Solavei?

by momakmak 162 replies
Im looking to get some input about Solavei.
Have you joined?
Have you recruited new members?
Have you gotten paid?

I believe I will join soon and then send out direct mailing to get the word out and hopefully some downline.

Please do not post your Solavei affiliate links on this thread!
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Chicas
    I'm quite happy in making Solavei part of my mobile marketing business. It's pretty easy to pass on the info to others without doing any hard selling. I'm not sure if internet marketing is the most suitable for this kind of venture, but if you have business cards and pass them out everywhere you go - then you'll begin gathering people here and there.

    This program won't make you rich but it does pay. Matter of fact, Today for the first time I used the debit card they provide. So it works! ; )

    So again, direct mailing might not be the best approach, but give it a try for yourself. There is no large capital to invest and it's actually kinda fun.

    All the best of luck.
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    MLM and Network Marketing is a difficult business, you depend on your downline to earn money, most people who join are not active, especially if it is free to join.
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  • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
    I've been a part of it since early September. I love it!

    I have saved money and made money.

    I've used my Solavei Debit card multiple times.

    I believe that is going to make a lot of noise in direct selling and network marketing.

    Amazing!

    I have the service and this is a no brainer in my opinion.

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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    Originally Posted by momakmak View Post

    Im looking to get some input about Solavei.
    Have you joined?
    Have you recruited new members?
    Have you gotten paid?

    I believe I will join soon and then send out direct mailing to get the word out and hopefully some downline.

    Please do not post your Solavei affiliate links on this thread!
    I just wrote a Solavei review on my site about a week ago.
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    • Profile picture of the author wagsgraphx
      I was interested in them also. I've come to learn that they are not the only Mobile phone MLM out here. Do your research.

      Generally I'm not a fan of MLM, it seems the only successful people are the ones that are able to front load product on their downline.
      The really successful people are often ones who have brought over existing downlines into the new MLM opportunity or have bought existing downlines from other products and brought them over.

      If you are looking at MLM, make sure it's a product people need or are going to buy anyway. I think cell phones, coffee or any other consumable product might be worth a look, as long as it's price competitive to what the consumer can buy locally.

      Make sure you have a strong/successful upline, that is interested in seeing you become successful, not just in unloading product on you.
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      • Profile picture of the author wagsgraphx
        My concerns about Solavei are:
        1. How do people pay for one of the 3 phone choices they have?
        2. Prices for the phones are somewhere about $150 - $550.
        3. Are you targeting the same low income market that Cricket
        does?
        If so, see #1. I know people find the money for what they want often before getting what they need.

        Will the market be receptive to those 3 phone choices?
        Some phones already in possession by your potential client may be Soavei approved to switch over, but only work at 2g speeds.

        Will people be willing to pay early cancellation fees to switch over or are those people not your market?

        It will be interesting to watch this company's progress.
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          • Profile picture of the author wagsgraphx
            Thanks for the detailed reply. The problem I see can be that people want instant gratification. They like walking into a store and walking out with a phone. How do people pay for their phone purchase? Does Solavei have a merchant account that you are able to use? How long does it take to get the phone?

            I think the more hoops you make people jump through the less likely they are to buy.

            What has been you most successful selling/recruiting method?
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      • Profile picture of the author lianecarmi
        Originally Posted by wagsgraphx View Post

        I was interested in them also. I've come to learn that they are not the only Mobile phone MLM out here. Do your research.
        Yeah - after I joined some guy phone blasted me trying to sell his phone MLM. The biggest difference I see is the cost - Solavei doesn't bloat their prices to turn themselves into an MLM, they just do away with advertising.

        Originally Posted by wagsgraphx View Post

        Generally I'm not a fan of MLM, it seems the only successful people are the ones that are able to front load product on their downline.
        The really successful people are often ones who have brought over existing downlines into the new MLM opportunity or have bought existing downlines from other products and brought them over.
        I agree - to some extent. Yeah, it definitely helps to be good at network marketing, and to have a team already in place...but with the right angle you can also make this into a simple affiliate business (think of all the Sprint / AT&T / Verizon ads that you see every single day on the web).


        Originally Posted by wagsgraphx View Post

        Thanks for the detailed reply. The problem I see can be that people want instant gratification. They like walking into a store and walking out with a phone. How do people pay for their phone purchase? Does Solavei have a merchant account that you are able to use? How long does it take to get the phone?

        I think the more hoops you make people jump through the less likely they are to buy.

        What has been you most successful selling/recruiting method?
        True. Which is why Solavei now has SIM cards you can get in advance, to set people up on the spot. Personally, my most successful strategy thus far has been reaching out to affiliates who already know how to set up campaigns (note, affiliates, not network marketers).

        Originally Posted by momakmak View Post

        Im looking to get some input about Solavei.
        Have you joined?
        Have you recruited new members?
        Have you gotten paid?

        I believe I will join soon and then send out direct mailing to get the word out and hopefully some downline.

        Please do not post your Solavei affiliate links on this thread!
        To answer the OP...
        1) yes
        2) yes
        3) yes

        Originally Posted by nmoppa01 View Post

        MLM and Network Marketing is a difficult business, you depend on your downline to earn money, most people who join are not active, especially if it is free to join.
        Yeah, a good downline definitely helps. The nice thing about this is that you can make money without a downline if you just set up the right types of campaigns. In other words, you can be a network marketer and make this work, and have a team working for you - or you can be an affiliate, and make this work solo.

        As for me - I'm doing a combination. I've got a team of affiliates who I support....plus a bunch of people just looking for cheap phone service.
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      do you have a link to the blog post?
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    Question to those involved in Solavei how does it compare to My Lightyear?
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  • Profile picture of the author nmoppa01
    "There are people already making good money with it, trust me. I don't happen to be one of them yet but I will be."

    SAYS ENOUGH, lol, just propaganda
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    • Profile picture of the author wagsgraphx
      Like I stated previously, the big money makers are usually people who brought over existing downlines.
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      • Profile picture of the author nmoppa01
        Originally Posted by wagsgraphx View Post

        Like I stated previously, the big money makers are usually people who brought over existing downlines.
        Yes, that is how MLM works, having large (but more important: active) downliners. Unfortunately they are scarse, the active ones I mean. MLM/Network Marketing is a tough business in spite of what people tell you on their sales pages.
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      • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
        Originally Posted by wagsgraphx View Post

        Like I stated previously, the big money makers are usually people who brought over existing downlines.
        In this case...the company is so new everyone has the same opportunity as the next.

        This is such an easy sell.

        I was printing up some flyers where I work and my best friend/owner saw the flyer and later asked me about it since his Sprint contract was up.

        Now he is signing up and so is his brother and so is another one of his employees and so is a friend.

        Who doesn't want to save money on cell phone?

        I broke my ATT contract and I'm coming out way on top over the next 12 months.

        He asked me how he should handle it and I said it would b best that those 3 sign up under him instead of me because he would get a bonus and he would get $20 every single month. It then was a no-brainer to him that his phone bill will net @$29/mo and he is not even working the business. his exact repsonse "That would help me".

        This is too simple,


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    • Profile picture of the author stevet563
      Not so. I am in a group with a gentleman who saw it big and developed a total system with lead capture pages, personal blog, banners, email swipes, a virtual printer for cards and flyers, an online training portal, a youtube channel, and a daily conderence call. Do you think with all this in place it is all hype and "just propaganda"? I don't think so. As a matter of fact, I know he's making a killing.
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  • Profile picture of the author momakmak
    I will be joining this soon. I have a tmobile smartphone with 4g and I love their service.

    Before the t-mobile I was with sprint. Hands down sprint was the worst service I ever had. They were so huge on marketing their service but it was ALL lies. It would cut in and out everywhere in my town and the 4g was terribly slow.

    Anyone know how to get out of a contract? I still have my pops on my old sprint phone and he is cussing me out every day. LOL
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    • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
      Originally Posted by momakmak View Post

      I will be joining this soon. I have a tmobile smartphone with 4g and I love their service.

      Before the t-mobile I was with sprint. Hands down sprint was the worst service I ever had. They were so huge on marketing their service but it was ALL lies. It would cut in and out everywhere in my town and the 4g was terribly slow.

      Anyone know how to get out of a contract? I still have my pops on my old sprint phone and he is cussing me out every day. LOL
      I've heard that what you can do is just switch to the lowest service available which should only cost like $20/month. Not sure if that's true but it's worth asking about.

      Then sign up for Solavei (see my sig) and invite friends and family and soon you'll be making enough income to pay for the $20/ month on the old contract AND get Solavei free. The main thing is that if you live in an area where TMobile has good coverage (there's a map on my site) you will be getting very good 4g fast service, unlimited talk/ text/ and data and say good riddance to effing Sprint!
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  • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
    Anyone from Puerto Rico here?

    Solavei officially launches in Puerto Rico October 20th.

    Puerto Rico Promotion.
    In the month of October ONLY for NEW PR Members.
    Free Sim card - $29 Value
    Free 1st month of service - $49 Value.

    Wow. Solavei is going all out! There is only room for 1,000 guests at the official launch event in San Juan. Make sure to register EARLY as there are thousands of people wanting to attend.

    Company is growing fast.

    35K members and it's still so early.

    Thank you Solavei!

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  • Profile picture of the author dexignz
    I joined solavei with my own phone using a new number and the service has been great so far. The only thing I noticed is that if you use a phone that is not 4G then you won't benefit from the full network coverage. Example, I have an older andriod phone that's not 4g and sometimes my network was not available but when I took the sim card out and put in my newer 3g and 4g phone the signal was perfect. I've also recruited people in my network and their FAST Action Bonus is good and they pay! I recommend it.
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    This sounds awesome, I am looking into trying this out.
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    • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
      Originally Posted by hardwork7 View Post

      If you want more information. I have a Facebook page on a review for it.

      If you have any questions about anything about it, I would love to help you out. I have researched them extensively!

      Did you know you are in violation of your member service agreement?

      Go back and read it. I'm sure Solavei will be asking you to remove that page before you know it.

      I Am Solavei!

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      • Profile picture of the author hardwork7
        No I didn't know that. I have been trying to do everything abiding by all the rules they have (which are many by the way).
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        • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
          Originally Posted by hardwork7 View Post

          No I didn't know that. I have been trying to do everything abiding by all the rules they have (which are many by the way).
          I don't blame them...that helps them protect their name and future.

          Read the member agreement in your backoffice. It will help.

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  • Profile picture of the author momakmak
    LOL, It has begun.

    Theres so many places to "hide" affiliate links.
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  • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
    Why is his page a violation?

    Can one advertise a web site for Solavei as long as the ad itself does not mention Solavei in it?
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    • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
      Originally Posted by seosoldier View Post

      Why is his page a violation?

      Can one advertise a web site for Solavei as long as the ad itself does not mention Solavei in it?
      We can advertise our Solavei site.

      We are not allowed to set up facebook fanpages with the name Solavei in it.

      Makes sense to me.
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      • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
        Originally Posted by CoachManny View Post

        We can advertise our Solavei site.

        We are not allowed to set up facebook fanpages with the name Solavei in it.

        Makes sense to me.
        Yes, I agree that it makes sense in principle; yet a lot of people are doing such things and the Solavei powers that be don't seem to be doing much about it, so to me, if they're going to have rules then they have to try to make it an even playing field, not let some get away with it. And from what I have heard some of the initial founding members are breaking rules like this. I haven't investigated it because it's not my job but I did hear this and if it's true then that's not cool.

        The rule makes sense but enforcing it is another thing altogether. At some point they'll have to hire a full time "enforcer" if they intend to keep the playing field level.

        And I do think they may be clinging a little TOO tightly re some rules. There are a few things I do question their strictness on.

        But in general I love the company and see a lot of potential and my service is great so far.

        There are always some problems or disagreements with any company that makes and enforces (or doesn't enforce, as the case may be) rules! :p

        In the end it can get down to a company (as in the case of one I'm dealing with now) arguing over distributors' rights to use the word productname vs the word product-name, and it's just ridiculous. Both keywords have 4000 monthly searches so to not use one is to lose 4000 potential customers but they're worried about their "brand" as opposed to caring about making sales!

        Another thing is a company will say YOU CAN'T PUT "PRODUCTNAME" in the name of your domain, but then they allow everyone to put pages up like "MYSITE.com/PRODUCTNAME" so really, what's the difference?? Do you see what I mean? Sometimes it can get kind of petty and silly.

        And sometimes the rules are not enforced and sometimes then they are selectively enforced and that's what I have a problem with... when it's not a level playing field and the rules do not apply to everyone. And as I say, sometimes the rules cannot be enforced, really, unless the co. hires a full time staff to enforce them!

        So it's going to be interesting to see how this all pans out!

        In any case I am very optimistic about Solavei and INTEND to make a lot of money with it!
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        • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
          Originally Posted by seosoldier View Post

          Yes, I agree that it makes sense in principle; yet a lot of people are doing such things and the Solavei powers that be don't seem to be doing much about it, so to me, if they're going to have rules then they have to try to make it an even playing field, not let some get away with it. And from what I have heard some of the initial founding members are breaking rules like this. I haven't investigated it because it's not my job but I did hear this and if it's true then that's not cool.

          The rule makes sense but enforcing it is another thing altogether. At some point they'll have to hire a full time "enforcer" if they intend to keep the playing field level.

          And I do think they may be clinging a little TOO tightly re some rules. There are a few things I do question their strictness on.

          But in general I love the company and see a lot of potential and my service is great so far.

          There are always some problems or disagreements with any company that makes and enforces (or doesn't enforce, as the case may be) rules! :p

          In the end it can get down to a company (as in the case of one I'm dealing with now) arguing over distributors' rights to use the word productname vs the word product-name, and it's just ridiculous. Both keywords have 4000 monthly searches so to not use one is to lose 4000 potential customers but they're worried about their "brand" as opposed to caring about making sales!

          Another thing is a company will say YOU CAN'T PUT "PRODUCTNAME" in the name of your domain, but then they allow everyone to put pages up like "MYSITE.com/PRODUCTNAME" so really, what's the difference?? Do you see what I mean? Sometimes it can get kind of petty and silly.

          And sometimes the rules are not enforced and sometimes then they are selectively enforced and that's what I have a problem with... when it's not a level playing field and the rules do not apply to everyone. And as I say, sometimes the rules cannot be enforced, really, unless the co. hires a full time staff to enforce them!

          So it's going to be interesting to see how this all pans out!

          In any case I am very optimistic about Solavei and INTEND to make a lot of money with it!
          You make some very good points!

          I know they are going after violators and giving them the take it down warnings.

          You are right tho...they will need a full time person to make the playing field even.

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          • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
            Manny, I'd like to add however that I do hope when they find violations they give the person a chance to right things and not just kick them out. I have seen many cases where people - like the guy above with the Facebook page - didn't realize they were violating TOS.

            I'm a big believer in giving someone a 2nd chance, unlike Google with Adsense where they just destroy someone's business immediately with no explanation and no appeal process. I would hope Solavei would not act like that. I know in one case someone I know was advertising on Adwords and they told them to stop, and she did, and that was that.
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              Originally Posted by seosoldier View Post

              Manny, I'd like to add however that I do hope when they find violations they give the person a chance to right things and not just kick them out. I have seen many cases where people - like the guy above with the Facebook page - didn't realize they were violating TOS.

              I'm a big believer in giving someone a 2nd chance, unlike Google with Adsense where they just destroy someone's business immediately with no explanation and no appeal process. I would hope Solavei would not act like that. I know in one case someone I know was advertising on Adwords and they told them to stop, and she did, and that was that.
              I wanted to follow up on this.

              Solavei is definitely stepping up their game on violators.

              I am hearing it more and more.

              Hope this helps,

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  • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
    For those interested in getting in, Solavei just extended their "get one month free and a free sim card" campaign through November (2012)!
    They have also extended it to us original members, that if we get 3 people to join we get a free month as well as our bonus PLUS our $20/month per "trio"!

    This shows they are working with their members to help grow their business and is a very good sign.

    While Solavei is growing very fast, it is still in its infancy so there is MUCH room to grow with it! Right now they've been in business only one month and have around 50k subscribers. But their goal - which I believe they are likely to reach once people hear about how good the service is, and they begin to get name recognition - is to get millions. So our piece of that pie could be huge. Which is why now is the time to get in and get started. If you have any questions at all PM me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Chicas
    Michael...

    Yes, Solavei is def. planning on expanding to other territories besides the US, I would say within next year. They are already rapidly developing and putting into motion international calling and international texting. There are a lot of more opportunities coming forth as quick as possible. I think next year will bring that progress. So for that reason I recommend others who want to get in to do it asap.

    Also, don't forget the Christmas season will soon be upon us, so whether it's Solavei or any other good offer that you want to make money with, products, etc. Now is the time to take action. Don't wait 'til it's too late and not make any money during the busiest shopping time of the year. All the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Z
    Sorry my ignorance, but solavei is a phone company? like verizon, at &t ? I signed to a mlm which you only download an application which is free on your cell phone and you start making money from your phone calls, sms. Not involving any sales.
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    • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
      Originally Posted by Bibi goldstein View Post

      Sorry my ignorance, but solavei is a phone company? like verizon, at &t ?
      You are far from ignorant buddy! Solavei is a new company that just launched in September. It is not a phone company at all. It is a partnered MVNO for T-Mobile. Short but sweet explanation is that Solavei is a better way to get mobile service at a great price - plus the opportunity to earn when you share.

      I hope this helps.

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    • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
      Originally Posted by Bibi goldstein View Post

      Sorry my ignorance, but solavei is a phone company? like verizon, at &t ? I signed to a mlm which you only download an application which is free on your cell phone and you start making money from your phone calls, sms. Not involving any sales.
      Solavei is a mobile service that costs $49 a month for unlimited 4G talk/text/data. OR you can get it free by sharing it with 3 people and they share it with 3 each... or you share it with 9. There is no limit on how much you can make; they'll pay you $20 per month, per "trio" of 3 people you sign up plus one level down from you (i.e; the people you sign up get others to join).

      Service quality depends on where you live/work. Solavei has a page where you can check service in your area before joining up. My service is fantastic! Never had one problem so far and my internet is quick and it's nice to know I can text all I want and surf the net without worrying about getting a bigger phone bill. Granted I'm biased but I wouldn't lie about it, my service is fantastic.
      If you have any questions feel free to pm me.

      By the way, can anyone explain to me why sometimes when I come to this site my signature does not show up and other times it does??
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  • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
    I am involved in another MLM business and I have no downline at all - 1 person actually who has not made 1 sale! - and yet I am averaging $1700 a month in sales. I just wanted to add that because not ALL MLM's require you to get in early or have a big downline. If it's a good product with a fair commission you can make good money just on sales.

