)

            Let me set the record straight. It was NOT 100% complete, JVZoo and autoresponder not complete. And here's the big thing, where was the product ? I ask over and over for a review copy of the product I was to sell, NOT once did I get a reply and I have the email thread to prove it.

            Let me quote you "I have no problem setting everything back up for you, but how do I know you won't change your mind again." I gave a unproven, unknown marketer $397 (as far as I can tell) and there was no product. I'm to just assume your a straight shooting marketer ? And your somehow associated with elocaloop, vividvision and not one working phone number to be found, you hide all your domains contact info, emails get replies sometimes. So I took all the risk, because we all know there are thousands of Internet scammers, maybe you are real. But your business model does not instill trust.

            The videos are more for my documentation, I put everything on YT.

            How about you take the risk this time and restore some market trust. Really finish the fasttrafficcash.com product (and let me review it) complete the setup and start sending traffic. If I make $397, you would need to trust me that I would happily pay you $397.
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            • Profile picture of the author niall17
              jerry ( if that's your real name )

              what's the use in sending you my email address, you haven't answered any of my previous email so why would you bother starting now.

              if you have anything to say to me say it out in an open forum.

              I realise that i'm not getting my money back so instead im going to try and stop you hurting decent people who work hard to earn their money.

              <<<<<JOIN THE STOP JERRY CAMPAIGNE >>>>>>>

              If any of you guy's want to help I'm drafting letters of complaint to jvzoo,paypal and anywhere else this guy is praying on decent people.

              PM me any info you have and we will do this together as a group.

              we might have been conned but maybe we can save few others.
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                • Profile picture of the author Neil Day
                  So how long before I start seeing any traffic to my site. It has been over 2 weeks now. I sincerely hope you are not holding out for the 45 day deadline for a Paypal dispute to be raised...

                  Plus, what has happened to my member site? It is no longer available to download the training materials that you are supposedly uploading for us.

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                  • Profile picture of the author dktech
                    Hey Neil Day. All the luck to you on Profit Network Pro. I would like to see your site that PNP did for you, could you supply a link to your money site ? Also did you every get a copy of the product PNP created for you to sell ? Thanks
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                    • Profile picture of the author Neil Day
                      PM sent dktech
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                      • Profile picture of the author Neil Day
                        Anyone managed to get a refund from this robbing scammer?
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                        • Profile picture of the author dktech
                          Hey Neil
                          I currently received a provisional refund from my bank. Which means they could put back the refund if they do not support my claim of fraud. PNP will not issue a refund.
                          I suggest you file a dispute claim with your bank.
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              • Profile picture of the author dktech
                Come on JB the only thing in my "members" area is a sales page. http://profitnetworkpro.com/members
                This is the reason folks are calling this is a scam. You tell someone to go to the members area and there is no function(s) in the members are, its sales copy.
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      • Profile picture of the author BigChris
        Jerry,

        I have emailed you and your support over 20 times, no replies!!! I joined on Feb.11th
        The last correspondence I received was on April 11th saying my my traffic will start on April 14th. NOTHING HAPPENED!!

        I keep emailing and asking what happened and you wont even give me the courtesy of responding.

        This is probably the reason why people keep saying this is a scam, because you keep ignoring their emails and your support staff is not responding either.

        You give people no assurance at all that you are legit. What do you expect?

        BTW.... Where is my traffic???

        Chris
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        • Profile picture of the author dktech
          Hey BigChris

          Last I heard PNP was shutdown. I did get a full refund, but it came from my bank dispute process not PayPal or PNP.

          My question to you, did you ever get a copy of the product ?

          That was really my big pet peeve, I would ask for a copy of this "traffic product" I was to sell but emails never received a reply.

          Good Luck !
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          • Profile picture of the author BigChris
            Originally Posted by dktech View Post

            Hey BigChris

            Last I heard PNP was shutdown. I did get a full refund, but it came from my bank dispute process not PayPal or PNP.

            My question to you, did you ever get a copy of the product ?

            That was really my big pet peeve, I would ask for a copy of this "traffic product" I was to sell but emails never received a reply.

            Good Luck !
            Hi DKTech,

            I did get the landing page setup which judging by the site, its only about 15% of the cost of the campaign cost of $397. It also seems to me like it may have belonged to someone else or used in someone else's marketing campaign. Its not a lead capture page, just a straight sales/ video page, then a downgrade page if they try to close the page out, which is cool.

            The problem i have is why take someones money and make this big promise to them and instead of you being man enough to respond and apologize, Jerry just ignores people and refuses to give people at least some kind of alternative to this incomplete system that we already paid money for.

            He is a coward in my opinion!

            Its bad business. He will truly reap what he has sown, you don't steal peoples money like that and run...be professional and responsible!

            Chris
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            • Profile picture of the author BigChris
              Originally Posted by BigChris View Post

              Hi DKTech,

              I did get the landing page setup which judging by the site, its only about 15% of the cost of the campaign cost of $397. It also seems to me like it may have belonged to someone else or used in someone else's marketing campaign. Its not a lead capture page, just a straight sales/ video page, then a downgrade page if they try to close the page out, which is cool.

              The problem i have is why take someones money and make this big promise to them and instead of you being man enough to respond and apologize, Jerry just ignores people and refuses to give people at least some kind of alternative to this incomplete system that we already paid money for.

              He is a coward in my opinion!

              Its bad business. He will truly reap what he has sown, you don't steal peoples money like that and run...be professional and responsible!

              Chris
              I was also told that because I used Paypal/ bank draft via my checking account, I can not dispute and get a refund. BOA told me I should have used a credit card via Paypals platform instead of ACH...so Im screwed on the refund part.

              Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author niall17
    hi guys, profit network pro is a huge SCAM, DO NOT BUY in to it.
    Iv'e been waiting over 8 weeks and nothing. Like so many of the other guys here I stopped my paypal dispute because they promised they would finish everything and get me up and running. they didn't.

    Now they will not answer any of my emails and I can't get my money back.

    >>>>>PROFIT NETWORK PRO IS A SCAM, DO NOT BUY>>>>>>
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  • Profile picture of the author tradermike
    Just to followup,
    I gave them the benefit of doubt over and over...perhaps I was a little high on hopium. I did open a Paypal dispute, and I did wait till the end of the 20d dispute window until I finally escalated it to Paypal.

    I am happy to report that I did win my Paypal dispute, and that I did receive a full refund.

    However, I would have been much happier if I would have received the desired service in the first place. I am bummed that everything unfolded the way it did. Not mad, just disappointed.

    Regards,
    --tradermike
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