10 Months With LinkVana: Everything I Know

61 replies
It was late last August that I first signed up for LinkVana. Today, 10 months later I have just cancelled my subscription. I wanted to share my strategies for fellow and soon to be LinkVana users - what went right, what went wrong and why I inevitably cancelled.

Judging from my own affiliate statistics I would say that staying 10 months was about 9.25 months more then other people so I think I had a pretty good handle on the system.

Now that I have no affiliation with the product I can more convincingly say to you that the product does work...when used correctly. The problem I saw with other people using and inevitably leaving LinkVana was that they didn't understand how search engines work or how to properly leverage the tools in front of them.

The Good
The easiest way I found to put LinkVana to good use, was by promoting user generated content sites the search engines already like. I would dig up low competition keywords, write and post an ezine article, then use LinkVana to bolster it up and I would be off to the races. I could do this with other article directories, squidoo pages, blogger, youtube etc. They already seem to have a leg up with the search engines and combined with LinkVana the results were really great in terms of rankings.

I typically went after 50+ searches a day < 50,000 competing pages and targeted the social sites that were missing from the first page. (Ezine, squidoo, youtube)

After a couple of months promoting with LinkVana I would have winning campaigns with the search engines and start to make some affiliate commissions.

Why People Fail
The people I saw using LinkVana (and who quickly left) were using it poorly for one of two reasons in my opinion.
1) They were going after ridiculously high volume and competition keywords like '**** Berry' or 'weight loss'. They didn't stand a chance and after three whole weeks of posting with no sign of their site moving past page 1000 they would leave. First off, I usually didn't see rankings moves for 5+ weeks on relatvely easy phrases. And regrettably, Google isn't willing to give you a big hug and kiss when a new site gets a couple dozen new links for those hyper competitive words.

2) The second reason for inevitable failure was because of operator deficincies in keyword research. They went after really long and out of place keyword phrases like, "I want to cook spaghetti with my eyes closed". LinkVana did its job but it can't turn coal into a diamond because being number one for a phrase with no searches is like coming first at whistling shows...nobody cares.

Why I left:
You are probably wondering why I would leave when I could sit there and build these somewhat profitably campaigns all day long. Well I moved on. I honestly got tired of kicking around for these low search keywords that would inevitably make me a couple sales every month but not what I wanted for the effort put in. Secondly, I had a mind set change with how I felt SEO should work. I decided to stop 'gaming' the search engines in favor of simply creating good quality content/products on my own sites and allow the search engines to do what they do best.

Another reason was the way people use search engines. I have heard stats that as much as 40% of all searches are unique. My sites were getting hits from so many non typical searches spending the time and dollars to go after the select phrases in LinkVana lost their return and appeal. And finally, PPC for quick targeted traffic is just so much easier then SEO. I can test larger and bigger offers much more quickly.

So to those wondering, yes LinkVana works. It does however take a few months for you to see results so be prepared to put down 450+ and time writing. You have to be realistic, it is not a magic bullet and it is not going to be right for everyone.
#linkvana #months #review
  • Profile picture of the author Bruce NewMedia
    Thanks Michael, thats really an excellent review.

    I had looked at LinkVana before but was
    hearing alot of negative. Some, as you say, was probably marketers putting up a new site and trying to quickly rank organically for the word, "Insurance" or something.
    They no doubt figured it didn't work. :-)

    Since you say you've migrated to using PPC instead of seo, did you get any training in PPC and what kind of success have you been having there?
    _____
    Bruce
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[908875].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author CanuckMike
      Originally Posted by brucerby View Post

      Thanks Michael, thats really an excellent review.

      I had looked at LinkVana before but was
      hearing alot of negative. Some, as you say, was probably marketers putting up a new site and trying to quickly rank organically for the word, "Insurance" or something.
      They no doubt figured it didn't work. :-)

      Since you say you've migrated to using PPC instead of seo, did you get any training in PPC and what kind of success have you been having there?
      _____
      Bruce
      In terms of speed and ease of implementation PPC is hands down (and quite obviously) easier then getting high organic rankings. I can start to see affiliate commissions same/next day as apposed to fiddling with getting my articles ranked for weeks. Really no contest there. The real reason I like it over tweaking for organic is it allows me to rapidly expand good campaigns to double and quadruple my money from the 'instant' traffic.

      My training comes exclusively from, in my opinion, the holy grail of Adwords books. The classic 'Complete Guide to Adwords' by Perry Marshall. An amazing deal from Amazon for what you get. I don't really know what all the other adwords ebooks floating around teach but I felt like this one gave me the fundamentals to running a really good campaign. It may not have the latest nifty tricks but for the underlying understanding of PCC, it is great.