    Do I WISH I had a nice downline? Yes. I've just never figured out how to get people to sign up under me. With Solavei I've at least got a start on that, but I've been "1 away" from trio now for over a month. I think (hope anyway!) that Solavei will take off once it gets more well known.

    Right now people are skeptical because it seems too good of a deal, and then you've got people with iphones who don't want to lose their 4g speed, and people in contracts who don't want to switch from what they perceive as a good deal and good service, to something unknown to them. So it's not a super easy sale right now. But I think in the near future it will get easier as more and more people know someone who has it and knows it's a real deal, with good service.

    My service is fantastic! But it's hard to convince people you're not just blowing smoke...
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      Originally Posted by seosoldier View Post

      My service is fantastic! But it's hard to convince people you're not just blowing smoke...
      Don't convince people. There are so many people out there it's crazy. Don't waste time with them.

      They either get it or they don't.

      If you want to just sell service then start a kiosk and you can sell service everyday.

      If you want to make big money then look for like minded people like you. They are everywhere.

      There is a reason the company is over 77,000 strong and have only launched just 8 weeks ago. That is incredible. I have people calling me up because they see this is a no-brainer. Just signed someone up who downgraded his att plan to the lowest monthly and put his service on flip phone and signed up with Solavei and using his iPhone.

      Another T-Mobile member called me yesterday and going to sign up.

      This is a no-brainer man. Just keep plugging away and don't focus on convincing people. Don't waste your energy. Not worth it.

      See you at the top,

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        Manny, I didn't mean convince them in the sense of arguing with them or pleading etc. I meant convince them just in the sense of having web pages etc out there and getting them to bite. Not sure what method you're using but I'm just not getting a lot of bites.

        I agree it's a no brainer. It just seems like people aren't "flocking to it" - so far - the way I thought they would. To me it is an easy choice.
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          Originally Posted by seosoldier View Post

          Manny, I didn't mean convince them in the sense of arguing with them or pleading etc. I meant convince them just in the sense of having web pages etc out there and getting them to bite. Not sure what method you're using but I'm just not getting a lot of bites.

          I agree it's a no brainer. It just seems like people aren't "flocking to it" - so far - the way I thought they would. To me it is an easy choice.

          Gotcha!

          What is working for me is friends and family and facebook and my sponsor.

          Only cold market sign up was due to my sponsor.

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    Here is a very enlightening video I found on youtube. The first 7 minutes discuss the potential pitfalls of Solavei:


    Like any other MLM, be sure to avoid those shiny bright objects or you will end up like a deer in the headlights.
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      OK I'll bite!

      Traffic Bot that is the funniest and most ridiculous video I think I've ever seen! He even sounds like a robot. Hahahaha!

      And it's very unprofessional the route that person takes. Obviously they feel threatened and have to come out with a video to try and keep reps away. Again very unprofessional.

      This person is griping about the most ridiculous things. So the company offers an inexpensive way to get service to start and monthly is inexpensive. Should the company take Vitel's wireless route and rip people off? Should Solavei charge $99 a month? NO FRIGGING WAY!!!! Vitel wireless charges you way too much to be a part of it. They are charging $99 for the same stuff you can get elsewhere for 75% less on average. that is straight ripoff.

      Why do they charge $99 for something they call wireless? Does that make any sense at all?

      LOL I still can't get over how some would bash others because they feel threatened.

      I Am Solavei, I am proud to be a part of Solavei, I love Solavei and it makes all the sense in the world to me.

      I have been a part of too many network marketing companies and this has been the easiest sell ever. $49/mo for unlimited text, data, and voice. Who can compete with that?

      LOL! I'm still cracking up at this unprofessional dude

      Thanks for the laugh,

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      • Profile picture of the author Lloyd Veritas
        Originally Posted by CoachManny View Post

        OK I'll bite!

        Traffic Bot that is the funniest and most ridiculous video I think I've ever seen! He even sounds like a robot. Hahahaha!

        And it's very unprofessional the route that person takes. Obviously they feel threatened and have to come out with a video to try and keep reps away. Again very unprofessional.

        This person is griping about the most ridiculous things. So the company offers an inexpensive way to get service to start and monthly is inexpensive. Should the company take Vitel's wireless route and rip people off? Should Solavei charge $99 a month? NO FRIGGING WAY!!!! Vitel wireless charges you way too much to be a part of it. They are charging $99 for the same stuff you can get elsewhere for 75% less on average. that is straight ripoff.

        Why do they charge $99 for something they call wireless? Does that make any sense at all?

        LOL I still can't get over how some would bash others because they feel threatened.

        I Am Solavei, I am proud to be a part of Solavei, I love Solavei and it makes all the sense in the world to me.

        I have been a part of too many network marketing companies and this has been the easiest sell ever. $49/mo for unlimited text, data, and voice. Who can compete with that?

        LOL! I'm still cracking up at this unprofessional dude

        Thanks for the laugh,

        Manny

        Actually, a bunch of prepaid phone services can compete with that. I have on right now that beats that. I just want to say, beware of these miraculous MLM's that tell you that they will be around 'forever.' This is not the first of it's kind. As a matter of fact, I was in a company almost exactly like this about 1.5 years ago. They had basically the save type of service and plan. Get 3 and your service is free. I paid for the expensive phone, never received, a couple weeks like the company went bust, and I never got my money back. I was one of the biggest disappointments I ever had. There have been other MLM phone service companies just like this before. They are not the first. These companies all promise that they will last forever and will basically take over the world in a few months or years. Just about all of them fall apart MUCH sooner than that, and it is usually near impossible to get any of your money back. I don't know for certain what will happen to this company, but one thing I have learned in evaluating MLM type companies is to always ask yourself, 'If I was the last person to get into this business, would I still get my money's worth or be able to do near a well as the first guy who GOT IN?' Think of it this way. If 100 people buy the same car for the same price, one after the other, until all the cars are sold out, will the last guy to buy get less of a product for the same money spent as the first guy? The obvious answer to that is no. However, with a lot of these MLM companies, the last guy to GET IN, can never get the same value for the same money spent as the first guy to GET IN. I believe in social marketing companies, but the only ones work are the ones that give everyone the same potential.
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          Originally Posted by Lloyd Veritas View Post

          Actually, a bunch of prepaid phone services can compete with that. I have on right now that beats that. I just want to say, beware of these miraculous MLM's that tell you that they will be around 'forever.' This is not the first of it's kind. As a matter of fact, I was in a company almost exactly like this about 1.5 years ago. They had basically the save type of service and plan. Get 3 and your service is free. I paid for the expensive phone, never received, a couple weeks like the company went bust, and I never got my money back. I was one of the biggest disappointments I ever had. There have been other MLM phone service companies just like this before. They are not the first. These companies all promise that they will last forever and will basically take over the world in a few months or years. Just about all of them fall apart MUCH sooner than that, and it is usually near impossible to get any of your money back. I don't know for certain what will happen to this company, but one thing I have learned in evaluating MLM type companies is to always ask yourself, 'If I was the last person to get into this business, would I still get my money's worth or be able to do near a well as the first guy who GOT IN?' Think of it this way. If 100 people buy the same car for the same price, one after the other, until all the cars are sold out, will the last guy to buy get less of a product for the same money spent as the first guy? The obvious answer to that is no. However, with a lot of these MLM companies, the last guy to GET IN, can never get the same value for the same money spent as the first guy to GET IN. I believe in social marketing companies, but the only ones work are the ones that give everyone the same potential.
          You must be talking about LYW as I almost joined them before Solavei. I was looking for a better plan to get away from AT&T.

          I can assure you...this is not your "typical" MLM. I've been in the industry for 15 years or so and I've never come across something like this.

          You say: "I have on right now that beats that.". Do you mind if you let me compare? What do you have?

          You also say, "These companies all promise that they will last forever and will basically take over the world in a few months or years."

          I can assure you...no one in Solavei is saying they will be around forever nor take over the world in a few months or years. I've been a part of Solavei before they officially launched on September 21. NO one is promising anything like that. They have one simple goal in mind. To help a million people make a $1,000. Yes that simple. And they are already helping people do that.

          You made good points about giving everyone the same opportunity. Honestly, Solavei does that. Started in USA then Puerto Rico and headed to Mexico and Canada. Think about that...more countries opening up means unlimited potential.

          And Solavei is a social commerce company that offers prepaid cellphone service. They will be delving into other things very shortly.

          I do value your opinion, but it sounds like you are basing it more along the lines of "traditional" MLM's. This is barely MLM if you were to really look hard at it. Yes, direct selling for sure but MLM is really a border line way or referring to the company. MLM's are based on compensation plans that pay high up and way down. This doesn't go like that.

          Look further my friend.

          Please let me compare the two, your Prepaid company to the service Solavei provides. I would be glad to give my honest feedback.


          Thank you for your feedback,

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          Originally Posted by Lloyd Veritas View Post

          Actually, a bunch of prepaid phone services can compete with that. I have on right now that beats that. I just want to say, beware of these miraculous MLM's that tell you that they will be around 'forever.' This is not the first of it's kind. As a matter of fact, I was in a company almost exactly like this about 1.5 years ago. They had basically the save type of service and plan. Get 3 and your service is free. I paid for the expensive phone, never received, a couple weeks like the company went bust, and I never got my money back. I was one of the biggest disappointments I ever had. There have been other MLM phone service companies just like this before. They are not the first. These companies all promise that they will last forever and will basically take over the world in a few months or years. Just about all of them fall apart MUCH sooner than that, and it is usually near impossible to get any of your money back. I don't know for certain what will happen to this company, but one thing I have learned in evaluating MLM type companies is to always ask yourself, 'If I was the last person to get into this business, would I still get my money's worth or be able to do near a well as the first guy who GOT IN?' Think of it this way. If 100 people buy the same car for the same price, one after the other, until all the cars are sold out, will the last guy to buy get less of a product for the same money spent as the first guy? The obvious answer to that is no. However, with a lot of these MLM companies, the last guy to GET IN, can never get the same value for the same money spent as the first guy to GET IN. I believe in social marketing companies, but the only ones work are the ones that give everyone the same potential.
          Sounds like you had a bad experience but you shouldn't let that influence your view of all "MLM" type phone companies that come along.

          You should judge Solavei only by its own merits.

          Solavei is not likely to go bust any time soon. Is it possible? I suppose I'd have to say anything is possible. But it's not likely if you look at who's involved and the money invested and the fact it is so far very successful... and their plan seems to be solid and sensible.

          Do you have more advantage by getting in early vs getting in "last"?

          Well not really. Because as long as the company keeps expanding, then whenever you get in you will have a lot of new potential buyers. The one advantage of getting in now in my view is that you will have more potential buyers than anyone else simply because it's a new young company. I think with ANY new product it benefits you to get in early. But as far as it being MLM, first of all it's not exactly MLM becuase for one thng, it isn't really "multi-level.

          If the business plan works then they will take over more and more of the market share of mobile service. So whenever you get in, up until the point where that huge market is saturated, you will have opportunity to sign people up. In fact if anything the buying market is smaller right now than it will be later, in my opinion. Why? Because later more people will know about it, more people will have heard good things about it and so it will be an easier sale because it will be more known so there will be less fear of trying something new and "unknown". So in that sense unlike many MultiLevelMarketing companies you have the potential to make more money quicker, later, as more people become aware of and interested in the product. I think right now few people know of it so there is somewhat of a fear of the unknown among some potential members.
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  • Profile picture of the author angshuy2k
    Originally Posted by momakmak View Post

    Im looking to get some input about Solavei.
    Have you joined?
    Have you recruited new members?
    Have you gotten paid?

    I believe I will join soon and then send out direct mailing to get the word out and hopefully some downline.

    Please do not post your Solavei affiliate links on this thread!
    This is really interesting to how everyone is getting up. I have done SEO work for various members from Solavei affiliate programe and some with their own landing page and some with their youtube video as well. It will really nice to see how everyone is getting on.

    When I did seo it was around Mid september. Hope everyone is getting enough exposure.

    I will be watching to everyones success story as an external.

    In the mean time happy to see some people are already earning.

    Best wishes to all,
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      Originally Posted by angshuy2k View Post

      This is really interesting to how everyone is getting up. I have done SEO work for various members from Solavei affiliate programe and some with their own landing page and some with their youtube video as well. It will really nice to see how everyone is getting on.

      When I did seo it was around Mid september. Hope everyone is getting enough exposure.

      I will be watching to everyones success story as an external.

      In the mean time happy to see some people are already earning.

      Best wishes to all,
      Swrajit
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      • Profile picture of the author angshuy2k
        Originally Posted by CoachManny View Post

        If I can only figure out how to get my capture page to page 1...I would be one happy camper

        Manny

        that is tough, I would purely suggest rather than waiting for it to be on page 1, if we could actually engage potential customers to your downline.
        What I meant by that is:

        tweet about your services
        facebook and share,
        use pinterest
        .............. and many more,
        because search engines crowed are getting a little bit harder day by day due to competition but if we can engage potential customers from various sources then surely you can make money.

        Best wishes,
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          Originally Posted by angshuy2k View Post

          that is tough, I would purely suggest rather than waiting for it to be on page 1, if we could actually engage potential customers to your downline.
          What I meant by that is:

          tweet about your services
          facebook and share,
          use pinterest
          .............. and many more,
          because search engines crowed are getting a little bit harder day by day due to competition but if we can engage potential customers from various sources then surely you can make money.

          Best wishes,
          Swrajit
          Those are the ways I have used that have helped my business grow. I guess FB of the 3 have helped. Using the others but no referrals from it.

          My sponsor is having great success and he is on first page of google.

          As the company is growing (lightspeed) more and more will be on first page so I will say now...you just gave some great advice!

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  • Profile picture of the author NashvilleWarrior
    Originally Posted by momakmak View Post

    Im looking to get some input about Solavei.
    Have you joined?
    Have you recruited new members?
    Have you gotten paid?

    I believe I will join soon and then send out direct mailing to get the word out and hopefully some downline.

    Please do not post your Solavei affiliate links on this thread!
    My opinion is that the main problem with this company is a thing called breakage.


    Someone in this thread said they had only 2 sign ups. Imagine how many of the 77k are just one shy of getting their trio to collect $20. If only 1% percent does not have a trio (and I think this is an extremely conservative number) then there are 7000 people from whom the company is collecting $343k per month and the company is not paying a penny in commissions.

    But let's be honest, statistics show that the average person does not recruit more than two (hmmm, wonder why the "get 3 and..." is used by a lot of companies). So if we assume a higher number of reps do not have a trio and still use a conservative number, like maybe 15%, then you are talking about 11,550 subscribers without a trio = $565,950. And this is jus the subscribers without their trio, just double that up for 2 subscribers under each one of those and you will see how much more the company is raking in every month.


    And that is just the tip of the iceberg on the comp plan. What about the fact the company does not pay you for the phone and sim card sales. I tell you, I dug deeper and ran models and it just did not add up to me. Once people that get their service realize this comp plan is not all it was touted to be they will stop trying to recruit. They may still keep the service because they have a very good price point. Which in turn results in the company having a huge customer base that markets the company for them virtually for pennys on the dollar and in return the customer gets nothing. Whoever designed their comp plan knew what they were doing.

    I know I will get a lot of heat from the "I am Solavei" crowd. Let the rebuttals begin.
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    • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
      Originally Posted by NashvilleWarrior View Post

      My opinion is that the main problem with this company is a thing called breakage.


      Someone in this thread said they had only 2 sign ups. Imagine how many of the 77k are just one shy of getting their trio to collect $20. If only 1% percent does not have a trio (and I think this is an extremely conservative number) then there are 7000 people from whom the company is collecting $343k per month and the company is not paying a penny in commissions.

      But let's be honest, statistics show that the average person does not recruit more than two (hmmm, wonder why the "get 3 and..." is used by a lot of companies). So if we assume a higher number of reps do not have a trio and still use a conservative number, like maybe 15%, then you are talking about 11,550 subscribers without a trio = $565,950. And this is jus the subscribers without their trio, just double that up for 2 subscribers under each one of those and you will see how much more the company is raking in every month.


      And that is just the tip of the iceberg on the comp plan. What about the fact the company does not pay you for the phone and sim card sales. I tell you, I dug deeper and ran models and it just did not add up to me. Once people that get their service realize this comp plan is not all it was touted to be they will stop trying to recruit. They may still keep the service because they have a very good price point. Which in turn results in the company having a huge customer base that markets the company for them virtually for pennys on the dollar and in return the customer gets nothing. Whoever designed their comp plan knew what they were doing.

      I know I will get a lot of heat from the "I am Solavei" crowd. Let the rebuttals begin.
      No heat here my friend.

      If a person only enrolls 2 people they are not going for the business side of this. They are enrolling a family and/or friend. It's that simple.

      I've been in enough network marketing companies to say...I've never seen anything so easy to promote and grow. If a person wants the business there is no reason they are not able to. Unless it's just a hobby to them. Even then over time they will find 3.

      This is too simple to only enroll 2 and no more.

      Thru the end of December the company is offering a FREE phone and FREE month of service. Seriously...if a person is not enrolling others they are not trying.

      I don't need a percent from the sale of phones. I didn't join to sell phones. That means nothing to me nor has the thought crossed my mind. 75% of people are bringing their own phone

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        Manny wrote:
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        Thru the end of December the company is offering a FREE phone and FREE month of service. Seriously...if a person is not enrolling others they are not trying.
        I think this was a mis-type. What you should have said and probably meant to say was that Solavei is offering a FREE SIM CARD and FREE MONTH OF SERVICE through December, not a free phone.
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          Originally Posted by seosoldier View Post

          Manny wrote:

          I think this was a mis-type. What you should have said and probably meant to say was that Solavei is offering a FREE SIM CARD and FREE MONTH OF SERVICE through December, not a free phone.

          NO it's true...they are offering a FREE phone

          Let me know if I can help you

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          • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
            Originally Posted by CoachManny View Post

            NO it's true...they are offering a FREE phone

            Let me know if I can help you

            Manny
            Manny, sorry I thought you were wrong on that free phone thing. I hadn't seen that free phone giveaway promotion. I just now found it at my.solavei. How long has that been out? Weird that I didn't get an email about it...
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              Originally Posted by seosoldier View Post

              Manny, sorry I thought you were wrong on that free phone thing. I hadn't seen that free phone giveaway promotion. I just now found it at my.solavei. How long has that been out? Weird that I didn't get an email about it...
              Just started last Saturday and mentioned on Staci Wallace's call.

              The only emails I got was from my team leaders.

