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Videojacker was released today and it's being advertised as the big software breaktrough of 2014. Has anyone purchased this yet and can give their honest opinion?

The only thing holding me back so far is (and a VERY big reason) ,you still need to figure out how to generate traffic to these pages you alter. Traffic is the real problem for a lot of people, and if you can't generate traffic...what's the use?
#reviews #videojacker
  • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
    Right now Video Jacker is extremely buggy and rather useless, but the support is very, very good and new updates are being released quite often since the early bird deal on it about a week ago.

    Still, the bugs are a persistent problem and I don't feel confident about them being able to fix some of them.

    I've tested the plugin on several WP installations and server configurations and it just doesn't work as claimed. It will load sites - most of them - but after that, its really touch and go with each function whether they will work or not - sometimes the video overlay doesn't work or the link feature doesn't work or the image feature doesn't work. I haven't found a page yet where every function will work on the page chosen.

    My Advice: Don't buy Video Jacker unless you have the patience to wait for them to work on all of these bugs, because you're just setting yourself up for a frustrating experience otherwise.
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    • Profile picture of the author papeter
      Originally Posted by Joan Altz View Post

      Right now Video Jacker is extremely buggy and rather useless, but the support is very, very good and new updates are being released quite often since the early bird deal on it about a week ago.

      Still, the bugs are a persistent problem and I don't feel confident about them being able to fix some of them.

      I've tested the plugin on several WP installations and server configurations and it just doesn't work as claimed. It will load sites - most of them - but after that, its really touch and go with each function whether they will work or not - sometimes the video overlay doesn't work or the link feature doesn't work or the image feature doesn't work. I haven't found a page yet where every function will work on the page chosen.

      You must have an early version as I understand the VJ is more stable now.
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      • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
        Originally Posted by papeter View Post

        You must have an early version as I understand the VJ is more stable now.
        Nope. I got the updates. It doesn't work as claimed on any site I have loaded. Yes, it is more stable, but it still has a lot of bugs.

        They are working on it a lot, as I already mentioned.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
      Originally Posted by Gary Pettit View Post

      Thanks for updating me guys....what about getting traffic to these pages?
      If you are asking if VJ has some kind of traffic generation feature, no, it does not. You'll have to drive traffic to it just like you would to any other site. VJ is just a development tool really.

      Chris and Andrew Fox are some good guys by the way. They just have their work cut out for them this time. I'm hoping they can get things figured out enough to make this a truly useful tool.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pestew
    I wish they would have launched this on the WF, then we could at least ask them direct questions and get deeper information.

    Joan, would you say the the software just copies the layout of a single website page, but not any of the operating software on the page and hit or miss with the existing links?
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    • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
      Originally Posted by Pestew View Post

      Joan, would you say the the software just copies the layout of a single website page, but not any of the operating software on the page and hit or miss with the existing links?
      What it does is load a single page of any website you choose for editing and replacing video, text, images and links, but some sites it will not load properly, so my guess is that the code of some sites interfere with the plugin's functions. It doesn't try to load any of the operating software on the page to my knowledge, but I could be wrong about that.

      If any of the nav menu tabs are clicked, then it redirects to the actual website unless you change the nav links, which you can do with this.

      You could load every page of a small site if you wanted to and then change out all of the navigation links and other internal links and basically hijack an entire site.

      But as I mentioned, the plugin has a lot of bugs currently and it is definitely hit or miss with regard to the links and everything else, the only exception being textual changes, which it does flawlessly.
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        • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
          Originally Posted by Digi Agent View Post

          Hi Joan, thank you for the heads up !!!

          I'm wondering why the promoters don't admit it's a beta version and ask for testers before claiming stuff like - "I started using Video Jacker and was stunned at how within seconds it can take over ANY website at all."

          At least I've learned an other "flag" to look for - the "within seconds" results claim...
          They released it as an early bird offer through Todd Gross and Paul Lynch (Easy Sketch Pro) in webinars and Todd was clear that the video overlay only worked about 70% of the time for him. Andrew Fox said they had some issues to work out, and I believe they felt they would have everything mostly bug free by launch.

          They really are working on this and welcome feedback so they can tackle these issues. They've released several updates already which helped with some of the bugs. They still have some tough ones to deal with and I don't know what the outcome will be, but if they do fix everything, the result will be closer to what they claim.

          It does load any page you submit within seconds and you can begin changing things right away. The interface is a bit odd to work with, but much better than when I first purchased it.

          So if it sounds like I am warning people off, I'm not really, only to the impatient who think it is going to work as claimed right now out of the box. These sellers do honor their guarantees, so if you have some patience, you could give it a go. The whole concept and potential of this thing is really exciting.

          If they work out the issues, this is going to be one bad ass tool to have in your arsenal, no doubt about it.

