Ok - what's a Goober?

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Lately I keep seeing people referring to 'Goobers' and I'm sure they're talking about people.

It sounds like it should be the name of a candy bar.

What is one? and why the sudden use of the word - it distracts me from what they're saying when I keep seeing it.
#goober
  • Profile picture of the author JoMo
    A goober is someone who doesn't know what a goober is.


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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Fullman
    Andy -- it's Allen's way of discouraging all the Gu~ru Bashing threads



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  • Profile picture of the author kelvin yeo
    Hey Andy:

    (How are you? Trust all's well with you.)

    Allen has "programmed" every mention of the word gu..ru to be replaced by "goober". It's pretty hilarious actually!

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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
      Also in case you didn't know, Black Hat as one word is now Bluefart.

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    Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

    Lately I keep seeing people referring to 'Goobers' and I'm sure they're talking about people.

    It sounds like it should be the name of a candy bar.

    What is one? and why the sudden use of the word - it distracts me from what they're saying when I keep seeing it.
    You probably know this but the word g-u-r-u is automatically replaced with the work goober.

    The word goober is synonymous with the following:
    nerd, dork, dweeb, geek, loser, dolt, fool, wierdo, oaf, etc.

    I hope that helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author SullyUI
    That IS funny, I didn't know what was going on either, thanks for the explanation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
    Every time I turn around there's a new word replacement on this forum!!!

    I need to stop turning around. Seriously.

    This morning I read a DM from someone who was mentioning an ebook I wrote, Overnight (Gooorooo) - and of course her DM referred to it as Overnight Goober. I was like, WHAT? Is she dissing my book? Just being clever? Then I read the main threads and realized that Allen Says was playing Fiendishly Clever Word Switch Mind Games.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Hancox
      Originally Posted by Dana_W View Post

      Every time I turn around there's a new word replacement on this forum!!!

      I need to stop turning around. Seriously.

      This morning I read a DM from someone who was mentioning an ebook I wrote, Overnight (Gooorooo) - and of course her DM referred to it as Overnight Goober. I was like, WHAT? Is she dissing my book? Just being clever? Then I read the main threads and realized that Allen Says was playing Fiendishly Clever Word Switch Mind Games.


      Funniest thing I read in a while
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Aaahh - that makes sense.

    It seemed way too overused - I guess that says something about the word it was replacing.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author JeffLam
    Thanks for clearing it up! I asked around without anyone giving me an answer a few threads back. :p

    But what's with this word changes? G u r u to goober and black hat to bluefart?

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    It also screws up headlines in WSOs and Classified ads. Items that we pay for!

    Not cool.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by PLRwithAlex View Post

      It also screws up headlines in WSOs and Classified ads. Items that we pay for!

      Not cool.
      As much as I hate to admit it, this is a valid point.

      If we're paying for ads in the WSO forum and our copy, written in a way to
      entice prospects to buy, is altered by these substitutions, then it could
      seriously affect sales.

      I personally don't use these words but understand why others do.

      Is there a way to restrict the substitutions to forums outside the WSO
      forum?
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          Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

          half the front page was EbonyHat this or that and many of them were advocating fraudulent and sometimes illegal methods.
          Um... that's what bluefart methods ARE. Generally you commit the illegality or fraud against some big company like Google or Amazon, but being illegal and fraudulent is rather the point.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

          I think it was in part meant to discourage use of those terms within the WSO section as well as the rest of the forum. For a while there, half the front page was EbonyHat this or that and many of them were advocating fraudulent and sometimes illegal methods.

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          I can understand discouraging blackhat products and certainly if the forum
          doesn't want them, they are within their right not to approve them.

          But what is really so bad about the word "gu-ru?"

          Like it or not, many people associate that word with knowledge and
          success, so if they see an ad that reads...

          "Have "gu-ru" like success with your <fill in the blank>"

          then changing that to goober can really kill the effectiveness of the
          ad.

          Of course this is just my opinion.
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            • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
              Anything that encourages people to avoid the same old tired and stale terms in their copywriting and posting is a good thing in my book.

              The G word, in particular, has been one of the most used (and misused) descriptions in IM. It's nice to have a break for a while.