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    • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
      Originally Posted by NashvilleWarrior View Post

      My opinion is that the main problem with this company is a thing called breakage.

      Someone in this thread said they had only 2 sign ups. Imagine how many of the 77k are just one shy of getting their trio to collect $20. If only 1% percent does not have a trio (and I think this is an extremely conservative number) then there are 7000 people from whom the company is collecting $343k per month and the company is not paying a penny in commissions.

      But let's be honest, statistics show that the average person does not recruit more than two (hmmm, wonder why the "get 3 and..." is used by a lot of companies). So if we assume a higher number of reps do not have a trio and still use a conservative number, like maybe 15%, then you are talking about 11,550 subscribers without a trio = $565,950. And this is jus the subscribers without their trio, just double that up for 2 subscribers under each one of those and you will see how much more the company is raking in every month.


      And that is just the tip of the iceberg on the comp plan. What about the fact the company does not pay you for the phone and sim card sales. I tell you, I dug deeper and ran models and it just did not add up to me. Once people that get their service realize this comp plan is not all it was touted to be they will stop trying to recruit. They may still keep the service because they have a very good price point. Which in turn results in the company having a huge customer base that markets the company for them virtually for pennys on the dollar and in return the customer gets nothing. Whoever designed their comp plan knew what they were doing.

      I know I will get a lot of heat from the "I am Solavei" crowd. Let the rebuttals begin.
      No heat from me. You are simply saying that Solavei has a good business plan and I hope you're right because the longer they are in business with this plan the longer I can get paid.

      Your point that they aren't paying us enough depends on how you look at it. I do agree they should pay us commissions on phones. Therefore I don't try to sell phones. I tell people to get a great deal at Amazon instead and if they click my link to a phone I get at least a small commission on that and anything else they buy at amazon.

      But the bottom line is this:
      We sign up with Solavei because:
      a) it provides great service at a great price for unlimited voice/text/data
      b) we figure we have a good shot at getting it free sooner or later, maybe even making some money

      That's it.

      If I can sign up some people and I make money I'm happy.
      If I don't make money I still have a great phone plan for a great price.

      I can't see why EVERYone isn't signing up! ;-D

      By the way, as for only signing up 2 people, it's not quite like that. I have signed up 4 people but one quit due to poor service in her area of Florida (small town, not big city Florida). Another doesn't count towards my Trio because he's a member who doesn't use the service, but is just a member to sell it and make some $. And so I am still stuck at two. I have one member who has 3 and one who has 1. Unless you have a lot of family and friends in general and/or a lot of family and friends who live in an area where Solavei coverage is good, it's not that easy to sell.

      As Manny said most of his sales are not "cold" sales and I am relying on cold sales because
      a) I'm not a salesman really; and
      b) I don't have ANY family in an area where Solavei has good coverage and a lot of my friends live in areas where Solavei doesn't have great coverage

      So it's not that easy. As my sites and youtube videos get on the first page of google though I am hoping for more conversions. I've tried distributing flyers and posting on (physical) bulletin boards at local colleges and that has (surprisingly to me) yielded zero results.

      The bottom line re why sales of Solavei are harder than one might (imho) think is:
      a) people are wary of it because it sounds too good to be true!
      b) people are reluctant to sign up for phone service through an individual as opposed to signing up through a store or company
      c) people have contracts
      d) people like their service
      e) most people like myself aren't good in-person salespeople
      (Note that nearly half of these reasons boil down to Solavei not yet being well known)

      I'm not making excuses I'm just calling 'em as I sees 'em.

      I do think sales will get easier as Solavei becomes more known and as I said above I think it's a great deal regardless.
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        Originally Posted by seosoldier View Post

        No heat from me. You are simply saying that Solavei has a good business plan and I hope you're right because the longer they are in business with this plan the longer I can get paid.

        Your point that they aren't paying us enough depends on how you look at it. I do agree they should pay us commissions on phones. Therefore I don't try to sell phones. I tell people to get a great deal at Amazon instead and if they click my link to a phone I get at least a small commission on that and anything else they buy at amazon.

        But the bottom line is this:
        We sign up with Solavei because:
        a) it provides great service at a great price for unlimited voice/text/data
        b) we figure we have a good shot at getting it free sooner or later, maybe even making some money

        That's it.

        If I can sign up some people and I make money I'm happy.
        If I don't make money I still have a great phone plan for a great price.

        I can't see why EVERYone isn't signing up! ;-D

        By the way, as for only signing up 2 people, it's not quite like that. I have signed up 4 people but one quit due to poor service in her area of Florida (small town, not big city Florida). Another doesn't count towards my Trio because he's a member who doesn't use the service, but is just a member to sell it and make some $. And so I am still stuck at two. I have one member who has 3 and one who has 1. Unless you have a lot of family and friends in general and/or a lot of family and friends who live in an area where Solavei coverage is good, it's not that easy to sell.

        As Manny said most of his sales are not "cold" sales and I am relying on cold sales because
        a) I'm not a salesman really; and
        b) I don't have ANY family in an area where Solavei has good coverage and a lot of my friends live in areas where Solavei doesn't have great coverage

        So it's not that easy. As my sites and youtube videos get on the first page of google though I am hoping for more conversions. I've tried distributing flyers and posting on (physical) bulletin boards at local colleges and that has (surprisingly to me) yielded zero results.

        The bottom line re why sales of Solavei are harder than one might (imho) think is:
        a) people are wary of it because it sounds too good to be true!
        b) people are reluctant to sign up for phone service through an individual as opposed to signing up through a store or company
        c) people have contracts
        d) people like their service
        e) most people like myself aren't good in-person salespeople
        (Note that nearly half of these reasons boil down to Solavei not yet being well known)

        I'm not making excuses I'm just calling 'em as I sees 'em.

        I do think sales will get easier as Solavei becomes more known and as I said above I think it's a great deal regardless.

        Most of my signups have come from cold market. Networking events, forums, Facebook, co-op leads. Picking up the phone and reaching out to people who have shown interest has been key. But yes...warm marketing has been a few signups as well but way less.

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  • I am not an MLM hater and am actually pretty successful in my own MLM team, which is where the majority of my income comes from.

    Look into the background of Solavei's ownership...not exactly sparkling.
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      Originally Posted by The General Public View Post

      I am not an MLM hater and am actually pretty successful in my own MLM team, which is where the majority of my income comes from.

      Look into the background of Solavei's ownership...not exactly sparkling.
      LOL...so in your mind because someone "says" something is true then it is?

      In your mind a person is guilty until proven innocent?

      Look deeper you will see there is no substance there.

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      • Originally Posted by CoachManny View Post

        LOL...so in your mind because someone "says" something is true then it is?

        In your mind a person is guilty until proven innocent?

        Look deeper you will see there is no substance there.

        Manny
        Coach Manny,

        Not sure where you saw that I put someone said anything.

        They pumped and dumped a stock and I don't deal with companies like that.
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      Originally Posted by The General Public View Post

      I am not an MLM hater and am actually pretty successful in my own MLM team, which is where the majority of my income comes from.

      Look into the background of Solavei's ownership...not exactly sparkling.
      Yeah, good question. I actually spoke with a guy who didn't join because his girlfriend got on Google and searched for "Solavei Scam" and found this not-so-stellar information (well, gee, what else do you expect to find when you search online for XYZ Scam?).

      Anyway, I posted the question in a private Solavei FB group and got the following responses:

      1) You can also find Walmart scam, Sears scam, JC Penny Scam...but note that all of those are from .com companies, not a single one from .gov, .org or the BBB. If you're a nationwide company, you're always going to have distractors.

      2) Direct them to RyanWuerch.com as well (this is the CEO)

      3) Solavei has 97% Net Approval Rating from JD Powers - which is higher than any other mobile service.

      4) The basic charge is that he inflated the stock & then dumped his stock. The real story is that he grew a company from nothing to a market value of over a billion dollars.

      Motricity provides internet capability for "non" smartphones, they enjoyed robust growth for several years but were decimated by the explosion of smartphones. Ryan was and is the primary stockholder in Motricity, so the idea he pumped and dumped his own company is ridiculous.

      Quote from Ryan Wuerch
      "When I left, I still owned a majority of the stock I had when the company went public in 2010. I still own much of the stock today. When Motricity’s stock dropped, it’s likely that very few could have lost more than me.

      In short, this is how Motricity’s lawyers characterize the lawsuit: “the Complaint’s defects are numerous and its merits nonexistent.’’

      ...Hope that helps :-)
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      • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
        Originally Posted by lianecarmi View Post

        Yeah, good question. I actually spoke with a guy who didn't join because his girlfriend got on Google and searched for "Solavei Scam" and found this not-so-stellar information (well, gee, what else do you expect to find when you search online for XYZ Scam?).

        Anyway, I posted the question in a private Solavei FB group and got the following responses:

        1) You can also find Walmart scam, Sears scam, JC Penny Scam...but note that all of those are from .com companies, not a single one from .gov, .org or the BBB. If you're a nationwide company, you're always going to have distractors.

        2) Direct them to RyanWuerch.com as well (this is the CEO)

        3) Solavei has 97% Net Approval Rating from JD Powers - which is higher than any other mobile service.

        4) The basic charge is that he inflated the stock & then dumped his stock. The real story is that he grew a company from nothing to a market value of over a billion dollars.

        Motricity provides internet capability for "non" smartphones, they enjoyed robust growth for several years but were decimated by the explosion of smartphones. Ryan was and is the primary stockholder in Motricity, so the idea he pumped and dumped his own company is ridiculous.

        Quote from Ryan Wuerch
        "When I left, I still owned a majority of the stock I had when the company went public in 2010. I still own much of the stock today. When Motricity’s stock dropped, it’s likely that very few could have lost more than me.

        In short, this is how Motricity’s lawyers characterize the lawsuit: “the Complaint’s defects are numerous and its merits nonexistent.’’

        ...Hope that helps :-)
        Thank you for sharing and doing your due diligence!

        You can take any reputable company in network marketing and put "scam" next to its name and get some type of negative feedback. This is the world we live in. People were saying negative things about how the company will fail before they event launched.

        Less than 3 months later they have paid out over 2.5 MILLION dollars to its Social Members (I am one of them and have over 100,000 service users. How great is this?!

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    The retail portion will be available later than April as CEO Ryan Wuerch mentioned it on the Social tonight.

    Amazing what this company has achieved in 5 months and where they are headed.

    Over 135K users and have paid out over 5.5 million. WOW!

    I've been a part of too many Network Marketing Companies in over 15 years I lost count. But my level of success with Solavei in such a short period of time has been second to none. This has been great!

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    This was announced today and it was in Yahoo! Finance:

    Solavei Introduces Nano SIM Cards for iPhone 5, Offers Unlimited Voice, Text and Data for Just $49 Per Month - Yahoo! Finance

    BELLEVUE, Wash.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--
    Solavei®, an affordable contract-free mobile service provider, announces today the availability of nano SIM cards, compatible with the iPhone 5, which expands the company’s phone compatibility to include all major smartphones. For $49 per month, members can now bring popular phones such as Apple’s iPhone 5, Samsung’s Galaxy SIII or Google’s Nexus 4 to Solavei and enjoy unlimited voice, text and data mobile service.
    “We created Solavei to make commerce less expensive for our members while allowing the flexibility to use the mobile phone they love,” said Ryan Wuerch, founder and CEO of Solavei. “Solavei is the first company to create an economic link between mobile service, social commerce and social sharing. We believe it’s important to give our members great value for unlimited mobile service, access to use their favorite mobile phone and a chance to earn recurring monthly income for sharing Solavei with their friends and family.”

    Launched September 2012, Solavei has become one of the fastest growing mobile services companies and, in just five months, has paid out more than $6.5 million to its members for sharing great mobile service with others.

    “My family is saving more than $100 each month by switching our mobile service to Solavei,” said Laura Wells, Solavei member from Allen, Texas. “By sharing Solavei with our friends, we began helping them save on their monthly mobile bills, and now we’ve ended up earning enough income to pay off credit card debt, remodel our master bathroom and add to our children's college education fund.”

    How Solavei Works

    Solavei is a cost-effective mobile phone service with no obligation to share or sign up others. Members who choose to use Solavei’s powerful social commerce platform to share the Solavei opportunity with their friends and family can use the money to offset their monthly mobile bill and even have the opportunity to generate recurring monthly income. At its simplest, the plan allows members to earn $20 per month for every three members (called a “Trio”) they or someone directly connected to them signs up for mobile service. When members have three Trios, the income generated is greater than their monthly plan cost of $49, essentially making their mobile service free. The more members in a person’s network, the more income earned.

    “As a teacher, I’m always looking for additional streams of income to get ahead and help pay bills,” said Jason Reeves, Solavei member from Atlanta. “With Solavei, I’m able to use my iPhone at a much better price than before – free. By simply sharing Solavei with my friends, I’ve positively impacted their lives and mine.”

    Solavei’s mobile phone partner, GSM Nation, offers a range of unlocked phones pre-configured with Solavei settings, including iPhones, with six month no interest, no payment financing. Members with iPhones on Solavei service in the newly re-farmed HSPA+ coverage areas will receive the highest data speeds, and unlike some other no-contract wireless providers, Solavei offers 4GB of high-speed data.

    To learn more about Solavei and signup for great mobile service, visit solavei.com.

    ABOUT SOLAVEI

    Solavei provides a contract-free, affordable mobile service to consumers. It also offers a unique opportunity for members to earn recurring monthly income by sharing the service with their friends and family. Through leveraging the power of today’s social connectivity through its unique social commerce platform, Solavei offers a highly efficient and scalable means to both consume and distribute mobile service. Former Fortune 100 telecom and retail executives and advisors lead Solavei. For more information, visit solavei.com. For the brand’s latest news and updates, find Solavei on social media at Facebook.com/Solavei and Twitter.com/Solavei.

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/solave...150000944.html
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    I've heard its a pretty cool company but I haven't tried it yet myself. My buddy says she is making a killing off of it!
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      Originally Posted by robbdogg30 View Post

      I've heard its a pretty cool company but I haven't tried it yet myself. My buddy says she is making a killing off of it!
      I'm curious how people who are doing well with Solavei are doing it.
      I make good money with another online business but with Solavei I am doing dismally.

      It seems to me the people who are doing well must be making cold calls or else they have a large network of people they know personally or peripherally who they are selling to on a one-on-one basis. Seems that having a web site - even a well ranking one - doesn't work.

      Am I right?

      Those of you who are having success what is the basic method or your success? I don't expect you to give away your secrets but I'm just curious as to how you're doing it. Person-to-person sales is not my forte and I don't have a lot of people in my network of friends/family...

      I love my Solavei service but as far as making money with it, I am not doing well at all.
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        Originally Posted by seosoldier View Post

        I'm curious how people who are doing well with Solavei are doing it.
        I make good money with another online business but with Solavei I am doing dismally.

        It seems to me the people who are doing well must be making cold calls or else they have a large network of people they know personally or peripherally who they are selling to on a one-on-one basis. Seems that having a web site - even a well ranking one - doesn't work.

        Am I right?

        Those of you who are having success what is the basic method or your success? I don't expect you to give away your secrets but I'm just curious as to how you're doing it. Person-to-person sales is not my forte and I don't have a lot of people in my network of friends/family...

        I love my Solavei service but as far as making money with it, I am not doing well at all.
        I'm not sure what your "success" expectations are but I'm very pleased with where I've come since prelaunch.

        I've been in Network Marketing for over 15 years and I've never grown as fast or had as many team members under me. So this has been great in my opinion.

        It's been a little of everything that has worked for me.

        Warm Market
        Networking events
        Facebook
        cold calls
        IboToolbox
        Forums
        SOCO system has helped me when I put leads into my system

        It has all added up to growth.

        Let me know if I can answer any questions for you.

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          Hi Manny, what I mean by not having success is that I've been in since before the launch, I've got youtube vids on p1 of youtube and p1 of google for certain keywords, even web sites on p1 for some good keywords, yet I've only got 5 people total in my network!

          I've worked very hard at promoting my sites and youtubes yet none of it is leading to members signing up!

          My experience has been the opposite of yours - this has been the worst network marketing co. I've been involved with! I am not blaming Solavei, I'm just thinking it's probably not a good match for me personally, for some odd reason.

          Could you expand on these:

          Warm Market - what does that mean exactly? People you know personally?
          Networking events - care to share what type?
          Facebook - just having a page or posting on tons of others' pages, or advertising your page/web site?
          cold calls - Ick, this I won't do. Not my style.
          IboToolbox - not sure what this is, I'll have to look it up.
          Forums - Maybe I can try this...
          SOCO system has helped me when I put leads into my system - what is that? Do you mean the Solavei back office system? Do you buy leads or ?

          I understand you may not want to give away too many of your secrets but anything you can share might help me find some success with Solavei. So far I love the service but it's not working out for me like I hoped in terms of getting people to sign up. By the way, I'm not the only one this is true for, I'm hearing this a lot. I know it's not cool to say that, perhaps but I am being honest here. I've already admitted that the problem may be one of different styles for different people. My sponsor has quit promoting it already and people under me are also having difficulty and a couple have quit.

          I do think it has a lot to do with needing to do more person-to-person type sales as opposed to building and promoting web sites/pages/youtubes which is the method I have used to make my other network marketing business a big success.
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          • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
            Originally Posted by seosoldier View Post

            Hi Manny, what I mean by not having success is that I've been in since before the launch, I've got youtube vids on p1 of youtube and p1 of google for certain keywords, even web sites on p1 for some good keywords, yet I've only got 5 people total in my network!

            I've worked very hard at promoting my sites and youtubes yet none of it is leading to members signing up!

            My experience has been the opposite of yours - this has been the worst network marketing co. I've been involved with! I am not blaming Solavei, I'm just thinking it's probably not a good match for me personally, for some odd reason.

            Could you expand on these:

            Warm Market - what does that mean exactly? People you know personally?

            Warm market being family and friends and people who know me by name when I call them or see them. THIS HAS BEEN WHERE PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING THEIR MOST SUCCESS.

            Networking events - care to share what type?
            BNI, Local networking events with other business owners, etc.

            Facebook - just having a page or posting on tons of others' pages, or advertising your page/web site?

            I have slowed down on this part to focus on my fan page but my success has been through my personal page just making posts and sharing videos. Had one person from a previous company we were both in join. Had another person who saw I liked the Solavei Fanpage and since he was on T-Mobile prepaid it only made sense for him and he preferred to join with someone he semi knew. Most recent was someone else who I never had a conversation with other then when he first asked about Solavei. If you market..they will come.
            cold calls - Ick, this I won't do. Not my style.

