Is GoArticles still recommended?

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In Travis' Bum Marketing guide, he mentions Ezine and GoArticles as the best places to get top search results in google, though I know this was written a while back. From what I've read everywhere else, Ezine is still good, but I don't see much hype about GoArticles......did it lose it's effectiveness over time? I was actually planning on submitting just on GoArticles to start out, being that I can link straight to the product and not have to wait so long for article approval as I would on Ezine. Would this be a bad idea? I'm just looking for the simplest route to start out and get my feet wet with internet marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
    I know in Angela's backlink packages she talks about how it is easier to get a page 1 ranking with GoArticles than with ezinearticles and this was fairly recent, so I think GoArticles is still good.

    Although from memory I think there was a post not too long ago about GoArticles problems so I'm not sure - I would like to hear others advice on this too - are GoArticles still a good choice???
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  • Profile picture of the author yongjj
    You have to try submitting articles to other article directories including Articlecity and etc. You can invest some money on article submission software like Article Post Robot.
    In short, the more articles you submit, the more backlinks you build.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanzona
    I know its easier to get articles approved on Goarticles than EZA.
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  • Profile picture of the author ezimedia
    HI

    It is free so why not do it... for the little time it takes to submit one or a few articles I say yes it is worth it..

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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
    If you are going to use this type of strategy...Piggy-Backing off of a parasites high PR, why not use a site like blogger where you can sell harder and be more commercial?

    Goarticles is link friendly, but so are a lot of the 2.0's.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vanquish
    Use Go articles for backlinking purposes because they tend to rank easier since google likes variety in page 1 and both go articles and ezine are high pr sites.

    While your backlinking also submit another article to ezine for a temoporary boost in traffic because of the large user base.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Morgan
      Goarticles is still good for riding on their hard PR, and because people on the site will copy your articles and repost them elsewhere. Sometimes surprisingly large blogs will republish content from goarticles.
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  • Profile picture of the author kb24
    Go Articles still works you just need massive backlinks to it..
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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
    You can use GoArticles to post your content and then trick the search engines by building tons of high PR backlinks to the articles.

    Problem is, once the search engines realize what's going on (if they haven't already) and they devalue the incoming links to GoArticles (if that's what they do), then you will have nothing but a bunch of articles sitting out there wasting away on an abused and worn article directory.

    As I have said over the years (and not to toot my own horn, but I have been right every time) jumping on bandwagons like this will not last and will eventually leave you scrambling around for the next way to trick the search engines into ranking your content.

    This is just my opinion, but you asked.

    I'd rather lead the crowd than chase them all the time.

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    • Profile picture of the author Vanquish
      Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

      You can use GoArticles to post your content and then trick the search engines by building tons of high PR backlinks to the articles.

      Problem is, once the search engines realize what's going on (if they haven't already) and they devalue the incoming links to GoArticles (if that's what they do), then you will have nothing but a bunch of articles sitting out there wasting away on an abused and worn article directory.

      As I have said over the years (and not to toot my own horn, but I have been right every time) jumping on bandwagons like this will not last and will eventually leave you scrambling around for the next way to trick the search engines into ranking your content.

      This is just my opinion, but you asked.

      I'd rather lead the crowd than chase them all the time.

      Respectfully,
      Allen Graves

      Hasn't it always been about finding a highley searched keyword with low page 1 competition, writing an article and backlinking it until it stays on spot #1 then moving on to the next keyword?
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      • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
        Originally Posted by Vanquish View Post

        Hasn't it always been about finding a highley searched keyword with low page 1 competition, writing an article and backlinking it until it stays on spot #1 then moving on to the next keyword?
        There is an insanely huge difference between building niche-related, appropriate backlinking campaigns...and tricking the search engines.

        There is no fine line between the two.

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        • Profile picture of the author petelta
          Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

          There is an insanely huge difference between building niche-related, appropriate backlinking campaigns...and tricking the search engines.

