Should I Buy Frank Kern's MassControl 2.0 Or Not?

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Hey Guy's,

I am seriously considering buying Frank Kern's MassControl 2.0 to help improve my online business.

But i'm a little scared at handing over nearly $2K of my hard earned cash to pay for it.

Has anybody here already got it and does it teach you what Frank Kern says it does?

Your honest opinion please?

Thanks,
Ben
#buy #frank kern #masscontrol
  • If you're new to IM, you havent created your own products and you are not yet making decent money off the net, then my opinion is that MC 2.0 is not for you. I feel it's better used by "advanced users". Same thing goes for Product Launch Formula 2.0
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    • Originally Posted by senve View Post

      he fills up with fluff 50 minutes videos, and no real meat,
      nothing that you can apply right away...
      I agree with this. Kern talks and talks and he's fun to watch because of his persona (profanities and humor included)... but I never get anything valuable from his videos. Pretty much like Eban Pagan: tons of metaphysical talk but little juice. That's why I like Filsaine and Richard Brunson better: not as charismatic but certainly more content-focused.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kenneth L
        Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

        I agree with this. Kern talks and talks and he's fun to watch because of his persona (profanities and humor included)... but I never get anything valuable from his videos. Pretty much like Eban Pagan: tons of metaphysical talk but little juice. That's why I like Filsaine and Richard Brunson better: not as charismatic but certainly more content-focused.
        You've summed up the way I feel too, pretty damn accurately.

        However, there is one caveat:

        Eben and Frank do a LOT of things right and make a LOT of money, so studying what they DO much more than what they SAY is very worthwhile!

        Kenneth
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      • Profile picture of the author Brad Callen
        Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

        I agree with this. Kern talks and talks and he's fun to watch because of his persona (profanities and humor included)... but I never get anything valuable from his videos. Pretty much like Eban Pagan: tons of metaphysical talk but little juice. That's why I like Filsaine and Richard Brunson better: not as charismatic but certainly more content-focused.
        I also like Richard and Filsaine. Karn's pretty cool too :-)

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        • Profile picture of the author malcasid
          Originally Posted by Brad Callen View Post

          I also like Richard and Filsaine. Karn's pretty cool too :-)

          Brad
          LOL. Richard Brunson - Russell Brunson, Mike Filsaine - Mike Filsaime. I see what you did there
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        • Profile picture of the author Johnson Tay
          Generally, all biz problems boil down to either a problem with traffic, conversion or both.

          Mass Control helps solve your conversion problem.

          But, it can be done by simply split-testing your landing pages and testing different variations of your sales copy to see which converts the best.

          No need to splash out 2 grand or so for that.

          And from my observation, what will take you to the million dollar mark and beyond is simply expanding your traffic volume through traffic acquisition; be it through PPC or media buying. (I haven't seen too many people succeed big time with SEO) But before that can happen, you obviously want to ensure your conversion elements are in place and tested to convert like crazy. No need for Mass Control or whatever Product Launching nonsense!

          My 2 cents,

          J
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          • Originally Posted by Johnson Tay View Post

            Generally, all biz problems boil down to either a problem with traffic, conversion or both.

            Mass Control helps solve your conversion problem.

            But, it can be done by simply split-testing your landing pages and testing different variations of your sales copy to see which converts the best.

            No need to splash out 2 grand or so for that.

            And from my observation, what will take you to the million dollar mark and beyond is simply expanding your traffic volume through traffic acquisition; be it through PPC or media buying. (I haven't seen too many people succeed big time with SEO) But before that can happen, you obviously want to ensure your conversion elements are in place and tested to convert like crazy. No need for Mass Control or whatever Product Launching nonsense!
            I so agree with this. Before jumping into this high-end courses (Mass Control, Product Launch Formula, Eban Pagan's Guru Mastermind stuff, etc) you need to make sure that you have the basics in place or else you will probably not benefit from these "advanced" strategies.
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    • Profile picture of the author BrandonLee
      I don't want to get into any sort of war, but some people seem to be very negative on just about everything and of the opinion that it can't be done and that good information is not worth paying for, and good service is not worth buying. I cant possibly imagine someone having any success with an attitude like this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Desmond Ong
    Frank Kern's Mass Control delivers -- if you follow through his course.