            Not for the lighthearted for sure. Many can't stand rejection. I don't like it either but have learned to have thick skin in this business. I don't recommend this route. It is not for everyone. When helping my team...this is the last thing I recommend. It truly is not for the lighthearted.

            IboToolbox - not sure what this is, I'll have to look it up.

            If you see any of my ibourl links that will lead u to it.
            Forums - Maybe I can try this...
            SOCO system has helped me when I put leads into my system - what is that? Do you mean the Solavei back office system? Do you buy leads or ?

            Back to calling leads...I've managed to get hundreds of leads and I put them into my Social Commerce system. It is for Solavei members but not by Solavei themselves. They have come out with a similar system just a couple of days ago. You might have heard of it. I'm sticking with the SOCO system. It's helped me convert and they offer a way to get the system for free when you refer 3. The new Solavei system does not offer the FREE option.

            I understand you may not want to give away too many of your secrets but anything you can share might help me find some success with Solavei. So far I love the service but it's not working out for me like I hoped in terms of getting people to sign up. By the way, I'm not the only one this is true for,
            Truth is my friend, this is with any company. There are some that won't do the necessary steps to be successful. For example, actually picking up the phone and calling their friends and family. Many won't take this route. Some will, some won't, so what...NEXT! This is not for everyone. I understand that but the service is for most for sure if at the minimum.

            I'm hearing this a lot. I know it's not cool to say that, perhaps but I am being honest here. I've already admitted that the problem may be one of different styles for different people. My sponsor has quit promoting it already and people under me are also having difficulty and a couple have quit.

            I do think it has a lot to do with needing to do more person-to-person type sales as opposed to building and promoting web sites/pages/youtubes which is the method I have used to make my other network marketing business a big success.
            All the methods works but nothing happens overnight. There is a continued effort needed. If people are not picking up the phone and actually making calls then they are going to struggle. Some who are already at the Staci Wallace and Tom McMurrain stage came in with a huge list and others. Most people are simply growing by talking to their warm market and getting into their warm market. This makes so much sense.

            Good luck,

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            • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
              Originally Posted by CoachManny View Post

              All the methods works but nothing happens overnight. There is a continued effort needed. If people are not picking up the phone and actually making calls then they are going to struggle. Some who are already at the Staci Wallace and Tom McMurrain stage came in with a huge list and others. Most people are simply growing by talking to their warm market and getting into their warm market. This makes so much sense.

              Good luck,

              Manny
              Manny, I have not refused to make any calls, I just haven't had anyone respond to my various Solavei pages with a phone number to call them back at!

              I have gotten 2 people to sign up via my web sites/youtube channel, and in one case that took several emails and in the other they just signed up from my link.

              But the problem is I'm not getting "bites" from my 4 or so web sites and several youtubes most of which have at least some p1 google/youtube exposure.

              Again not to down Solavei but my sense of it is that most of the people doing really well have plugged into some kind of list they already had going. And most who are doing "okay" have a lot of friends and/or family members to present it to.

              And of the 4-5 people I have been involved with who do not have the above, none are doing very well with it. I'm getting $20/month from my one trio; I had one person drop out, my down line has had 2 people drop out, and 2 of the people I have under me have not gotten any signups at all.

              Manny, you wrote:
              "For me and what has led to my growth:

              BNI Network meetings
              Forum Posting (like here)
              Cold Leads (people who have requested info about starting a business from home)
              IBOToolbox (Lots of organic traffic)
              Facebook
              Flyers (Which led to 1 warm market signup)
              Family (Brother and wife)
              blogs"

              When you say BNI do you mean you go out to local meetings and press the flesh and meet people and tell them about the Solavei opportunity? (ie; handing out business cards and giving a quick sales pitch)

              Where do you get the cold leads re home business (if it's not a trade secret)? Little sniper sites about making money from home or ? (I see that one of our well known Team Unlimited people does have such a site about making money online and it features a squeeze page that leads people then to his Solavei sign up page). I have been thinking about doing something like this.

              When you say you use Facebook, how do you use it? Do you post on all your "friends'" walls regularly, or just post on your own? Do you use Facebook ads that go to your facebook page or to a web site? I have never figured out how to get any profit from Facebook though I know many do...

              I tried flyers - put up dozens of them at local colleges and other places and did not get one referral from that.

              Thanks for the recommendation of IBOtoolbox, I had not heard of that. Just signed up, sounds interesting.

              I have not given up on Solavei, I am just at a point where I realize I have to try something(s) different because what I've been doing - that worked for my other business - is not working for this one.
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              • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
                Originally Posted by seosoldier View Post

                Manny, I have not refused to make any calls, I just haven't had anyone respond to my various Solavei pages with a phone number to call them back at!

                I have gotten 2 people to sign up via my web sites/youtube channel, and in one case that took several emails and in the other they just signed up from my link.

                But the problem is I'm not getting "bites" from my 4 or so web sites and several youtubes most of which have at least some p1 google/youtube exposure.

                Again not to down Solavei but my sense of it is that most of the people doing really well have plugged into some kind of list they already had going. And most who are doing "okay" have a lot of friends and/or family members to present it to.

                And of the 4-5 people I have been involved with who do not have the above, none are doing very well with it. I'm getting $20/month from my one trio; I had one person drop out, my down line has had 2 people drop out, and 2 of the people I have under me have not gotten any signups at all.

                Manny, you wrote:
                "For me and what has led to my growth:

                BNI Network meetings
                Forum Posting (like here)
                Cold Leads (people who have requested info about starting a business from home)
                IBOToolbox (Lots of organic traffic)
                Facebook
                Flyers (Which led to 1 warm market signup)
                Family (Brother and wife)
                blogs"

                When you say BNI do you mean you go out to local meetings and press the flesh and meet people and tell them about the Solavei opportunity? (ie; handing out business cards and giving a quick sales pitch)
                Basically, yes! Business Networking International is exactly that belly to belly meeting people. Not necessarily "handing" out business cards to people but when I get there all guests put a bunch of cards in a tray that everyone has access to when it goes around the room. Yes a "sales" pitch is involved. Like a 30 second commercial. Also the members set up one on one's to get to know one another and how they can help refer people to one another. I got 3 sign up from these meetings and 1 of them have a trio as well. Thanks to BNI (about 3-4 meetings as a guest) I have 6 people in my network.

                Where do you get the cold leads re home business (if it's not a trade secret)?
                At this time I prefer not to say as I try to keep this an incentive when someone signs up for the SOCO site under me. Sorry! I will say that I have been able to get a hold of 700 leads at no charge and put them into the soco system and let the emails weed out the people I should call that raise their hand and show interest in Solavei

                Little sniper sites about making money from home or ? (I see that one of our well known Team Unlimited people does have such a site about making money online and it features a squeeze page that leads people then to his Solavei sign up page). I have been thinking about doing something like this.
                My guess is that you are referring to my sponsor. I believe he developed the SOCO system and the YourUnlimitedMobile system that is available only to Team Unlimited members. Solavei's free version of marketing system is the exact same as the YUM site basically.


                When you say you use Facebook, how do you use it? Do you post on all your "friends'" walls regularly, or just post on your own? Do you use Facebook ads that go to your facebook page or to a web site? I have never figured out how to get any profit from Facebook though I know many do...
                I never post on friends wall. IMO that is unethical and I wouldn't dream of doing that and upsetting my friends. What I do do is post on my fanpage and share on my personal page and that attracts attention.

                Here is a little plan that I'm working as we speak that I got off of Tom's page. He believes in outsourcing once your budget is open to it:

                *Set up swipe file and bitly links (I use ibourl links instead)
                *15 FB posts/tweets a day
                *Post one blog a day
                *Birthday Notices/wishes
                *20 FB comments per day
                *10-15 Private messages per day
                *Friend request replies
                *Join 50 Groups
                *Create one private group per day

                I'm not doing this to the T just yet but I'm implementing this to my plan of action.


                I tried flyers - put up dozens of them at local colleges and other places and did not get one referral from that.
                Flyers is something that has to be consistent and done regularly. My wife got 100 flyers out and we got 1 response who ended up signing up but not under me.

                Thanks for the recommendation of IBOtoolbox, I had not heard of that. Just signed up, sounds interesting.

                I have not given up on Solavei, I am just at a point where I realize I have to try something(s) different because what I've been doing - that worked for my other business - is not working for this one.
                Hope this helps,

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                Originally Posted by seosoldier View Post

                When you say you use Facebook, how do you use it? Do you post on all your "friends'" walls regularly, or just post on your own? Do you use Facebook ads that go to your facebook page or to a web site? I have never figured out how to get any profit from Facebook though I know many do...
                Wanted to follow up on this again as I just got another inquiry asking about Solavei.

                If you look at my personal page you will see the few things I have posted and it led to a racquetball buddy asking about Solavei.

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      • Profile picture of the author lianecarmi
        Originally Posted by seosoldier View Post

        I'm curious how people who are doing well with Solavei are doing it.
        I make good money with another online business but with Solavei I am doing dismally.

        It seems to me the people who are doing well must be making cold calls or else they have a large network of people they know personally or peripherally who they are selling to on a one-on-one basis. Seems that having a web site - even a well ranking one - doesn't work.

        Am I right?

        Those of you who are having success what is the basic method or your success? I don't expect you to give away your secrets but I'm just curious as to how you're doing it. Person-to-person sales is not my forte and I don't have a lot of people in my network of friends/family...

        I love my Solavei service but as far as making money with it, I am not doing well at all.
        Hi seosoldier,

        I think if you look at the top performers in Solavei (I mean the ones at Social Director and Social Executive levels), you'll see that most of them have one of two things going on -

        A) They either have a system other people can plug into (complete with training webinars / calls), or

        B) They have other people on their team who have a system.

        The thing about systems is that they make it easy for people to recruit. With a system, you don't have to know anything to be able to plug in and make sales. Systems also make it possible for people with no marketing experience to succeed and build your team for you.

        Also, if you examine the compensation plan - especially the 40% rule - you'll see that all you really need are 3 big builders under you. In other words, person X could bring in exactly 3 people (1 trio) into Solavei, and if those 3 people have huge lists or large networks (or a system that builds huge lists and large networks, or a person under THEM that builds a large network), person X would not need to do much else to get to Social Executive.

        How do you find 3 big builders?

        By speaking to hundreds, even thousands of people. Or speaking to a smaller number of highly qualified people - those who you already know have the list, the capabilities or the connections. In other words, by putting way more than 3 people on your team.

        Or, if you never pick up the phone, by getting so many leads into your system that eventually, sooner or later, someone big finds you and joins.

        The more people you bring into your network, the higher your chances of them, or someone they bring in having a connection that explodes your network. It's a numbers game. Phone time reduces the numbers you need up front.

        Systems, by the way, allow you to make warm calls rather than cold calls.
        You talk to someone who's already expressed some interest in your program (i.e., Solavei) by opting in - and then has had a chance to review information (videos, PDFs, etc.) so that you can have an intelligent conversation with them (or, rather, a scripted conversation that positions you).

        (As an aside, this is different from your warm market, which is your friends & family - people you know personally).

        But let's get to the real question here, which is this: how can YOU make those top ranked sites / videos work for you? Without having seen your videos or websites, I can't say much - I can only ask questions.

        1) You're obviously good at SEO. Where do you send people from your sites? What information are you giving them?

        2) Are you building a list / getting leads?

        3) Do you have a system set up OR have you plugged into a system that does the work of following up for you? If you're generating a good number of leads via SEO, you could build your own system that offers leads to those who join. That would probably get you a good number of very interested prospects.

        4) You may hate making phone calls, but if you get someone on your team who loves making calls, could you work together - you get the leads, they make the calls? Could someone in your upline help?

        5) Are you willing to stretch beyond your comfort zone - to learn & practice a new skill (such as talking on the phone)?

        I guess what I'm saying is, play to your strengths. Use what you have, and get other people / systems to do the stuff you don't want to do. And if you're really keen on succeeding, stretch beyond your comfort zone.

        Finally, to answer the question you posted personally, I'm having success with my warm market (family/friends), my list (people I've helped before), my business connections (coming from mobile marketing here), using an automated system, and getting leads through a variety of channels (mobile marketing, magazine ads, and more).

        The basic method I use is this:

        1) Share Solavei (i.e., let people know it exists). Depending on the keywords you're ranking for, you may already be doing this.

        2) Follow up with those who are interested by giving them more information (I do this via automation - using a system).

        3) Call people up after they've had a chance to review the information & sign them up.

        Have I had people sign up without talking to them first? Sure. But I would have also lost many awesome team members had I not picked up the phone and called.

        (As an aside, it's not a matter of selling on the phone. It's a matter of seeing how you can help someone achieve their goals).

        I think your SEO skills are a huge asset. A little tweaking & a little bit of stretching out of your comfort zone would probably turn things around for you in a big way.



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          Originally Posted by lianecarmi View Post

          Hi seosoldier,

          I think if you look at the top performers in Solavei (I mean the ones at Social Director and Social Executive levels), you'll see that most of them have one of two things going on -

          A) They either have a system other people can plug into (complete with training webinars / calls), or

          B) They have other people on their team who have a system.

          The thing about systems is that they make it easy for people to recruit. With a system, you don't have to know anything to be able to plug in and make sales. Systems also make it possible for people with no marketing experience to succeed and build your team for you.

          Also, if you examine the compensation plan - especially the 40% rule - you'll see that all you really need are 3 big builders under you. In other words, person X could bring in exactly 3 people (1 trio) into Solavei, and if those 3 people have huge lists or large networks (or a system that builds huge lists and large networks, or a person under THEM that builds a large network), person X would not need to do much else to get to Social Executive.

          How do you find 3 big builders?

          By speaking to hundreds, even thousands of people. Or speaking to a smaller number of highly qualified people - those who you already know have the list, the capabilities or the connections. In other words, by putting way more than 3 people on your team.

          Or, if you never pick up the phone, by getting so many leads into your system that eventually, sooner or later, someone big finds you and joins.

          The more people you bring into your network, the higher your chances of them, or someone they bring in having a connection that explodes your network. It's a numbers game. Phone time reduces the numbers you need up front.

          Systems, by the way, allow you to make warm calls rather than cold calls.
          You talk to someone who's already expressed some interest in your program (i.e., Solavei) by opting in - and then has had a chance to review information (videos, PDFs, etc.) so that you can have an intelligent conversation with them (or, rather, a scripted conversation that positions you).

          (As an aside, this is different from your warm market, which is your friends & family - people you know personally).

          But let's get to the real question here, which is this: how can YOU make those top ranked sites / videos work for you? Without having seen your videos or websites, I can't say much - I can only ask questions.

          1) You're obviously good at SEO. Where do you send people from your sites? What information are you giving them?

          2) Are you building a list / getting leads?

          3) Do you have a system set up OR have you plugged into a system that does the work of following up for you? If you're generating a good number of leads via SEO, you could build your own system that offers leads to those who join. That would probably get you a good number of very interested prospects.

          4) You may hate making phone calls, but if you get someone on your team who loves making calls, could you work together - you get the leads, they make the calls? Could someone in your upline help?

          5) Are you willing to stretch beyond your comfort zone - to learn & practice a new skill (such as talking on the phone)?

          I guess what I'm saying is, play to your strengths. Use what you have, and get other people / systems to do the stuff you don't want to do. And if you're really keen on succeeding, stretch beyond your comfort zone.

          Finally, to answer the question you posted personally, I'm having success with my warm market (family/friends), my list (people I've helped before), my business connections (coming from mobile marketing here), using an automated system, and getting leads through a variety of channels (mobile marketing, magazine ads, and more).

          The basic method I use is this:

          1) Share Solavei (i.e., let people know it exists). Depending on the keywords you're ranking for, you may already be doing this.

          2) Follow up with those who are interested by giving them more information (I do this via automation - using a system).

          3) Call people up after they've had a chance to review the information & sign them up.

          Have I had people sign up without talking to them first? Sure. But I would have also lost many awesome team members had I not picked up the phone and called.

          (As an aside, it's not a matter of selling on the phone. It's a matter of seeing how you can help someone achieve their goals).

          I think your SEO skills are a huge asset. A little tweaking & a little bit of stretching out of your comfort zone would probably turn things around for you in a big way.



          Does that help?
          Great post!

          You hit the nail on the head on a lot of it.

          There are people with less people enrolled on their first level than me but making more money because they signed up someone who does have that list or have some name recognition.

          At the same time, my business is continuously growing and my income has been going up every month. I am consistently doing something every day that helps my business grow.

          This is a no brainer in a lot of ways but is it for everyone? Not the business portion but definitely the service :-)

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          Thanks for that info and comments, lianecarmi .

          I do have a system, I'm in the same system as Manny, but I guess I haven't immersed myself in the system, for one thing, and for another I think a lot of what you talk about my needing to do is probably not in my comfort zone.

          I could either try to stretch outside my comfort zone or I can accept that maybe this is not my style and take my skills to other IM areas that are more of a match.
          This is something I need to think about.

          My main problem is that my sites are not leading to inquiries. I have resisted using the Squeeze Page to ask for telephone numbers because I didn't think it would work and I hate asking for phone numbers (have been thinking about asking for email addys but not phone numbers).

          Calling even warm leads is not really my style, I'm just not a phone guy, I'm an email/internet guy.

          You make some good points about how I could hire others or work with others perhaps. Maybe what I'll do is see if I can get some phone numbers with a squeeze page and then try to talk myself into calling them. If that is too uncomfortable for me I have a friend under me in Solavei who could make the calls, or I could maybe pay someone else to do it.

          You've given me a lot to think about in terms of if I want to continue and work a system or if I would rather work my own way in another aspect of IM.
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            Originally Posted by seosoldier View Post

            Thanks for that info and comments, lianecarmi .

            I do have a system, I'm in the same system as Manny, but I guess I haven't immersed myself in the system, for one thing, and for another I think a lot of what you talk about my needing to do is probably not in my comfort zone.

            I could either try to stretch outside my comfort zone or I can accept that maybe this is not my style and take my skills to other IM areas that are more of a match.
            This is something I need to think about.

            My main problem is that my sites are not leading to inquiries. I have resisted using the Squeeze Page to ask for telephone numbers because I didn't think it would work and I hate asking for phone numbers (have been thinking about asking for email addys but not phone numbers).

            Calling even warm leads is not really my style, I'm just not a phone guy, I'm an email/internet guy.

            You make some good points about how I could hire others or work with others perhaps. Maybe what I'll do is see if I can get some phone numbers with a squeeze page and then try to talk myself into calling them. If that is too uncomfortable for me I have a friend under me in Solavei who could make the calls, or I could maybe pay someone else to do it.

