How do I start around here?

I thanked you for being honest in this post. I am going to say to reply to any post that you have some experience in, even if it's limited.

There are quite a few people in here that ask advice for something they want to try. I am sure you could help with that.

It sounds like you have had some reasonable success in the past. People will want to know how you achieved that success. Some never have.

You will reach the level you were at before, I would say.

And, I think you can help to steer people clear of anything you consider a mistake online. None of us know where all the pitfalls are. Everything is trial and error, especially online.

I would say to simply get in where you want, especially if you have any experience at all on a subject.

We all know mindset is everything. Our wealth is built from the habits we have, not just the tech stuff.

I am personally working on changing some habits myself. One of which is posting in this forum as close to daily as possible from here out.

You might try that. Put value into the marketplace a little bit each day. We all start with one post in here. Most all of us are online daily.

A little bit of value each day helps everybody, don't you think.

Maybe this helps some.

Make more posts. Build your post count while providing top notch advice to other members here.

What are your goals as well?

To build a reputation to sell a WSO?

To build more of your online business?

I know people who don't even bother to use this part of the forum, but they just scroll through the war room to find some hidden games and golden nuggets. You don't need to participate on this forum in order to make money online, but it sure is a great thing to in general.

Welcome, Stefan.

I enjoyed reading your post. So, if that post is anything to go by, I know I'd like to see a great many more from you.

3 suggestions:

- Give good advice where you can;
- Educate yourself by reading as much as possible, not just methods;
- Make friends and business contacts.

All the best!

Tom

Hey Stefan, we all started with a zero post count like you. This forum is all about chiming when you have something to say that is relevant to the topic. I'm sure we can learn from your experiences online.

Go ahead and sign up to the war room because it is a great investment whether you're a newbie, intermediate, or advanced marketer.

Best way to start is to choose 1 traffic source (facebook, ppv, mobile, pof, ppc, seo) and learn everything about that traffic source until you master it. Test multiple angles, landing pages, ads, offers until you profit. Then scale.

I appologize for the long answer, I do not offer free eye exams, so be carefull!

I will do my best to help people, if I will be in the place to speak. And if people want to know my story, here it is. Skip it, it might be borish.

STORY

My previous successes were related to the adult market, I am not sure if that would tag me as a paria around here, but that would be the truth.

Someone owed me cash when I was 20 ( I was selling phones, I lent him a very expensive one, and someone stole it from him ), and since he was not in the position to pay it for the time being, after half a year/a year he looked for me, payed back, and because I did not pressure him to pay back, he offered to introduce me into the world of online marketing, as it was back then, because he was starting to make some cash online. I had a programming diploma ( not university, college or how you call it, I finished business administration as uni ), so it was not hard for me to start.

My first steps were into tgp/mgp galleries. After that I did free sites too, built mgp and tgp sites, had a small office with a few employees, and two associates. When those things started to cool down in revenue after a few years, I was not prepared to do something different cause I kept all my eggs in a basket, so for a couple of years, more or less, my revenues decreased drastically. After that, I started blogs, did a bit of seo, I managed to get back with the earnings.

Then I started to test things around to see where to go next, and I found adult tubes, and I decided to give that a go. I managed to do very well with a specific adult program from a rare niche, building a network of blogs, doorways, a bit of seo, video submissions, and everything was great, until that went down too. Again unprepared, I dropped very fast from 5 figures to 1 figure, and to nothing again. Since I had some cash from the previous years, and because I did not want to start looking again, a bit tired of the previous fall down, I payed someone 5 figures to teach me the way. Due to reasons I cannot identify, either because of him or because google changed algorythms, or maybe because I am stupid and cannot apply simple steps, I lost 6 months or more earning 100 USD, and spending more money.

Since sometimes I make some great decisions lol, my next step was to do something similar with another person who again was very eager to teach me the way to Tenochtitlan and it's golden treasure. I rented an office, hired 4 girls to write content, spent another 5 figures fee, lost another 6-10 months, and managed to earn around 2, 3 thousand dollars, with a marvelous return on investment.

And now here I am, way past having a budget, starting from relative scratch, on a small budget, but flexible, to give it another try but this time on myself.

END OF STORY

To those of you shadding tears, let me give you a pat on the back lol ( joking of course, no tears needed here ).

My first goal is first to find a decent community where decent things, and sometimes brilliant or good ideas are shared, because I have a very awful idea about forums, I think the last 5 years or so made most of the forums useless, filled with too much dirt and fool's gold to help someone new, or in my situation, to make the right decision, it's more like shooting in the dark sometimes. That's how I ended here for the time being, if I feel useless, or I feel that there is too much dust thrown in the eyes probably I will withdraw, although this is a long post, I am not a forum aficionado, nor a forum whore.