          I shelled out almost $100 for this and I'm not seeking a refund yet, and won't unless it becomes clear they won't be able to get most of the issues fixed.
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    • Profile picture of the author GlenH
      Originally Posted by Pestew View Post

      I wish they would have launched this on the WF, then we could at least ask them direct questions and get deeper information.

      Joan, would you say the the software just copies the layout of a single website page, but not any of the operating software on the page and hit or miss with the existing links?
      It annoys the hell out of me when marketers release a product, and they don't provide a way of communicating with them to ask any pre-sales questions.

      Seems like they don't want communicate with prospects to answer questions before they buy

      I see this happening a lot now with so many new product releases
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      • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
        Originally Posted by GlenH View Post

        It annoys the hell out of me when marketers release a product, and they don't provide a way of communicating with them to ask any pre-sales questions.

        Seems like they don't want communicate with prospects to answer questions before they buy

        I see this happening a lot now with so many new product releases
        I thought you were mistaken about this because they have a support link at the bottom of their sales page, but I just checked and it's not a link, just text, so you are right. No way to contact them first before you buy. That's bad business.

        As for use, it has different applications. We purchased it to use as a quick mockup tool and live editor for testing, but because it can't currently change image logos, rollover images, or featured images linking to internal pages, it is useless for us until and if they can fix these things.

        And yup, agree wholeheartedly with Garth8 about the copyright/infringement dangers with this. You could hijack an entire site (or even just one page of a site) and get yourself in some deep doo-doo.
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    • Profile picture of the author Doiron
      Originally Posted by LV View Post

      Greetings,
      I was bombarded by 10000's affil emails to buy videojacker. Where is it sold?
      If you received thousands of affiliate emails about this, just click on the link in one of them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Pettit
    Hi Joan Altz.... the webiste shows only $47 for unlimited websites but you said you paid almost $100. Was that because of the upsells you purchased with it or did they just lower the price of the front end product to $47?
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    • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
      Originally Posted by Gary Pettit View Post

      Hi Joan Altz.... the webiste shows only $47 for unlimited websites but you said you paid almost $100. Was that because of the upsells you purchased with it or did they just lower the price of the front end product to $47?
      The $97 early bird package some of us bought into contained an additional plugin called Content Jacker and a Video Jacker WP theme as part of the deal. So yeah, basically, they just packed a couple of other products with VJ and called it an exclusive offer, but in reality we paid for those two products outright. Had I known the core offer was going to only be $47, I wouldn't have purchased the "exclusive" offer (exclusive, I guess, because they are not offering those two products at all [no upsells] after you purchase VJ).
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom22
        Originally Posted by Joan Altz View Post

        The $97 early bird package some of us bought into contained an additional plugin called Content Jacker and a Video Jacker WP theme as part of the deal. So yeah, basically, they just packed a couple of other products with VJ and called it an exclusive offer, but in reality we paid for those two products outright. Had I known the core offer was going to only be $47, I wouldn't have purchased the "exclusive" offer (exclusive, I guess, because they are not offering those two products at all [no upsells] after you purchase VJ).
        Here are the products from their JV page:
        VJ single domain $29 - $69
        VJ unlimited domain $69 - $99
        Upsell 1 - Video Curation Tool $49
        Downsell 1 - Lite Video Curation Tool $29
        Upsell 2 - App Builder Tool $67
        Downsell 2 - Lite VJ Custom Theme $29
        Upsell 3 - Custom Theme $39

        The potential money for an affiliate explains why so many of the big marketers are pushing this hard and offering large bonuses. In my experience, most of them don't get the product in advance and thoroughly test it before marketing it. They simply see great potential in getting a launch to their list before the competition does and offering sufficient bonuses to get their customers to buy through them. In other words, it's best not to rely upon their enthusiastic endorsement as your only due diligence.
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        • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
          Originally Posted by Tom22 View Post

          Here are the products from their JV page:
          VJ single domain $29 - $69
          VJ unlimited domain $69 - $99
          Upsell 1 - Video Curation Tool $49
          Downsell 1 - Lite Video Curation Tool $29
          Upsell 2 - App Builder Tool $67
          Downsell 2 - Lite VJ Custom Theme $29
          Upsell 3 - Custom Theme $39

          The potential money for an affiliate explains why so many of the big marketers are pushing this hard and offering large bonuses. In my experience, most of them don't get the product in advance and thoroughly test it before marketing it. They simply see great potential in getting a launch to their list before the competition does and offering sufficient bonuses to get their customers to buy through them. In other words, it's best not to rely upon their enthusiastic endorsement as your only due diligence.
          Exactly. It's all about the money for the affiliates. In my case it was a Todd Gross and Andrew Fox webinar presentation and demo of the software. Both Todd and Andrew admitted to it having a few issues, and in the demo the plugin worked great and it was a convincing sell.