            You've given me a lot to think about in terms of if I want to continue and work a system or if I would rather work my own way in another aspect of IM.
            You know what works for me when it comes to the SOCO system?

            I have inserted about 700 leads (cold market) and it didn't cost me a thing.

            When I get a prospect who watches a video for longer than a minute or has opened email multiple times I text them asking if it's a good time to talk.

            Maybe you can take this approach. It has worked for me.

            That way you are getting permission to call them.

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        • Profile picture of the author lianecarmi
          Originally Posted by momakmak View Post


          I believe a squeeze page system would probably be the best. I would like to know people are interested and could keep them on a mail list for information as it comes. Anyone of you have a list system?

          Thanks.
          Solavei's "sharesolavei" system has an autoresponder built in. So does the system I use, which I won't list here because I can't list it without giving an affiliate link.

          Solavei's autoresponder is very non-MLMish. Mine is very much MLMish and business oriented. Not sure how the autoresponder with SOCO is. Maybe Manny could let us know?

          Originally Posted by momakmak View Post

          Social commerce builder is probably exactly what I was looking for. I am just very weary of mlm selling because like seosoldier, I seem to be terrible at cold sales.
          I think Manny already mentioned - it's really not cold calling when they've been warmed up to the product and are seeking information from you. But...anyway, that's what there are scripts for. Todd Falcone has an awesome set of scripts for network marketing, but it still takes guts to initially pick up the phone and call. After a while, it becomes easy.

          As an aside, I've pretty much sucked at network marketing until now. That's because I think the product is awesome - in terms of saving money every month - and I'm into technology anyway. So...I feel comfortable sharing this company with friends & family...which means I feel confident sharing it with complete strangers. I've never felt that about other companies before - which is why I "hid" behind my computer and hardly ever made calls.

          Actually, if you look at Solavei's sales materials (videos), you'll notice they don't really sound like other network marketing companies. They just kind of fell into that category because of the compensation plan they put together.

          Originally Posted by lianecarmi View Post

          Hi seosoldier,



          Also, if you examine the compensation plan - especially the 40% rule - you'll see that all you really need are 3 big builders under you. In other words, person X could bring in exactly 3 people (1 trio) into Solavei, and if those 3 people have huge lists or large networks (or a system that builds huge lists and large networks, or a person under THEM that builds a large network), person X would not need to do much else to get to Social Executive.
          Just wanted to quickly respond to my previous comment as this is no longer true. There's a recent change to the comp plan that does require a person to have more trios in their direct personal network in order to achieve leadership roles, and in order to reach "thousandaire" level.

          Hope that helps!
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            Originally Posted by lianecarmi View Post

            Solavei's "sharesolavei" system has an autoresponder built in. So does the system I use, which I won't list here because I can't list it without giving an affiliate link.

            Solavei's autoresponder is very non-MLMish. Mine is very much MLMish and business oriented. Not sure how the autoresponder with SOCO is. Maybe Manny could let us know?
            SOCO autoresponder is specifically designed with information about the social commerce side of Solavei and the service and the Trios and some of the well known people who have joined like Stephen Baldwin and American Idol Finalist and Pro Race car driver. Basically information to peak their interest and hits all aspects of it.

            I think Manny already mentioned - it's really not cold calling when they've been warmed up to the product and are seeking information from you. But...anyway, that's what there are scripts for. Todd Falcone has an awesome set of scripts for network marketing, but it still takes guts to initially pick up the phone and call. After a while, it becomes easy.

            As an aside, I've pretty much sucked at network marketing until now. That's because I think the product is awesome - in terms of saving money every month - and I'm into technology anyway. So...I feel comfortable sharing this company with friends & family...which means I feel confident sharing it with complete strangers. I've never felt that about other companies before - which is why I "hid" behind my computer and hardly ever made calls.

            Actually, if you look at Solavei's sales materials (videos), you'll notice they don't really sound like other network marketing companies. They just kind of fell into that category because of the compensation plan they put together.



            Just wanted to quickly respond to my previous comment as this is no longer true. There's a recent change to the comp plan that does require a person to have more trios in their direct personal network in order to achieve leadership roles, and in order to reach "thousandaire" level.

            Hope that helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author momakmak
    What is the SOCO system?

    I have still not joined this service as I love my t-mobile, but now I am tempted after visiting my thread and seeing all the response.

    I believe a squeeze page system would probably be the best. I would like to know people are interested and could keep them on a mail list for information as it comes. Anyone of you have a list system?

    Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
      Originally Posted by momakmak View Post

      What is the SOCO system?

      I have still not joined this service as I love my t-mobile, but now I am tempted after visiting my thread and seeing all the response.

      I believe a squeeze page system would probably be the best. I would like to know people are interested and could keep them on a mail list for information as it comes. Anyone of you have a list system?

      Thanks.
      Hi Momakmak,

      Not sure what you mean by List system? Do you mean a way to grow your list?

      You mentioned loving T-Mobile. Solavei is T-Mobile basically with out the name and Solavei offers more benefits to it's users like the option of getting free service.

      The SOCO system is called Social Commerce system.

      Solavei is a Social Commerce company that offers different products and uses the Social commerce way to get the word out. As you know their initial product is the phone service but here shortly they are adding Solavei retail where you will shop at places like Starbucks, Walgreens, Walmart, etc and get cash back on your Solavei debit card. Basically acting like a discount but instead of discount upfront you get cash back on your debit card.

      The SOCO system is a tool basically to help get people information about Solavei.

      Has landing pages, marketing site, autoresponder with Solavei specific emails and other stuff.

      If you go to socialcommercebuilder.com (this is not an affiliate link just information) you can get more information.

      Solavei does offer a system that is very similar but the main difference I like is that when you refer 3 to the SOCO system it is then free but the Solavei system is same monthly $19.95 price but no option to get it free.

      Hope this helps,

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  • Profile picture of the author momakmak
    Social commerce builder is probably exactly what I was looking for. I am just very weary of mlm selling because like seosoldier, I seem to be terrible at cold sales.

    Have any of you tried postcard mailing?

    Feed back would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
      Originally Posted by momakmak View Post

      Social commerce builder is probably exactly what I was looking for. I am just very weary of mlm selling because like seosoldier, I seem to be terrible at cold sales.

      Have any of you tried postcard mailing?

      Feed back would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
      It's not about "cold sales" per say. It's about building relationship and gaining their trust. At the cold stage they don't join you. They have to know you care about them and what they want and need before they join you.

      Most of my sign ups started in the "cold market". Very few of them are warm market.

      The thing about network marketing/mlm is that if you are not finding people to actually talk to (meaning pick up the phone and call them) it's not usual they will sign up. I have had 1 person sign up without contacting me and I still don't know which of my marketing efforts helped them find me. Everyone else I had a conversation with either by phone or email before they sign up.

      For me and what has led to my growth:

      BNI Network meetings
      Forum Posting (like here)
      Cold Leads (people who have requested info about starting a business from home)
      IBOToolbox (Lots of organic traffic)
      Facebook
      Flyers (Which led to 1 warm market signup)
      Family (Brother and wife)
      blogs


      I do something every single day. Just got back from getting 50 business cards out there.

      For most people their immediate success has come from warm market (friends and family).

      Due to many changes in my life and the many number of different network marketing companies I have been a part of in the past I really don't approach my family and friends.

      The difference between Solavei and the other companies that I have been a part of is that there is no autoship needed every month. It's a product that EVERYONE uses. Retention is probably the best in the industry simply because it's cellphone service and every needs it. MLM/NM average of people promoting a company generally don't enroll more than 2. With Solavei we are blowing that number out of the window. Over 160K people in 6 months is amazing growth and now we are considered the fastest growing MVNO (Mobile Virtual Network Operator) in HISTORY. Examples of MVNO that are known is Boost Mobile (Sprint), Straight Talk (ATT/T-Mobile), Tracfone/Net 10 and Solavei has grown faster than all of them.

      If a person is wanting to make an extra income Solavei is a great option.

      Even just signing up a family member or so and using your SS helps you get your bill down.

      Some just join to refer enough people to get free phone service.

      Not trying to scare you off trying to be open to what to expect in order to grow a business.

      Think about this: Let's say it takes you two years with moderate effort...like a few hours a week of effort and you enroll 54 people by yourself. At the minimum you would make $1360/mo and if you never did another thing after that and none of those 54 people ever did anything as a business and just used the service you would make that much every single month for as long as they keep the service.

      Let's also say that you only refer 15 people yourself and out of those 15 people some enroll 39 people. That will still pay you a minimum of $1000 a month every month as long as they keep their service. Think about this....it wouldn't stop there as many of them will still keep growing.

      At the end of the day, this really shouldn't be that hard.

      From my experience with Solavei...it really hasn't been hard but I'm not a thousandaire yet but I am almost there :-)

      In reference to postcard mailing I haven't tried that yet so I can't give personal experience in that department.

      Hope this helps,

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  • Profile picture of the author thewealthapostle
    Originally Posted by momakmak View Post

    Im looking to get some input about Solavei.
    Have you joined?
    Have you recruited new members?
    Have you gotten paid?

    I believe I will join soon and then send out direct mailing to get the word out and hopefully some downline.

    Please do not post your Solavei affiliate links on this thread!
    I beleive the concept itself WORKS. I also believe your best shot for success at solavei may involve lots of OFFLINE marketing as opposed to purely online (truth is most succcessful MLMs had offline marketng in it regardless of what anyone says. MLM is totally different from the affiliate sales and you cant really build any lasting downline exclusively online without some personal contact.).

    Also, Since the value of the product is in being able to call people free, and most of the people you call are those close to you (principally family, friends, neighbors and co-workers etc), you will need to get them involved. If you get a modern approach system to exploring those markets you can make a killing on this. If Now, you probably wont make it.

    I have not personally done Solavei but i did read about it a lot and was so excited by the concept itself that I got an inspiration to actually start my own local Nigerian MLM based on the similar model, using a local phone provider in Nigeria.- Airtel

    I started Talking Millionaires Network just in FEB 2013 n Nigeria [www.talkingmilllionaires.net.] based on PART of the solavei concept, without selling hardware, for a local phone company in Nigeria and the idea went crazy in less than 2 months. In less than 2 months we have had more than 600 paid subscribers. So as an entrepreneur who started a new MLM based on the concept in Africa, I know the concept WORKS.

    I also need to point out that the concept of having UNLIMITED PHONE MINUTES on the Talking mIllionaires Network was very attractive in a place like Nigeria where it still cost about 50 cents per minute for regular calls. So people still got BIG value from using the phone lines with unlimited calling even if they did not really make much with recruitments. So my model may be different in that regard since just free minutes does not hold any exceptional value for the price in places like U.S or U.K anymore where for $49 on cricket, you get unlimited everything including emails, texts etc...

    Nevertheless, I still will recommend you try Solavei anyway since they have other incentives. That is always better than wondering if it would work! You can always cancel after a few months if its not working for you
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      Originally Posted by thewealthapostle View Post

      While I dont very much care for the owners of solavei based on research, I beleive the concept itself WORKS. I also believe your best shot for success at solavei may involve lots of OFFLINE marketing as opposed to purely online (truth is most succcessful MLMs had offline marketng in it regardless of what anyone says. MLM is totally different from the affiliate sales and you cant really build any lasting downline exclusively online without some personal contact.).

      Also, Since the value of the product is in being able to call people free, and most of the people you call are those close to you (principally family, friends, neighbors and co-workers etc), you will need to get them involved. If you get a modern approach system to exploring those markets you can make a killing on this. If Now, you probably wont make it.

      I have not personally done Solavei but i did read about it a lot and was so excited by the concept itself that I got an inspiration to actually start my own local Nigerian MLM based on the similar model, using a local phone provider in Nigeria.- Airtel

      I started Talking Millionaires Network just in FEB 2013 n Nigeria [www.talkingmilllionaires.net.] based on PART of the solavei concept, without selling hardware, for a local phone company in Nigeria and the idea went crazy in less than 2 months. In less than 2 months we have had more than 600 paid subscribers. So as an entrepreneur who started a new MLM based on the concept in Africa, I know the concept WORKS though I cant speak for the owners of Solavei. I dont know them much about them though google search showed some bad stuff about their history.

      I also need to point out that the concept of having UNLIMITED PHONE MINUTES on the Talking mIllionaires Network was very attractive in a place like Nigeria where it still cost about 50 cents per minute for regular calls. So people still got BIG value from using the phone lines with unlimited calling even if they did not really make much with recruitments. So my model may be different in that regard since just free minutes does not hold any exceptional value for the price in places like U.S or U.K anymore where for $49 on cricket, you get unlimited everything including emails, texts etc...

      Nevertheless, I still will recommend you try Solavei anyway since they have other incentives. That is always better than wondering if it would work! You can always cancel after a few months if its not working for you
      Good post!

      One question...you read some negative stuff on the owners?

      I am very familiar with the lawsuit that will go no-where because there is no validity behind those claims and no one lost more money than the Solavei founder.

      Can you share with me what you are referring to about the negative stuff on the "owner(s)"?

      Please and thank you,

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      • Profile picture of the author thewealthapostle
        Originally Posted by CoachManny View Post

        Good post!

        One question...you read some negative stuff on the owners?

        I am very familiar with the lawsuit that will go no-where because there is no validity behind those claims and no one lost more money than the Solavei founder.

        Can you share with me what you are referring to about the negative stuff on the "owner(s)"?

        Please and thank you,

        Manny
        Hey CoachManny, I dont think the idea is to get into talking about the negatives stories of the owners, if any...Thats not my style, people can google for themselves on anything they want to do. I will probably edit t my post to take that part out so peopel do not focus on the owners but on the prodcut or ocmpany itself. i beleive the discussion should center on benefits or othersiwe of Solavie. Thank you
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          Originally Posted by thewealthapostle View Post

          I will probably edit t my post to take that part out so peopel do not focus on the owners but on the prodcut or ocmpany itself. i beleive the discussion should center on benefits or othersiwe of Solavie. Thank you
          Yes I would greatly appreciate that.

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    • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
      Originally Posted by thewealthapostle View Post

      I beleive the concept itself WORKS. I also believe your best shot for success at solavei may involve lots of OFFLINE marketing as opposed to purely online (truth is most succcessful MLMs had offline marketng in it regardless of what anyone says. MLM is totally different from the affiliate sales and you cant really build any lasting downline exclusively online without some personal contact.). [edit]
      I am in an MLM where I do zero offline marketing and I'm making $1000-1500/month with it. I do think this is rare, as I also do not have a downline! I should, but don't as of yet.

      I think what you wrote above is correct though, for Solavei and why I'm not succeeding with it. (Because the offline stuff is not what I like doing or am good at.)

      I am nevertheless going to try a new approach, using squeeze pages for MMO sniper pages or even full sites and plugging into a system that sends follow up emails and if the leads are warm, then yes, I guess I will call them. ;-D Ugh.

      Manny, thanks for the responses! Yes it is our fearless Team Unlimited leader I was speaking of, who has a squeeze page for a MMO blog, that forwards to his Solavei page.
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      • Profile picture of the author younganddirty
        I am used to affiliate marketing. Basically send people to a page amd they sign up or order. I am not used to amking calls, even though I used to be a telemarketer and loan officer in before 2007.

        right now i have no time for calls.

        Also you know Big Al (mlm guru) does not do phone calls or something like that.
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  • My unlimited plan with Verizon was $109 bucks a month. Solavei looked like the right way to go. After a month of sharing the plan with others I can say I don't have a cell phone bill anymore and neither does my wife. This company is legit and I have no regrets about joining. I put the debit card on auto pay that Solavei gave me and the rest is history.

    I wonder if there is a affiliate marketing strategy to really make this business take off?

    Lou
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      Originally Posted by Americas Best Cell Plan View Post


      I wonder if there is a affiliate marketing strategy to really make this business take off?

      Lou
      What do you mean Lou?

      I'm having success growing my Solavei business.

      My team uses a marketing system called IM Global and it's helping all of us.

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      • Profile picture of the author lianecarmi
        Originally Posted by younganddirty View Post

        I am used to affiliate marketing. Basically send people to a page amd they sign up or order. I am not used to amking calls, even though I used to be a telemarketer and loan officer in before 2007.

        right now i have no time for calls.

        Also you know Big Al (mlm guru) does not do phone calls or something like that.
        There are many network marketers who never pick up the phone...and there are many who do. If you've got the systems / copywriting / numbers for it, you can get away with never picking up the phone. It's basically a numbers game - the law of averages. But if you're limited on leads, picking up the phone is a sure way to increase your numbers and make more sales. So...if you don't have time for phone calls, make sure you have a system that does most of the heavy lifting for you. Would you pick up the phone and call if you knew that phone call would basically be to enroll someone?
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          Originally Posted by lianecarmi View Post

          There are many network marketers who never pick up the phone...and there are many who do. If you've got the systems / copywriting / numbers for it, you can get away with never picking up the phone. It's basically a numbers game - the law of averages. But if you're limited on leads, picking up the phone is a sure way to increase your numbers and make more sales. So...if you don't have time for phone calls, make sure you have a system that does most of the heavy lifting for you. Would you pick up the phone and call if you knew that phone call would basically be to enroll someone?
          Good post!

          Phone calls/following up is vital to one's success in network marketing. Most people will not join you for the business side of it if they don't trust or know you.

          I have had people join with just facebook contact but they were already on my FB friends list.

          Not many have I signed up without a phone call to introduce myself.

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          • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
            I'm p*ssed that Solavei closed my youtube channel down just for using the videos that THEY provided to us to show people, and they gave me NO warning about it whatsoever.

            I'm also p*ssed that Solavei changed the terms so you make HALF now what you made before for people under the people you personally signed up. I've about had it with them. This was really a dishonest move, like "bait and switch" as far as I'm concerned: Get people to sign up and promise them $20/month for every trio the people you sign up get, and then switch that to $10/month. I call a Foul!

            Their phone service is great, I'll say that and I will probably remain a member but I'm putting my marketing skills to better use. It's just plain hard to get people to sign up for new cell phone service unless you call them or talk to them in person, and that's not for me. I'm still going to try one more internet marketing system with them but if that doesn't work, I'm out.

            With my other IM efforts I just have to write stuff, create links, get ranked, and get paid! Solavei is too overly protective of their brand! Closing people's youtube accounts - without even warning them first - just for using the videos they provided to us to use, is B.S.! My sponsor quit as well, and half the people I signed up personally quit as well.

