Did you use someone from this forum?

Well, you say it's been 6 months. Has it actually been 6 full months, because I think that's the exact cut off period?

Is it too late to do a chargeback? Can you contact the better business bureau?
Do they have a physical location you can visit?
Do they list any phone numbers you can call?

That sucks. I'll do an SEO report on a few of your pages for free if you want to rank. Just give me the URL of the page and the keyword desired for that page.

IE: http://www.warrenforren.com - forex , forex training, forex broker

I create a different report for each keyword and I would be happy to do up to three keywords for one or two of your pages.

This won't replace your $1,000 but perhaps it can help some.

Call your credit card company ASAP and tell them what has happened.

They should work with you and you may even be able to do a charge
back. Credit Card companies don't like fraudsters either.

Have a Great Day!
Michael
PS. The CC companys phone number should be on the back side of your CC.

I've been emailing with the owner and now he won't respond to my emails...

He says that my contract was with "COMPANY NAME" and since that company has gone out of business he can't do anything about it...

And no, it wasn't anyone from this forum. I'm not going to take the company name because this thread will get shut down.

I just want my money back, so upset right now...

You should still try to do a chargeback. Even if they are out of business, their bank would probably have retained some money in their merchant account to deal with chargebacks.

I thought the chargeback was only within 90 days...

Can I still do one?

I had a smiliar problem with a uk based company back in 2006 i paid £1275 through my credit card and a further £11,500 through my debit card.

Again they made the same promises and didnt deliver once i started complaining they started ignoring me so i got a chargeback through my credit card in the end and it was 2yrs after the original payment was taken with hsbc.

They refused to help me with the debit card amount so i took the company to the court and won so dont be scared contact your bank asap and start sorting it out.

hope you get it sorted soon.


sam
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Kudos to you Scott, true spirit of a Warrior right there folks!!!

Simmon, don't take his word for it... make sure that the company you were
dealing with truly went under and that the "owners" are not personally responsible!!

A lot of people say and even write that they are a LLC and are not personally
responsible when in fact it's not true... up here in Canada we have what's called
The Business Registry Office and they have a website where one can check who
owns the business and what type of business it is... I'm sure the States have
something similar!

Good Luck Simmon, I hope you can recover your funds!

Kindest Regards,
Pete

Looks to me like you got ripped of and scammed. I would stay away from these people who claim that for a fee, they can get your ranked HIGH in the search engines.

Sorry you lost your $1000 but I don't think that there is anything that you can do to get your money back. Unless you find who these people are and where they live.

Tal

Shame you didn't read these forums six months ago! There's a lot of good and simple advice to help you get traffic to your site through. Much of it common sense.

It's difficult to know what to say: sometimes you have to take a chance with an online purchase to find out if it's good or bad. Most of the time, it's pretty difficult to do the research... except if you work with reputable people.

If the person is unknown, I'd certainly try to stagger such a big deal into two or even four clearly marked and benchmarked stages. Making the carrot dangle in front of the donkey can help to get better results!

Now, if only donkeys could type.

Simmonsmike27,

It really stinks when you get ripped off!

The only way to find out if you can get your money back is contact your c card company and ask - I have always found them to be very helpful.

I once bought an online product for €57 and was charged each month for 6 months even though it was advertised as a simple one-off payment. It took a month or two to get it back but I did eventually.

Don't you think it's a really great gesture from Scott and Andy to get some of your stuff ranked - for free!

This restores my faith in human nature - there are some really good guys on this forum!!

Karen

I am really sorry to hear that you got ripped off.

Have you reported this company to the attorney general. It may help. I know a lot of scammers are in the habit of closing down a company when they are about to get caught and then reopening the same scam under a different name.

It could be a whole lot bigger mess than meets the eye.

I hope you are successful in recovering your money.

Yes, do contact the credit card company - they can really work magic many times.

AW888

Was the company a registered LLC or INC? If not , he IS the company.

Even if it was, the veil of protection can be easily breached if fraud was involved in anyway.

As the credit card, from what merchant providers have told me people have six months (depending on the card) to file a charge back from when the service was renedered. This persons service didn't end until the 6 months was up for him to get you ranked.

You could also file a small claims court case if you don't get the 1k back for damages/loss of income because he didnt get the #1 rank if it was guaranteed.

