Ridiculous: Can You Really Make Money With Internet Marketing?

Been doing it for the last 6 years as well so I am another proof it is possible

But, it does require actual work. Six figure incomes don't just come out of thin air, which is what most courses and ads try to convince you.. It is all about where you turn for information. There is more info on forums then there is in any paid product, but to find it on forums you need a lot of time and patience.

But when you do find it, you need to start doing. Just finding it, won't give you an income.

I had bought my car and started so many traditional business open up my dream gamefarm with Online fueled income, Mlm. So I can attest to a proof that you can make real income online. This is coming from someone who started out with virtually nothing.

Apparently the Telegraph are pushing the "British Dream" of not trying anything new and "just getting by".

As a newbie, I TRULY appreciate this particular thread!
I know it'll take A LOT of work, but at this point all I have is time and motivation!

'The term "internet marketing" can be confusing. On the one hand it refers to the legitimate promotion of products and services on the web as done by thousands of companies every day. However, it also refers to a sprawling unregulated industry that offers to help ordinary people start online enterprises and make money.'

Yet it's the 'however' that the article gives weight to. It's mildly amusing to see the paper imply that internet marketing is for mugs when the whole page is so weighed down by adverts that Firefox struggles to haul it from the bowels of the internet, after which you get clobbered by a pop-up while you're trying to read it.

The ironic thing about these articles is that in order to bolder their case that you "can't make money online" they interview people who make their living online.

I think it's hilarious that they say making money online is not possible then quote Jason Jones from Salty Droid:

"The people making money in internet marketing are selling courses and other add-ons. The whole thing is fake." - Jason Jones, Salty Droid

The whole thing is fake? Making money running a blog (like Salty Droid) is a scam?

"It is a scam and you can't make money online. Just ask Jason Jones who, um, makes his living running a blog online... never mind."

Please excuse the dissenting tone, Sarah, but to me it isn't at all.

The key word, there, is "claims".

This issue isn't about whether you can make money online. We all know that you can. It's about the integrity, legality and acceptability of internet marketing advertising that rests on income claims.

Industries which are as bad, collectively, as ours has been, over the years and decades, at regulating themselves, inevitably incur adverse media attention and increasing external regulation of the kind which tends to be bad for all of us.

The media are right , in my opinion, to highlight this largely illegal, largely misleading, unethical, deceptive kind of internet marketing. The sooner we get rid of the income claims, the better it will be for all of us who aren't trying to deceive others.


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I agree that the media are right to highlight how people are being misled by these claims, but this article used exactly the same sensationalism to promise something that it didn't deliver, only without the figures.

'You Can Make Six Figures' - We Test Internet Marketing Claims. There was no testing going on in that piece whatsoever, and so the quotes used in the article lent it about as much authority as the average testimonial does to a sales page. Not much, if you know how easily these things can be faked, but the Telegraph is counting on a big audience that doesn't know a lot and hopes it's going to make them savvy.

Not too unlike newbies who encounter the sales page of an unscrupulous marketer.

An actual investigation would have impressed me more, whatever the conclusion. Instead it's all just filler, designed to capitalise on a popular interest in the same way as UK newspaper the Daily Mail draws eyeballs by printing endless guff about Kim Kardashian even though most people over here have never heard of her and would have been happy for it to stay that way.

I hear what you're saying Lexy, honestly. I wish this industry and the reputation that it's got for itself would get cleaned up sooner rather than later, but it makes me just as uncomfortable to see people being manipulated by the media. I want to see these wild claims tested and proven to be a pile of bull, but just stringing a few quotes into an article falls a long way short.

An insightful comment on that page:
I didn't know affiliate marketing was a "pyramid scheme"! - Does that mean Clickbank's days are numbered?

Did anyone even read the article? The author didn't make any assertions at all about whether you can make money online. What he did do was this:

1. Cherry pick an anecdote from someone who was successful making money online
2. Cherry pick another anecdote from someone who wasn't able to make money online

I agree that the article wasn't particularly well written, but the only difference between that author and the vast majority of people in the MMO niche only cherry pick their anecdotes from group #1 above.