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              • Profile picture of the author John Taylor
                Frank,

                Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

                Anything that encourages people to avoid the same old tired and stale terms in their copywriting and posting is a good thing in my book.
                Yep, that's a great secondary benefit
                obtained by the change of the word
                in question to "Goober".

                Damnit, it makes people think!

                Whatever next?

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                • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
                  Originally Posted by John Taylor View Post

                  Whatever next?
                  Y'all can use "swami."

                  I'll stake my claim for "sage."

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                    Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

                    Y'all can use "swami."

                    I'll stake my claim for "sage."


                    I'm going to ban you. Those are just as bad :-)
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                    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
                      Originally Posted by admin View Post

                      I'm going to ban you. Those are just as bad :-)
                      When everyone starts talking about swamis, I'm sure it'll be changed to Skittles.
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                      • Profile picture of the author slvrsrfr
                        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

                        When everyone starts talking about swamis, I'm sure it'll be changed to Skittles.
                        or smarties maybe...i think changing gur_u to goobers is a great way to get us to become more creative. we are after all marketers especially those of us selling wsos.

                        surely we can come up with a better term. i like swami too, but not so much in an internet sense. maybe allen will change swami to smarmy...i like that one better.

                        here's just a quick bunch of words to use instead of gur_u that i found with a quick thesaurus. they'll be $5 a pop please

                        pundit
                        maestro
                        virtuoso (my personal favorite)

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                        • Profile picture of the author Michael Perez
                          Hi All,

                          Forgive me if I'm a little slow, not being a gur... er, sage and all, but I've got to say there's something going on in this thread I really don't get.

                          OK, so, Hypothetical time:

                          Lets say you've got 2 headlines.

                          One is well-written, slick, cool and pretty original as these things go.

                          One is an old cliche-ridden with words you're sick and tired of seeing.

                          In the split tests you do, the cliche outpulls the one you like (and, in my experience, when this happens, it's often by a factor of 5 to 10).
                          That's the situation and it's a pretty common one, it seems to me.

                          So, do you make the sacrifice, deprive yourself and your family of the resources those extra sales would give you, deprive those customers who won't be buying with the other headline (or copy, or product name) of all of the benefits of your product (You're selling valuable stuff that really helps people in some way or other, right?) in order to... :confused:

                          Well, that's what I'm not getting. What do you get instead?

                          Honest question, really. What do you get out of not using what works as long as what works is not illegal or immoral?

                          I'll both appreciate and respect any insights anyone can give me into what might be true about this for them.

                          Be Well,

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                  • Profile picture of the author Ken Strong
                    Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

                    Y'all can use "salami."

                    I'll stake my claim for "flavored chicken."

                    Whoops -- you're too late!
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                  • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
                    Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

                    Y'all can use "swami."

                    I'll stake my claim for "sage."

                    love the word "sage"
                    it's a cool word as far as I'm concerned
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            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            I can understand discouraging BlueFart products and certainly if the forum
            doesn't want them, they are within their right not to approve them.

            But what is really so bad about the word "gu-ru?"

            Like it or not, many people associate that word with knowledge and
            success, so if they see an ad that reads...

            "Have "gu-ru" like success with your <fill in the blank>"

            then changing that to goober can really kill the effectiveness of the
            ad.

            Of course this is just my opinion.


            How about using..

            "..an undeniable Expert"
            "..a true Master"

            Either is better than 'the word'...I'm really sick of seeing it.

            In most cases where I see the word used it sounds so childish that I'm embarrassed it's written here.

            Goober is equally as childish but that's kind of the point...
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            • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
              Originally Posted by admin View Post

              How about using..

              "..an undeniable Expert"
              "..a true Master"

              Either is better than 'the word'...I'm really sick of seeing it.

              In most cases where I see the word used it sounds so childish that I'm embarrassed it's written here.

              Goober is equally as childish but that's kind of the point...

              Personally, I hate the word. I don't think you'll find one sales page I've
              ever written with that word on it. If I'm wrong, I'll go and fix it immediately.

              But some folks use it as a selling point and, unfortunately for the rest of
              us, it works.

              At the very least, if somebody uses the word in a WSO copy, before
              approval, they should at least be informed that the word will not appear
              as submitted but as goober and then give them the chance to make the
              change. Otherwise, they're paying $20 for a WSO that they think is going
              to read one way when in fact it will read entirely differently, thus not
              only changing the meaning but turning the WSO into a joke.