    It's one of the best courses that I've ever purchased.

    Highly recommended if you want to sell products online for money.
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  • Profile picture of the author brooks28
    Thanks guys,

    I've been internet marketing for 2 years and full time for the last month, i'm making enough money with my own products and affiliate marketing to be able to give up my day job so I do consider myself a (semi) advanced marketer.

    Has anybody actually seen an increase in profits from implementing what they have learnt from masscontrol 2.0?
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
    I think there was a thread floating around here to a link where a guy basically broke down everything in the package module by module. If you search you may find it...


    It is basically lots of sales psychology stuff/mind control/subliminal suggestion stuff and a little bit on how to formulate the launch of a product.

    If you already have your product and list, then it can be considered decent entertainment for the money if you are into that sort of thing.

    If you are still at ground zero, then it may inspire and hype you up to go out and get a product and a list.....
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    • Profile picture of the author KrisMainieri
      I would save my 2k for now.
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      • Profile picture of the author glengarry4
        If you have our own product and a decent sized prospect/email list then the course will definetly make you money. Say what you want about this free online videos, but MC 2.0 is really PACKED with content.

        There's a another MC 2.0 thread on here where someone gives a pretty in depth review of the course.

        G
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  • Profile picture of the author Justin Humphries
    Mass Control 2.0 is a great product! If you have your own product to sell and have a pretty good list.

    Yeah, Frank is a little different, but he KNOWS what he's talking about. He made nearly $5 million in 2 days when he launched Mass Control 2.0...

    He's basically teaching you how you could do the same thing (no one is promising $5 mill. but in time, if you follow what he teaches, you could possibly make it happen for you).

    Frankly (pun intended) I love the product and I think Frank Kern delivers great content (once you get passed his free videos and become a customer...he treats his customers well).

    Hope that helps
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  • Profile picture of the author BrandonLee
    Mass Control is great. We used Mass Control on the media, and my client is going to be on ABC News 20/20 on the 19th because of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author ilyasm
    I think Mass control is a great value for money product with step by step plan to make huge money in information marketing, especially it will help you create a responsive list with a powerful sales funnel that will help you sell more of your product.
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  • Profile picture of the author brooks28
    Thankyou guys for all your valuable advice.

    I have now decided not to buy masscontrol and instead invest my $2K in others areas of my business.

    Once again thanks,

    Ben
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    • Profile picture of the author claire101
      Originally Posted by Onslaught View Post

      I think you made a good choice.

      Out of you guys that bought Mass Control, what has it done for you $ wise? I know about the kid and his $24k or whatever. Do any of you have websites where you are using Mass Control effectively?

      I would like to see some of it in action

      thanks
      I would also like to hear some 'real' positive testimonials about MC 2.0. I have following Frank's blog for a while now but hard to justify spending that sort of money. Also has anyone had success with his bonus '4day cash machine'??
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      • Profile picture of the author BrandonLee
        Here is a real testimonial. Watch ABC News 20/20 on Friday the 19th. They will be doing a segment on Wall Street's New Whiz Bang Boom kids etc. We used MC on the producers, and my client is the feature of the presentation.



        Originally Posted by claire101 View Post

        I would also like to hear some 'real' positive testimonials about MC 2.0. I have following Frank's blog for a while now but hard to justify spending that sort of money. Also has anyone had success with his bonus '4day cash machine'??
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        • Profile picture of the author malcasid
          Originally Posted by BrandonLee View Post

          Here is a real testimonial. Watch ABC News 20/20 on Friday the 19th. They will be doing a segment on Wall Street's New Whiz Bang Boom kids etc. We used MC on the producers, and my client is the feature of the presentation.
          Woah! I'm gonna look out for that. That is totally awesome.
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    To add to this post, has anybody tried Mike Dillards product? He has a similarly titled program that is being offered now and I am contemplating purchasing it.

