Internet LIfestyle Network's Speed Wealth System.

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Anyone know what this is about? Seems to be some kind of network marketing group.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lex Gabriel
    Not exactly a network marketing group. We could say it's a movement that offers a business opportunity and affiliate marketing. You can get pasive monhly payments as well as big one time commissions on the high ticket items they offer.

    I'm part of it. The atmosphere is great and so is the training provided. I don't want to sound to hypey or like I am promoting it here so feel free to pm me to talk about it more in depth.

    Alex Barboza
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  • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
    I make a bunch of money with the speed wealth system, works like most things you send traffic to the system and the system does the selling.

    I like the training, they have stuff for beginners, and higher level people. If you like high converting offers that all you have to do is send traffic to, to make money then Speed Wealth is a good program.
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  • Profile picture of the author jambaman2
    Hmmm, "all you have to do is send traffic" to "highly converting offers"???

    WHAT IM biz is about ANYTHING other than that?

    Can anyone say more Egg-ZACKLY what someone would be doing to earn this "$20 a month over and over"?

    Please don't say "watch the training videos"!

    Just SAY WHAT IT IS you will be doing, and how much time daily - and all costs involved.

    NOTHING I have heard about ILN/Speed Wealth System has even TOUCHED on this basic and essential question!

    Thanx 2 whomever can answer these simple questions: WHAT do you do, HOW LONG does it take DAILY and HOW MUCH does it cost?
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    • Profile picture of the author RobertoM
      I'd also love to know some answer to jambaman2 question above.
      In the sales vids it seems you don't risk your money due to the 30 days refund+ policy, but my thing is to avoid wasting TIME.
      Anybody?
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      • Profile picture of the author RobertoM
        Hey Alex Barboza,
        I'm sending you a PM.
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      • Profile picture of the author jambaman2
        Originally Posted by KimbaLion View Post

        What you do is promote an opportunity whichever way works best for you. Lots of social media, mail is fine, blogs, whatever YOU can do. How long does it take a day....however long it takes you to earn as much as you want. What does it cost? $37/month Apprentice level; $95 Professional. Very transparent.
        Very unsubstantial...

        That exact same non-descript answer would apply to virtually every (scammy) program I've run into.
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        • Profile picture of the author SteveSki
          I just joined the Speed Wealth ILN program today and have gotten 3 sign ups so far. But the training I've seen so far in just the introductory video is pretty weak. Typical Old School MLM training of approaching everyone you know and spaming everyone else.

          But those who know how to do IM can clean up with it. Unfortunately like all Network Marketing programs it attracts a lot of people who don't know how to do anything other than copy, paste and spam.

          If anyone would like to learn how to do MLM the right way PM me and I'll share the best Generic MLM training I've come across with you for free. ( use it with any MLM Program)

          Those who don't have these skills will fail with ILN. Those who practice these skills can succeed with just about any good MLM/Network Marketing Company.

          Cheers,
          SteveSki
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          • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
            Originally Posted by SteveSki View Post


            Typical Old School MLM training of approaching everyone you know and spaming everyone else.

            But those who know how to do IM can clean up with it. Unfortunately like all Network Marketing programs it attracts a lot of people who don't know how to do anything other than copy, paste and spam.

            If anyone would like to learn how to do MLM the right way PM me and I'll share the best Generic MLM training I've come across with you for free. ( use it with any MLM Program)

            Those who don't have these skills will fail with ILN. Those who practice these skills can succeed with just about any good MLM/Network Marketing Company.
            That's how it looked to me, I signed up to an ILN promoter's promo that looked interesting. Had a really good looking squeeze page with some nice carrots to munch on, But when I got to the offer bells rang and the crossing gate came down. I decided to take a step back and see if I could build a swipe file and got over 60 messages in June alone.

