Can 50 hits enough validate your startup?

by sdlive
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if 50 people saw your website would that be enough to validate your idea? meaning..no marketing done. just let it spread through word of mouth
#hits #startup #validate
  • Profile picture of the author Kelvin Chan
    Short answer, no.

    But to be honest, you'll be better off providing more context to your question so others can better answer you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Luke Dennison
    300 might be better sign mate.
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  • Profile picture of the author vishwa
    There is no limit on counts I can say. Every body looking for thousands or millions of hits per day. But for that you have to work hard.
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  • Profile picture of the author RogozRazvan
    No.

    While this is based on your niche, the average number is around 1000 unique visitors.
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  • Profile picture of the author Resource9
    I agree. 1000 unique visitors is a standard number for getting the right response for your website.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Resource9 View Post

      1000 unique visitors is a standard number for getting the right response for your website.
      Where do people get these completely context-free, meaningless "statistics" from? And why do they regurgitate them here?!

      (The number of visits required to achieve statistical significance varies hugely, according to the context and parameters monitored.)

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      • Profile picture of the author savidge4
        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        Where do people get these completely context-free, meaningless "statistics" from? And why do they regurgitate them here?!

        (The number of visits required to achieve statistical significance varies hugely, according to the context and parameters monitored.)

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        People come up with context identified meaningful numbers from people like me that read and understand articles such as these:

        12 A/B Split Testing Mistakes Businesses Make All The Time

        Please note with this article they actually are using the number of conversions as the base, but read a bit deeper as in circled in red and says "set this number to 1000 if not more" and focus on the content surrounding this, and they are showing the difference in testing from 100 users across a test and 1000 across the same test, and there is a 100 point swing by the end of the test, and the 100 visitor looser turns out to be the 1000 visitor winner.

        http://ilarjournal.oxfordjournals.or...t/32/1/11.full

        Granted this piece is not speaking about digital number analysis in particular, it is more about human and animal study, but there is a great break down of the MATH involved in determining proper test size. most important to note here is the description and detail about "Gausian Data" its shape etc and qualities in a data chart you are looking for.

        https://vwo.com/blog/how-to-calculat...t-sample-size/

        Speaking of Gausian, this article actually displays what that "looks" like, and goes into more specific detail on the variables at play etc.

        https://vwo.com/blog/ab-test-duration-calculator/

        A gift. No need to understand all of that math. The above link is to a page that just so happens to have a download of a excel spreadsheet that will take a minimum number of variables, and tell you how many days based on your sites traffic you will need, to run a quality test.

        So with all of that... the answer STANDS you need to run a MINIMUM of 1000 uniques across a static and or a variable change to determine its value.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    Consider 2 elements:

    1. Time.
    2. Volume.

    Throw 10,000 uniques at the platform and, overall, assess your results after at least 30 days. This will give you a fairly accurate picture of what's happening and what needs to be modified.

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    • Profile picture of the author talfighel
      Originally Posted by Get Rich Methods View Post


      Throw 10,000 uniques at the platform and, overall, assess your results after at least 30 days. This will give you a fairly accurate picture of what's happening and what needs to be modified.

      GRM
      I hope you meant, 10,000 unique visitors who are looking for a solution to their problem.

      That would give a good number if his product is good or not.

      Capturing leads and then following up is also very important. The fortune is in the follow up.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
        Originally Posted by talfighel View Post

        I hope you meant, 10,000 unique visitors who are looking for a solution to their problem.

        That would give a good number if his product is good or not.

        Capturing leads and then following up is also very important. The fortune is in the follow up.
        No. I meant throw 10,000 non-English speaking people (who just so happen to be interested in buying video games) at your sales page for the latest Stephen King novel, written in English, and not available (as yet) to the gaming community.

        Wasn't that obvious from my initial post?

        I can't imagine your approach would work at all. Targeted traffic? Madness.

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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    if 50 people saw your website would that be enough to validate your idea? meaning..no marketing done. just let it spread through word of mouth
    No. If 50 people buy from your website, maybe.

    I find great humor in the "I've had 63 visitors and no sales, what am I doing wrong?" type posts. Just an indicator of the totally un-realistic view people have of online marketing.

    OP, drive 1000 targeted visitors to your site. Then analyze your results.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christian Swift
    Hi sdlive,

    I think Alexa has hit the nail on the head nicely above.

    Also remember that it is really not the number of visitors that you get that counts in the long-run, it is the percentage of those visitors which take action and sign up to your mailing list, and eventually buy your products which matters.

    I could get 10K visitors to a crappy website through solo ads or facebook ads fairly easily, but it is the conversion of those visitors into subscribers and customers which matters.

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    • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
      Both Alexa and Brent make good points.

      > There is no magic number to determine statistical significance in every application. One important piece of the puzzle is the size of the group the sample is drawn from. If your business is building fighter jets and your group is "people authorized to approve multibillion dollar government contracts", 50 might be the entire group. In that case, 50 is an excellent number. If your group is 10 million obese middle aged men, and you sell diet pills, 50 is nothing. That's assuming that even those 50 are properly targeted.

      > Too many people think statistics is an exact science. They're told that an offer has an average conversion rate of 2%. So they get frustrated when, after 100 visits, they don't have at least two sales and assume they are doing something wrong. They need to look at the size of the subject universe and the level of confidence in the statistical prediction, and use that to determine sample size. Even then, they may have to take the samples more than once to get a good idea of what's really happening.

      If you flip a coin and record the results, over a very long time the ratio of heads to tails will approach 50:50 with a fair coin. What most don't grasp is that if you take a ten-flip sample, getting all heads or all tails is just as likely as getting exactly five of each.
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  • Profile picture of the author usemyteam
    No not yet. That is just the part of the whole thing. You need to grow that.
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  • Profile picture of the author sdlive
    its for a website idea / possible app..i did a "soft launch" about 100 people saw it..i'd say 25% signed up.. of the 25% about 4% really tried using it..another 4% tried using it once.... the 17% just made an account and didn't even try anything
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by sdlive View Post

      i did a "soft launch" about 100 people saw it..i'd say 25% signed up.. of the 25% about 4% really tried using it..another 4% tried using it once.... the 17% just made an account and didn't even try anything
      My own complete guesses, knowing absolutely nothing of the context at all, are (a) that those may not actually be atypical figures for something free (presumably?), and (b) that your sample-size is probably still too small to be trying to draw any conclusions at all, really. (Much may also depend on the traffic source(s) and on how people were "led" to the opt-in page, too.)

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  • Profile picture of the author JNano
    Even 50 customers is way too low to accurately predict if an idea is TRULY viable. Yes it might be viable now, or for some time.

    But you have to take in consideration different factors before you can make a decision like: Seasonal or note? Platform dependent? Is it based on a trend? Where did the traffic came from? Was it all at once or in a couple of days/weeks? etc.

    Like others have said, you have to take many factors into consideration before you can safely say that this idea works.

    IF there are already competitors doing good, and you know for sure they are doing good, that would help a lot with validating your idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author Manannan
    Quick answer is no im afraid
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  • Profile picture of the author Saywhaaa
    50 hits you shouldn't expect anything. If something happens worth mentioning at that point count yourself lucky.
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