    The price now is $300 but apparantly the price will jump to $1000 on Wednesday. Can anybody provide feedback on what they think of the product?
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  • Profile picture of the author James Foster
    Mass Control also gives you the '4 Day Money Machine' which is intended to make you recoup the cost of the course if you follow it.
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    Its not available anymore is it?
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  • Profile picture of the author lakshaybehl
    MC2.0 is highly recommended...

    -a satisfied buyer.
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    • Profile picture of the author brooks28
      Originally Posted by AbsolutionRT View Post

      Mas control delivers insane amounts of money very quickly. You can be a semi-newb and make 10k a month quickly.
      Can you provide any proof for your claim?
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    • Profile picture of the author submit_articles
      I had to LOL. I've never seen his course, but I do think he knows what he's talking about. If I have the time, I'll probably invest, but I don't.

      Just look at the way he launches his products...very savvy, and very smooth. I like to guess that a lot of his content talks about marketing...and sometimes marketing is not just about numbers. They may come across as fluff to some people. Totally understand.

      Still think that's a lot to learn from him. If you don't want to spend money, then just watch what he does.

      Originally Posted by Onslaught View Post

      lol- yeah sure
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  • Profile picture of the author malcasid
    Mass Control does not deliver insane amounts of money. That's up to YOU. But, it absolutely has the potential to bring you to that level.
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  • Profile picture of the author Craig Beckta
    I bought Mass Control and love it.

    In fact, I'm using it on my up-coming launch
    for Secret Cash Blueprint.

    The seminar was awesome as well.

    I met a ton of people...

    Jeff Walker, Yanik Silver, Trey Smith, Andy Jenkins...

    If you are thinking of launching a product in the near
    future I highly recommend it.

    It's great even if you don't get my bonus with it.

    Craig Beckta
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    • Profile picture of the author brooks28
      Originally Posted by Craig Beckta View Post

      I bought Mass Control and love it.

      In fact, I'm using it on my up-coming launch
      for Secret Cash Blueprint.

      The seminar was awesome as well.

      I met a ton of people...

      Jeff Walker, Yanik Silver, Trey Smith, Andy Jenkins...

      If you are thinking of launching a product in the near
      future I highly recommend it.

      It's great even if you don't get my bonus with it.

      Craig Beckta
      Hey Craig,

      Thats an awesome bonus! In fact I am thinking about launching my own product so MassControl 2.0 combined with your bonus is definately something to consider.

      Thanks,
      Ben
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      • Profile picture of the author Craig Beckta
        You know what...

        On every launch you learn something new.

        You know what they say about experience.

        What I liked the most about Mass Control 2.0
        and this may sound weird.

        You get a huge box of stuff.

        I was just borrowing from some of the email swipe
        files this morning. It comes with swipe files from
        the Stomper launch and a bunch of others...

        It's great if your planning a launch.

        Frank has the whole thing down to a science.

        It also comes with the Four Day Cash Blueprint
        which works like a charm.

        I actually used it to make $1800.00 in four days.

        If you have any questions about it, let me know.

        Craig Beckta
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    • Profile picture of the author Craig Beckta
      If you are a complete newbie, than it may not be as useful.

      Although, there is a ton of great info that can help you. It all
      depends where you are...

      A lot of it comes down to having a positive frame of mind
      and then working towards some concrete goals.

      Unfortunately you can't just push a button and watch money
      roll in.

      I made my money back and more, so it's a winner in my books.

      Craig
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    • Profile picture of the author BrandonLee
      True enough, but we have used it to get on Fox News, CNBC, Bloomberg, the BBC and a ton of radio programs. Each time we have made a ton of money, so I figure we got that covered.