            I'd be most interested in seeing the MLM training you have.
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            ...Even if you're on the right track, you'll get run over if you just set there.
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      • Profile picture of the author GinaMSI
        And they've sent out the shills already.....because "Clifton" can't answer the question of what product they have, because they don't have one!
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        • Profile picture of the author nmchant
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          • Profile picture of the author GinaMSI
            One would think, but it's hilarious how she quoted a direct question from previous poster and didn't answer any of it.

            Sorry if I'm a little harsh, but these pyramid schemes ruin people's lives.
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              • Profile picture of the author GinaMSI
                I appreciate your reply, but you still haven't answered NM's question about the article I posted, nor any of the previous posters' questions. I never had a question. I know what you are.

                You're addressing the wrong person.

                Cheers!
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                • Profile picture of the author GinaMSI
                  I know all about the Scientologists. I live in Hollywood, very near the Celebrity Center, or whatever it's called. These MLMs remind me very much of them.
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                  • Profile picture of the author nmchant
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                    • Profile picture of the author SteveSki
                      Originally Posted by nmchant View Post

                      I was in Hell's Kitchen NY Sea Org for a month before I escaped. Of course i was a kid then and quite gullible (obviously!).

                      I'm not against mlm's per se as I believe there are some good ones and Ray Higdon's my guy!! Love him! Though i realize most people don't succeed with them. Kinda like there's a lot of guitar player's out there but the Jimi Hendrix level players are in a serious minority, doesn't mean everyone else should stop.. they just need to up their game.
                      Ray Higdon would succeed at working any MLM company because he possess skills that bottom feeders do not and are not willing to learn. That’s what makes them bottom feeders.

                      Now Ray was one of the top producers in The Numis Network. After watching others succeed in Numis I finally joined because I really liked the product. Who wouldn't mind having a garage full of gold and silver coins. If you've been in Network Marketing in the past wouldn't you rather have a gold or silver coin in your portfolio now in place of all those lotions, potions and pills?

                      However… one month after I finally joined Numis merged with World Ventures and everyone had to switch from selling coins to selling travel.

                      BTW… One of the ILN products is also a discount travel program… their other products are mostly educational along the line of Empower Network. But the owners do not claim to have ever been drug addicted and homeless like the two shyster’s who head up EN. Empower Network gives you a blog with their base membership... ILN also gives you Unlimited blogs with their base membership but unlike a single Empower Network blog... you have much more control over customizing it.

                      Now David Wood (who was already successful in several deals including Numis) took his girlfriend on a luxury camping trip in a mini RV campervan in Hawaii and twisted his vacation into his “This Once Homeless Van Man Now Makes Millions” story.

                      Not much better than a rich politician who points a finger at the rich and tricks people into class warfare while he or she milks the system for everything they can get.

                      You need to realize that the people who scream MLM is a scam do so because they haven’t been able to succeed at it. What’s the difference between being an IM affiliate and a MLM? Well the primary way to earn money as an affiliate is to promote and sell the product… not the opportunity to sell the product yourself… but the opportunity to buy and use the product yourself.

                      What’s wrong with MLM / Network Marketers are most try to sell a money making opportunity and the products are only there to keep it legal. But claiming MLM is a scam and doesn’t work is like claiming Internet Marketing is a scam and doesn’t work.

                      Internet Marketing attracts more bottom feeders than MLM ever did. It’s just that some have learnt the skills and have the discipline and work ethic to make it work for them while 99% of the heard will always remain bottom feeders.

                      I wish that Warrior “Rainee” was still selling her two WSO’s on the Mind Hacks used by EN and others… Every marketer could benefit from her de-Brainwashing report and her God Complex report. Tatics also used by Scientologists for Occult Mind Control. (Occult does not mean devil worship. It simply means hidden or secret knowledge that is kept from the masses/herd/flock of followers / believers)

                      Click this link to see her ebook: http://screencast.com/t/19v7b3YP

                      So here’s the thing about MLM type programs… Take Ray Higdon and a bottom feeder and put them into a good program like ILN. They each will have the same opportunity, the same products, the same training, everything will be the same for each of them but Ray will succeed while those who choose to remain bottom feeders will not evolve.