          There is no fine line between the two.

          Allen
          I don't think I understand whats been done wrong here? What exacty is being done to trick the search engines? Is it bad to submit your blog articles to multiple article directories? I thought thats what I was supposed to be doing, lol. Im new to IM so sorry if this is obvious.

          I would like to do this the right way though and would like to eliminate useless tactics as soon as possible
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          • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
            Originally Posted by petelta View Post

            I don't think I understand whats been done wrong here? What exacty is being done to trick the search engines? Is it bad to submit your blog articles to multiple article directories? I thought thats what I was supposed to be doing, lol. Im new to IM so sorry if this is obvious.

            I would like to do this the right way though and would like to eliminate useless tactics as soon as possible
            Travis,

            You are thinking about it backwards.

            I am not talking about the links IN your articles, I am talking about links from other sites TO you articles.

            If you have an article trying to sell balloons, the more links TO the article, the higher it will rank in the search engines (basically).

            But getting a link from a powerful site like, say, the american cancer society pointing to your balloons article is what people are doing. Completely unrelated and goes against everything the search engines have built up to this point.

            They see that powerful link and bump your article in the results. That is what I mean by "tricking" the search engines. And search engines don't like to be tricked and/or taken advantage of.

            But if you got a link from a party-related site or a balloon-related site, then THAT is what I consider to be a legitimate backlink building campaign...and from what I've seen recently, the relation of the website linking to your article vs. your article topic is starting to make a big difference, contrary to what some others are saying.

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            • Profile picture of the author steve39
              Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

              Travis,

              You are thinking about it backwards.

              I am not talking about the links IN your articles, I am talking about links from other sites TO you articles.

              If you have an article trying to sell balloons, the more links TO the article, the higher it will rank in the search engines (basically).

              But getting a link from a powerful site like, say, the american cancer society pointing to your balloons article is what people are doing. Completely unrelated and goes against everything the search engines have built up to this point.

              They see that powerful link and bump your article in the results. That is what I mean by "tricking" the search engines. And search engines don't like to be tricked and/or taken advantage of.

              But if you got a link from a party-related site or a balloon-related site, then THAT is what I consider to be a legitimate backlink building campaign...and from what I've seen recently, the relation of the website linking to your article vs. your article topic is starting to make a big difference, contrary to what some others are saying.

              Allen
              I couldn't agree more. In fact, I did a little experiment back in April with one of my articles on Ezine in the acne niche. First, the article was well written and the keyword was in the title and appeared 3 times in a 400 word article. Next, I made a comment on a music site that had a page rank of 7. This is an actual PR7 on that page, not just on the domain. I double checked to ensure it was do follow. In fact, I had to pay for this info from a guy on DP.

              My article had been on Google page 6 for a moderately competitive keyword - the next day, it was nowhere to be found. In 4 days it reappeared on page 4 and has slowly slipped back to its original spot. The link has been up for almost 3 months and the article shows no sign of moving anywhere. Actually, the PR checker on the google toolbar says N/A still - not even a O.

              Number one spot is still held by an Ezine article with 6 PR0 backlinks.

              So, that would lead me to believe the search engines are smarter than we give them credit for.

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            • Profile picture of the author Matt Bard
              Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

              But if you got a link from a party-related site or a balloon-related site, then THAT is what I consider to be a legitimate backlink building campaign...
              And you will have an easier time doing this if you follow Jay's (JayXtreme) advice when it comes to writing content for YOUR site first and then offer it to directories.

              In other words, if you spend more time on writing quality content for your blog then the other related sites will not have a problem linking to you.

              Having a site filled with quality content ( posts, articles, comments ) makes it easier for your backlinking campaigns.

              Matt
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              • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
                Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden View Post

                And you will have an easier time doing this if you follow Jay's (JayXtreme) advice when it comes to writing content for YOUR site first and then offer it to directories.

                In other words, if you spend more time on writing quality content for your blog then the other related sites will not have a problem linking to you.