          Of course, now it's obvious they chose sites for the demo where they would have no issues pop up during the presentation.
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  • Profile picture of the author eximman
    Is this the same Video Jacker that VIP Marketing Lounge people had launched
    almost 2 years ago ???
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    • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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      Originally Posted by eximman View Post

      Is this the same Video Jacker that VIP Marketing Lounge people had launched
      almost 2 years ago ???
      No it's not. Cheers.

      -don
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  • Profile picture of the author halbertech
    Site scrapers will never significantly increase traffic or sales. The number 1 reason...tricking/gimmicking prospective clients doesn't build trust, therefore not a viable, long-term strategy for building a sustainable online business.

    Best of luck w/ VJ!
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  • Profile picture of the author Garth8
    At first I thought it was an interesting concept, but the more I look at it, the more it seems like a really bad idea and somewhat dishonest marketing.

    First, I think they are taking advantage of the inexperienced in presenting it as if you are putting your stuff on someone else's site (no, they don't exactly say that, but less attentive people will think that - look at the last testimonial where the guy says, he didn't save his pages because he didn't want to change their site), which is ridiculous, you are just stealing their design and content for a single page on your own site, which presents several problems.

    First, they try and protect themselves by mentioning offhand that you should get the site owners permission. Good luck getting any successful site owner to say, "sure, make a copy of my page and change it however you want." I see this leading to a lot of cease and desist letters and probably a few lawsuits.

    Second, to avoid legal problems, you pretty much have to replace all the content on the page, including logos, images, links, videos, etc. It would be easier to create a page from scratch.

    Third, now you've finally got your page up, legal and looking good. Where's the traffic? (Sound of crickets) Time to get to work promoting the page.

    Now you've got a page that looks nothing like any other page on your site. If you use the plugin a lot, every page on your site now looks completely different. Good luck with your long term branding.

    Then the OTO is Content Jacker, which is actually a more useful plugin than the misnomered Video Jacker, but they promote it as the perfect compliment to Video Jacker so you can grab great content to post on your Video Jacker pages. Um, you can't post content to Video Jacker pages, you can only post to other pages which will look completely different to your Video Jacker pages. The OTO is about as unrelated to the main offer as it can be (but as I said, at least it is useful and won't get you sued).

    Sorry, but somebody had to say it. I received so many affiliate promotions on this thing. People, please think it through a little before you promote something. Your reputation is on the line.

    p.s. For $10, it would be a fun toy to play with, but I just don't see the value for a legitimate business (who respects copyright law).
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    • Profile picture of the author GlenH
      Originally Posted by Garth8 View Post

      At first I thought it was an interesting concept, but the more I look at it, the more it seems like a really bad idea and somewhat dishonest marketing.

      First, I think they are taking advantage of the inexperienced in presenting it as if you are putting your stuff on someone else's site (no, they don't exactly say that, but less attentive people will think that - look at the last testimonial where the guy says, he didn't save his pages because he didn't want to change their site), which is ridiculous, you are just stealing their design and content for a single page on your own site, which presents several problems.

      First, they try and protect themselves by mentioning offhand that you should get the site owners permission. Good luck getting any successful site owner to say, "sure, make a copy of my page and change it however you want." I see this leading to a lot of cease and desist letters and probably a few lawsuits.

      Second, to avoid legal problems, you pretty much have to replace all the content on the page, including logos, images, links, videos, etc. It would be easier to create a page from scratch.

      Third, now you've finally got your page up, legal and looking good. Where's the traffic? (Sound of crickets) Time to get to work promoting the page.

      Now you've got a page that looks nothing like any other page on your site. If you use the plugin a lot, every page on your site now looks completely different. Good luck with your long term branding.

      Then the OTO is Content Jacker, which is actually a more useful plugin than the misnomered Video Jacker, but they promote it as the perfect compliment to Video Jacker so you can grab great content to post on your Video Jacker pages. Um, you can't post content to Video Jacker pages, you can only post to other pages which will look completely different to your Video Jacker pages. The OTO is about as unrelated to the main offer as it can be (but as I said, at least it is useful and won't get you sued).

      Sorry, but somebody had to say it. I received so many affiliate promotions on this thing. People, please think it through a little before you promote something. Your reputation is on the line.

      p.s. For $10, it would be a fun toy to play with, but I just don't see the value for a legitimate business (who respects copyright law).
      You've nailed it with all those observations.

      I agree with every one of them
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    • Profile picture of the author halbertech
      Originally Posted by Garth8 View Post

      At first I thought it was an interesting concept, but the more I look at it, the more it seems like a really bad idea and somewhat dishonest marketing.

      First, I think they are taking advantage of the inexperienced in presenting it as if you are putting your stuff on someone else's site (no, they don't exactly say that, but less attentive people will think that - look at the last testimonial where the guy says, he didn't save his pages because he didn't want to change their site), which is ridiculous, you are just stealing their design and content for a single page on your own site, which presents several problems.

      First, they try and protect themselves by mentioning offhand that you should get the site owners permission. Good luck getting any successful site owner to say, "sure, make a copy of my page and change it however you want." I see this leading to a lot of cease and desist letters and probably a few lawsuits.