                      What’s the difference between them? Ray continually learns, grows and acquires the skill set to be successful in any MLM while the bottom feeder’s start at the bottle and stay there either by choice or by following the sales and prospecting tactics that other bottom feeders teach. So be care who who believe. Just because you know, like and trust them doesn't mean they are right. Put them to the test don't subscribe to blind faith.

                      Since there are far more bottom feeders out there teaching spammy snake oil sales tactics than there are real mentors teaching the skills that can make the difference to those who have the desire, self discipline and the work ethic to succeed, a lot of MLMĂ©rs are blinded to the truth because they were sponsored in by a blind friend or relative and since duplication works everytime… they succeed at duplicating what doesn’t work.

                      I’m surprised at how many members of ILN and other MLM’s have PM me over the past two days asking for the generic MLM slide show training presentations I’m sharing with anyone who is interested. Wish, they were working with me instead of going off in a hundred different directions but I’m happy to share some of the best generic MLM training on the planet for free. After all, it’s all about how much value you deliver that will make the difference for you and those who you touch!

                      BTW… buying into any MLM or WSO will not make you any money whatsoever. Selling, Teaching and Creating will. Most of the IM Gurus do not earn their income by working the money making plan, WSO or course they are selling. They make their money by creating and selling WSO and other money making plans to the bottom feeders.

                      Cheers,
                      SteveSki

                      P.S. Clifton made a mistake by trying to play (defense) ball in the Warrior's ballpark. He doesn't stand a chance of successfully defending himself. The SpeedWealth recruiting video was designed to attract the masses and they don't tell you what the products are until you get inside. If it wasn't for the 7 Day Free trail before they charge your credit card I would not have joined. Clifton needs to stay in his own ball park. When you join any MLM you are playing in someone else's ball park and they get to make their own rules. That's the risk you take with any MLM. The company can change the rules on you whenever they want and pull the rug out from under you without any notice... just like Numis did just days after I joined their Network. But what the heck... nothing last forever. So sit on the sidelines and just be a spectator or get into the arena and take your lumps, learn, grow and have fun!
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                        • Profile picture of the author SteveSki
                          Originally Posted by nmchant View Post



                          "Rumors, assumptions, and negativity is WAY more fun to read and share than the truth, which is usually more boring and cumbersome."

                          Apparently he's banking on the idea that we're idiots here and totally dodged the subject with a mind-numbingly moronic non answer ...'eh no one really wants the truth anyway, why bother'.

                          I hate to burst your bubble but he may be right… many people say they want the truth but what they really want is hope. They hope they can buy their way into heaven… They hope the next shiny object will be the magical one that sets them free. They hope that someone will save them from themselves because they don’t believe in themselves and prefer to believe Gurus, Politicians and religious authorities who all want them to put cash into their collection boxes.

                          People Say They Want The Truth But What They Really Want Is A Knight In Shinning Armour to Save Them.

                          Frank Kern is a very clever and smart marketer. He knows what people want. Did you see the glowing testimonial he gave to Jordan Belfort “The Wolf of Wall Street”?

                          You, I and most other Warrior Forum members are not even in the same league. You have read about Franks "syndicate” right?

                          The article at: http://tinyurl.com/7b7dj76 is all about the top Internet Marketers including people who have recently been feature in the new Warrior Ask Me Anything (WAMA) section of the Warrior forum. You should read it, but you won’t want to believe it even if it is true because if you did… you would never want to get involved with any MLM, IM Business Opportunity, or believe any Marketing Guru because like Seth Godin wrote “All Marketers Are Liars”. You want the truth... read the above article then watch the video I posted below and tell me what the truth is because I'd like to know.