      I am considering joining PPC-Coach to try and learn a few new strategies however.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[908937].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author brendandott
        Banned
        [DELETED]
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[911422].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author CanuckMike
          Originally Posted by brendandott View Post

          Michael, thank for the different review against the PPC campaign. I already signed to linkvana and I see the results as you mentioned... Yes Linkvana Works.

          For the newbie prior to sign to linkvana, they should now the basic of SEO 1st. So that they can use this powerful tools properly. $147/month is very pricely to the newbie.

          Fyi, my adsense earning now growing up after I use this good Linkvana feature.

          --- If anyone would like to join LV via my affiliate, I will give back $25 every month. Please PM me.

          Thank again,
          BD -

          I think a basic understanding of keyword research and SEO will go along way.

          Here is what I did to maximize every single one of my posts. Not very hard but I think having a plan helped.
          1. Keyword appropriately used in title of post
          2. Keyword phrase used at least twice usually three times naturally in the posts. I wanted to make sure they knew what I was writing about
          3. Between 3 and 7 different target phrases so I wasn't getting all the links with the same text.
          4. 50% of the links went to the home page, 50% of the links went to the appropriate tier two page. This makes it look more natural in my opinion. Obviously I couldn't do it with my ezine article promotions but use this for more standard content sites.


          ...I appreciate your kind words but I don't think using my positive review of the program to pitch your affiliate link is all to kind/wise/good.
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[912463].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author malcasid
    Thanks Michael! I agree PPC is awesome. I will definitely pass on getting LinkVana for now.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[911583].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Brad Callen
    Good stuff Mike. Thanks for sharing that.

    Brad
    Signature
    iWriter.com - The Original Content Creation Service. Now with over 350,000 active writers. Let us write or re-write your articles, eBooks, blog posts and more... for as little as $1.25! 3,711,814 articles written to date!
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[912472].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author redfc
    thanks mic for sharing.
    cheers
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[912486].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author MikeC
    Thanks Mike, I was just about to get Linkvana and probabaly still will. However, I am not 100% certain how it works.

    If you write/get written a blurb with a link to your site that will post say every day does that one blurb get placed on a different site,thus creating a backlink, every day until you cancel the membership? So if you creat 10 blurbs posting daily you get 10 new links every day?
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[912590].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author CanuckMike
      Originally Posted by MikeC View Post

      Thanks Mike, I was just about to get Linkvana and probabaly still will. However, I am not 100% certain how it works.

      If you write/get written a blurb with a link to your site that will post say every day does that one blurb get placed on a different site,thus creating a backlink, every day until you cancel the membership? So if you creat 10 blurbs posting daily you get 10 new links every day?
      One post = One link. Each 100 word blurb you write will give you one link and be posted to one site. This in turn keeps all of their sites at a higher quality and will help you out in the long run says their site.

      It takes a lot of time/money if you want it to work out. If 150 a month scares you then I wouldn't bother with it. It will cost you a lot more providing it with the posts in either your time or your money.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[915231].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author steveniam
    I have used Linkvana for 4 or 5 months for a very competitive niche - weight loss and recently cancelled my subscription as it is quite princely especially there are other cheaper SEOs

    Some of my main keywords are ranked from 6 to 9 on google. However I am not sure it is due to Linkvana as I have used other methods such as backlinks, social bookmarking, RSS etc concurrently.

    However I do notice ranking on 6 to 9 on google does not bring much traffic. I need to be on top 5 and now I now considering PPC and other cheaper SEO alternatives.
    Signature
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[913867].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author CanuckMike
      Originally Posted by steveniam View Post

      I have used Linkvana for 4 or 5 months for a very competitive niche - weight loss and recently cancelled my subscription as it is quite princely especially there are other cheaper SEOs

      Some of my main keywords are ranked from 6 to 9 on google. However I am not sure it is due to Linkvana as I have used other methods such as backlinks, social bookmarking, RSS etc concurrently.

      However I do notice ranking on 6 to 9 on google does not bring much traffic. I need to be on top 5 and now I now considering PPC and other cheaper SEO alternatives.
      Strange that you were in position 6 and not getting traffic if you were there on a fairly high traffic volume keyword.

      One problem I see often is people checking Google for their own site and seeing it at the top but not getting any traffic. Unfortunately, your site may not actually be there. I don't know exactly how it works but I know when I click on my own sites they usually show up higher for my own searches.