                Having a site filled with quality content ( posts, articles, comments ) makes it easier for your backlinking campaigns.

                Matt
                You'd better believe it! LOL Much, MUCH easier. Not only because of the content but because of the perceived expertise you will create to your prospects. (not that you are NOT an expert, but as long as the prospects percieve you to be one, and you don't give them a bunch of regurgitated information, you will have a much easier time.

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          • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
            Originally Posted by petelta View Post

            I don't think I understand whats been done wrong here? What exacty is being done to trick the search engines? Is it bad to submit your blog articles to multiple article directories? I thought thats what I was supposed to be doing, lol. Im new to IM so sorry if this is obvious.

            I would like to do this the right way though and would like to eliminate useless tactics as soon as possible
            petelta (and anyone else who cares to listen),

            I forgot to give you a tip in my last reply.

            I have been at this for several years and have generated a very nice and CONSISTENT residual income, that is, money that comes to me even if I take the day off. And it is clean money that I don't mind earning.

            You say you want to eliminate useless tactics as soon as possible.

            So here's my tip for you.

            When evaluating a tactic, think to yourself. "Is this tactic meant to trick anyone - search engines, potential clients, random traffic (visitors), other marketers in my niche?"

            If the answer is "yes"...or even "maybe", then chances are you should steer clear of it.

            While the tactic may not be "useless" right now, it will most likely be so abused in a very short period of time that it will be useless before you know it - rendering all of the time you put into it, wasted.

            I truly believe with all my heart that staying true to yourself and your business will keep you a happy and profitable marketer...and that includes maintaining a dignified and ethical business model with plenty of integrity. Remember that "integrity is what you do when nobody is looking!"

            Respectfully,
            Allen
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            • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
              I have written thousands of articles over the last 7-years on the internet across 4 different niche markets and posted a good many of them to different article directories (especially up until a couple of years ago when I changed to more affiliate marketing and blogging, web2.0).

              In my opinion, go articles was of very little benefit no matter how you look at it (direct traffic, conversions, or backlink benefit).

              Ezine articles, on the other hand, has been incredibly valuable - I still have dozens of articles written 5+ years ago that rank in the first page on Google for some very competitive phrases that bring me pretty substantial traffic and yes, conversions into sales and subscribers each month.

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              • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
                Originally Posted by jbsmith View Post

                I have written thousands of articles over the last 7-years on the internet across 4 different niche markets and posted a good many of them to different article directories (especially up until a couple of years ago when I changed to more affiliate marketing and blogging, web2.0).

                In my opinion, go articles was of very little benefit no matter how you look at it (direct traffic, conversions, or backlink benefit).

                Ezine articles, on the other hand, has been incredibly valuable - I still have dozens of articles written 5+ years ago that rank in the first page on Google for some very competitive phrases that bring me pretty substantial traffic and yes, conversions into sales and subscribers each month.

                Jeff
                I think that has been the norm over the last few years. I see EZA articles all over the place that are more than a year old - some several years old, but rarely.

                Still, I have yet to see a GA article that has been online for over a few months when doing searches - when I even SEE a GA article doing a search.

                I'm talking about 1st page results. There may be older GA articles on lower pages, but I dont pay much attention to other domains past the first page.

                Of course, things are always changing on the internet, so this trend may reverse - but right now it still appears highly unlikely.

                EZA articles are every where - on practically any search. But GA, Buzzle, and all the other 2nd tier directories are definitely more sparse.

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  • Profile picture of the author WinsonYeung
    Ezinarticles is the best article directory but it has also the strictest guildeline as well.
    Goarticles is the second best article directory but they have the easiest guidelink to get your site approve, it's almost instantly and they accept affiliate link as well.

    I prefer to use goarticles for backlinks building article and ezinearticles for traffic. Make use of both of them for your different purpose.