            I'm not discouraging people from signing up, I'm just telling it like it is so people go into it with their eyes open. I think this is a very good service and can be lucrative if you like doing cold calls, have a LOT of friends or a huge mailing list, or are the type of person who can approach strangers or everyone you meet on a daily basis and try to get them to sign up. For pure INTERNET marketing - not so good.
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              Originally Posted by seosoldier View Post

              I'm p*ssed that Solavei closed my youtube channel down just for using the videos that THEY provided to us to show people, and they gave me NO warning about it whatsoever.

              I'm also p*ssed that Solavei changed the terms so you make HALF now what you made before for people under the people you personally signed up. I've about had it with them. This was really a dishonest move, like "bait and switch" as far as I'm concerned: Get people to sign up and promise them $20/month for every trio the people you sign up get, and then switch that to $10/month. I call a Foul!

              Their phone service is great, I'll say that and I will probably remain a member but I'm putting my marketing skills to better use. It's just plain hard to get people to sign up for new cell phone service unless you call them or talk to them in person, and that's not for me. I'm still going to try one more internet marketing system with them but if that doesn't work, I'm out.

              With my other IM efforts I just have to write stuff, create links, get ranked, and get paid! Solavei is too overly protective of their brand! Closing people's youtube accounts - without even warning them first - just for using the videos they provided to us to use, is B.S.! My sponsor quit as well, and half the people I signed up personally quit as well.

              I'm not discouraging people from signing up, I'm just telling it like it is so people go into it with their eyes open. I think this is a very good service and can be lucrative if you like doing cold calls, have a LOT of friends or a huge mailing list, or are the type of person who can approach strangers or everyone you meet on a daily basis and try to get them to sign up. For pure INTERNET marketing - not so good.
              Sorry you are having this experience.

              Personally, I got a raise when they changed the payplan so I am definitely not complaining.

              From the horses mouth (Staci Wallace), you can market Solavei on YT as long as you don't alter anything. I do know others who have had their YT channels shut down. I know for a fact that Solavei works closely with Google to make sure that people don't use Solavei (anything) in marketing urls.

              I do have a YT channel and do market Solavei and have not had a problem.

              If you are going to promote any Network Marketing company it is highly recommended you call people to develop relationships. If you just want to market and make sales and leave it there then affiliate marketing is the way. Network Marketing is about relationships...building trust.

              I have lost a few people here and there but that is part of business. You start a business...you hire and fire people. We don't have to fire anyone..they do that themselves when they realize there is actual work needed to make money.

              There is a pattern I've noticed with people.

              They get in...they get excited....they tell a few people that don't sign up then they get discouraged then they run.

              People don't realize...it's a business you are building. It requires work and it requires leadership.

              I've been in Network Marketing for over 15 years and have never experienced the level of growth and success I am having with Solavei.

              It's mental toughness. I don't let things get to me. I have to lead people I won't let things bother me that I cannot control.

              I am Solavei,

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    ^^^^^^^

    Amen!
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  • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
    Solavei had another regional event in Vegas this past weekend and major announcements were made

    I try not to get too excited about things because I don't like hype but I am pretty gitty about this stuff!!!!

    Solavei is introducing their marketplace that will combine the power of discounts, Deals, and affinity marketing with mobile, paycard linking and vendor partner relationships to allow members and non members to save (we all get paid to share).

    They are linking with First Data to provide infrastructure and relationships. First Data is the largest processor in the world. They did over 1 TRILLION in transactions last year.

    Along with us having the ability to bring on vendors (and earning as the deals and offers get used).

    The Solavei Marketplace adds additional value to the overall service that you only pay $49/mo for their unlimited voice, text, and data

    No one in the mobile industry has this!

    This will feature what matters most to me and you the user that we would use. Our likes will be different so they focus on what you want.

    Features offers:
    *Prepaid offers
    *Discounts - Go here and get % off. Could be 10 20 or 30 % off!
    *Loyalty programs
    = All you need is your purple paycard that you get when you sign up as a social member.

    This looks like Groupon and Living Social but with more involved.
    This will include getting health insurance options at a great price and getting Satellite TV. Great part of this is when we refer people to this we get paid from doing this

    Offering Redemption Through Card-Linking which is where First Data comes in.
    _Connects to offers and discounts
    -Check loyalty programs (Get FREE and Discounts and person who enrolled the members using it gets paid for referring them to Solavei

    There is Value in the Purple Card.

    Solavei Merchant Platform Features
    *Destinations
    *Offers
    *Promotions
    *Distributions
    *Marketing and Visibility

    Digital Footprint Optimizations
    *Will let us know what is going on in our area. How many Solavei people are in our area. How many Credit Card users are in our area and MORE.

    We are not just mobile anymore...we have stepped up our Social Commerce Platform a whole other level.

    This is a no-brainer!

    I am Solavei,

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    • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
      Another great endorsement from the media on Solavei's service:

      IRL: Mophie Juice Pack Plus for iPhone 5 and testing Solavei's MVNO

      SOLAVEI

      It's a bit of a jungle out there in the world of Mobile Virtual Network Operators (MVNOs), and while joining one is usually cost effective in terms of service, getting a decent handset is a whole different matter. There's also the issue that most virtual operators lack LTE support and provide coverage that's often hit-or-miss. As a result, we usually recommend MVNOs built upon AT&T and T-Mobile's networks since these accept most unlocked GSM phones and offer "4G" (faux-G) HSPA+ data speeds in populous areas.

      Solavei is one such virtual operator. The company uses T-Mobile's EDGE and HSPA+ network (no LTE) and partners with GSM Nation to offer a reasonable selection of AWS-capable, unlocked, unsubsidized handsets -- some older (HTC myTouch 4G and Sensation XE), some newer (Samsung Galaxy S III and iPhone 5). Of course, you're welcome to bring your own unlocked GSM phone as long as it's compatible with T-Mobile's bands (AWS support is recommended for best HSPA+ coverage, but 1900MHz works in re-farmed areas).

      Service is month-to-month and contract-free -- $49 a month buys you unlimited nationwide voice, text messaging and data (though you'll get dropped to EDGE speeds after gobbling up 4GB). Additional pay-as-you-go rates are available for international calling. The schtick with Solavei is that for every three people you sign up directly, the MVNO pays you $20 (up to $20K a month, apparently), so referrals are encouraged. Of course, that's no different from businesses like Tupperware and Amway.

      I've been using a Solavei device and SIM for several weeks now and it's been a mostly trouble-free experience. Network performance and coverage matches what we've seen on T-Mobile here in San Francisco, with excellent HSPA+ data speeds in most areas (and the same annoying dead zones in some parts, like the Mission District). Ditto outside the city. My demo handset, a Samsung ATIV S running Windows Phone 8, came from GSM Nation and started life as a Telus device (judging by the pre-installed apps).

      All told, I tried Solavei's SIM on several phones: some unlocked, some T-Mobile-branded, some AWS-capable, some not. Most picked up the APN settings automatically, and for the rest we just set it manually using T-Mobile defaults. All in all, I'd recommend Solavei as an alternative to T-Mobile's pre-paid service with the caveat that virtual operator Straight Talk offers the same plan on the same network for only $45 per month, minus the referral program, of course. I'll leave you to decide if that last part is for you.
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        BREAKING NEWS!
        NEW members enrolling June 17-June 30 get $50 back on their Pay Card!
        * Must enroll between June 17-30.
        * Must Activate SIM card before July 15.
        * Must pay bill & remain active through 9/12.
        * $50 will be deposited on to member's pay card on 9/12.
        * Member must be Social Member WITH service (SMO doesn't count)

        Simply sign up for their $49/month unlimited voice, text, data (no enrollment fee) and enroll for their Purple Debit Card (no fee) and you get the $50 as long as you keep service thru September 12.

        Pretty good deal!

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        • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
          Solavei extended their current promotion of getting $25 back when you sign up for service.

          $49/month unlimited voice, text, data on a 4G Nationwide Network.

          Activate mobile service by August 15 and keep service through October 12 and Solavei will deposit $25 onto your Solavei issued debit card. No questions asked it's done automatically.

          The promotion will officially end Friday August 2nd Midnight.

          Great news!

          If you are a Solavei member and you refer someone you will get $25 as well as your new associate.

          Love helping people save money :-)

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          • Profile picture of the author Drunken1
            If AYCE isn't the best Manny, what in your opinion is? I'd be interested to know
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              Originally Posted by Drunken1 View Post

              If AYCE isn't the best Manny, what in your opinion is? I'd be interested to know
              ...
              Best??

              Best is a matter of opinion.

              What you may think is the best I may think is the worse. NO I don't think AYCE is the worse. Not at all.

              Personally, I like the SOCO system the best.

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  • I looked at this company in the past but just didn't like it. I did, however stumble into a unique anti-aging product network marketing business a few months back that my wife joined up with and its been the best network marketing business i have ever found.

    Its only been around just over a year and did $100 million the first year on the market. and on top of that, its only been launched in the US so there is huge growth potential as we start to launch into other countries through the end of this year.

    The reason I believe in the product so much is the product truly works, and works fast. another great thing about this company they donate 30% of it's profits to cancer research. no other company that i know of does this.

    if anyone wants to learn more about the product or the company, let me know. if you're outside the US, get in touch so you can be one of the first to carry this product in your country.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheCLPro
    I have switched to using Solavei for both my iPhone 5 and my Samsung Galaxy Note... And the service is excellent. 4G is strong. No dropped calls.

    With that said, I have already started to integrate Solavei into some of my marketing campaigns and wireless services that I have already been offering over the past year and things are going great thus far. No complaints at this stage.
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    and the difference between this and rupplin?
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    • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
      Originally Posted by Alexchan338 View Post

      and the difference between this and rupplin?
      UHM quite a bit!

      Number 1 it doesn't cost $300 to get involved with Solavei
      Number 2 Rippln doesn't offer mobile service nor does it have a marketplace to save consumers money.

      I could go on but those two alone doesn't even make rippln competition.

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  • Profile picture of the author go4wealth
    Thought I would share my thoughts on Solavei . I joined initially because i was ready to switch from AT&T and was searching for a lower priced service. As always for me I always factor into my decision process of potentially putting make a few bucks in my pocket ... so from my perspective Solavei was a no brainer because I figured over time I could get my costs reduced... I had no intention at first of spending my time and efforts marketing the service.

    After signing up i started looking into what is an MVNO.. after learning the difficulty of first becoming an MVNO ... the even greater difficulty of securing a partnership with an MNO and the even more difficulty of MVNO becoming a successful phone service needles to say I was impressed

    Then I looked at there compensation .. without going into a lot of detail from my perspective it was brilliant especially when they made changes in how they calculated trios (this comp plan is a slow burner ... because of the product it provides very high retention rates). I will write on this issue in detail when I get the time.

    There opening the door for Nonprofits has taken there program to whole new level.. Saturday I did a presentation at a Church focusing on this one aspect... had very good results and feedback

    The coming Solavei Marketplace (explained well be another post) is will kick Solavei up to an even higher level. I am finally beginning to understand the difference between Social Commerce and Social Media Marketing ... been reading a lot regarding Social Commerce but the bell did not go off unto i was in Vegas and saw what is developing with the Solavei Marketplace... I have special presentation just on this that i will be turning into a video soon

    One of the most lucrative aspects of the Solavei Marketplace is that we will be able to plug in business from our local areas and when any one uses there Solavei Visa debit card to purchase any anything form that merchant the person who signed up that merchant will get a little something ..how much we will learn soon.. but this is HUGE

    I consider Jeff Mills AYCE Marketing System, at this time, to be the premier system for marketing your Solavei business. If you are in Solavei and want a marketing system that is superior to the one promoted in your back office PM me. if you can't drop I note in the forum and I will contact you and send you I url where you can test it for free for 7 days

    I personally Solavei is the AL Williams of the cellphone industry and the leading pioneer in the new arena of Social Graph Theories. What they are doing in the area of Social Commerce is revolutionary and I believe that is why First Data is coming aboard ... there entry into the Solavei sphere is by itself something that indicates this company may well change the very nature of advertising and marketing for both large and small businesses.

    All I can say is come aboard and enjoy the ride. There will be great challenges .. but i think there will be great rewards as well for those who stick with this company... if are aboard or plan to come aboard expect many challenges .. many ups and downs... even some legal challenges .. and some changes ... this is just par for the course especially when something this immense is emerging

    Just my personal thoughts
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      My above post has many errors and typos but hopefully it is clear.. but have to rush of to Church so don't have time to correct now
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      Originally Posted by go4wealth View Post

      Thought I would share my thoughts on Solavei . I joined initially because i was ready to switch from AT&T and was searching for a lower priced service. As always for me I always factor into my decision process of potentially putting make a few bucks in my pocket ... so from my perspective Solavei was a no brainer because I figured over time I could get my costs reduced... I had no intention at first of spending my time and efforts marketing the service.

      After signing up i started looking into what is an MVNO.. after learning the difficulty of first becoming an MVNO ... the even greater difficulty of securing a partnership with an MNO and the even more difficulty of MVNO becoming a successful phone service needles to say I was impressed

      Then I looked at there compensation .. without going into a lot of detail from my perspective it was brilliant especially when they made changes in how they calculated trios (this comp plan is a slow burner ... because of the product it provides very high retention rates). I will write on this issue in detail when I get the time.

      There opening the door for Nonprofits has taken there program to whole new level.. Saturday I did a presentation at a Church focusing on this one aspect... had very good results and feedback

      The coming Solavei Marketplace (explained well be another post) is will kick Solavei up to an even higher level. I am finally beginning to understand the difference between Social Commerce and Social Media Marketing ... been reading a lot regarding Social Commerce but the bell did not go off unto i was in Vegas and saw what is developing with the Solavei Marketplace... I have special presentation just on this that i will be turning into a video soon

      One of the most lucrative aspects of the Solavei Marketplace is that we will be able to plug in business from our local areas and when any one uses there Solavei Visa debit card to purchase any anything form that merchant the person who signed up that merchant will get a little something ..how much we will learn soon.. but this is HUGE

      I consider Jeff Mills AYCE Marketing System, at this time, to be the premier system for marketing your Solavei business. If you are in Solavei and want a marketing system that is superior to the one promoted in your back office PM me. if you can't drop I note in the forum and I will contact you and send you I url where you can test it for free for 7 days

      I personally Solavei is the AL Williams of the cellphone industry and the leading pioneer in the new arena of Social Graph Theories. What they are doing in the area of Social Commerce is revolutionary and I believe that is why First Data is coming aboard ... there entry into the Solavei sphere is by itself something that indicates this company may well change the very nature of advertising and marketing for both large and small businesses.

      All I can say is come aboard and enjoy the ride. There will be great challenges .. but i think there will be great rewards as well for those who stick with this company... if are aboard or plan to come aboard expect many challenges .. many ups and downs... even some legal challenges .. and some changes ... this is just par for the course especially when something this immense is emerging

      Just my personal thoughts
      Great post.

      I would have to disagree with your thoughts on the AYCE marketing system. It's good but no way the best.

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  • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
    I hate that I now get regular spam phone calls from people trying to get me to sign up for their Solavei promotion tools/software/squeeze page/systems...

    I didn't think Solavei was about spamming people with emails OR phone calls.
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      Originally Posted by seosoldier View Post

      I hate that I now get regular spam phone calls from people trying to get me to sign up for their Solavei promotion tools/software/squeeze page/systems...

      I didn't think Solavei was about spamming people with emails OR phone calls.
      you can point your finger at Solavei but I'm sure if you called Solavei (corp) and let them know of these "spam" calls they would be all over it to get those members to stop. That is not how Solavei operates.

      It's members...just like any company out there....they do what benefits them the most.

      Solavei is not spamming you. I am surprised as I thought you would know this.

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      • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
        Originally Posted by CoachManny View Post

        you can point your finger at Solavei but I'm sure if you called Solavei (corp) and let them know of these "spam" calls they would be all over it to get those members to stop. That is not how Solavei operates.

        It's members...just like any company out there....they do what benefits them the most.

        Solavei is not spamming you. I am surprised as I thought you would know this.

        Manny
        Manny, don't some of the Solavei groups promote a sales system of buying cold phone leads to make cold calls?

        In any case a lot of them are doing it! I have already received 4-5 calls where people apparently get my phone number from one of my web sites and then call and leave a pre-recorded message on my phone.

        It seems to me Solavei just doesn't have the man power to enforce their "Brand" rules and other marketing rules. I have reported youtube channels using "Solavei" (since mine was deleted without warning, and I wasn't EVEN using the word Solavei in my title), and months have gone by and they are still allowed to do it. The rules seem to be enforced selectively.
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          Originally Posted by seosoldier View Post

          Manny, don't some of the Solavei groups promote a sales system of buying cold phone leads to make cold calls?

          In any case a lot of them are doing it! I have already received 4-5 calls where people apparently get my phone number from one of my web sites and then call and leave a pre-recorded message on my phone.

          It seems to me Solavei just doesn't have the man power to enforce their "Brand" rules and other marketing rules. I have reported youtube channels using "Solavei" (since mine was deleted without warning, and I wasn't EVEN using the word Solavei in my title), and months have gone by and they are still allowed to do it. The rules seem to be enforced selectively.
          Selling leads? I cannot vouch for that as I don't hear people promoting any leads company. I am using the SOCO system and part of it has the option to buy leads but nothing I would recommend and my upline didn't recommend I try them. It's just there as an option.

          If it is one thing I always do...if people are recommending anything whether it's a "system" or training I always check if they are on the leaderboard or if they are a thousandaire.

          I don't sweat the things I cannot control.

          I too have gotten a phone call as you referenced but that is what people do to get you to join them. I get calls all the time from outside of Solavei.

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    Never heard of this SOCO system, is there a link?
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  • Profile picture of the author ewilner
    Is there anyone in New York using Solavei. Would love to know if they are happy with the service.
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      Originally Posted by ewilner View Post

      Is there anyone in New York using Solavei. Would love to know if they are happy with the service.
      Yes I have a couple of partners using Solavei in NYC. They have been in Solavei since about October.

      Since the refarming by T-Mobile their service has only gotten better.

      Should expect LTE by the end of the year.

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  • Profile picture of the author Melody
    A couple of questions:
    Is it now iphone friendly?
    Have they added tethering (personal hotspot) so I can use my ipad with my iphone data plan?

    I am with AT&T and hate them - would love to move to Solavei - looked at it when they first launched but the phone selection was limited and no tethering for iPads, laptops etc

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      Originally Posted by Melody View Post

      A couple of questions:
      Is it now iphone friendly?
      Have they added tethering (personal hotspot) so I can use my ipad with my iphone data plan?

      I am with AT&T and hate them - would love to move to Solavei - looked at it when they first launched but the phone selection was limited and no tethering for iPads, laptops etc

      Melody
      It's best to use with the T-Mobile iPhone 5.

