Is Building a Website Directory Still a Good Idea?

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Hi Everyone,

I have a little experience with web design, mostly wordpress. I am contemplating building a nationwide website directory in a particular niche. I have done some research and find only a few similar directories and frankly they are not all that nice in appearance or in the quality of info that they offer. There was only one that looked well done and it serves the global community in this niche.

I know that building and maintaining a good website directory would be a lot of work, I wish I could communicate with someone who has experience to get their thoughts on the subject. If there is anyone out there that could offer some serious insight it would be greatly appreciated.

For now, any thoughts on the matter at this point would be helpful. Thanks very much in advance.

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  • Profile picture of the author suggs
    IMO, you would be far better off doing something else! I have just taken one of my NICHE directories offline and that had plenty of companies in it and plenty of content pages. Dont get me wrong the site used to get a few hundred unique visitors per month but it just didnt seem worth it to me.

    Also you're instantly on the back foot because of google's local results in the search engines..
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    It actually is, yes, surprisingly enough.

    This method is currently going strong and there are multiple applications. You need to think local, though, and stick to industry sectors: legal, dental, medical, and so forth. Using this model, you monetize by paid listings. You need SEO skills. But once you're ranked for a popular term in, say, the legal profession, and you have a couple of paid listings, the rest will follow since they don't want to lose out on potential leads to the competition. That's the paid listing route, and the most common one at present. There's more to it, but hopefully it provides you a jumping-off point for research.

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  • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
    Google penalizes any site flagged as a primitive directory, so you'll need something more than that backing the business unless you're YellowPages.com. Sites like Yelp, AngiesList and Thumbtack are examples of directories with modified concepts that keep them relevant.

    While there has been a lot of discussion in the offline section in the area of charging local businesses for directory placements, this usually involves a scam. They build a stupid directory and then try to convince local businesses that they need a listing. Some of the non-techie types fall for it and pay the fee. What makes it a scam is the directory operators put all of their work into selling placements and little to no work putting the directory in front of consumers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
      Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

      Google penalizes any site flagged as a primitive directory, so you'll need something more than that backing the business unless you're YellowPages.com. Sites like Yelp, AngiesList and Thumbtack are examples of directories with modified concepts that keep them relevant.

      While there has been a lot of discussion in the offline section in the area of charging local businesses for directory placements, this usually involves a scam. They build a stupid directory and then try to convince local businesses that they need a listing. Some of the non-techie types fall for it and pay the fee. What makes it a scam is the directory operators put all of their work into selling placements and little to no work putting the directory in front of consumers.
      This isn't the case in my own experience. I currently stick to the hotel, bed and breakfast, guest house sectors. You need a great EMD, a lot of SEO skills, and rich content, but the time and effort is well worth it - especially with this sector, since they're actually very used to purchasing listings in directories. I rank page #1, position #1 for each directory, give each listing an entire feature-rich page, offer local news, activities, images, even history and blogs, and lots more. Vacationers really appreciate these resources since they can find everything they need in the one place. I could go on, but I'm ready to clock-out for the day.

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  • Profile picture of the author rtws
    Originally Posted by bburko01 View Post

    Is Building a Website Directory Still a Good Idea?
    That's hard to say nowadays.. i just built one myself at @vailable with free submissions, it really seems alot of work with uncertain returns though
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    • Profile picture of the author PBScott
      Personally I feel you are almost a decade too late for this to be worth your time.
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  • Profile picture of the author bburko01
    Many thanks to all those that offered their insight, particularly GRM and DWolfe. That article on "Twists Used to Build and LBD" was great. I had a vaguely similar idea in mind in that I would offer free placement for a handful of local businesses in each US state. I would offer industry specific news and other info that I might gather from my own subscription to their newsletters.

    I would also try to get industry manufacturers in on the site to talk about their offerings and advancements. Eventually offering these niche specific businesses in the directory the ability to advertise themselves, post video and pics, list specials and events etc.