The fact is that there are no good data on success rates for people trying to make money online. On the one hand you have people in the MMO niche saying anyone can make money online. On the other hand, I've seen people claim failure rates as high as 98%. What's the truth? Nobody knows. And sorry, but the fact that you have friends, uncles, cousins, and granddaughters who made money online doesn't prove that it's easy. All it proves is that some people were successful. But "some" is very different than "many" and it's very, very different than "most".

One thing we do have is data on other types of businesses. For instance, one article I recently read found that 60% of restaurants fail within three years (Source: The Restaurant-Failure Myth - Businessweek). My guess is that most of the restaurants in the study didn't fail because their owners were lazy or didn't "take action". They failed because starting a business -- any business -- is hard.

My guess -- and it's only a guess -- is that except for the lower barriers to entry, succeeding in online business is no easier than succeeding in the restaurant business. And even these low barriers to entry are a mixed blessing. After all a business that has low costs for you to start also has low costs for potential competitors.

So congratulations on having found definitive anecdotal evidence that proves that making money online is possible. Of course in 1978, a couple of kids found a Ferrari buried in their back yard proving just as definitively that it's possible to find luxury vehicles buried on your property. But again, just because something is possible doesn't mean it's probable...

P.S. Do you want to buy a shovel?

For sure SEO service is missed...

Even though I make significantly more then my five siblings, I still get the "Get a haircut and get a real job" speech.

It bothers them to no end that I am free and they are someone's "slave."

1. The article is from April 2014...was this thread really necessary?
2. Is this thread just to get exposure to your sig link? It appears so.
3. I thought the article was well written and laid out nothing but good info.
4. I HOPE many noobs read the article and give up. IM isn't for everyone.
5. The article in question did a thorough expose on how the Biz Opp industry works online. Not as good as the Verge's expose...but still pretty good.

This is good advice.

Totally not required and not desired by as many as some would have you think. In some of my most profitable niches, customers have no idea who I am and couldn't care less.

Same as above.

Give people what they need and/or desire. Do it in a professional manner, offering only quality products and provide excellent CS.

You don't have to be a gooroo to succeed.

It is said 95% of internet marketers fail, within the other 5% are those who are
truly making a 6 figure income from internet marketing. However do not expect
these gurus to teach you all there methods, they are holding the most profitable ones
close to there chest.

Many people think that "internet Marketing" is easy, and falling for the trap "lets make a million within 6 hours"..

Internet marketing i hard..
A lot harder than most of things.

People think that they can just come in and make money(Thanks you are the reason that "internet marketing gurus" are rich).. i have done internet marketing for ******* 10+ years..

I can only say good luck to you, you gonna need it.

the truth is 99.5% of the people in here will never make anything like 6 figure. So don't even talk about it..

I made 6 figure before i even thought about it.. that is have it is done.. not the other way around

I make living online more than one year... Yes as lot of marketers said before
it isn't push button money. You must work hard and solve other problems. Don't worry about the money.
If you solve a problem and seek out ways to serve more people, money will find you.

There is confusion in this thread over their use of the "internet marketing" term.

The article is not bashing the concept of operating an internet-based business. Nobody is going to do that. They were warning potential victims about the fake guru industry. When they say there is no money in internet marketing, they are speaking in the sense of the bubble that these fake gurus and their buyers reside in.

Of course, it probably doesn't matter. There is a high level of cult-like behavior on this forum in regards to fake guru worshiping. You say anything bad about the gooroos and WarriorForum is going to pounce.

Some time ago I would say all "gurus" are con artists. However, being a part of a few coaching programs in my carrier and looking at all of this from distance, today I can say that not all "gurus" are scam artists.

Actually from each program I was involved in I took a new set of skills and experience that I wouldn't get anywhere else (at least not at the price I have paid for it). Majority of people will not make big $ in any coaching program in few first months. Even if the coach/mentor or "guru" is legit most people will fail. And the reason is simple, not everyone is cut out to make business. And when it comes to newbies they are often desperate to make money fast and that is the biggest problem they have (both mentors and newbies).

How can they execute ideas properly and go through the process if they can't focus on the process because they are thinking about money? They just can't.

In my view many coaches/mentors have a lot of value to offer but, too many don't know how to take care of that person once in the program. This is true especially in big coaching programs consisting of many people. The coach won't be able to handle that many people effectively. I was in program like that and have experienced it personally (There was around 130 people in our group). Should people designing the coaching program make it limited to a smaller number of individuals I bet our results would be much much better. Still, I learned a lot and would go for it again.