      In some areas you will get 3G if T-Mobile has refarmed in your area.

      They will not be add tethering anytime soon. Sorry. Most MVNO's if any don't offer tethering/hotspot. In our case I don't see T-Mobile allowing it anytime soon. If they did it would probably cost more than $49/month for unlimited everything.

      I use to be with ATT. I know what you mean. I'm now saving over $100/month thanks to Solavei.

      Hope this helps,

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      • Profile picture of the author Melody
        Originally Posted by CoachManny View Post

        It's best to use with the T-Mobile iPhone 5.

        In some areas you will get 3G if T-Mobile has refarmed in your area.

        They will not be add tethering anytime soon. Sorry. Most MVNO's if any don't offer tethering/hotspot. In our case I don't see T-Mobile allowing it anytime soon. If they did it would probably cost more than $49/month for unlimited everything.

        I use to be with ATT. I know what you mean. I'm now saving over $100/month thanks to Solavei.

        Hope this helps,

        Manny
        Without tethering - pretty much useless to me!
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        • Profile picture of the author Drunken1
          I'm a Solavei member Melody, and I can tether just fine. It probably helps that I'm using a Rooted Galaxy Note running a custom ROM, but I'm sure the same could be done on an iphone, probably would require jailbreaking it. There are tutorials online.
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            Originally Posted by Drunken1 View Post

            I'm a Solavei member Melody, and I can tether just fine. It probably helps that I'm using a Rooted Galaxy Note running a custom ROM, but I'm sure the same could be done on an iphone, probably would require jailbreaking it. There are tutorials online.
            I thought tethering was not allowed and could get you kicked out...
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    I've never heard of this company. Are they in the US only?
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      Originally Posted by carlamae View Post

      I've never heard of this company. Are they in the US only?
      Right now US and Puerto Rico and will be launching in Europe in 2014.

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    Sign up for Solavei Mobile Service and your service will be $39/month for 3 months!

    This is a GREAT deal.

    Unlimited talk, text, data (4Gigs at 4G before throttle) on a nationwide 4G network.

    You have till September 3rd to take advantage of this special offer.

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      Originally Posted by CoachManny View Post

      Sign up for Solavei Mobile Service and your service will be $39/month for 3 months!

      This is a GREAT deal.

      Unlimited talk, text, data (4Gigs at 4G before throttle) on a nationwide 4G network.

      You have till September 3rd to take advantage of this special offer.

      Manny
      Solavei extended the offer through September 20 (Day before their 1 year anniversary bash).

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    Solavei is offering a 1-year anniversary special.

    $29 first month! for unlimited voice, text and data on a nationwide 4G network and they are releasing their Solavei Marketplace which will separate them from any mobile service provider out there. Solavei is not just mobile service anymore.

    This is the perfect time to get involved.

    The Solavei Marketplace will make commerce less expensive and more profitable.

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    New Solavei promotion through November 21.

    Get Unlimited voice, text, and data for $49 and get your second month FREE.

    Great deal!

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    How do you drive traffic to this business?
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    • Profile picture of the author lianecarmi
      Originally Posted by carlamae View Post

      How do you drive traffic to this business?
      You can pretty much drive traffic any way you want. I personally use a system that includes a large variety of landing pages and does a majority of the selling for me on the back end. So when I drive traffic, I can tell what's converting and what isn't.

      I've run paid traffic (PPV, mobile) and I've sent free traffic (craigslist, SEO, social media), plus I've also personally spoken with most of my friends & family (it's too good not to!). My personal favorite tactic is doing webinars. Nothing converts like a webinar (to someone else's list, as well as my own).

      On a side note, you're not supposed to run paid traffic directly to your Solavei page, so you definitely want to use some sort of system on the front end - or in the least your own capture page or landing page.

      Was there a particular type of traffic you were interested in running?
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      Originally Posted by carlamae View Post

      How do you drive traffic to this business?
      Hi CarlaMae,

      For me personally, I use a company called IMGlobal that has 17 marketing tools in one package.

      I don't use all of them at this time but the blogging platform is the main way I'm getting traffic and customers/partners.

      Facebook is another thing that has been a key ingredient to my growth.

      Talking to my warm market has helped me grow as well.

      Those three have been a driving force to my growth as I'm almost at Social Thousandaire. There have been other things as well that has helped me grow but this is my main 3.

      There are some new things that I'm delving into to drive traffic and build my list. That is the main thing I'm focusing on is building a list.

      There is quite a bit on my platform to marketing Solavei.

      Hope this helps,

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  • Profile picture of the author dieselpro
    Why did they name it Solavei though? Sounds like some MLM dietery supplement or tonic opportunity.

    They should have named it something that sounded like an actually cellular carrier company. I dont know Wired Mobile or something. Motor Club of America (MCA) works as a network marketing bizopp, because the company name represents the core product, which is roadside assistance. So, it appeal to the non-bizopp customer. Most of the guys in MCA doing several thousand a week, due significant business to people who just want the roadside assistance product. If it was named Solavei versus Motor Club of America, how much harder would it be, to sell that product. Names are very important, ask actors or recording artists. Solavie sounds like a MLM name versus a mobile carrier name. Also, it offers the same prepaid plan that well known carriers like T-Mobile and Simple Mobile offer ($50 for unlimited talk, text, web). I guess it offers the bizopp option and other things, but the name sucks. I'm sure they're plenty of 5 figure per month earners involved irrespective of the name, but still. They should have followed the MCA branding model, it would have been easier to sell, to non-biz opp prospects.
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    • Profile picture of the author lianecarmi
      Originally Posted by dieselpro View Post

      Why did they name it Solavei though? Sounds like some MLM dietery supplement or tonic opportunity.

      They should have named it something that sounded like an actually cellular carrier company. I dont know Wired Mobile or something. Motor Club of America (MCA) works as a network marketing bizopp, because the company name represents the core product, which is roadside assistance. So, it appeal to the non-bizopp customer. Most of the guys in MCA doing several thousand a week, due significant business to people who just want the roadside assistance product. If it was named Solavei versus Motor Club of America, how much harder would it be, to sell that product. Names are very important, ask actors or recording artists. Solavie sounds like a MLM name versus a mobile carrier name. Also, it offers the same prepaid plan that well known carriers like T-Mobile and Simple Mobile offer ($50 for unlimited talk, text, web). I guess it offers the bizopp option and other things, but the name sucks. I'm sure they're plenty of 5 figure per month earners involved irrespective of the name, but still. They should have followed the MCA branding model, it would have been easier to sell, to non-biz opp prospects.
      I have to be honest with you...I'm looking at your post and trying to figure out what you're really trying to say, or, rather, what the point of your post really is.

      ...that someone could make more sales if the name of the company was different, more practical? Obviously not something we can really test, but in the back of my mind I'm thinking that's kind of ludicrous.

      (Side note: Solavei means "sun in your veins," I think in Portuguese. Someone else here could probably verify / give more info).

      Someone who's going to make money selling Solavei would sell it regardless of its name (as Shakespeare once wrote, "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"). I've personally never had anyone question the name when I was in the process of signing them up. No one has ever said, "well...I'm interested...but I'm not sure about the name!"

      And of course, I could give examples like "Sprint" (what's that got to do with mobile?) and "Verizon" (same question).

      So...

      I'll just ask: what is your goal in writing that post, assuming there is one?
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    • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
      Originally Posted by dieselpro View Post

      Why did they name it Solavei though? Sounds like some MLM dietery supplement or tonic opportunity.

      They should have named it something that sounded like an actually cellular carrier company. I dont know Wired Mobile or something. Motor Club of America (MCA) works as a network marketing bizopp, because the company name represents the core product, which is roadside assistance. So, it appeal to the non-bizopp customer. Most of the guys in MCA doing several thousand a week, due significant business to people who just want the roadside assistance product. If it was named Solavei versus Motor Club of America, how much harder would it be, to sell that product. Names are very important, ask actors or recording artists. Solavie sounds like a MLM name versus a mobile carrier name. Also, it offers the same prepaid plan that well known carriers like T-Mobile and Simple Mobile offer ($50 for unlimited talk, text, web). I guess it offers the bizopp option and other things, but the name sucks. I'm sure they're plenty of 5 figure per month earners involved irrespective of the name, but still. They should have followed the MCA branding model, it would have been easier to sell, to non-biz opp prospects.

      FYI, Solavei is not just a mobile service company. They are a social commerce company offering mobile service and cash back rewards at over 440 retailers.

      I'm VERY familiar with MCA and I would never consider it for me. When comparing Solavei to TM or SM for the $50 plan I can tell you are not very familiar with Solavei. That's ok though...I understand.

      I'm glad they didn't follow the MCA branding model.

      Solavei has done $70 million in their first year. UHM that is more than Apple, Amazon, and Google. THat is pretty good and clearly goes against your thought. Social Media wise...Solavei is making more noise than the top 4 Carriers in the Nation.

      I think they are doing great when it comes to branding.

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      • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
        Solavei had their "Get Loud" webinar tonight!

        Great changes to their plans.

        They originally had 1 plan $49 for unlimited voice, text and data.

        Now they have 4 plans depending on your data usage.

        $29 Unlimited voice and text
        $39 Same + 500 mb of High Speed Data before throttle
        $49 Same + 2 gigs of HS Data
        $69 Same + 4 gigs of HS Data



        I'm getting ready to open a storefront so I'm super stoked to have plan options.

        Still get unlimited worldwide text to over 200 countries.

        Add on unlimited internationally calling starts at $10.


        The Solavei Marketplace that launched in October has already seen members get back hundreds of dollars from shopping at places they would already be shopping at.

        Great stuff!!!!

        Manny :-)
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          I agree, Solavei is an awful name -
          but, it is what it is...
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        • Profile picture of the author ScrooG
          Originally Posted by CoachManny View Post

          Solavei had their "Get Loud" webinar tonight!

          Great changes to their plans.

          They originally had 1 plan $49 for unlimited voice, text and data.

          Now they have 4 plans depending on your data usage.

          $29 Unlimited voice and text
          $39 Same + 500 mb of High Speed Data before throttle
          $49 Same + 2 gigs of HS Data
          $69 Same + 4 gigs of HS Data



          I'm getting ready to open a storefront so I'm super stoked to have plan options.

          Still get unlimited worldwide text to over 200 countries.

          Add on unlimited internationally calling starts at $10.


          The Solavei Marketplace that launched in October has already seen members get back hundreds of dollars from shopping at places they would already be shopping at.

          Great stuff!!!!

          Manny :-)
          So one used to get unlimited voice text and data for $49 and now to get 4gigs of data it's $69.
          Sounds to me like they raised the monthly price, which isn't such a great thing for those who bought in for the unlimited plan at $49...

          Many may now be more interested though with the $29 or $39/month plan so it may be a "wash" in the end. But I think a lot of heavy data users are going to be angry that they were told one thing and now they are being told they'll have to pay a lot more for the same usage.
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            Originally Posted by ScrooG View Post

            So one used to get unlimited voice text and data for $49 and now to get 4gigs of data it's $69.
            Sounds to me like they raised the monthly price, which isn't such a great thing for those who bought in for the unlimited plan at $49...

            Many may now be more interested though with the $29 or $39/month plan so it may be a "wash" in the end. But I think a lot of heavy data users are going to be angry that they were told one thing and now they are being told they'll have to pay a lot more for the same usage.
            Actually that is not accurate.

            All the plans are unlimited and it's always been unlimited.

            The difference is how much data you get at high speeds before throttling.

            But they are all unlimited.

            Most people are realizing they can save money.

            I, for one, don't ever hit the 1 gig of data so dropping down to $39/mo is ideal.

            And referring 3 at any plan will still give them $20 cash towards their bill.

            This opens it up much for family plans.

            Thanks for commenting,

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            • Profile picture of the author ScrooG
              Originally Posted by CoachManny View Post

              Actually that is not accurate.

              All the plans are unlimited and it's always been unlimited.

              The difference is how much data you get at high speeds before throttling.

              But they are all unlimited.

              Most people are realizing they can save money.

              I, for one, don't ever hit the 1 gig of data so dropping down to $39/mo is ideal.

              And referring 3 at any plan will still give them $20 cash towards their bill.

              This opens it up much for family plans.

              Thanks for commenting,

              Manny
              The difference is that many people signed up with the understanding they were going to get 4gigs of high speed 4G data for $49/month.

              And now Solavei has said no, you have to pay $69/month for that plan.

              Honestly, they should have grandfathered in anyone who is already a member, and to change the contracted price is not fair to those who went out and bought phones with the understanding that Solavei would provide them with 4gigs of 4g speed before throttling, for $49/month and now it's $69/month.
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                Originally Posted by ScrooG View Post

                The difference is that many people signed up with the understanding they were going to get 4gigs of high speed 4G data for $49/month.

                And now Solavei has said no, you have to pay $69/month for that plan.

                Honestly, they should have grandfathered in anyone who is already a member, and to change the contracted price is not fair to those who went out and bought phones with the understanding that Solavei would provide them with 4gigs of 4g speed before throttling, for $49/month and now it's $69/month.
                It's hard to please everyone.

                Most people don't really use over 2 gigs of data. That is how they came up with the new rates.

                There are ways around it...simply refer 3 people and u still avg paying 49 for 4gigs of data.

                From what I'm understanding now that we can look at the last 3 months of use most people including myself are downgrading to the 39/mo plan.

                I haven't hit 1 gig of data in the last 3 months and probably my whole time with Solavei.

                This opens it up for much more growth for the company and my business.

                I understand some do use more than 3 gigs and maybe they are not the happiest, I don't know.

                I'm sure more changes will come.

                IMO it was a GREAT move overall.

                I'm very excited about it.

                Most people on my team are downgrading to the 39/mo plan.

                Wifi is in our homes and pretty much all over.

                Then again, I do work full time from home.

                If it has affected you and you are not happy about it I am sorry.


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    Well it appears Solavei is on its way down if not out now.
    As a member from the beginning I watched as they made changes like charging more for "unlimited" data even though they started out promising everyone "unlimited data" for $49/month. Then they raised the price higher for anyone using over 2 gigs a month of data, a month or so ago.

    Actually this helped me as I use less than 500mb a month so they offered a new lower price of $39/month for using less than 500mb a month. However that does not make what they did right. They should have grandfathered in anyone who signed up under that original promise!

    Also some time ago they changed the level 2 payout (that's people who are signed up by those you signed up) from $20/mo to $10/month for each "trio" (3 people). Another nail in the coffin and a change that hurt many members.

    But now last month they totally screwed the pooch.
    They now are no longer offering monthly payouts of even $10 per trio for 2nd level members! This is the real punch in the mouth - they now no longer pay ANYTHING on level 2 members (members signed up directly by those you signed up).

    What a scam! They start out paying $20 for every 3 members, 1st or 2nd level, now they pay $15 per trio on level 1 and $0 on level 2! Can anyone say "Ryan Wuerch is a lying sack of excrement who strung people along and then pulled the rug out from under them"?

    As far as I'm concerned - and according to posts on their own forum after this happened, many agree with me - this is a total betrayal of everyone who worked hard to create a network of members under them, helping their members recruit new members so they would benefit financially from the spreading of Solavei. Many people have had the income they worked 2 years to create cut in half with this latest change!

    As to the service, I am very satisfied and will continue to use the service.
    But as to the so-called "social commerce" - spreading the word via word of mouth to sign up other members - there is very little incentive now to do so. I mean, sure, if someone asks me about it or I hear someone is looking for a new mobile service I will tell them about it and if they sign up I get $5/month more. Woop-de-doo. But I will not bother to actually "promote" it any more.

    As far as I'm concerned this new change is the death toll for Solavei's original concept and I am willing to bet they'll be selling out all their members to T-mobile or someone else soon, and no one will get any more monthly payments. Already they cut many people's monthly payouts in half with this latest change so it's pretty much a losing bet now.
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      Originally Posted by ScrooG View Post

      Well it appears Solavei is on its way down if not out now.
      As a member from the beginning I watched as they made changes like charging more for "unlimited" data even though they started out promising everyone "unlimited data" for $49/month. Then they raised the price higher for anyone using over 2 gigs a month of data, a month or so ago.

      Actually this helped me as I use less than 500mb a month so they offered a new lower price of $39/month for using less than 500mb a month. However that does not make what they did right. They should have grandfathered in anyone who signed up under that original promise!

      Also some time ago they changed the level 2 payout (that's people who are signed up by those you signed up) from $20/mo to $10/month for each "trio" (3 people). Another nail in the coffin and a change that hurt many members.

      But now last month they totally screwed the pooch.
      They now are no longer offering monthly payouts of even $10 per trio for 2nd level members! This is the real punch in the mouth - they now no longer pay ANYTHING on level 2 members (members signed up directly by those you signed up).

      What a scam! They start out paying $20 for every 3 members, 1st or 2nd level, now they pay $15 per trio on level 1 and $0 on level 2! Can anyone say "Ryan Wuerch is a lying sack of excrement who strung people along and then pulled the rug out from under them"?

      As far as I'm concerned - and according to posts on their own forum after this happened, many agree with me - this is a total betrayal of everyone who worked hard to create a network of members under them, helping their members recruit new members so they would benefit financially from the spreading of Solavei. Many people have had the income they worked 2 years to create cut in half with this latest change!

      As to the service, I am very satisfied and will continue to use the service.
      But as to the so-called "social commerce" - spreading the word via word of mouth to sign up other members - there is very little incentive now to do so. I mean, sure, if someone asks me about it or I hear someone is looking for a new mobile service I will tell them about it and if they sign up I get $5/month more. Woop-de-doo. But I will not bother to actually "promote" it any more.

      As far as I'm concerned this new change is the death toll for Solavei's original concept and I am willing to bet they'll be selling out all their members to T-mobile or someone else soon, and no one will get any more monthly payments. Already they cut many people's monthly payouts in half with this latest change so it's pretty much a losing bet now.
      You are way off base buddy.

      You have been in since the beginning? Yes there were some changes.

      Solavei has enrolled more people in the 8 days than in the same time last year. That is on its way up!:-)

      Ryan did what is best for business.

      There is a lot to this story but your premise is from a bitter Solavei member who doesn't like the changes.

      Bottom line is that you can't please them all.

      The changes make sense.

      You are earning extra income for simply having mobile service with them. How much better can that be?

      You are getting cash back rewards for simply having mobile service at a reasonable price.

      People are getting paid now that have not received a dime from Solavei previously.

      This is great!!!!

      Think about others.