      Originally Posted by senve View Post

      ok, so you can appear on TV. but that doesnt translate into real cash. and you have to have charisma and a good appearanceand a good image, otherways you will do more damage to your business
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  • Profile picture of the author ykaw97
    This thread is interesting. I think people who buy Mass Control see what they want to see.

    My honest belief is it is not worth the $2K and while I didn't send mine back for a refund I probably should have. There is a plan there - but it's not masterful, it's not even new. Sorry Frank...

    With the re-launch I got the course out and started going through it again. The best advice I can give is if you buy, buy through someone's link who has a lot of bonuses.
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    • Profile picture of the author smedsribaka
      Originally Posted by ykaw97 View Post

      This thread is interesting. I think people who buy Mass Control see what they want to see.

      My honest belief is it is not worth the $2K and while I didn't send mine back for a refund I probably should have. There is a plan there - but it's not masterful, it's not even new. Sorry Frank...

      With the re-launch I got the course out and started going through it again. The best advice I can give is if you buy, buy through someone's link who has a lot of bonuses.
      I actually didn't buy it because I must have had 20 marketers send me their bonus programs and couldn't decide which one to get it through! Maybe I should reduce the number of marketers I am following!
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    • Profile picture of the author BrandonLee
      In my own experience most things that are "new" in the marketing world do not work very well...which is why they havent been tried yet. Obviously new technology comes around from time to time that allows for a few things to be done - but for the most part the effective stuff has been around a long time. Where you get results is by finding out what someone who is more succesful then you is doing, and repeating that proccess with your own little spin on it as best you can.
      Brandon



      Originally Posted by ykaw97 View Post

      This thread is interesting. I think people who buy Mass Control see what they want to see.

      My honest belief is it is not worth the $2K and while I didn't send mine back for a refund I probably should have. There is a plan there - but it's not masterful, it's not even new. Sorry Frank...

      With the re-launch I got the course out and started going through it again. The best advice I can give is if you buy, buy through someone's link who has a lot of bonuses.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashley Ann
    I love Franks material, some is over the top but he does offer real value. Though I wouldn't drop 2k for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author josh1979
    Just to let you know guys, someone's selling Mass Control on eBay here:

    ttp://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&i tem=130311756968

    I'd buy it, but I can't even afford it at this discounted price :'(
    I reckon it should go to someone that deserves it!
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  • Profile picture of the author RecurringRevenue
    I'm sure there's a thread somewhere that gives some PROOF that people are making money with Frank's stuff. The audio that comes with th epackage are filled with them.

    LISTEN: The way he starts each audio with "success stories" is a lesson worth the course price.

    But on to something real and honest.

    1. MC has helped me build stronger relationships with my list.

    2. Which equals more money.

    Now then...

    I took a small list. Ran a typical "sale." Sold $1,292

    Took the same list and same product a month later.

    Ran the 4 Day Cash Machine.

    $7,219
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  • Profile picture of the author marmo
    I always google stuff like that with the word scam after the product name or complaint , rip off ect to see what others are saying that is negative about a product.
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    • Profile picture of the author malcasid
      Originally Posted by marmo View Post

      I always google stuff like that with the word scam after the product name or complaint , rip off ect to see what others are saying that is negative about a product.
      Mass Control is NOT a scam. This is not one of those products. And you might actually find sites with Mass Control Scam that are actually selling the product as affiliates. This is a common tactic amongst affiliates.
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      • Profile picture of the author TheFlash
        There is one thing for which Frank kern is famous:

        for defrauding a lot of people and put under investigation by FTC and
        other state comissions.

        You can find a lot of information about his defrauding schemes and scams he ran on a lot of people, making close to 1m usd through Fraud, on google

        search

        Frank kern FTC

        for example
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        • Profile picture of the author TelegramSam
          Originally Posted by TheFlash View Post

          There is one thing for which Frank kern is famous:

          for defrauding a lot of people and put under investigation by FTC and
          other state comissions.

          You can find a lot of information about his defrauding schemes and scams he ran on a lot of people, making close to 1m usd through Fraud, on google

          search

          Frank kern FTC

          for example

          Yawn!