He wont show up for court but that means you will more than likely win by default and then can turn him over to collection agencies and even take him back to court for failure to pay. Then maybe get his salary/tax returns garnished. Its a long shot and time consuming but will make his life hell.

Garrie

I recently got ripped off for $1,197. I never received the product I paid for. When I went to Paypal it had been over 45 days, and they told me that they could not do anything.

So I filed a complaint with the Internet Crime Center as well as the BBB. Am still waiting to hear.

good luck to you and me.

Most likely you are out the $1,000 and will never see it again, unless you can still get a chargeback. That's what I would find out first.

If you want to do a chargeback with your credit card company, be sure to get ready all proofs, written correspondence that states the terms, refund policy etc.

Personally, I don't think SEO services can guarantee results. But in exchange for your matter, I'll be happy to offer my assessment of your site and what you can do for on-page SEO so you can get benefits without employing questionable tactics.

Shame on that SEO firm. I say begin the chargeback process, it can be lengthy, so do it now.

~Joe

It sounds they may be pulling the wool over you're eyes. Funny how it's a six month guarantee and charge backs as standard is 6 months although that ain't set in stone by the sounds of it.

Listen, have they actually done any work for you. Over 6 months you should have a number of backlinks that either you haven't setup or are organic.

If you can verify this it will give you more ammunition with the credit card company etc. Because how can they have charged you for something that they haven't given you. It may be far more than not delivering results... They may not have done any work at all.

Damn that really does suck.

Try not to get to upset if you can't get your money back. I've lost a few dollars here and there. Know that the owners actions will come back to bite them in the ass. It's only a matter of time. What you should do is focus on making more money. Scott's offer is amazing. So, take him and any other warriors up on their offers and put it all behind you. I know you'll be more careful next time.

People like that always get whats coming to them!

In my experience Discover gives you 180 days while Visa and MC only give 90 days for a chargeback.

Good luck!

A few questions:
Do you have a contract?
Do you have company names and contact names?
Do you have a record of payment?
Are they located in the USA?

If you PM me, I might be able to help. I am a licensed private investigator, and I will see what I can dig up, if you do not know some of the answers to these questions.

If they are located in the USA. Take them to small claims court. Once you get a judgment, we can then garnish wages, rent, seize their property - whatever needs to be done. Once you start doing this, they usually pay, or arrange a payment schedule. That is just as good, because you get to collect interest on the judgment 7%-10%.

This is a common scam in uk, I'm sure in other countries aswell. Company opens up and offers guaranteed rankings at low rates with a refund period of like 6 months. before the heat comes ontop of them they wind up the business. As they have no debtors its easy for them to close business. They then open another one up a few days later with a new website and start again.

I used to sell a SEO service on google but stopped after this racket came out as a few dirty rats were not only stealing our deals but giving industry a bad name. Due to the nature of SEO its very hard to stop this kind of racket.

I have seen similar racket in training also. Company opens up and takes bookings on all sorts of expensive courses £5,000+ and keep on putting back dates of courses, then closes company withut delivering any training.

It's a shame these scams go on. The guys who run them are usually clued up and pay mules to be the directors. You can avoid this scam by making sure business has been around for some years and getting recommendations.

Post your URL and your anchor text and I'll link to you from my best site and drag you up. Maybe others will too.

That really sucks, but at least it was only $1k. That's actually very little when it comes to high quality SEO. Your only option now is to take them (whoever owned the defunct company) to small claims court btw.

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My initial thought is don't EVER pay someone for 'guaranteed [high] rankings' in the serps. That immediately shouts "amateur here, willing to lie for your doh".

Forget the money and start a new internet bussines. ANd then focus and you'll get more that $1000

Also, how much is $1k worth to you? Is it worth the time investment required to get what you're owed? or would it actually be more productive to move on and count your losses?

Take the owner to small claims court

Good Luck. Try ChargeBack if you have nothing to lose.

Hope it works out for you,

Good Luck!

There's a scam going around and not to many people know about. Alot of foregin people do this scam to get ahead when they come to the United States. Basically what they do is start up a business collect the bread, get credit accounts or whatever and then file for bankruptcy. They get all your money and whatever else they got on their credit account and there's nothing you can do about it.

If any company goes into to business then only a year or so later they're already out of business that's probably what they did.