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  • Profile picture of the author marmo
    Just added this to a folder of fav links called " good WF posts " , valuable info here , thanks.

    also what is meant by parasite in this phrase you used

    " Piggy-Backing off of a parasites high PR " .... does that mean the directory steals PR from some sites and gives it back to others ? I know some directorys and such can steal PR from a site as per this I read:

    " Some directorys put code on the outgoing links that uses software that tracks clicks. Some of these codes are harmless but some steal PR from your site. There are several methods of doing this.

    Whenever you are looking for a directory to submit your site to run the mouse over one of the links of a site listed in their directory and look at the actual link. It may have the following in the URL "redir.asp?" or "id=(some number here)." Notice the "redir". That means there is a redirect on this link . Also the "id=" is another clue that it's being redirected as the number is used in place of the site name. "
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
      Hello,

      Originally Posted by marmo View Post


      also what is meant by parasite in this phrase you used

      " Piggy-Backing off of a parasites high PR " .... does that mean the directory steals PR from some sites and gives it back to others ? I know some directorys and such can steal PR from a site as per this I read:
      With Goarticles being used in this way, it is just another example of parasite hosting. You are essentially hosting your content on another site for free...in this case, with hopes that their established PR will help your content rank highly in the search engines.

      What people need to remember though is that using Goarticles like this is really NO DIFFERENT than spamming doorway pages. So, you have to keep in mind that once Google devalues the incoming links, if that is what they decide to do, you will need to start the process all over again.

      IF you have software that will automate this for you, your all set But, if you are doing this by hand and manually, I would rather be kicked repeatedly between my legs.

      If you have software then you can do it pretty much automatically with no effort and if they search engines (one or all of them) slap you, all you do is laugh it off and push the buttons again.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrrichesinniches
    Using goarticles for back links works well. I use them to link to my blogger blog then to my money site.
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  • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
    Jeremy makes a few VALID points here.. you should listen to him..

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  • Profile picture of the author dsmpublishing
    I get amazing results from goarticles.com when i look on my stats on statcounter many of my daily hits come from them and that is something that i simply cant argue with if i was to name my favourite three it would them, ezinearticles.com and articlesbase.com.

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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    What really amazes me is how many people worry about the "PR" of a site.. If you would spend the time on building backlinks from any source (related source) vs trying to spend that time only on high pr sites then you would increse your income by 10 fold...

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  • Profile picture of the author petelta
    OK, great. Thanks Allen, that helped a lot. I can see why thats a problem for sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
    Yes, I believe they are smarter than most people think. I also think they are omnipresent in the internet marketing community. Kind of like Big Brother in "1984" - we just don't know who it is!

    Unfortunately, you cannot place a lot of emphasis on a single example such as this (although I do feel that Steve's example is indicative of what is happening across the board). So many people are seeing something happen with an article ortwo and making, in some cases very extreme, assumptions about SEO and article marketing.

    Everyone is watching an article marketing campaign with a few articles...even a few hundred articles...and no way to see the web stats because they're not on your domain. How can anyone make assumptions when you don't even know who is looking at your articles?

    On the other hand, when you are able to watch things on a more massive scale and can see all of the article statistics and where they are ranking in the search engines, and then scrutinize those articles that are working...and those that are not...then you will be able to develop more educated theories about what's really going on - and in a real-time arena!

    Back to the point - the search engines have specific patterns and tendencies (which, again, can only be theorized). But when you watch it consistently, you can quickly see when things change. They jump out at you like a sore thumb.

    From what I can see, the search engines are definitely smarter than most of us think. I also think they are operating on a plane that none of us are really looking at or can understand.

    Dang - I am just rambling on again.

    Moral: Niche-related backlinks are becoming more powerful.

    Respectfully,
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  • Profile picture of the author himanuzo
    If you want backlinks, GoArticles is still good. But it is not good for long term traffic & SERP purposes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zack Lim
    I personally feel that it will be better to just submit the articles to all the top article directories.