There were also some free coaching programs that helped me a lot. The whole point is to follow the process (I know... many people just can't do it...).

Also, there is saying "Those who can, do; those who can't, teach".

Is Dan Kennedy worthless wannabe guru who can't DO and only can teach? (and many other great marketers and sales people with less known names)?

It really doesn't hurt to use brain from time to time but, many people act like it does.

The best advice I can give to people who are looking for a mentor or just coach is to calm down and think about actual process and what must be done to make $. Certainly, if there is a guy with 15 posts and he is claiming some big $ than he is a high risk investment and it's better to give up on him.

This is just one reporter with their own experience, their opinion and that's what they think. It's not a fact, in fact the its been proven everyday that's its possible to make money online, so I would'nt bother with such articles even it is from some big time newspaper.

Every industry has a "barrier to entry" ...overcoming this type of thing is the barrier that so many are unable to climb.

To Your Success,
-Terrance

As someone who has been online marketing since 2006, I have made my living online and I've seen many people go on to amass fortunes online.
I don't think it is an easy thing, it never is, and sure, there are snake oil salesmen, there always are, but with a good understanding of basic business sense, supply and demand, and a good bit of determination, anyone can find their way through to becoming successful online.
There are so many different ways to make money online these days, and the opportunities are growing, it's a case of chosing a path/vehicle that suits you and going for it.
You will make adaptions and diversions along the way, but if you truly want it, and are committed to it, you will find a way.

So I too disagree with this article.

My Regards,

Darren Starr

Oh good now everyone with employee minds can have the excuse it's internet marketing that doesn't work not them. IT'S A BUSINESS! Just like any other business knowledge, experience, action, repeat. If you're not willing to do these four things you will not make it in business, brick and mortar offline business, "internet marketing" online business. PERIOD!

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Rick

Anything is possible if you work hard. I literally had nothing when i started. Now i'm living very comfortable. Hard work and determination always pays off in the end. Also if you want to be successful all you need to do is HELP people. If you really care about your business and you clients everything will come around full circle.

in my opinion its not ridicules at all as currently i am making good amount of money with my forex sites i am looking or investor to devalop my sites to make 6 figure per month .

you must know just what to do and be in the right place in the right time

wow! really im living proof you can make money online
my first 8k was made selling a clickbank product
so it is possible...

Just look around the forum there are people making that much and more!

I am also a beginner in IM and my question is: do not you think that the internet is already satureted with internet marketers ? You tells that you have earn 6 figures bills but you are already in the business for a long time. I think it is harder to start now what do you think ? Any advices ?

Thanks

Karol

yes people making money but they are in this business for ages. What about people whe are starting ? Do they have such bigg opportunity like people who started few long time ago ?

any one can earn money with internet marketing .. The important point is internet marketing need to serious person , make a plan and work hard .. It is not easy !

My house, my car, my motorcycle, the computer Im trying on and the food my family had for breakfast all strongly suggest that you can make a living online. Oh and so does the fat ass check I have to write the IRS next month.

Not possible at all. Except that time I was making 4 figures per month totally passive income for more than a year with niche sites. Didn't even login to any of those sites during that time

It's all a big lie. The only people who make money are in a secret IM society lol

I would say it is totally possible to make money online if you have the right niche/right audience. I think they were trying to point out all the "get rich quick" sites out there that are basically scams & usually sucker people that are still new to the internet marketing world. It's sad that there are still people out there that actually believe they can make $5000 their very 1st week of being online & are probably the people that are desperate to find a way to make money in the 1st place. I had to learn the hard way as well but after years of failure, I've learned the only thing that truly works online is making your own website/sales funnel then branding yourself over and over with advertising. With hard work & dedication you could be making that in about 6 months though

Yea, but the mainstream media says a lot of things that just aren't true. People who're going to read and believe that without trying it themselves probably aren't going to be very successful at making their own money anyway.

If you believe you can you can...and if only one other person has that is all the proof you need.It's so easy for the dream stealers to bag anything
Go For It
Vision and belief and action and you will suceed