Second goal is to develop my online business, but it does not mean that it's less important than the first goal, but because of the nature of the online marketing business, it's something that goes hand in hand.

What I do not like in this business is that, for example, a dental care doctor improves it's techniques year by year, working with the same target, to make better the teeth, and just adapting to the new medical and tech discoveries. In the online marketing business, search engines, methods, people, affiliate programs, etc, everything changes radically, and being quite alone in the business, without any brainstorming partners, who test different things, it's kind of hard to hunt down the golden goose once the previous goose dies. Sometimes I feel that I spent to much time with the goose autopsy instead of moving forward.

I do not really care about my reputation, since I have no plans for the time being to sell anything, since I don't have any plug and play special offer that might change the world, and I am too ******* dumb to be able to sell something that I do not trust.

Thanks Tom, the same to you. I second what you suggested me, hopefully I will be able to do that. The friends part is a bit difficult, not only because I might be a bit short of trust, but because I believe the same trust is a scarce resource for the other people too. And for now I am sure I do not fit in to be a great business contact.

I shall do that Tvon, we shall see how it goes

There is a lot of info here, so my expertise should help at least a bit. Cheers!

I guess Seo would be the choice, since I do not have too much expertise in the others. Hopefully testing will give some rewards in a decent period of time, it should anyway be better than doing the same thing for 6 months to end up finding out that it does not work.

Thanks for the answer everybody! Let the games begin!

Start your first IM wso or product or create a web site. When you face any problems along the way, take help from fellow warriors and thats how you will make a few friends along the way and also get started and yes, you can always add them on skype and chit -chat (Happens to me all the time)

I am kind of used to create affiliate websites, so first I shall have to decide on what to take first, I have never sold my products. I will study some wso's from here, read the war room. I have just read something interesting here, stating that it's not safe to base your entire business on Google, and that's what I did in the last 2 years or so. So maybe I should return to the basics. It's not hard to chat, as you can see I have too many words in my fingers But it's hard to spend someone's time with decent chat, and not empty words, bragging or complaining, whatever that is. Thanks for the advices!

The thing that worked for me was to find a forum mentor, one or two people who's advice always paid off. These people will have actual, real world experience in SEO and marketing and know a lot about earning money online. That's one idea which might work for you here or on any forum you visit.

Whether good or bad, old or current, you're not the only one. It's just a matter of reading what others are going through, and if you can add some input, it's going to be valued either way.


There's no reason why you can't. There's a ton of resources in thee, but most importantly... you've got to know which direction you want to go in. If you're reading about how to make XXXX with eCommerce, then read up on Adsense, Article Writing etc... you're throwing yourself into many directions and not even progression anywhere.

Learning is one thing, but taking action is something else...


It's too broad of a question, seeing as there are numerous niches / topics these offers are based on.


Before going in numerous directions and all over the place, testing "what works" you need to have a structure in place. I'd suggest putting together a blog, a structured sales funnel, test it and once you're at the level of breaking even or in profit, then look towards other methods and see how you can implement it.

Find your path and build a structure around that.

I just joined the room, and I will be picking some wsos too to study a bit and see if I get hold of something worthy, although I kind of don't expect firecrackers for 10 USD a piece. Nevertheless it will be quite funny to be surprised by something that does really good, given my previous investments and the money spent. Google is like a crazy wife, today she loves you, today she does not, and you have to find out what pissed her, and what to do to please her again.


Hm, I will have to settle around for starters, and then we shall see if anyone would find me worthy of his or her advices. Maybe I should let them find me lol. Young handsome man, smart and witted, very honest! ( and modest!!! ), is looking for hot shot mentor, preferably in her mid 30's, a big soul ( physically speaking ) and a warm heart. That would be a part of a potential add regarding the subject if I would decide to do that.

I would rather get out of XXX, I did it for too long, and it's not something to brag with. I would very like to do something that is easy to talk about in any situation, rather than having to disguise things. I remember some years ago a father of one of my friends asked a fellow of mine, who has a sexshop deposit, what is he doing. And he told him that he had a deposit of bulbs, lamps and stuff like that, because mr. C is an old fashioned good father. The funny part is that his wife knows the real deal.

So I am not going to focus on things that would work in adult. I just want to do something different. And I will take action, at the beginning with wsos and what I shall find in the war room, and on the free forum of course too. For now I am taking a few days to study and get the feeling around here. I won't go in numerous directions, I will take one two things at a time, and focus to make them work.

Thanks for the tips! Cheers