                          Cheers,
                          SteveSki

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  • Profile picture of the author oWEN tEBB
    So is it newbie friendly?
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  • Profile picture of the author oWEN tEBB
    So who recruited you. Im planning to join tomorrow
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  • Profile picture of the author eximman
    Besides their affiliate programme, does anyone know, what "big ticket" products we can sell too ??
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  • Profile picture of the author eximman
    Yes, big ticket items like ???
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  • Profile picture of the author oWEN tEBB
    You can sell vacations deals and a system where you can earn 3k a week. But it depends what you are after. I been a member 4 days and already had some success $650 for little effort. If you want to know more let me know
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  • Profile picture of the author oWEN tEBB
    Must admit that im suprised no one else is interested in it. Wonder why?

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  • Profile picture of the author James Campbell
    On average I get approached via facebook PM about 2-3 times per day with affiliates of ILN. They PM spam me with this damn thing. So of course, I immediately ask them where they learned this "technique" of "marketing" to PM spam someone they don't know (they just added me as a friend and then immediately pm spammed me) and if they think that this is actually REAL marketing that will build them a REAL and substantial business.

    The answer is always the same. It is the crap they teach in ILN and/or their "sponsor" is now teaching them this crap.

    Skip ILN, build your own business instead of someone else's. There is better training in the threads of this forum than there will ever be in ILN.

    Just a quick fyi, I have a real IM business with over 23,000 customers under my belt, so I'm not just talking out of my ass.

    Hopefully this helps point some of you in the right direction for your online business careers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jerzim80
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    • Profile picture of the author James Campbell
      Originally Posted by Jerzim80 View Post

      I am in Internet Lifestyle Network and I see that FB method working in other Network Marketing programs. Yes, they do teach you to reach out on Facebook, but 75%-80% of the people using that method have no clue how to use it effectively. Most of them are starving for signups and don't understand that it's about building relationships instead of getting the sale.

      But I can totally see how that would get annoying! That is why I utilize blogging and videos mostly to build a rapport and build a team. You can check out my Internet Lifestyle Network review if you want to see my blog in action.
      Nice, so you've confirmed it 100%

      ILN promotes and teaches Private Message spamming people you don't know with the end goal being that you get them to sign-up to ILN through your link. You may call it "reaching out" but what all it really amounts to is private message spamming. It doesn't matter what you feel is "building a relationship" if the end goal is to get them signed up to ILN through your link.

      It amuses me that you position yourself as "I don't do that spamming stuff" and then proceed to self-promote your blog by spamming the thread with it. Of course your end goal in doing that is clearly to simply "build a relationship" I'm sure

      If ILN is teaching Private Message spamming then it is nothing more than a way for the owners to make more money by tricking want to be marketers into engaging in actions that AREN'T ACCEPTABLE forms of marketing within the online community. It is low-level and isn't going to build the empire anyone of the ILN members is looking to build.

      ILN is not a reputable source for online marketing education. Period.

      Thank you for confirming it for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
    It seems to me like it is just one more MLM system like all the others. Join up, pay $40 per month and get $20 for everybody you recruit. If you keep getting 3 new signups a month you're making a whopping $20 a month.
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    • Profile picture of the author RobertoM
      Originally Posted by RobinInTexas View Post

      It seems to me like it is just one more MLM system like all the others. Join up, pay $40 per month and get $20 for everybody you recruit. If you keep getting 3 new signups a month you're making a whopping $20 a month.
      Hey Robin,

      As far as I know, ILN comp plan offers recurring commissions.
      So if you get 3 signups the first month, your profit will be $20.
      If you get another 3 signups the second month, you'll have $60 (recurring) for the first month + $60 for the new subscribers. So at the end of the second month your total income will be $120 and $40 in profit (discounting $80 of 2 months of membership fees),
      If you continue getting 3 new signups/mo, your profits will grow to $60/mo, $80/mo and so on.
      It doesn't sound too enticing, but I'm sure you can get way more than 3 signups per month if you do the right things.
      Plus you get 10% of the earnings of your downline if they perfom well.
      (I'm assuming you don't spend in getting traffic, which must be considered in the equation).
      Maybe I'll give it a try.
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      • Profile picture of the author RobinInTexas
        Originally Posted by RobertoM View Post