    Right now I have a regular J.O.B. making decent money. I've tinkered with IM for a short while but haven't really done all that well. Mostly building some websites for local businesses and bartering for services. I have the desire to continue my endeavor of becoming self-employed but seem to keep coming up short. I need to make this happen with something I'm interested in (the niche for this directory would do it as it is my hobby).

    I get discouraged sometimes because just keeping up with the regular changes in SEO almost seems like a full time job to me lol. I need to make something happen! The Directory idea seems like a good idea to me but I don't want to pump a lot of time and energy into something that's not going to do well. Especially in light of (as suggs mentioned) search engine's now focusing on local search results. It seems like the SEO for a directory would also be another full time gig to be effective.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
      Originally Posted by bburko01 View Post

      Many thanks to all those that offered their insight, particularly GRM and DWolfe. That article on "Twists Used to Build and LBD" was great. I had a vaguely similar idea in mind in that I would offer free placement for a handful of local businesses in each US state. I would offer industry specific news and other info that I might gather from my own subscription to their newsletters.

      I would also try to get industry manufacturers in on the site to talk about their offerings and advancements. Eventually offering these niche specific businesses in the directory the ability to advertise themselves, post video and pics, list specials and events etc.

      Right now I have a regular J.O.B. making decent money. I've tinkered with IM for a short while but haven't really done all that well. Mostly building some websites for local businesses and bartering for services. I have the desire to continue my endeavor of becoming self-employed but seem to keep coming up short. I need to make this happen with something I'm interested in (the niche for this directory would do it as it is my hobby).

      I get discouraged sometimes because just keeping up with the regular changes in SEO almost seems like a full time job to me lol. I need to make something happen! The Directory idea seems like a good idea to me but I don't want to pump a lot of time and energy into something that's not going to do well. Especially in light of (as suggs mentioned) search engine's now focusing on local search results. It seems like the SEO for a directory would also be another full time gig to be effective.
      You're welcome, buddy. Just addressing your last point: You're quite right. I'm lucky enough to farm out the work to staff, but the directories do require a lot of work. Best advice I can give, now I'm fully awake, is think beyond the typical type of directory. I forget who mentioned it above, but they're quite right in saying the directory gold rush is over. I would just amend it to the typical directory. I can only speak for the hotel and B&B sector but you have to create a full-on local resource for a market and you have to consider business sectors that are used to paying online. I chose hotels because, aside from quite a bit of experience in the industry, I know they love to throw money at the internet.

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  • Profile picture of the author jgant
    GRM makes some great points but I can't help but think there are easier ways/models to make money online... obviously since I don't publish directories.

    The only way I would think a directory is worth it is if you you would like to build up a local biz marketing service you can use the directory as a way to land clients.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
      Originally Posted by jgant View Post

      GRM makes some great points but I can't help but think there are easier ways/models to make money online... obviously since I don't publish directories.

      The only way I would think a directory is worth it is if you you would like to build up a local biz marketing service you can use the directory as a way to land clients.
      Thanks, buddy, and you raise a great extension to the model. What I do (via my design agency) is give each hotel and B&B a free listing. They can then pay for a premium listing. Now, many of the hotels already have a website (about 99% really), but a lot of them will have these ugly DIY efforts. With them being in our directory, we offer then discount web design and marketing. It's a good business (though it's pretty hands off for me these days, due to lack of time and inclination really). But you can offer everything a web dev agency usually pushes: design, mobile sites, media management, social network skinning, etc, etc, and in this niche you find them ready buyers; they can't get enough some of them.

      Overall, it's a pretty good model. There are far better ways to make a buck - and this one, especially is a time consuming one - but it's a good solid business with stable income (monthly billing and lots of one-off payments). I'd recommend the same market as I use and stick to a specific area.

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  • Profile picture of the author dvduval
    Most important is your idea is not focused on SEO but on making a directory that people will actually use. Even better is finding ways that people will participate on your directory writing reviews, rating or submitting content. I've been in the directory industry for more than a decade.
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