      People were making 10k/month after being in the business for a year. That should not happen in reality. This is a 3-5 year plan to make that kind of money not a get rich quick scheme. Changes were needed and this makes sense.

      I'm all in!

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      • Profile picture of the author deu12000
        Manny are you the co-owner or just the number one fanboy?

        Originally Posted by CoachManny View Post

        You are earning extra income for simply having mobile service with them. How much better can that be?

        You are getting cash back rewards for simply having mobile service at a reasonable price.
        Is this a joke? I pay less directly with T-Mobile than the plans mentioned in this thread.

        Originally Posted by CoachManny View Post

        People are getting paid now that have not received a dime from Solavei previously.
        Ok so they shaft previous earners and now get to pay commissions to people that weren't producing as much or are producing differently. Makes sense alienate top earners and keep more in your pocket.

        Originally Posted by CoachManny View Post

        People were making 10k/month after being in the business for a year. That should not happen in reality. This is a 3-5 year plan to make that kind of money not a get rich quick scheme. Changes were needed and this makes sense.
        Ha ha ha. So basically an MLM company that promises unlimited earning potential wants to cap your growth because you earned too much by following their plan.


        This sounds more like a way to pay out less money while keeping the customers that they were sent from the lowly worker. I've seen other companies do this. They promise you something and realize it's more profitable to just keep the client for themselves and no longer give you the residual income.
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        • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
          I'm a Social Member not a co-owner.

          I'm a supporter of what this company is doing.

          I've been in enough MLM businesses to know the difference when I see one.

          If I wanted to look for things to complain about I probably can otherwise it's not worth it to me.

          I'm saving over $100/month by switching from AT&T to Solavei. I wouldn't have a family of 4 to sign up. If I did...I still would not choose your route but that is me.

          You see what you see I see what I see.


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      • Profile picture of the author ScrooG
        Originally Posted by CoachManny View Post

        You are way off base buddy.

        You have been in since the beginning? Yes there were some changes.

        Solavei has enrolled more people in the 8 days than in the same time last year. That is on its way up!:-)

        Ryan did what is best for business.

        There is a lot to this story but your premise is from a bitter Solavei member who doesn't like the changes.

        Bottom line is that you can't please them all.

        The changes make sense.

        You are earning extra income for simply having mobile service with them. How much better can that be?

        You are getting cash back rewards for simply having mobile service at a reasonable price.

        People are getting paid now that have not received a dime from Solavei previously.

        This is great!!!!

        Think about others.

        People were making 10k/month after being in the business for a year. That should not happen in reality. This is a 3-5 year plan to make that kind of money not a get rich quick scheme. Changes were needed and this makes sense.

        I'm all in!

        Manny
        So you REALLY think it is right that they sold people a bill of goods: "Do this work and we'll pay you this much, forever, as long as they remain members!"... and then just totally pull the rug out from under them and quit paying those people who WORKED HARD to get, say, 80 members to sign up under them and created an income BASED ON WHAT THEY WERE PROMISED?

        And so what you are saying is that it's okay for a company to use BAIT AND SWITCH tactics, which at least in retail, is illegal in at least some states, maybe all? If it isn't illegal it SHOULD be in any case!

        This is pure bait and switch, and pure abuse of marketing. Using people to sell your stuff, promising them a long term commission based on their doing your advertising for them (word of mouth) and THEN just say "Okay, that's it! We decided we're not going to pay you any more for ANY of your level 2 members!" ??? REALLY, Manny?? You REALLY think this is a good company?????

        Keep drinking the Kool-Aid!

        If I sound bitter it's not about me. I actually am doing better with this new plan.

        But what it shows me is that this company has no moral principles whatsoever. They will lie and change things again and again to make $, that's all they care about. Just like all the other corporations all they care about is their bottom line, never about the people.

        They first showed this when they raised the prices for people using over 2gigs of data per month, after PROMISING "unlimited data" for $49/month.

        Those people should have been grandfathered in based on the bill of goods they were sold.

        Now getting rid of 2nd level payments is completely unacceptable and many many people had half the income they worked hard to get, wiped out in one fell swoop!

        I cannot and will not justify this kind of behavior from a company that did it's utmost to convince me (and everyone else) it was about PEOPLE.

        Clearly it's not about people, it's about making sure the people at the top get their pay while all those who did the hard work to build the business - the worker ants - get their pay CUT.

        BULLCR*P!

        But keep drinking the kool-aid. After a while you too will see that this company is not worth your time and you too will regret the time you put into it. Mark my words.
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        • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
          Scroog...that's on you.

          I don't feel the way you do.

          They made mistakes...I'm sure they realize that.

          Should I be angry cause I lost hundreds every month??? NO I shouldn't. I would rather them be in business for the long haul than for them to keep paying people $1300 just cause they got 54 people in and lose money in the process. That shouldn't be that simple anyway.

          I don't have any issues what so ever.

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  • Profile picture of the author deu12000
    I don't know anything about Solavei and can't say whether it's a good business or not, but for cell phone service, why not just go directly to T-Mobile? I pay $100 plus taxes (actual total is around $110) per month for 4 cell phones with unlimited everything (internet is slowed after 500MB). From looking at the pricing listed above T-Mobile has the exact same pricing and no longer have contracts and now they offer free limited tethering. If you get multiple cell phones it gets cheaper than Solavei.

    I was brought into this thread because a friend was trying to get me to sign up for Solavei. I have no interest in MLM, but I like to read up on the different companies and business models.
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      Originally Posted by deu12000 View Post

      I don't know anything about Solavei and can't say whether it's a good business or not, but for cell phone service, why not just go directly to T-Mobile? I pay $100 plus taxes (actual total is around $110) per month for 4 cell phones with unlimited everything (internet is slowed after 500MB). From looking at the pricing listed above T-Mobile has the exact same pricing and no longer have contracts and now they offer free limited tethering. If you get multiple cell phones it gets cheaper than Solavei.

      I was brought into this thread because a friend was trying to get me to sign up for Solavei. I have no interest in MLM, but I like to read up on the different companies and business models.
      You make some good points.

      You do get some benefits when you go with the main carrier that you don't with Solavei. Example, short code messaging and tethering are not available just yet. Will in the future but not at this time.

      Most people won't enroll 4 cell phones to T-Mobile so you have a family plan there.

      With Solavei your phone bill would have been $24/month instead of $40 with up to 500mb of data.

      To break that down....you would have gotten $5/each on those 3 lines and if you signed them up this month you would have gotten a bonus of $50 cash for you to spend how ever you choose to.

      So for a member looking to make some extra cashflow an extra $65 puts a smile on their face.

      A member not looking to make some extra cashflow still gets benefits like cash back rewards at thousands of places. This benefits the person who does shop often or buys Starbucks/Home Depot/Best Buy etc.

      So in some cases it will benefit some but not all.

      There is no limit how many people a person can enroll. The more a person refers the more they will earn.

      There are some pros and cons on both ends.

      T-Mobile's family plan for 4 phones is a good savings but that is it for the long run.

      Solavei offers the opportunity to get free mobile service by just referring a few people.

      ON T-Mobile you could never have free mobile service so your savings is limited.

      Solavei is not an MLM company. They don't pay on a bunch of levels. They simply pay you for each referral you personally make and when your network grows over time.

      Solavei is a social commerce company focused on making commerce less expensive and profitable. That is their goal. They will continue to add different products offering more savings including Energy, Financial Services, Cable, etc. All this savings simply comes just for having mobile service.

      T-Mobile won't be offering these things and they don't offer a Cash Back Marketplace as well as free mobile service.

      For many, they would like the savings.

      Just some thoughts,

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        Originally Posted by ScrooG View Post

        That's all well and good, but the thing is, Solavei was "sold" to us as a way to become a thousandaire and make a good income with.

        However those who did achieve thousandaire status - many of them at least - got the rug pulled out from under them.

        I for one have just entirely quit trying to promote it. It's not worth my time and trouble for $5/month. I've got bigger fish to fry. I'm DONE with Solavei! I also have a friend who signed up under me who was very gung-ho and signing up quite a few people, and after the change in commissions, he also stopped promoting them. It's just not worth it any more, unless someone just ASKS you about it.

        I will say this though: I like the telephone service I get.
        That said, it does depend on where you live though. I had several of my sign-ups quit within a month due to poor service in their area even though the map showed good coverage there. Fortunately, in my area the coverage IS good.
        54 people to earn a minimum of $1k/month was too good to be true. When they added 3 plans I knew there was no way this would be sustainable.

        I could see why many were upset about the changes but it really wasn't an option.

        To be around for the long run change had to be done.

        I, too, lost about $300/mo with the changes but I do understand.

        Now the compensation makes sense for long term reasons.

        I've not stopped promoting the business. I love the direction of the company and they are paving the way in the social commerce industry.

        Solavei Rocks,

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        • Profile picture of the author ScrooG
          Originally Posted by CoachManny View Post

          54 people to earn a minimum of $1k/month was too good to be true. When they added 3 plans I knew there was no way this would be sustainable.

          I could see why many were upset about the changes but it really wasn't an option.

          To be around for the long run change had to be done.

          I, too, lost about $300/mo with the changes but I do understand.

          Now the compensation makes sense for long term reasons.

          I've not stopped promoting the business. I love the direction of the company and they are paving the way in the social commerce industry.

          Solavei Rocks,

          Manny
          Manny I wish you the best of luck with your future with Solavei!
          That said, I respectfully have a 180 degree different perspective on it.
          They should have done more research before offering a business model that would not work and had to be drastically changed within the first year or so, to the point of pulling the rug out from under many people who had invested much time and energy.

          Everyone I know personally who got into it, is now out of it.
          Personally I think they will end up selling everyone out to TMobile or someone and everyone will lose all their commissions.
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            Originally Posted by ScrooG View Post

            Manny I wish you the best of luck with your future with Solavei!
            That said, I respectfully have a 180 degree different perspective on it.
            They should have done more research before offering a business model that would not work and had to be drastically changed within the first year or so, to the point of pulling the rug out from under many people who had invested much time and energy.

            Everyone I know personally who got into it, is now out of it.
            Personally I think they will end up selling everyone out to TMobile or someone and everyone will lose all their commissions.
            We can all have our own opinions. At the end of the day...no one can really predict the future so letting it affect you or me or anyone is a waste of energy and time.

            Because I know that change happens I don't put all my eggs in this one basket.

            Overall, I'm very happy with the direction Solavei is headed and will continue to raise some eyebrows.

            I understand change was needed. They trusted the wrong people to help make the comp plan. One particular person is now promoting something else that is in bad financial standings and trying to become a direct competitor.

            There is always two or more sides to ever story.

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            • Profile picture of the author ScrooG
              I am now unsubscribing from this thread.
              I've said my piece and am done with Solavei except as a user until I find a better deal. I won't promote it. If someone asks me about it I'll tell them I have good service where I live.
              Best of luck to all who continue trying to make money with it or get free service.
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                Originally Posted by ScrooG View Post

                I am now unsubscribing from this thread.
                I've said my piece and am done with Solavei except as a user until I find a better deal. I won't promote it. If someone asks me about it I'll tell them I have good service where I live.
                Best of luck to all who continue trying to make money with it or get free service.
                Thanks....good luck to you Scroog.

                Trying to make money??? LOL I AM making money and I have been getting free mobile service since January 2013 :-)

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                • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
                  With Solavei's brand new compensation plan (see link below), now you have to pay $297 to be allowed to participate. Didn't it used to be free, and you only had to sign up as a member with service to participate? Seems they keep making it harder to become a productive member (i.e. get compensated for bringing in new members).

                  Here's something in the new compensation plan I find interesting:

                  "NOTE: Any members with free Solavei Mobile Service do not count towards your points. Your mobile service will continue to be free as long as the people you helped enroll keep their accounts current pay their monthly bill. If someone cancels or fails to pay their Solavei Mobile Service bill, or if one of your members earns free service, you will either have to replace them or start paying for your mobile service again."

                  So if you are lucky enough to get 6-9 people to join Solavei - (# depends on the plan they sign up for), as soon as you start getting free service, if one of them gets 6-9 sign-ups, and get their service free, now you LOSE them as a way to get free service for yourself! How is this good for making $ with Solavei, again?

                  So if you were at the minimum of, let's say, 9 members having joined under you, and you then get free service, unless you have more members than the minimum at that time, you will lose your free service.

                  This is backwards from the way it started out (i.e. the bill of goods Solavei sold to members to get them to join in their "social revolution".)

                  Solavei used to REWARD you for getting people under you to get others to sign up, now they punish you!

                  This is a good business plan for them... not sure it's good for you.

                  Here's a link to their compensation plan if you would like to see it for yourself.
                  https://support.solavei.com/en/Compe...ation-Plan-pdf
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  • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
    Today, Solavei was announced as a top 100 technology company for the year by Red Herring! More proof that Solavei is not just about cellphone service.

    The Social Commerce company is making some noise!

    I am Solavei,

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    • Profile picture of the author CoachManny
      I've been with Solavei since prelaunch 2 years ago. I've been getting free mobile service every month since January 2013 and have made extra income every month since they launched.

      I'm now opening a storefront in order to help that many more people get FREE mobile service every month while sorting for business builders.

      Glad to answer any questions.

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    • Profile picture of the author ScrooG
      I was an original member.
      Since I joined 2 years ago they have changed the terms of compensation about 3 times. That right there should warn you to stay away.

      The latest one is basically an extortion of anyone who has not reached a certain level, telling them that they have to pay $298 if they want to have the hope of ever making any income with it (ie.; to continue participating in the compensation plan). This $298 fee is way more than it was before and it was never part of what people signed on for. It's a drastic change and not a good one.

      In fact I dare to say that this will mark the death knell for Solavei, the last hope of them continuing. I predict they will soon sell out all their "members" to some other phone company and members will NOT share in the profit from that sale! Members who built the business for Ryan Wuerch and whoever else has a big business interest in it will have to say "Gee, I guess I was a sucker!" "I should never have wasted my time" etc.

      Anyway, it's no problem for me because I realized what a loser Solavei was last year, and I gave up trying to make any real money with Solavei. When they kept changing the compensation plan I realized they are not worth putting any real time and effort into, as a business model. Why? Simply because they keep reducing the compensation and changing the terms to make any meaningful profit very very hard to achieve. Some will "spin" it otherwise but take it from an original member: it is very very hard to make any real money and each change in TOS makes it harder.

      Some people will tell you they get their service free and make some extra income. Sure. BUT that's not what the original promise was and those of us who started with them know they've lied from the beginning and continue to make it harder and harder to make any meaningful income via Solavei. They talked a lot about making thousands of dollars a month but then they changed the comp. plan to make it harder. Now they pretty much only talk about "free phone service". Great. Work your butt off for free phone service and work part-time for bit of extra income.

      Like any MLM there are always a few at the top making some money - particularly people with large lists of "followers" who they can send an email to or call to get to follow them into the latest MLM business. But as far as making any real money sharing with your friends like the original idea was - that's pretty much proven to be difficult due to their changing the compensation plan.

      Solavei isn't MLM, okay, but it's close enough. The bottom line is very few people are making over $2k a month with it, and again, most of those are people who had big lists or bought lists and got into it early on. I'd be willing to bet there are very few who are making over $500/month.

      Now, the word is out on the street that it's not a good company to get involved with. The one thing a company like this - fueled by a person-to-person sales force with no paid advertising - should NEVER do is just what Solavei keeps doing:
      CHANGING THE TERMS OF COMPENSATION FOR THE WORSE EVERY TIME YOU TURN AROUND.

      Manny, you've been with them a long time:
      Tell us how much money you are actually making a month! Are you willing to post censored copies of your last 3 months of checks? I didn't think so.

      In fact everyone I've known who got into Solavei is making very little - they're lucky if they're making $100 a month on top of their free phone bill. Sure that's nice, but it takes work and my time can be better spent on other endeavors. Every Solavei person I know is not making much and everyone I've asked "How much are you making?" - they find a reason not to tell me and certainly aren't willing to prove it. Until I see real stats on just how many are making good money I will continue to say most are not making much.
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  • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
    So tell me Manny, since you're the main poster here (isn't it odd that not a lot of others are here to say how great Solavei is and how much $$ they're making?), how do you spin the NEW latest change in compensation plan that now forces anyone who wants to stay in it as a business, to pay a $300 fee or whatever it is??! Sounds to me like a company on its way down who needs an influx of capitol.

    To me this is just yet another Solavei lie (a change in the basic terms) and why I will no longer promote them to anyone. I am tired of wasting my time on a company that makes it harder to make $, every time I turn around. Been there, done that, found it to be a bad sign for any company!
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      Originally Posted by seosoldier View Post

      So tell me Manny, since you're the main poster here (isn't it odd that not a lot of others are here to say how great Solavei is and how much $$ they're making?), how do you spin the NEW latest change in compensation plan that now forces anyone who wants to stay in it as a business, to pay a $300 fee or whatever it is??! Sounds to me like a company on its way down who needs an influx of capitol.

      To me this is just yet another Solavei lie (a change in the basic terms) and why I will no longer promote them to anyone. I am tired of wasting my time on a company that makes it harder to make $, every time I turn around. Been there, done that, found it to be a bad sign for any company!
      Lol this is an internet marketing forum. Where is there any company being widely talked about.

      Bottom line is you are not a network marketing pro. U r one of those that "tried" and find reasons to blame others for your lack of success.

      That's on you my friend. I got better things to do than justify changes and your bitter feelings.

      I am growing fast!

      Unlimited talk text. .. $9! Unlimited talk text data $19!

      Rather get out there and help people get free mobile service then spend time trying to convince u. Not worth it bud.

      I will say this I LOVE THE CHANGES!
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      • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
        Originally Posted by CoachManny View Post

        Lol this is an internet marketing forum. Where is there any company being widely talked about.

        Bottom line is you are not a network marketing pro. U r one of those that "tried" and find reasons to blame others for your lack of success.

        That's on you my friend. I got better things to do than justify changes and your bitter feelings.

        I am growing fast!

        Unlimited talk text. .. $9! Unlimited talk text data $19!

        Rather get out there and help people get free mobile service then spend time trying to convince u. Not worth it bud.

        I will say this I LOVE THE CHANGES!
        Good for you!
        I wonder why you don't tell us all how much you're making with this after 2 years, and show some proof?
        LOL.

        I am in network marketing and have made $1k/month average, working just a few hours a week, for the last 2 years. I can provide proof.

        My idea was to do the same with Solavei but I found it impossible to do without a huge list of "followers" which is how most have done well with it. OR people with tons of friends/family in an area where Solavei works well. That's the other problem: Solavei does not work well in a lot of locations and I had people cancel because of that.
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