      The best way to test your search rankings I found, was to use a firefox plugin called rankings check that gives you your 'true' rankings.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[915239].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Enclave
    Banned
    [DELETED]
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[916567].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author sree94
      Actually, Linkvana posts are not as much work as you might think. Yes, they have to be 100 words, and yes, they have to be unique, but the content really does not matter, as long as the post makes sense. Why? Because you're really not getting clickthroughs, unless you target a phrase that is extremely low competition

      I have more than 1,000 posts in Linkvana, and I have only gotten traffic from a couple
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[916653].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author maverick80
        Originally Posted by sree94 View Post

        Actually, Linkvana posts are not as much work as you might think. Yes, they have to be 100 words, and yes, they have to be unique, but the content really does not matter, as long as the post makes sense. Why? Because you're really not getting clickthroughs, unless you target a phrase that is extremely low competition

        I have more than 1,000 posts in Linkvana, and I have only gotten traffic from a couple
        This is inaccurate. The content around your link matters. Google analyzes the content around your link as well as the entire page to decide just how relevant the back link is to your site. The more relevant the site is that your link is placed on, the better the results.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1041166].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author CanuckMike
          Originally Posted by maverick80 View Post

          This is inaccurate. The content around your link matters. Google analyzes the content around your link as well as the entire page to decide just how relevant the back link is to your site. The more relevant the site is that your link is placed on, the better the results.
          I have to agree. One of the gripes I had was the the quality of posts that surrounded mine. Even though they had a variety of categories to put your post, I found that the majority of my posts went to sites that contained aggregates of the categories and the post was simply tagged with your choice.

          That significantly reduces the quality of the link at a time when Google tends to care less about quantity and more about quality. My posts only ended up staying on the home page of the sites a half day before more posts pilled in.

          I think a far better strategy for those looking to build their own high quality links with a network like this, is to build their own community of sites around it. This way you control every aspect of the site ensuring those sites are as optimized as possible to pass on the most power to the link. If you put the 150/month to building your own network, I think you will find even better results for yourself.
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1041315].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author CanuckMike
    Just thought I would add this in as it is my 'everything I know article':

    I have never come across a better converting affiliate program than LinkVana. I had over 20% conversion rate from hops to sales. And that was just throwing up my link on a couple sites I own on a whim. With that said, 90% of the people stayed one month and 98% < 3 months.

    I added this because I think its amazing how well it managed to convert for a $150/month product. People really want backlinks....alot haha.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1041334].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author bahnsurf
    Hi Michael,

    Thanks for sharing and yes, I do agree with you that about 40% searches are unique and search engines does not have enough data for that.

    Cheers
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1042917].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Jaspworld
    I had never heard of linkvana before but simply judging from their website and service they offer I don't think it will work.

    It's not them, I just think high PR and getting links from high PR websites in this way will do your website any good in the long term or short term.
    Signature

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1042923].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author abelacts
    Thanks for the post. This really helps people like me who are considering Linkvana.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1047517].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Jay Cunningham
    Thanks Michael for sharing. I used LinkVana for a few months myself. Worked ok. A little expensive considering what you're getting, however I spent a lot of money "trying things". I'm starting to think of internet marketing like hot rodding. You're always looking for a new piece of equipment to make your car go faster!
    Thanks for the post.
    Jay
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1047976].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author LeivaMatias
    I personally think SEO is the way to go. Its so much more passive if you build it correctly.

    Obviously going after low tier keywords your going to get burnt out, because the traffic is not their for consistency.

    Also what were you using to monetize your traffic, you forgot to explain your monetization.

    Have you thought that possibly you were monetizing incorrectly, so your results were less?

    Also 10months= $1470 in Linkvana.. Did you create a training course and outsource the work?

    Anyways PPC is great don't get me wrong. I have been through ppc-coach.com and its fairly newbie stuff.

    Your going to want to hit MSN/Yahoo and google content network hard. Make sure if you use review sites, to stick the affiliate links on them using a domain with a .php script.

    Google slapped hard last week with those review sites.

    Also if your going to go into a niche, be ready to spending $1k-$2k in testing to find decent amount of numbers to scale up..

    Right now with SEO I am spending $600 monthly for a outsource team, and slowly expanding it, I provide all the training, niches, domains etc. They do all the rest.

    Just my 2cents.
    Signature

    The Youngest Network Marketer To Crack The Internet Code: http://www.matiasleiva.com

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1055888].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Jgregory
      Thanks for sharing all this Michael.

      I seem to have arrived at the same point you did about "gaming the search engines" and going to SEO. Finding that our own backlink efforts done manually by our outcource team are not only more effective, manual link building efforts stick around.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1057282].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author sree94
        Recently, I decided I was going to cancel Linkvana after more than a year, primarily because I am focusing less on SEO these days and more on getting immediate traffic. But I figured I would get my money's worth and start submitted more Linkvana posts this month

        Yesterday, I wrote a Linkvana post for a website I have done hardly any promotion for in months. Today, I made a sale from it, my first since January.
        I also have another site that had not gotten hardly any sales recently, and I have made two sales with it recently.