      Second, to avoid legal problems, you pretty much have to replace all the content on the page, including logos, images, links, videos, etc. It would be easier to create a page from scratch.

      Third, now you've finally got your page up, legal and looking good. Where's the traffic? (Sound of crickets) Time to get to work promoting the page.

      Now you've got a page that looks nothing like any other page on your site. If you use the plugin a lot, every page on your site now looks completely different. Good luck with your long term branding.

      Then the OTO is Content Jacker, which is actually a more useful plugin than the misnomered Video Jacker, but they promote it as the perfect compliment to Video Jacker so you can grab great content to post on your Video Jacker pages. Um, you can't post content to Video Jacker pages, you can only post to other pages which will look completely different to your Video Jacker pages. The OTO is about as unrelated to the main offer as it can be (but as I said, at least it is useful and won't get you sued).

      Sorry, but somebody had to say it. I received so many affiliate promotions on this thing. People, please think it through a little before you promote something. Your reputation is on the line.

      p.s. For $10, it would be a fun toy to play with, but I just don't see the value for a legitimate business (who respects copyright law).
      Garth8...thank you for keepin' it 100!
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    • Profile picture of the author Craig Kaiser
      Originally Posted by Garth8 View Post

      At first I thought it was an interesting concept, but the more I look at it, the more it seems like a really bad idea and somewhat dishonest marketing.

      First, I think they are taking advantage of the inexperienced in presenting it as if you are putting your stuff on someone else's site (no, they don't exactly say that, but less attentive people will think that - look at the last testimonial where the guy says, he didn't save his pages because he didn't want to change their site), which is ridiculous, you are just stealing their design and content for a single page on your own site, which presents several problems.

      First, they try and protect themselves by mentioning offhand that you should get the site owners permission. Good luck getting any successful site owner to say, "sure, make a copy of my page and change it however you want." I see this leading to a lot of cease and desist letters and probably a few lawsuits.

      Second, to avoid legal problems, you pretty much have to replace all the content on the page, including logos, images, links, videos, etc. It would be easier to create a page from scratch.

      Third, now you've finally got your page up, legal and looking good. Where's the traffic? (Sound of crickets) Time to get to work promoting the page.

      Now you've got a page that looks nothing like any other page on your site. If you use the plugin a lot, every page on your site now looks completely different. Good luck with your long term branding.

      Then the OTO is Content Jacker, which is actually a more useful plugin than the misnomered Video Jacker, but they promote it as the perfect compliment to Video Jacker so you can grab great content to post on your Video Jacker pages. Um, you can't post content to Video Jacker pages, you can only post to other pages which will look completely different to your Video Jacker pages. The OTO is about as unrelated to the main offer as it can be (but as I said, at least it is useful and won't get you sued).

      Sorry, but somebody had to say it. I received so many affiliate promotions on this thing. People, please think it through a little before you promote something. Your reputation is on the line.

      p.s. For $10, it would be a fun toy to play with, but I just don't see the value for a legitimate business (who respects copyright law).
      Couldn't have said that better myself. I told a marketer that sent me a promo email for this product pretty much the same thing and told him if I ever catch someone "jacking" one of my sites and stealing my copyrighted content, logo, images, ect., I will sue them into submission.

      It's too bad that the originators of this software didn't spend more time creating a truly useful and ethical software that would help marketers instead of coming up with yet another blackhat "hack" to make a quick buck ( Judging from all the upsells and downsells and otos, more than just a quick buck) instead of something that would build real value in a real business.

      Once this software gets abused, and it will, marketers will suffer and the originators of the software will find their reputations damaged. It's a shame too. Of course, that's just my opinion.
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      • Profile picture of the author GlenH
        Originally Posted by Craig Kaiser View Post

        Couldn't have said that better myself. I told a marketer that sent me a promo email for this product pretty much the same thing and told him if I ever catch someone "jacking" one of my sites and stealing my copyrighted content, logo, images, ect., I will sue them into submission.

        It's too bad that the originators of this software didn't spend more time creating a truly useful and ethical software that would help marketers instead of coming up with yet another blackhat "hack" to make a quick buck ( Judging from all the upsells and downsells and otos, more than just a quick buck) instead of something that would build real value in a real business.

        Once this software gets abused, and it will, marketers will suffer and the originators of the software will find their reputations damaged. It's a shame too.
        I totally agree...

        Particularly with this...

        Once this software gets abused, and it will, marketers will suffer and the originators of the software will find their reputations damaged. It's a shame too.
        As sure as night follows day, users will abuse this app. big time. They won't care.

        And when the trail leads back to the product developers, it won't be pleasant for them
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  • Profile picture of the author NetDame
    Hi,

    I have bought Video Jacker for a legit way of using it (when it works completely as advertised): for local marketing, when I want to propose some video or other feature on a web site of a local business to help them understand how my proposal will integrate into their website.

