Who cares about post counts?

Yeah, I suppose I was thinking of a poster with say 14k posts in a year or so. I have tens of thousands of posts on other boards over years as well, and I would say that there's a lot of value in many of those as well, but also understand that someone that posts that much (even if it is over a long period of time) has other motives. Why else would you spend that much time on a message board?

There is no direct correlation between value and post count. It just shows post activity. Nothing more than that.

I agree with this statement. No matter how many posts you added, you share with people valuable information or knowledge, then it's appreciated!

Not only that, but many members don't seem to have learned to use it.

If I had a nickel for every time someone had thanked me in a post without using the Thanks button...

Well, I'd have a few nickels anyway.

Steve

It's me again! I just today became aware of the Thanks button because
it was mentioned several times in this thread!

I couldn't understand the 0 mention in the sidebar because of course
I've thanked people, probably my reason for posting was for
thanking someone... so now I know I should press the Thanks button.

Fran

Yeah, thats funny, I have been here since early 2007 and I am way to busy to have a post count as high as 12,000...nothing wrong with it but I just wouldn't be able to spend the time.

We should get rid of post count and any other rank classifier. Even the "thank you" is over used in my opinion. There should be two rankings, member and non-member.

Just my opinion.

Is it just me or does the word "infraction" call up the 9th circle of hell, complete with some sort of never ending pit of Interwebz Doom? OK, probably just me.

At any rate, to avoid Dante's Inferno, I will say this; Post count do carry certain weight around here, for a few reasons.

1. Some of the senior cats on this forum have no problem calling out an idiot. I'm thinking Steve W., Exrat, e.t.c... This I like, immensely. They are the gauge by which I measure foolishness.
2. Some of the senior cats here are my personal frikin heroes, people I know have the cahonas to walk the walk and talk the talk.
3. See #1.

There are so many knuckleheads offering heaps of crap advice and/or WSOs with 30 or below posts - well it can be unnerving for anyone new. If all the newbs have to go by are the stats, then stats have to make do. I guarantee that in my own short time here, I can't think of one person with over 300 posts that hasn't had their a$$ handed to them by the cooler members here - should they try to lay out ridiculous advice or obvious self promotion.

Also, for me, I look the most at the time people have spent here - both giving and receiving advice. If I see someone with 5 posts but they have been here since Miami Vice was on the air, I will give them some serious lattitude - for these are the wise and silent ones - and normally what they say is nothing short of brilliant.

However, if someone is trying to tell me how to spam via a bluehat technique on some goobers advice, and they have 8 posts and joined 5 minutes ago, well let's just say I tend to ignore them.

Or else I give them the dreaded infraction.

David,

66 posts in 7 years. Quit running up your post count!

George Wright

That's because it's impossible to improve on perfection
but I can see why you'd be so jealous. I mean you look
like a talent scout for a cemetery. :p

John

I recall Steven Wagenheim (12,000 posts) arguing with Paul Myers (7,000 posts)

Harvey

Hi aamccall,

But you do have time. You found time to start a new thread entitled 'who the hell cares about post counts!!!'

The whole crux of the post is to emphasis this point -

In brief - People who simply want to learn, put effort into their business, but don't have time to post are good guys/gals too.

I don't think you are so good. That's my point. You have two things right -

a) wanting to learn

b) working on your business

There is no c) give back in order to sustain the thing which helped you to - 'learn so much in such a short time' and 'achieve your goals in life'.

Don't you see that everything you wrote actually DOES emphasize the importance of post count (or more accurately, making some valuable posts - whatever the number.)

This thread has no value. In fact it's less than value-less. It's unhelpful, negative and twisted.

A question for you -

Those posts that you read that helped you to 'learn so much' and 'achieve your goals' - where did they come from?

Did Eben Pagan write them once he had found success?

No. He found other things to do like selling more information and making more money. But in fairness to him, he's not in here ranting and whingeing.

This -

...is a bare-faced outright lie. If you couldn't find the time to contribute while you were extracting valuable information, what on earth makes you think that we believe that you're suddenly going to switch into non-selfish mode when you find success and free time?

And to offer this as justification -

Ummm...do you know what 'mass control' means? If so, why are you quoting what someone said there about being selfish as if it's some kind of justification?

If EVERYONE took your approach, how many pages of information would there be on this forum? None. Because we'd all be busy 'paying it backward.'

Do I have a particular gripe with anyone who doesn't contribute? No. As I said in my previous post there is no requirement to contribute. But when they have the audacity to come here and unload their negativity in a scattergun manner because someone dared to PM them after receiving an infraction, and justify this by saying 'I'm too busy to post here' - well I have a gripe with them, yes.

You start a new thread to have a rant at someone and tell them to get a life, and then to say the things you have done along with it, which in turn has led to others coming along and 'having their say' about how value-less post count is, along with the insinuations that obviously emanate from their comments (example - 'know-it-all' comments) totally pisses me off and compels me to point out all of the holes in your logic and justification. I don't ask for any gratitude if I have ever made a helpful post, although it is appreciated if I get it.

But I think a bit more respect is due to the people who helped you to learn and achieve your goals. They may not be high post count warriors, but they obviously didn't have the same values as you otherwise their assistance would never have been there for you in the first place.

I hope you realise that regardless of your gracious thankyous, the sum total of your effort here (apart from wasting pixels and encouraging others to have a selfish attitude) is simply to give those helpful people who helped you without recompense, reason to think twice before taking time away from their businesses to do the same thing again.

So in fact, you have actually proven that the person's comment in the private message was correct and that low post count CAN indicate something important. Nice epic fail.

People like you suck the life and the goodness out of communities. Get a life yourself - and while you're at it, get rid of your ENTITLEMENT ATTITUDE.

To Paul, Roger and John Taylor:

If you know me, you know by now that I am not a suck up. I've had more
battles with you 3 than I care to admit to. I've acted like an ass and worse.

I can honestly say that I greatly look forward to most of your insightful
posts. John, you're not as long winded as Paul and Roger, but when you
say something it cuts right to the chase and has so much meaning, unlike
myself who, at times, has a habit of rambling on into the black night.

If I could collect every post that these gentlemen have made here related to
running a business and bound them in a book, I'd probably be one of the
most knowledgeable marketers on the planet just from their posts alone.

Post count does mean something when you actually have something to
say. Otherwise, it's kind of like that crappy music (I use that term loosely)
that you hear on those teeny bop stations that do nothing but fill up
the airwaves with useless noise.

I have been way too guilty of that myself.

I guess what I am trying to say, to the rest of you, is to look at the
quality of what one says. There are people here with fewer than 100
posts who have said some incredible things. I won't mention their names
here because I don't want to embarrass them.

Just because one likes to speak a lot doesn't mean he has anything to say.

There is an old Chinese proverb that everybody should take to heart.

It goes like this.

"Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because
they have to say something."

I have been guilty of the latter way too often.

Post count by itself doesn't tell the whole story.

or flipping websites


Harvey