        Is this because of Linkvana? No idea, but it seems like more than a coincidence
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1066543].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author seolake
    I have heard that linkvana blogs are loaded with articles, thereby causing more of a link deficit. So, I am not sure if Sree's sales relate to Linkvana or something else.

    Can an existing linkvana member vouch for the quality of blogs? They claim all of them are PR2-PR4. Is that really so?
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1066663].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Chris Koltai
      Originally Posted by seolake View Post

      I have heard that linkvana blogs are loaded with articles, thereby causing more of a link deficit. So, I am not sure if Sree's sales relate to Linkvana or something else.

      Can an existing linkvana member vouch for the quality of blogs? They claim all of them are PR2-PR4. Is that really so?
      I can field this one. From what I've seen of Linkvana's blogs, they are all at least PR2. Any time my snippets get posted I always do a copy and paste into Google to find out where they ended up.

      However, they do occasionally seem to get slapped. I had one of my posts show up on a PR2 blog, and I did a "site:" search for it in Google about a week later just wondering how many posts they had on average per site, and it turned out the blog had been de-indexed and had it's PR grayed out.

      At this point, I've been seeing good results with Linkvana, and supposedly they rotate you into higher PR blogs the longer you stay with them, but I've only been with them a couple of months now so I'll have to see how often their sites get booted from Google.
      Signature
      Honest reviews of IM products I actually use:
      Micro Niche Finder Review - KW Research Made Easy
      Tube Toolbox Review - Get friends (and views!) on Youtube without breaking TOS
      Google Sniper Review - Simple system responsible for 90% of my income.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1069397].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author seolake
        If they have PR2 or better blogs then their quality is definitely better than MAN at the least. And I have seen blogs getting booted off MAN frequently and penalized as well. Looks like LV is better from the standpoint of blog networks when you compare against MAN.

        Thanks for your clarification

        Originally Posted by Chris Koltai View Post

        I can field this one. From what I've seen of Linkvana's blogs, they are all at least PR2. Any time my snippets get posted I always do a copy and paste into Google to find out where they ended up.

        However, they do occasionally seem to get slapped. I had one of my posts show up on a PR2 blog, and I did a "site:" search for it in Google about a week later just wondering how many posts they had on average per site, and it turned out the blog had been de-indexed and had it's PR grayed out.

        At this point, I've been seeing good results with Linkvana, and supposedly they rotate you into higher PR blogs the longer you stay with them, but I've only been with them a couple of months now so I'll have to see how often their sites get booted from Google.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1070329].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author pavionjsl
    You all over pay so much for links........ swear I am stunned no one mentions a better value by far............
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1074304].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author James Schramko
      Originally Posted by pavionjsl View Post

      You all over pay so much for links........ swear I am stunned no one mentions a better value by far............
      not even you...

      Why don't you share with all of us the alternative strategies


      (Linkvana works)
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1076596].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author RichGal
        i`ve been using LinkVana for some time but found lately that it`s not working as well as before.

        Additionally, I really think this is not how we should b playing to get the high positions. Sooner or later, it will stop working this way.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1083167].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author fariez
    Wow!!! I really do not know about this!! Thanks for every post...
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1074821].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author A. van Heerden
      Thanks for sharing Michael...very informative!
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1076395].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Emmanuel Betinis
    I just found 2 blogs from the LinkVana network that have some of my posts on them.

    One of them is a Page Rank ZERO and the other one is GREYBARRED.

    I eMailed them about the GREYBARRED one and they said they'd delete it and apologized. Several days later it still hasn't been removed from the LinkVana network of blogs yet. This makes me wonder just how many other GREYBARRED sites they currently are hosting.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1368676].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author LilBlackDress
    When you leave Linkvana....don't you lose all your links?

    I believe I read that somewhere. If that is the case, that is a good reason not to use them.
    Signature

    Pen Name + 8 eBooks + social media sites 4 SALE - PM me (evergreen beauty niche)

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1369287].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Carlton Johnson
      Originally Posted by LilBlackDress View Post

      When you leave Linkvana....don't you lose all your links?

      I believe I read that somewhere. If that is the case, that is a good reason not to use them.
      I am 99% sure that is not the case, I think you are probably confusing it with another service.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1369484].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Emmanuel Betinis
      Originally Posted by LilBlackDress View Post

      When you leave Linkvana....don't you lose all your links?

      I believe I read that somewhere. If that is the case, that is a good reason not to use them.