    In this case, it helps provide a customized example and help close a deal.

    I wish you success,
    Sophie
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    • Profile picture of the author Garth8
      Originally Posted by NetDame View Post

      Hi,

      I have bought Video Jacker for a legit way of using it (when it works completely as advertised): for local marketing, when I want to propose some video or other feature on a web site of a local business to help them understand how my proposal will integrate into their website.

      In this case, it helps provide a customized example and help close a deal.
      That is one good practical application of this plugin. If you actually use it, it will be worth it. Unfortunately, the market of people who could use it in that capacity like yourself is too small to create the buying frenzy they want, so it is barely mentioned in the sales page.
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      • Profile picture of the author sohosources
        Danger:

        Even if you "jack" a local business website for the exclusive purpose of showing the site owner alternative layouts/features, and you do so without advance permission, you're still almost certainly violating copyright.

        You might do this successfully a few times -- or even a few hundred times -- but with penalties as high as $150,000 per violation, it's just not worth it.

        IMO, there are few, if any, legit uses for a product such as this...and I suspect that almost everyone who uses it will put themselves at risk. Think Getty Images, etc.

        If you want to use an existing design as an "inspiration," feel free. But if you simply want to "jack" someone else's work for fun and profit, take a long look in the mirror and ask yourself whether you're in the right business

        I'd also consider unsubbing from anyone who promoted this thing.

        --sohosources
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    • Profile picture of the author tulsatech
      Originally Posted by NetDame View Post

      Hi,

      I have bought Video Jacker for a legit way of using it (when it works completely as advertised): for local marketing, when I want to propose some video or other feature on a web site of a local business to help them understand how my proposal will integrate into their website.

      In this case, it helps provide a customized example and help close a deal.

      I wish you success,
      Sophie
      This is a good idea for getting offline clients. So, if I understand correctly, you can approach a business that has an older style website and show them what their homepage looks like using Video Jacker?
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  • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
    Email from the boys...

    You can now upgrade your Video Jacker to version 1.32

    This resolve a few bugs people were facing
    and a 404 issue as well that happened
    when some customers entered in links.

    With so many different hosting environments
    it can sometimes cause issues.

    We will continue to update until it is running
    smooth for everyone.

    Just to make you aware I wont be contacting you
    with every version update.

    Please assume we will be updating every single
    day or twice a day for the next 7-10 days :-)


    Enjoy :-)

    Chris Fox
    Andrew Fox
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    • Profile picture of the author jemacb
      Garth8 is correct in my opinion.

      From my experience, these solutions are filled with bugs and it may be wise to 'sit' for a while and wait for the developers to iron out these bugs. That is of course if you really want to purchase it.

      Just my 2 cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author IM WebMedia
    Hey guys great feedback here and really appreciate the honest reviews..I bought it was wondering about the OTO...is it worth getting the OTO? for those who bought the CJ please let us know what you think..thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author GlenH
      Originally Posted by ala View Post

      citation: " Q: Is Video Jacker Legal?
      Yes if used correctly. If you are replicating somebody's website we always recommend you request permission from the owner first."

      hm... i just send mail to CNNN and ask him can I scrape they site and can I use they graphic and content... this is not good idea

      which site owner get You permission? Anyone!
      There's no way in the world, anyone with high ranked and popular web site will every give you permission to 'clone' it no matter what promises you made to extensively edit it.

      And I can see a lot of marketers getting into deep legal S_ _t from the original site owners.

      As someone said....it's a very light warning on the VJ sale page about seeking permission for the original site owners.
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    • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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      Originally Posted by ala View Post

      citation: " Q: Is Video Jacker Legal?
      Yes if used correctly. If you are replicating somebody's website we always recommend you request permission from the owner first."

      hm... i just send mail to CNNN and ask him can I scrape they site and can I use they graphic and content... this is not good idea

      which site owner get You permission? Anyone!
      CNN already says you are not allowed to exploit their content in any way --> and the chances of you getting permission from them are ZERO.

      By using CNN.com, you agree to comply with all of the terms and conditions hereof. If you do not agree to these Terms of Service, you should not access or use CNN.com.
      3. Copyright Ownership.
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  • If you're serious about "re-purposing" somebody's copyrighted website go with free software that's got some real power. My 1st choice is the HTTrack Website Copier. It's updated regularly and has been continuously for at least 12 years (that's when I discovered it).
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  • Profile picture of the author Donald Truehart
    Yep, the software is extremely buggy.
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    • Profile picture of the author GlenH
      Originally Posted by Donald Truehart View Post

      Yep, the software is extremely buggy.
      I've heard this little speech by some big time marketers......" just get your product out there....it doesn't have to be perfect...just get it out there and make sales"

      The problem is, if you're selling a software application that statement is BS.

      Being a software developer myself, I won't release any software product onto the market until it's been tested every which way possible and is totally reliable.