              All I'm saying is, I can see where people might be upset at this especially
              since they are paying for a service.

              But Frank Donovan is right. People need to stop using the same worn out
              and tired cliches in their copy.

              Eventually, they're going to stop working.
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              • Profile picture of the author Jason Moffatt
                Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                Personally, I hate the word. I don't think you'll find one sales page I've
                ever written with that word on it. If I'm wrong, I'll go and fix it immediately.

                But some folks use it as a selling point and, unfortunately for the rest of
                us, it works.

                At the very least, if somebody uses the word in a WSO copy, before
                approval, they should at least be informed that the word will not appear
                as submitted but as goober and then give them the chance to make the
                change. Otherwise, they're paying $20 for a WSO that they think is going
                to read one way when in fact it will read entirely differently, thus not
                only changing the meaning but turning the WSO into a joke.

                All I'm saying is, I can see where people might be upset at this especially
                since they are paying for a service.

                But Frank Donovan is right. People need to stop using the same worn out
                and tired cliches in their copy.

                Eventually, they're going to stop working.
                I hear your point Steve, but really, who cares? It's $20 freaking dollars. Chalk it up as an expense and privilege to have the WSO section and if someone still has a problem with it then maybe they should high tail their products over to Wicked Fire or Digital Point.

                Actually, this gave me a good idea for a WSO. I just don't know what to sell, but have a bunch of cool ideas on the copy.
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                • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
                  Originally Posted by Jason Moffatt View Post

                  I hear your point Steve, but really, who cares? It's $20 freaking dollars. Chalk it up as an expense and privilege to have the WSO section and if someone still has a problem with it then maybe they should high tail their products over to Wicked Fire or Digital Point.

                  Actually, this gave me a good idea for a WSO. I just don't know what to sell, but have a bunch of cool ideas on the copy.
                  I can't wait to see it.

                  Yeah, for us $20 is nothing. I spend more than that on Peppomint Life
                  Savers (I'm addicted to those things) but some people have to scrape up
                  that kind of money just to run a WSO.

                  Of course, if they don't have $20 to run a WSO, what the heck are they
                  doing talking about Goobers and Raisinnets and selling make money
                  products anyway?

                  Maybe we should do a BlogTalkRadio show on Goobers and Raisinnets.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Jason Moffatt
                    Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                    I can't wait to see it.

                    Yeah, for us $20 is nothing. I spend more than that on Peppomint Life
                    Savers (I'm addicted to those things) but some people have to scrape up
                    that kind of money just to run a WSO.

                    Of course, if they don't have $20 to run a WSO, what the heck are they
                    doing talking about Goobers and Raisinnets and selling make money
                    products anyway?

                    Maybe we should do a BlogTalkRadio show on Goobers and Raisinnets.
                    In my mind, if a person doesn't have $20 to spend on a WSO I have a really hard time understanding what kind of value they are going to bring to other Warriors.

                    I do understand there are some certain circumstances such a article writers and graphic designers and such that may be in this position, but if you are selling products, or teaching me some method of internet marketing $20 better not be a issue.

                    If the $20 is a issue, then I have a hard time believing what you are doing is worth a crap and you should probably go back to the drawing board and come back when you have some real skills that can line your pocket, not extracting from Warriors.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
                      Originally Posted by Jason Moffatt View Post


                      If the $20 is a issue, then I have a hard time believing what you are doing is worth a crap and you should probably go back to the drawing board and come back when you have some real skills that can line your pocket, not extracting from Warriors.
                      Agreed.
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          • Profile picture of the author George Wright
            Steven,

            Your choice of words here is very interesting. Specifically "kill" and the G word.

            A long awaited product from Allen is the G killers. Maybe this is "it." (you need to be a member of the old secret site or read the h4p sales page to know what I'm talking about.)

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            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            I can understand discouraging BlueFart products and certainly if the forum
            doesn't want them, they are within their right not to approve them.

            But what is really so bad about the word "gu-ru?"

            Like it or not, many people associate that word with knowledge and
            success, so if they see an ad that reads...

            "Have "gu-ru" like success with your <fill in the blank>"

            then changing that to goober can really kill the effectiveness of the
            ad.

            Of course this is just my opinion.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jason Moffatt
      Originally Posted by PLRwithAlex View Post

      It also screws up headlines in WSOs and Classified ads. Items that we pay for!