      As long as you stay with them for 2 months or more, your links will not be removed from the system.
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1370686].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author dbarnum
        [DELETED]
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1411276].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author Emmanuel Betinis
          Originally Posted by dbarnum View Post

          There is no time limit. Dave Kelly, owner of Linkvana, may be able to go more into details with you, too

          I got that answer from the LinkVana staff themselves.
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1412528].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author dbarnum
            Originally Posted by Emmanuel Betinis View Post

            I got that answer from the LinkVana staff themselves.

            I'd confirm with Dave Kelly himself, as his site does not say that. Seriously, hadn't heard that one, but maybe it's for trial periods or something. Our account has been long term, so don't know on that.
            Signature
            Get customized help:100+ Ways / Support / Warrior4Hire Specials!



            Save & Share: Best Buys / Top Tasks / blog / MAP / Recurring $
            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1412591].message }}
            • {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1413747].message }}
              • Profile picture of the author dbarnum
                Originally Posted by Emmanuel Betinis View Post

                Exactly...


                OK, I emailed Dave over this weekend, and he replied back with the following info along with permissions for me to post it here:

                "Not the case at all. links are never removed. I have no idea where they got the 2 months thing as it is 100% false," Dave (Kelly). "...we keep your links live when you cancel. our system has no way of automatically removing links. So we'd have to log into the actual site and remove the posts manually. Not going to happen. "

                So there you have it. Go Linkvana, you rock And Dave, a BIG thanks for clearing that up and so fast, on a Sunday yet, and granting permission to post your reply. You're an awesome Warrior.
                Signature
                Get customized help:100+ Ways / Support / Warrior4Hire Specials!



                Save & Share: Best Buys / Top Tasks / blog / MAP / Recurring $
                {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1414382].message }}
                • Profile picture of the author Emmanuel Betinis
                  Originally Posted by dbarnum View Post

                  OK, I emailed Dave over this weekend, and he replied back with the following info along with permissions for me to post it here:

                  "Not the case at all. links are never removed. I have no idea where they got the 2 months thing as it is 100% false," Dave (Kelly). "...we keep your links live when you cancel. our system has no way of automatically removing links. So we'd have to log into the actual site and remove the posts manually. Not going to happen. "

                  So there you have it. Go Linkvana, you rock And Dave, a BIG thanks for clearing that up and so fast, on a Sunday yet, and granting permission to post your reply. You're an awesome Warrior.

                  Thankyou for posting this (I said this a while back but my first
                  "thankyou for posting this" post was deleted for some very strange
                  reason so I'm posting it again).



                  Originally Posted by ajldomains View Post

                  Do any of you who currently use Linkvana use this for traditional service based business and what are your overall performance results?

                  I have a lot of high ranked websites but I am always looking for fast and easy ways to link build. I have a service business and I use alot of the strategies I learned from this website and they have me ranking high.

                  Seems to me creating Linkvana posts is simple and would take only a few minutes a day to create 100-200 word posts with my speech recognition software. I could probabbly knock out 5-10 posts per day.

                  I would really be interested in your responses or PM me.

                  Thanks,
                  Jim

                  Jim,

                  I've used LinkVana for going on 7 months now and I'm still
                  not sure if I would recommend it or not. The keywords I'm
                  going for have a low strength of competition with reasonable
                  search volume(s) spread out over 10 markets with 11 content
                  pages each over 10 websites. Keep in mind, however, LinkVana
                  is not my only method of backlinking, so it would be hard for me
                  to tell you it's great even if I WAS ranking well for all pages of
                  all websites. What I can tell you is:

                  • It has a nice professionally laid out interface
                  • It allows you to backlink to an unlimited # of pages
                  • You can set-up "drip-fed" backlinks over time
                  I can also tell you:
                  • You must be prepared to spend time writing posts or
                  • Be prepared to spend $2 additional for each backlink if you don't want to spend the time writing each post yourself.
                  • Be patient (7 months later and I'm still waiting for satisfactory results with these test sites)
                  {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1472670].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author JFVJ
        Originally Posted by Emmanuel Betinis View Post

        As long as you stay with them for 2 months or more, your links will not be removed from the system.
        There is a 5 day trial now. That means that if you finish the trial and don´t buy the full product they will delete the links?
        Signature

        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2430093].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author dbarnum
          Originally Posted by JFVJ View Post

          There is a 5 day trial now. That means that if you finish the trial and don´t buy the full product they will delete the links?

          About the removal of links during any time period - 2 weeks, months, or any time: that's not correct.

          Straight from Linkvana's support team just now when I pointed to this post and asked, "You don't remove links. Correct? "

          Their prompt reply:

          "Hi,

          Yes, we don't delete the links.