      These guys obviously did not do that, preferring to get their product onto the market to make some money, and then worrying about any problems or bugs as they came up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Doiron
    This product looks interesting but I held back on pulling the trigger mainly because I couldn't figure out an ethical reason to use it. I suppose you could copy the whole page just for the sake of the format and then change all the headings, text and images - but wouldn't it be easier just to build a page from scratch?

    The reported bugs are a concern, too. Not so much because of problems with the software but because of marketers who are pushing this product and claiming it works just fine. I've had emails like that and I don't believe they're being dishonest but it does speak to their diligence in testing, and therefore their judgment. Bit of a red flag.
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    • Profile picture of the author Craig Kaiser
      This product looks interesting but I held back on pulling the trigger mainly because I couldn't figure out an ethical reason to use it.
      I don't see any real, ethical reason to use the software. It's a shortcut and just another software tool that is supposed to help marketers make money with no work - by using other people's work and intellectual property. The owners of the software even admit the ethical considerations of the software in a disclaimer in tiny letters at the bottom of their website :

      "Disclaimer: Video Jacker must be used responsibly and at your own risk. Before replicating any website we strongly recommend contacting the site owner to request permission. We are not liable for any actions you take by using Video Jacker."

      You can come to your own conclusions, and I'm not a lawyer, but my gut feeling is when marketers start to rip off copyrighted website content and the s**t hits the fan, that statement is not going to do the software creators much good.

      I'm not trying to bash anybody or any software, but there are real ethical and legal implications in using this tool that marketers, especially newbies, need to know before they embark on a path that could lead to all sorts of problems for them.

      Again, just my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author WFDUDE
    Hey Craig, your absolutely right. Selling on Semantics and misleading, to a point, when dealing with legal issues is a real crappy way to market. Changing a couple aspects of the site does not make it "white hat" and legal. This tool is illegal on every level and the people who created it are thieves on both ends.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rus Sells
    There was a day when WSO's that broke the rules or TOS of other sites or were just downright infringed were banned. Not any more though.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
      Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

      There was a day when WSO's that broke the rules or TOS of other sites or were just downright infringed were banned. Not any more though.
      The product is not being sold as a WSO.
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      Would be nice if we could get this thread back on track to the point of the thread - for buyers of the product to give their review about it.

      Some good opinions about ethical considerations has been posted, and I agree with some of them, but enough already.
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    • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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      Originally Posted by Rus Sells View Post

      There was a day when WSO's that broke the rules or TOS of other sites or were just downright infringed were banned. Not any more though.
      While this product is not a WSO I have been told by Paul Myers that a decision was made some time ago to allow offers that broke the ToS of other sites. He says he was not in favor of the decision, and of course I am not either.

      It's a poor decision that hopefully Freelancer will change when they rewrite the WSO rules, which they are doing now.

      As far as more grayhat and blackhat stuff getting posted as WSOs, I believe you are correct. Before Freelancer took over a lot of this stuff was getting bounced but not so much anymore. Also, when you reported copyright violations, and banned users that are back posting under a new username, they were usually dealt with quickly, but that's not the case anymore.

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  • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
    An update on how it's working for me....It's not.

    The frequent updates these sellers are doing have made things worse instead of better, imo.

    I tried to load one of our sites using the plugin, and now not only does the video overlay not work, but the plugin can't even load the original video onto the page.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ethiccash
    What is probably the most shocking is that people buy that kind of product even if they have no idea what to do with it: why in the world would you risk lawsuit to copy CNN or steal content or clone a website that anyway will never get any traffic. OK, you can clone the landing page used by people advertising on porn networks to save some time :-)
    BTW, there's a free way to taking this risk: file / save as. And you end up with the full website downloaded.

    I don't blame the product creator as long as he can manage to find thousands of people to buy this. But why in the world do people buy such product. Words fail me...
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  • Profile picture of the author awww1some
    I agree on the traffic issue but also about getting permission from the site owner.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheAdsenseGuy
    This kind of tool is used for paid traffic so the argument that each page would be different on your site doesn't matter. Most media buyer guys will have their own site and it will have dozens of different landing pages - not a full content site.

    The million dollar question is: Does this just Iframe another website page or does it copy it and does the page text show up in the source code. If so, then you will be able to send most types of paid traffic to it. If not, it's useless. If the content is Iframed there really won't be any content showing up in the source code. So most paid traffic sources won't approve the campaign.

    Can anyone who uses this tell me if all the text shows up in the source code of your page?

    Guys who do media buys or other paid traffic are always creating new landing pages. This really would save a ton of time.

    But if it's buggy and doesn't work... oh well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
      Originally Posted by TheAdsenseGuy View Post

      This kind of tool is used for paid traffic so the argument that each page would be different on your site doesn't matter. Most media buyer guys will have their own site and it will have dozens of different landing pages - not a full content site.