        Hey Robin,

        As far as I know, ILN comp plan offers recurring commissions.
        So if you get 3 signups the first month, your profit will be $20.
        If you get another 3 signups the second month, you'll have $60 (recurring) for the first month + $60 for the new subscribers. So at the end of the second month your total income will be $120 and $40 in profit (discounting $80 of 2 months of membership fees),
        If you continue getting 3 new signups/mo, your profits will grow to $60/mo, $80/mo and so on.
        It doesn't sound too enticing, but I'm sure you can get way more than 3 signups per month if you do the right things.
        Plus you get 10% of the earnings of your downline if they perfom well.
        (I'm assuming you don't spend in getting traffic, which must be considered in the equation).
        Maybe I'll give it a try.
        I don't recall exactly how the downline works but my recollection is that you had to upgrade from the $20 monthly to something more expensive to get a downline.

        Sounds like they are charging you for the right to sell the product. If a product is any good, they would simply pay you a commission like any reputable product does.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Feast
    ILN is really Flooded the market now, Time to look for something else online....
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Feast
    I have looked at the ILN Speed Wealth System & I totally agree with James Campbell Re: Time to build your own business online instead of someone else's.
    I haven't really seen a bad review on this yet but time will tell!
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  • Profile picture of the author vetteran
    Spamming? Nope, never.
    Yet another example of the top guy doing the best.

    There is no easy way - though that rather depends upon what you regard as "Easy".

    James Campbell is correct.

    Find what what you love to do and hope that someone will you.
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    98% of the time I am right, why worry about the other 3%?

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  • Profile picture of the author Ronald Nzimora
    So you all do this kind of shitty work just to ear $80 or what was it again per month rather than building your own business?

    Lord have mercy!
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    • Profile picture of the author GinaMSI
      This company was shut down because InfusionSoft recognized it as an illegal Ponzi, as most of these things are. And besides, Paul Darby is deep into it, the biggest conman ever. Stop signing up for these things, guys. They are ALL scams. Save your money. If you really want to work online do it yourself. You don't need these clowns taking your money. 99.9 percent of them are cons.

      Cheers
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        • Profile picture of the author GinaMSI
          Yes, I'm positive. They may have gotten a different company but InfusionSoft pulled out and they were shut down for a while.

          I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post it but check out this con artist crying about it about 3 weeks ago. (Would you want to be involved with anything he's involved with?)

          Stop buying this crap!

          I know it's painful, but enjoy....

          Info Updates - YouTube
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  • Profile picture of the author nmchant
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    • Profile picture of the author GinaMSI
      Wise choice! I read your thread about that MOBE crap. I kept getting spammed with that nonsense too. Good for you for standing up and POSTING IT! That's what gets these crooks shut down.
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    • Profile picture of the author GinaMSI
      I'm sure he doesn't have an "empire." And legal action.....LOL! Good luck to him bringing his illegal scheme to any court's attention.
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  • Profile picture of the author GinaMSI
    Clifton....no one is stupid here. You'd be better off admitting what happened.
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      • Profile picture of the author GinaMSI
        Hi NM....I posted link but seems you have to copy and paste it into your browser. It's ironic that the You Tube video account of you know who was suspended after being affiliated with this company.

        I applaud "Clifton" as well for getting on here, but his "Oh golly" remarks, i.e., "shucks, I'm just an innocent guy here trying to run a company," are lies, and I despise cons like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author GinaMSI
    Clifton, (Note the non-quotes) I'm not here to argue with anyone. I just pointed out some facts and shared a link to an article, which you still haven't addressed, except to call it "false" and "rumors."

    You, however, are calling me a "hater" because I posted said article. I'll just let your statements stand on their own.

    Have a nice day
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