          Jack, Linkvana"


          Here's their Contact Us link (no affil):

          http://www.linkvana.com/contact.php
          Signature
          Get customized help:100+ Ways / Support / Warrior4Hire Specials!



          Save & Share: Best Buys / Top Tasks / blog / MAP / Recurring $
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2430175].message }}
          • Profile picture of the author JFVJ
            Originally Posted by dbarnum View Post

            About the removal of links during any time period - 2 weeks, months, or any time: that's not correct.

            Straight from Linkvana's support team just now when I pointed to this post and asked, "You don't remove links. Correct? "

            Their prompt reply:

            "Hi,

            Yes, we don't delete the links.

            Jack, Linkvana"


            Here's their Contact Us link (no affil):

            Linkvana - Contact
            Thanks Diana.
            Signature

            {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2430247].message }}
            • Profile picture of the author dbarnum
              You're welcome! I try to keep up-to-date on all this since my company uses Linkvana regularly for our own promos and for those of our clients. So anything that shouts a red flag makes me run there - - - OK, cause I wanna know, too, darn it

              And then if it turns out negative for users, well, I'll have to let the owner there, Dave Kelly, and his team have it with wet, soggy, gross, moldy way-past-day-old bread in the mail until things get fixed
              Signature
              Get customized help:100+ Ways / Support / Warrior4Hire Specials!



              Save & Share: Best Buys / Top Tasks / blog / MAP / Recurring $
              {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2430584].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author sree94
    You do NOT lose your links if you leave Linkvana. You are thinking of 3WayLinks
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1369497].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author The Artful Surfer
    Linkvana is an excellent, excellent tool. I'm surprised you guys are giving up on it. They also provide excellent and friendly customer service. I've been with them since late 2007.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1415426].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author ajldomains
      Do any of you who currently use Linkvana use this for traditional service based business and what are your overall performance results?

      I have a lot of high ranked websites but I am always looking for fast and easy ways to link build. I have a service business and I use alot of the strategies I learned from this website and they have me ranking high.

      Seems to me creating Linkvana posts is simple and would take only a few minutes a day to create 100-200 word posts with my speech recognition software. I could probabbly knock out 5-10 posts per day.

      I would really be interested in your responses or PM me.

      Thanks,
      Jim
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1470179].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author ajldomains
    Emmanuel,

    Thanks - I am ranking pretty well (G 1st page) on three of my websites right now and I use backlink packets currently. I use XsitePro to design my pages which really helps the proper design.

    Looks like I will pass on this for now and keep watching. Thanks for your response.

    Jim
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1473047].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author Emmanuel Betinis
      Originally Posted by ajldomains View Post

      Emmanuel,

      Thanks - I am ranking pretty well (G 1st page) on three of my websites right now and I use backlink packets currently. I use XsitePro to design my pages which really helps the proper design.

      Looks like I will pass on this for now and keep watching. Thanks for your response.

      Jim

      Jim,

      one thing I'd like to add is if your domains are NOT
      brand new and you've had them for a while (6 months
      or more), then your success with LinkVana will more
      than likely be more probable because of the simple
      fact you'll probably have more trust already built
      with the search engines.

      You brought up a key point here, and that is
      you're already ranking on page 1 of Google.
      Given this information, you'll have a higher
      chance of seeing faster results with LinkVana
      vs. using a brand new domain.

      And of course, always mix up the types of
      links you use in your backlinking strategies
      (Not JUST articles, not JUST web directories,
      not JUST social bookmarking, not JUST LinkVana,
      but all of them combined together).
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1473133].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author ajldomains
    E,

    Point taken --- that is the strategy I have been trying to employ. Yes, all of my domains that I consider to be ranking well (first page of G) are average 2-3 years old.

    There is a service out there who will build 400 links for $99 per per month (not blogs but using anchor text on social bookmarking sites, etc).

    I guess the difficult part is trying to decipher "what kind" of links G likes. In order for me to get 400 links with linkvana to the same site per month I would have to average about 13 posts per day. Not going to happen since I can only spend 2-3 hours per day on my IM unless I want to spend a couple days doing posts and then drip them but even using my Naturally Speaker software 13 posts per day would be time consuming and I don't want to pay $2 per post to outsource (call me cheap, stubborn, whatever - have to save the budget somewhere).

    At 13 posts per day thats an added $26 daily expense - I spend more than that on Adwords so I am trying to watch my ROI - at least adwords is trackable - with linkbuilding your organic results is somewhat of a guessing game.