      The million dollar question is: Does this just Iframe another website page or does it copy it and does the page text show up in the source code. If so, then you will be able to send most types of paid traffic to it. If not, it's useless. If the content is Iframed there really won't be any content showing up in the source code. So most paid traffic sources won't approve the campaign.

      Can anyone who uses this tell me if all the text shows up in the source code of your page?

      Guys who do media buys or other paid traffic are always creating new landing pages. This really would save a ton of time.

      But if it's buggy and doesn't work... oh well.
      Only the original text shows up on a saved page (source code), not the changed text.

      It's really, really buggy anyhow.
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      • Profile picture of the author eezymoney
        Originally Posted by Joan Altz View Post

        Only the original text shows up on a saved page (source code), not the changed text.

        It's really, really buggy anyhow.
        So, you make the alterations to the page, save them and publish them.

        Then you look at the code of the saved page and it's still showing the original page code??

        How do the alterations you make get applied to the final page produced by VJ? Are you saying that none of the changes you make will actually stick?

        Have I got that right?
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        • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
          Originally Posted by eezymoney View Post

          So, you make the alterations to the page, save them and publish them.

          Then you look at the code of the saved page and it's still showing the original page code??

          How do the alterations you make get applied to the final page produced by VJ? Are you saying that none of the changes you make will actually stick?

          Have I got that right?
          I don't know how it works exactly, but the source code still shows the original text, even when the text is changed and the page saved with the new text.

          Another thing: The entire site code shows up all on line 1 when viewing the source code, except for the VJ script code. And the VJ script code consists of jquery, javascript, and css. That's it.
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  • Profile picture of the author eezymoney
    Sound like a pile of rubbish.

    There's no way google's going to rank that duplicated nonsense. I'm surprised the plugins creators aren't chiming in here to defend their product...

    You would be better as previously mentioned to use a free the free httrack and then edit the code with a html/css editor of your choice.
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    • Profile picture of the author Emir Hayric
      Originally Posted by TopRated1 View Post

      removed.........................
      Can't say I blame them. Even though the premise of this product is pretty dicey I often buy other products so I can turn around and use them to make profit directly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Donald Truehart
    There are actually some ethical ways to use it, but its a moot point since it doesn't work as advertised. I was trying to hold out on asking for a refund, hoping that the updates would fix it, but as was previously stated its only getting worse.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarlonKS
    Hey Guys,

    Check this out!

    Video Jacker Software WARNING
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    • Profile picture of the author Joan Altz
      Originally Posted by macna View Post

      There is No money back guarantee am I correct
      You can get a refund, sure. Some have already and the refund rate across the board is rising slowly.

      3000+ copies sold, collectively, and about 100 refunds so far.
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      • Profile picture of the author GlenH
        Originally Posted by Joan Altz View Post

        You can get a refund, sure. Some have already and the refund rate across the board is rising slowly.

        3000+ copies sold, collectively, and about 100 refunds so far.
        That's mind boggling ....3000 sales!

        I cannot believe people can't see the massive legal implications that can befall anyone who uses this as demonstrated. I really don't see any 'safe' way of using this app.
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        • Profile picture of the author Craig Kaiser
          Originally Posted by GlenH View Post

          That's mind boggling ....3000 sales!

          I cannot believe people can't see the massive legal implications that can befall anyone who uses this as demonstrated. I really don't see any 'safe' way of using this app.
          Just goes to show you how many people out there :

          1. Are always looking for a quick, easy way to make a buck, even if it means leveraging off someone else's hard work so they don't have to (work).
          2. Foolishly think it's ok to take anything they want from the Internet, because after all, if it's on the Internet, it's free, right?
          3. Have no idea what copyright means, and no idea of the serious legal consequences that could result from their actions.

          There is no ethical, or legal, in my opinion, use for this software. Only if you could actually get permission from someone stupid enough to hand over their hard and probably expensive work to a total stranger to do whatever they want with it. Good luck with that. KingHumanElite nailed it right on the head with his video. There's 3000 + people who are probably going to do something foolish and when the lawsuits start to roll, all hell is going to break loose.

          My recommendation is to stay away from this software. Don't get yourself in trouble.

          As I said before, if I catch someone "jacking" one of my sites with this software, I'll not only sue the person doing the jacking, but I'll recommend to the person I'm suing to go after the software maker. My intellectual property is MINE, and I have a full page copyright legal document on my sites to spell that out. Most other sites worth anything will have those too.
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          • Profile picture of the author GlenH
            Originally Posted by Craig Kaiser View Post

            Just goes to show you how many people out there :

            1. Are always looking for a quick, easy way to make a buck, even if it means leveraging off someone else's hard work so they don't have to (work).
            2. Foolishly think it's ok to take anything they want from the Internet, because after all, if it's on the Internet, it's free, right?
            3. Have no idea what copyright means, and no idea of the serious legal consequences that could result from their actions.

