I am still kinda confused. Are these programs selling anything other than the opportunity to use them? What is the main product? It seems they both just want you to join, so you can promote their program that gets other people to join and promote the program, etc. etc.
They say they are training programs but what are they training you to do? It seems you are just training how to get other people to use the program to get other people to join the program, etc. etc.
My head is hurting.