    I don't know if I am comparing apples to apples but using this analysis -- Linkvana seems to be very expensive for the value for my usage requirements - now if were a full time IM'er who builds for other companies, seems like a pretty good tool to have on the belt.

    Jim
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1474172].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Thoma$
    Thanks for this review, I have been a linkvana member for close to a year as well and you have just confirmed what I was suspecting: linkvana can help rank articles on authority sites with low competition keywords, but it's a waste of time and money for more competitive keywords.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1885902].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author Thoma$
    Originally Posted by Jaspworld View Post

    I had never heard of linkvana before but simply judging from their website and service they offer I don't think it will work.

    It's not them, I just think high PR and getting links from high PR websites in this way will do your website any good in the long term or short term.
    Linkvana advertise your links end up on high PR websites (1-6 as far as I remember) but this is wrong. When I checked my backlinks (linkvana won't give away the urls of their websites for obvious reasons), I discovered that like 90% of the blogs are either PR1 or PR2. Only a very small percentage is PR3. I couldn't find a single high PR blog on the linkvana network.

    Edit: I have just checked my backlinks again (last time I did it was months ago) and most blogs I find my links on seem to be PR3 now (I could find a PR4 as well).
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[1886034].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author linkbuildr
      You will have a much better time writing wicked guest blog posts for people than using this system. I have looked at it for clients and I would not recommend it for a legit business, affiliate blogs perhaps...
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2055568].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Richnana
        Absolutely great insight and information. Will save people money and time. Overall, it would seem that PPC is the way to go to get fast and effective payment. Thank you Mike for taking the time to give an honest and fair review of LV.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2453011].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author gman2319
      Originally Posted by Thoma$ View Post

      Linkvana advertise your links end up on high PR websites (1-6 as far as I remember) but this is wrong. When I checked my backlinks (linkvana won't give away the urls of their websites for obvious reasons), I discovered that like 90% of the blogs are either PR1 or PR2. Only a very small percentage is PR3. I couldn't find a single high PR blog on the linkvana network.

      Edit: I have just checked my backlinks again (last time I did it was months ago) and most blogs I find my links on seem to be PR3 now (I could find a PR4 as well).
      They say this on their sales page
      Unlimited Links
      There are absolutely no limits on the amount of quality links you acquire from LinkVana. We only ask that the sites you are linking to be of good quality themselves.


      They say this on their sales page but they have a ridiculous system of approving only 2-5 posts per day. That makes it 60-150 posts a month. How is this unlimited. I find that really really Limited!

      For 150 Posts, It is obvious that I cant have 10 campaigns with 15 posts each coz that is just not enough. So I can have at max 2 campaigns(with 75 links) or 1 campaign with 150 posts. If I am going to spend 150$ on a single campaign, it is obvious that it is making me good money which usually means that it is something with a high competition, and again...for high competition stuff...150 posts from linkvana just doesnt seem to cut it.

      Grossly overpriced is my opinion. I read unlimited. I bought and they say limited. And whats worse....it isnt even a valid fair usage policy(in my books).

      Most definitely quitting after this month
      Signature

      My Signature..MY SIGNATURE!

      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2399345].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author Fitnessdad
        Thats the reason I like seolinkvine
        Signature
        New Residual Income Business Opportunity, Looking for Sales Professionals and Sales Managers. SEO experience is a plus.
        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2399443].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author dbarnum
          Gman2319, if I'm reading your math and post right (speed reading again, hey, soup's about ready), that's only 'per project.' You can have unlimited projects (URLs), and people who are Linkvana members generally have a minimum of 6 sites or more to market (my guess-timate, not staff there or anything). You could ask at their site.
          Signature
          Get customized help:100+ Ways / Support / Warrior4Hire Specials!



          Save & Share: Best Buys / Top Tasks / blog / MAP / Recurring $
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2399467].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author ryanvroman
    I have been with Linkvana for 8 months now. I use it for several of my own sites as well as client sites.

    You get 2 - 5 posts per day PER PROJECT. You can have unlimited projects. A project is a page. For instance, you can have 5 squidoo lenses, and promote 2 - 5 links per day PER LENS.

    Typically you will see 100 - 120 links per month per domain. These are, in fact, great links. I have client sites I use linkvana with and in 6 months I have 10 relatively competitive 2-word keywords in the top 5.

    The system works. If you are writing your own posts for linkvana, these are only 100 word posts, if you can type fast, these take about 3 minutes per post. You can outsource through linkvana for $2/post or hire other writers for $1/post.

    Either way, I bill clients for all this and outsource it all through linkvana. All my clients sites consistently see huge increases on Google.

    There really is nothing negative to say about the service, it's not cheap, but I don't want it to be cheap. They OWN all their blogs, so they are all quality blogs with typical pr2 - pr3 links.