            There is no ethical, or legal, in my opinion, use for this software. Only if you could actually get permission from someone stupid enough to hand over their hard and probably expensive work to a total stranger to do whatever they want with it. Good luck with that. KingHumanElite nailed it right on the head with his video. There's 3000 + people who are probably going to do something foolish and when the lawsuits start to roll, all hell is going to break loose.

            My recommendation is to stay away from this software. Don't get yourself in trouble.

            As I said before, if I catch someone "jacking" one of my sites with this software, I'll not only sue the person doing the jacking, but I'll recommend to the person I'm suing to go after the software maker. My intellectual property is MINE, and I have a full page copyright legal document on my sites to spell that out. Most other sites worth anything will have those too.
            You absolutely said it all Craig....
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            • Profile picture of the author Penn86
              Thanks for starting this review thread and the many poignant comments! I considered buying it today, being last day apparently before price triples, but there are too many risks involved.... like KH says it's putting up a counterfeit site which surely can lead to legal troubles. Plus, not having a support contact link on the sales page to answer questions raised a big flag. Good luck warriors.
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              • Profile picture of the author Emir Hayric
                Originally Posted by Penn86 View Post

                Thanks for starting this review thread and the many poignant comments! I considered buying it today, being last day apparently before price triples, but there are too many risks involved.... like KH says it's putting up a counterfeit site which surely can lead to legal troubles. Plus, not having a support contact link on the sales page to answer questions raised a big flag. Good luck warriors.
                Either that is a bs scarcity tactic or they are feeling the pressure and will be pulling the product soon.
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        • Profile picture of the author tulsatech
          Originally Posted by GlenH View Post

          That's mind boggling ....3000 sales!

          I cannot believe people can't see the massive legal implications that can befall anyone who uses this as demonstrated. I really don't see any 'safe' way of using this app.
          This software is already being shared on blackhat websites. Not surprising that blackhat marketers love this type of stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrmatiesto
    All I can say is if one of these folks jacks any of my site he better be sitting on a pile of cash I will have them in court before they can say jack flash.
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      Originally Posted by gruffa View Post

      Hey, I'm new here. BTW, how DO I 'thank' people for posts? ..I can't find where to do it..

      James
      Welcome. You won't see have a thanks button visible until you reach a certain number of posts.

      Cheers

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  • Profile picture of the author TheAdsenseGuy
    Let's say you want to download someones landing page and they have a video on it. Does this software pull down their video too?
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  • Profile picture of the author Howlerckc
    IMHO, I do not think they would like someone jacking their software. Just put a wrapper around it changing a button or two and calling it original.
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    • Profile picture of the author thecableguy
      When I first saw VJ I was thinking "No Way", just stealing content, but I wish I had thought of this sooner. What if you use it to "Jack" sites that belong to you.

      A lot of plugin developers sell multiple licenses single site or multiple sites. What if you got the single site license, installed VJ on your other domains and just iframed the site with the single site license? You could make different pages to different offers to "Jack". Sure for just one single site license it's probably not worth it, but I've run into many of them with OTO "upgrades" not mentioned in the salesletter. Won't work for every single site license plugin, but I can think of a number that it would work on. Opinions?
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      • Profile picture of the author Howlerckc
        Originally Posted by thecableguy View Post

        When I first saw VJ I was thinking "No Way", just stealing content, but I wish I had thought of this sooner. What if you use it to "Jack" sites that belong to you.

        A lot of plugin developers sell multiple licenses single site or multiple sites. What if you got the single site license, installed VJ on your other domains and just iframed the site with the single site license? You could make different pages to different offers to "Jack". Sure for just one single site license it's probably not worth it, but I've run into many of them with OTO "upgrades" not mentioned in the salesletter. Won't work for every single site license plugin, but I can think of a number that it would work on. Opinions?
        I can see using it for Split Testing, making small tweaks on each page then seeing which one has the best response. That's a good idea, however not at the price they are wanting.
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        • Profile picture of the author thecableguy
          Originally Posted by Howlerckc View Post

          That's a good idea, however not at the price they are wanting.
          That's why I wish I could've thought of it sooner when the early bird pricing was still available. Just got a plugin that failed to mention that an upgrade would be needed to use it on multiple sites that VJ would be perfect for.
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          • Profile picture of the author spainops
            Hi,

            Getting an error with VJ - anyone else ?

            When creating any campaign - The requested URL /testdemo/gorillaevolution/crawl_webpage.php was not found on this server.Additionally, a 404 Not Founderror was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request."
            Using latest version - 1.48

            Raised a support ticket a couple of days ago - still waiting to hear

            Si
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            • Profile picture of the author ruyaski
              I got error the same massages as you. I emailed to vjsupport@video-jacker.com . There is no response yet. I saw his sale page still active at $29.
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  • Profile picture of the author masterwolf
    Does this product work at all? I have tried to install it twice on two different servers. IT returns nothing more than a 404 error on both.
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