    It will be better to get more leverage from the same piece of content.

    Just my humble opinion

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  • Profile picture of the author Raiel Schwartz
    The one thing I like about GoArticles is that it seems my articles go up instantly as soon as I post them. They have a good page rank and aren't picky like Ezine Articles. If you are building backlinks, you can use the same article with go articles as you do with hundreds of other article directories.

    Of course, like others have previously mentioned, each article directory has it's own pros and cons. Do answer your original however, yes, goarticles is still recommended - provided you use it for the correct reasons.
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  • So the trick would be to promote products from niches where it´s easy to get lots of relevant/related backlinks?
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by affiliated survivor View Post

      So the trick would be to promote products from niches where it´s easy to get lots of relevant/related backlinks?
      The trick is to create your own product that solves many people' issues ... They have a problem you provide the solution and keep 100% of the profits and not make some merchant rich with his affiliate program.

      Not to mention top level domains with your "own" product are a great deal easier to advertise vs affiliate links...

      James
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  • Yes sure, having your own product is always the best.
    What I mean is: For article marketing, if you want your article to stay at the top for a long time, and non-related backlinks are devaluated within a short time by Google, having a lot of related backlinks would solve that problem.
    For computer related themes, for instance, there are a huge number of blogs, forums etc. It´s easy to generate a lot of backlinks.
    When selecting a product for article marketing shouldn´t you keep in mind if it will be easy, or at least possible, to obtain the necessary amount of related backlinks for a certain product/article to reach the top?
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by affiliated survivor View Post

      Yes sure, having your own product is always the best.
      What I mean is: For article marketing, if you want your article to stay at the top for a long time, and non-related backlinks are devaluated within a short time by Google, having a lot of related backlinks would solve that problem.
      For computer related themes, for instance, there are a huge number of blogs, forums etc. It´s easy to generate a lot of backlinks.
      When selecting a product for article marketing shouldn´t you keep in mind if it will be easy, or at least possible, to obtain the necessary amount of related backlinks for a certain product/article to reach the top?
      If you have a product that is in demand and it does solve the problems then your backlinking and marketing will be a great deal easier. Besides there are backlinks out there for just about any niche you can think of...

      James
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      • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
        Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

        If you have a product that is in demand and it does solve the problems then your backlinking and marketing will be a great deal easier. Besides there are backlinks out there for just about any niche you can think of...

        James
        That's not to say that affiliate marketing doesn't work, right?

        I think a natural combo works very well too.

        I have 14 affiliate sites where I sell other people's stuff and I am getting rich making them rich. LOL

        Then, after years of writing articles about those products, I create my own ebook about the "problem" and sell it on the site as well.

        This is a good model that hasn't been talked about too much around here. I like it because I have the patience to do it and the eventual return on time invested is kickass.

        Takes a lot of time to get going, yes, but the residual income and diversification of niches makes it damn solid.

        In fact, it gives you the time needed to go and create another one...or a membership site.

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        • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
          Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

          That's not to say that affiliate marketing doesn't work, right?

          I think a natural combo works very well too.

          I have 14 affiliate sites where I sell other people's stuff and I am getting rich making them rich. LOL

          Then, after years of writing articles about those products, I create my own ebook about the "problem" and sell it on the site as well.

          This is a good model that hasn't been talked about too much around here. I like it because I have the patience to do it and the eventual return on time invested is kickass.

          Takes a lot of time to get going, yes, but the residual income and diversification of niches makes it damn solid.

          In fact, it gives you the time needed to go and create another one...or a membership site.

          Allen
          Not at all, affiliate marketing does work.. For some better than others. As someone that used to actually manage affiliate programs for merchants I can say they work extremely well for those that put the time and effort into the affiliate programs. Course the same goes with anything you do actually...lol

          Personally I prefer to create my own products although I do have an entire affiliate shop that I make money from (non IM niche) and I really do not even need to advertise it much anymore..

          James
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