    Not much else to say, these links have proven over and over on everything I throw into it to be extremely effective. It's a long term strategy though but works like a charm.

    I don't do affiliate marketing, I use it to promote my own sites and client sites, and again, EVERY site I throw into it I see huge gains into the top positions.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2400383].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author tri
    Thanks for sharing Michael, very honest and detail review.
    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2430191].message }}
  • Profile picture of the author JFVJ
    I have been watching some videos on youtube about linkvane and there is something i am not sure i understand.

    If you have one site, then you create on project for it, right? Lets suppose you choose the option to submit 2-5 posts a day.

    Now if you submit 5 posts how many links will you have per day? Will you have only 2-5 posts per project or 2-5 per post (which in this example would make 10-25 per project)?
    Signature

    {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2436828].message }}
    • Profile picture of the author dbarnum
      Originally Posted by JFVJ View Post

      I have been watching some videos on youtube about linkvane and there is something i am not sure i understand.

      If you have one site, then you create on project for it, right? Lets suppose you choose the option to submit 2-5 posts a day.

      Now if you submit 5 posts how many links will you have per day? Will you have only 2-5 posts per project or 2-5 per post (which in this example would make 10-25 per project)?
      Hi,

      I'll try to help with the math.

      In a nutshell, you get 2-5 posts per project (i.e. per URL) per day.
      And each post has 1 link in it.


      So in one day, you'd have 2-5 posts (i.e. 2-5 links) total per day per URL.


      Example: if you head to the Downloads area on my help desk, look at this PDF file (no need to enter an email address or anything, just click the Download like to read the "Linkvana Report Sample PDF" file):

      Linkvana Report Sample PDF - Powered by Kayako eSupport Helpdesk Software


      - You will find 16 blog posts for this project (all are for 1 URL, but some posts are linked to different folders within the URL).

      - You can't tell it here, but let's say this project were: Project: MySite.com

      Links in the project could be (this is only an example below):

      www.mysite.com/folder1|keyword1
      www.mysite.com/folder2|keyword2
      www.mysite.com/folder3|keyword3
      and so on....

      So in one day, 2 - 5 of those posts on that PDF went live, meaning 2-5 new links were just made for that project.


      Some info to keep in mind:

      Dave Kelly, Linkvana owner, runs a tight ship. I.E. unknown people aren't adding x-rate, spamming and other blogs to the network. It's a controlled network, built by Dave and maintained for quality control, as some other good blog networks are. His goal is not to blast out unlimited, unknown URLs per day per everyone everywhere, making Google and other engines run away - fast.

      His process helps with a more manual-looking gradual growth look. Other blog networks do generally have a variety of their own controls, too. So hopefully I'm describing this accurately. If not, someone will jump in, so stay tuned
      Signature
      Get customized help:100+ Ways / Support / Warrior4Hire Specials!



      Save & Share: Best Buys / Top Tasks / blog / MAP / Recurring $
      {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2436931].message }}
      • Profile picture of the author JFVJ
        Hi Diana,

        I am starting in internet marketing so i have only one site. This means that if i used linkvana i would only get a maximun of 5 links a day. Also you have to pay $147, so if i understand correctely, linkvana is not worth for people like me who are just starting and have only one website, right?

        Edited: You can´t have more than one project per site right? The idea was to get more than 2-5 backlinks per day for different pages of the same site.

        thanks,
        Fabio
        Signature

        {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2436965].message }}
        • Profile picture of the author dbarnum
          Hi Fabio,

          It can actually depend - -a lot on your promotions and how you use the tool, just as with several other other web-based tools. Ideas to consider:

          - You can promote your site.

          - You can promote links to promos for your URLs like those of your Tweets, Warrior forum posts, Hubpages, Squidoo lenses, EzineArticles, GoArticles and other links (i.e. set up a project for each URL).

          - Do affiliate marketing with it, selling other people’s products and services.

          - Be an affiliate seller for Linkvana and earn $50 each month from people who sign up

          - Sell link building for others: local businesses, online business, web marketers, etc.

          - JVs: team up with your own writers, SEO helpers, etc. and offer link building / SEO services.

          - Other ways…? Check around the Warrior forum to see what people want and how you could fit this in.


          Then take then above and do the math: multiple each project by 1 link X 2-5 times each per day ...plus any affiliate and other potential income derived from your work throughout the month. Can add up
          Signature
          Get customized help:100+ Ways / Support / Warrior4Hire Specials!



          Save & Share: Best Buys / Top Tasks / blog / MAP / Recurring $
          {{ DiscussionBoard.errors[2436996].message }}

Trending Topics