      Not cool.
      Crying about $25?

      Seriously?

      How hard is it to just change your title?
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      • Profile picture of the author Justin Jordan
        Originally Posted by Jason Moffatt View Post

        Crying about $25?

        Seriously?

        How hard is it to just change your title?
        Eh, it's not enough to go on a rampage about, but most people would probably be annoyed if they paid to run a classified ad in a newspaper and the ad department decided to substitute funny words for what you paid for. Not much different here.

        I reckon it's also possible that having parts of your title changed to Bluefart or Goober could cause people to not bother to look at your post, which could cause you to lose a lot more money than twenty bucks.
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      • Profile picture of the author Rezbi
        Originally Posted by Jason Moffatt View Post

        Crying about $25?

        Seriously?

        How hard is it to just change your title?
        Hey, that's a lot of dosh in some parts of the world, you know.
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    A certain oldtimer Warrior, Leigh Burke, is now known as Publishing Goober.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Brian
    It still never fails to give me a 1-2 second chuckle every time I come across BlueFart and Goober in the topics LOL.
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  • Profile picture of the author EdmundDantes
    Glad to finally know what that's all about. I thought that a goober was just a funny thing from a spongebob squarepants movie.

    I have kids and yes they watch spongebob.

    Confession: I watch it to
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Originally Posted by Glenn Leader View Post

      There are ways around the gυru word substitution if you really need to use the word
      The real gurus can do it without funny letters.
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      • Profile picture of the author Glenn Leader
        Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert View Post

        The real gurus can do it without funny letters.
        They certainly can

        I bow to your superior system gaming
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
          Well I think the box is just about full now...

          Have a Great Day!
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          • Profile picture of the author ExRat
            Hi Allen,
            Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert
            Y'all can use "swami."

            I'll stake my claim for "sage."

            I'm going to ban you. Those are just as bad :-)


            How about have a new 'word of the day', but don't tell anyone?

            I think SpongeBob would be even funnier than Goober.

            Thread title - 'Who's your favourite SpongeBob?'

            Hi Jcaviani,

            I'm sorry for having fun with yet another hang out for Joe Average - 49 kids and crops in da fields. Never before have people with so little to say had such a large forum in which to say it. But, I'm sure someone in the world cares about that a worm showed up in your Granola this morning.

            I have a suggestion for all of you who think that type of information is really important - use Skype and only blast it out to fellow members of your species.
            Geez. I thought I could be obnoxious and toxic at times, but you're the toxic SpongeBob.
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          • Profile picture of the author Colin.MS
            You can buy Goobers in Holland! They taste absolutely fabulous!
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            • Profile picture of the author John Durham
              Originally Posted by Colin.MS View Post

              You can buy Goobers in Holland! They taste absolutely fabulous!
              I wouldn't say that in my old neighborhood. They beat people up who say "Goobers taste fabulous"!!! lol
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  • Profile picture of the author jcaviani
    A goober is someone who exposes the twit, the whole twit and nothing but the twit, so help us Goob! Twitter Dee; Twitter Dum - thewholetwit (thewholetwit) on Twitter

    I'm sorry for having fun with yet another hang out for Joe Average - 49 kids and crops in da fields. Never before have people with so little to say had such a large forum in which to say it. But, I'm sure someone in the world cares about that a worm showed up in your Granola this morning.

    I have a suggestion for all of you who think that type of information is really important - use Skype and only blast it out to fellow members of your species.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Guru
    Made U think though dont it
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  • Profile picture of the author xiaophil
    Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

    What is one?
    Andy in the UK goobers are more commonly known as monkey nuts.
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    • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
      Originally Posted by xiaophil View Post

      Andy in the UK goobers are more commonly known as monkey nuts.
      Thanks.

      I think I'm going to go over to the US for a couple of months again very soon so this time I'll look out for Goobers.
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      nothing to see here.

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  • Profile picture of the author lstoops
    Haha. Didn't know what was going on either! Tooo funny!
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    • Profile picture of the author altos
      Goobers are pretty tasty! Anyway, I'm glad I now understand. Blue Fart I got pretty quickly but goober was throwing me for a loop!
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  • Haha - monkey nuts... Maybe that should be what gu-ru gets changed to!