          I'm no big Frank Kern worshipper, but this is old hat and very well known in the Internet Marketing field.

          You obviously haven't been around for long.

          Know all the facts, before you start putting someone down personally. By all means express an opinion on his products if you have bought and used them, but pull that carrot out of your ass and keep your prejudice to yourself otherwise.
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        • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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          Originally Posted by TheFlash View Post

          There is one thing for which Frank kern is famous:

          for defrauding a lot of people and put under investigation by FTC and
          other state comissions.

          You can find a lot of information about his defrauding schemes and scams he ran on a lot of people, making close to 1m usd through Fraud, on google

          search

          Frank kern FTC

          for example
          Please present us with one example of Kern getting in trouble for defrauding people.
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        • Profile picture of the author BrandonLee
          Frank has always been pretty out there and open about his trouble with the Feds. If it was something he kept in the background and tried to hide, maybe you'd be onto something, but it's something Frank himself talks about all the time. He actually uses the experience he has had with the Feds to help his customers avoid the same type of problem he had (which is not as hard as some of you seem to think it is to end up having, coz if you start to have success, your going to have someone looking very closely at you. If you peeve the wrong person off, nearly all of us have a technicality we could be nailed on).




          Originally Posted by TheFlash View Post

          There is one thing for which Frank kern is famous:

          for defrauding a lot of people and put under investigation by FTC and
          other state comissions.

          You can find a lot of information about his defrauding schemes and scams he ran on a lot of people, making close to 1m usd through Fraud, on google

          search

          Frank kern FTC

          for example
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Gould
    I just bought the course yesterday so I can't give you any results, but the unannounced stuff you get instant access to is pretty awesome.

    Listening to the John Reese thing right now...

    Originally Posted by nowimhere View Post

    So, here is my cheap, FREE alternative.
    (hope you thank me for this, seriously)
    Google Bittorrent or Utorrent,
    download the platform,
    then go here and download the torrent.

    Then you can have Mass Control 2.0 for free

    Its literally what I am doing right now!
    Yeah, that's against the law numb nuts. Reported.
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    • Profile picture of the author malcasid
      Originally Posted by Josh Gould View Post

      I just bought the course yesterday so I can't give you any results, but the unannounced stuff you get instant access to is pretty awesome.

      Listening to the John Reese thing right now...


      Yeah, that's against the law numb nuts. Reported.
      Hey fellow Ontarian,

      I hope you don't have to pay any nasty duties, or taxes.

      I remember reading how a dude from the UK ended up paying $200+ in duties/taxes.

      Oh well, its worth it anyway. It just sucks when you have to pay these extra fees.
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      • Profile picture of the author Josh Gould
        Originally Posted by malcasid View Post

        Hey fellow Ontarian,

        I hope you don't have to pay any nasty duties, or taxes.

        I remember reading how a dude from the UK ended up paying $200+ in duties/taxes.

        Oh well, its worth it anyway. It just sucks when you have to pay these extra fees.
        Oh yeah I'm fully expecting some fees. Since it's shipping through USPS there's at least a chance I won't get nailed, but it seems like I do every time I get something shipped from California.

        No big deal, like you say I think it'll be well worth it!
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      • Profile picture of the author Yuma
        Originally Posted by malcasid View Post

        Hey fellow Ontarian,

        I hope you don't have to pay any nasty duties, or taxes.

        I remember reading how a dude from the UK ended up paying $200+ in duties/taxes.

        Oh well, its worth it anyway. It just sucks when you have to pay these extra fees.
        Some advice for UK Warriors thinking of buying this:

        You don't pay any duties for the UK as this is purely educational, which is exempt. You'll find info on the HMRC website.
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  • Profile picture of the author nlbhoy
    Hey if your interested in mass control 2.0 pm me and I will tell you where you can get this cource for a fraction af that price. I bought this when it first came out and I am interested in selling it cheap.