    "The monkey nuts are keeping the real truth hidden from you!"

    Yeah, sure they are. And the gorilla mangoes are protecting them

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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    And the sales page... love it. Guess many people will search for the buy button.
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    I kept re-editing a post when I thought I had done a typo before I realized something was going on
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    • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
      Originally Posted by shermancox View Post

      I kept re-editing a post when I thought I had done a typo before I realized something was going on
      :p Now that's funny! How many times did you edited the post?
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      • Profile picture of the author shermancox
        I edited the post twice...and then I just eliminated the word...

        Feel stupid now...lol

        Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso View Post

        :p Now that's funny! How many times did you edited the post?
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  • thank for the explanation, I've just been ignoring all threads of goobers and bluefarts altogether.
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  • Profile picture of the author homebasedmom
    Just a question, why change the word when you can use the same and right words? It will just confuse people, or is that the point? Confuse them, and then it will lead them into learning something more?
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  • Profile picture of the author Emily Meeks
    Seeing "Goober" around the forum always cracked me up. I also had saved the G-word in my notepad for a rough draft, and then thought, "What the F? Goober?"

    I'm glad though. I think most IM G-words deserve the name Goobers, so the G-word can go back to describing Indian teachers/spiritualists.
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  • Profile picture of the author xohaibx
    Wow! Now that was an interesting question that I was pondering on for a while now, read about the Goober thing every now n then ... I guess it all makes sense now, lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rezbi
    When Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister in the UK, she banned the leader of the political wing of the IRA from speaking on TV. It was to stop giving the IRA a 'voice'.

    The silly thing was, when the guy was speaking, all they did was get someone else to dub over his voice and say the exact same thing.

    What was the point?

    I must say, though, goober sounds like a detrimental term. So banning the word 'gooroo' hasn't really achieved anything.

    Plus, in my view, if someone has done something genuinely wrong, to stifle criticism is censorship. That's the same as making one rule for some and another for the 'elite' and smacks of double standards.

    If you're going to ban criticism, then do it for everyone. Otherwise just ban criticism which is unjustified.

    And the way to tell the difference is by seeing how many people are making the same complaints.
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  • Profile picture of the author alvinhuang
    Geez..no wonder I saw goober all about my WSO and couldn't seem to get rid of it. Thought it was some bug. LOL

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  • Profile picture of the author Don Schenk
    ROTFL

    I had no idea what was going on. I even went searching for a site called bluefart.com trying to figure it out. Duh!

    And then I saw Dan used the word "Y'all" when he is too far north to be permitted access to that word. :-) What is the WF coming to next?

    :-Don
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  • Profile picture of the author Sid Kaplan
    I got caught on it but think it is quite funny! I guess you can say I got Goobered...LOL!

    Next time I will engage brain before engaging keyboard.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bakai
    Originally Posted by Mr Money Maker View Post

    Oh what a Goober ?..........is that like whats a Gomer.....if you remember the Gomer Pile USMC show of the 1960's

    If I'm not mistaken, Gomer and Goober are related somehow, maybe cousins? Anyway they all began on the Andy Griffith Show.
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    • Profile picture of the author IMChick
      You know, I'm kind of getting the hang of the sneaky changes that Allen makes on the WF --the ones that make me think I'm nuts or that I broke the internet because some announcement pops up when I log in...

      Keep 'em coming! And it's a GREAT idea to retire these words (G and BH) from our collective consciousness.

      Now I have to admit that I re-re-re edited a post the other day because I couldn't figure out what was wrong. So now you know. LOL.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Steel
    lol...funny post -

    js
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  • Profile picture of the author Bakai
    I can't wait until we discuss bluefarts.... ( the magical phrase that replaced hats that are dark in color)
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  • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
    Just wondering...

    There are a lot of posts about it!

    Sumit.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Henderson
      Someone's already been as puzzled as you are, Sumit!

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ts-goober.html
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      • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
        I think we need to make the word changes go one more step - but not sure if this is possible to do.

        If someone types "what is goober" and uses the word goober it should show up as "what is a weebie"

        and if some one uses the word weebie it comes out as g-u-r-u.

        LOL, will this confuse the script? anyone?
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    • Profile picture of the author Thomas
      I had thought it was the name of somebody likely to order you to "squeal like a pig!" but, it seems, I was wrong...
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