    I can't pm you as I am new here
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  • Profile picture of the author brooks28
    Wow! This thread really took off

    I have a couple of quick questions...

    Has anybody bought MC since it was re-released on the 12th June?

    Also What was the best bonus that was offered?

    Thanks,
    Ben
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    • Profile picture of the author Josh Gould
      Originally Posted by brooks28 View Post

      Wow! This thread really took off

      I have a couple of quick questions...

      Has anybody bought MC since it was re-released on the 12th June?

      Also What was the best bonus that was offered?

      Thanks,
      Ben
      I bought it on the 12th.

      The best bonus depends on whatcha' want, really. John Reese is giving out a gigantic package with Traffic Secrets 2.0 and some other fancy stuff, some people are offering electronics, etc. I personally bought it through Jason Moffatt's link.

      No offense to anyone offering stuff like I mentioned above because it's definitely cool... but for me personally, the last thing I need is some physical stuff that either gets dusty or distracts me from makin' money with my purchase: Mass Control.

      Jason's offer was to personally help you with your Mass Control campaign, plus a bunch of his products.

      Personal help from someone who has used Mass Control and gotten good results gives me even more confidence that I'll make back my investment (plus more). This completely eliminates any possibility of confusion, which means there'll be no confusion when I go off and do it solo in the future.

      ... then if I decide I want Traffic Secrets or a Wii or whatever, I'll have made back my investment and have enough to go out and buy them.

      Plus during his live streaming thing he gave some useful tips and advice.

      Not trying to pitch his bonus or anything, just explaining the logic I followed when I decided. Go with what suits you best!

      Best of luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author BrandonLee
    Hey Josh, you made a good buy taking it from Jason. I totally agree with you that having a helping hand, not extra products, is the best bonus out there.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheFlash
    Frank Kern is using all Dan Kennedy materials, by the way. If you buy $9 Dan kennedy books you get more usable information than the $2000 course of Mass Control 2.0
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    • Profile picture of the author Josh Gould
      Originally Posted by Onslaught View Post

      you guys and your $9 books :rolleyes:....
      Those books may be useful but like you're getting at, it doesn't really compare to what Mass Control is.

      Again, I've haven't seen the product yet but this is step by step stuff... Frank made that clear in the sales video page pitch demonstration thing. Week one you do this, week two you do this, week three you do this, week four you do this.

      Books are filled with useful information but typically it's not step by step stuff where you get a result at the end of 30 days.

      You can take that information from those books and create your own formula, and if you're into that, awesome! Who knows, maybe I'll buy from you one day. Hell, I may even do that one day!

      But call me crazy, I'd prefer to "leech off of" someone else's success formula rather than start from scratch!

      Hopefully I don't sound like I'm trying to sell Mass Control 2.0, I'm not. Frank certainly doesn't need my help... from his latest e-mail:

      Mass Control Still Created a MILLION DOLLAR WEEKEND.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nisip
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    Mass control is not worth it.

    You have to work hard mor ethan one month to make a launch. I am sure 99.5% of people who throwed 2 000 usdollars for Mass Control, didnt do any launch.

    You can purchase few WSOs here on this forum, that have more actionable content than Mass Control 2.0.

    Just my 20 cents
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    • Profile picture of the author BrandonLee
      What does the fact that most people will be TOO LAZY to actually commit to doing a launch have to do with the actual value of MC if your not lazy and you actually do one?

      Originally Posted by Nisip View Post

      Mass control is not worth it.

      You have to work hard mor ethan one month to make a launch. I am sure 99.5% of people who throwed 2 000 usdollars for Mass Control, didnt do any launch.

      You can purchase few WSOs here on this forum, that have more actionable content than Mass Control 2.0.

      Just my 20 cents
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  • Profile picture of the author Nisip
    Banned
    did you guys at least search on google "frank kern ftc"
    and learnt about frank kern own scams and frauds?
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  • Profile picture of the author nour_lord
    Please present us with one example of Kern getting in trouble for defrauding people.... me too i want ask that
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