Is this a form of spam?

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As one part of its methodology, a particular popular marketing method instructs people to search Twitter with the phrase "i need to make money fast" and similar search terms. The results will give you a list of everyone on Twitter who has typed that phrase. You then tweet them with a short pitch and link to whatever you're selling.

Keep in mind, the people who type these words in their tweets may not necessarily looking for on online business; they're simply saying that they need to make money fast (or they would love to have money for a luxury cruise or new car, etc.). So it doesn't seem to me to be a very targeted form of marketing. But even so, would Twitter or any other social network consider that sort of thing to be spamming?
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
    What do you mean by "you then tweet them"?
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    • Profile picture of the author ElGuapo
      Joel: you can see what Twitter defines as spam under their rules. Among them:
      • If you post misleading links (e.g. affiliate links, links to malware/click jacking pages, etc.);
      • If you send large numbers of unsolicited @replies or mentions;
      • If your updates consist mainly of links, and not personal updates
      I'd check out the whole list. Be wary.
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      • Profile picture of the author Joel Young
        Originally Posted by ElGuapo View Post

        Joel: you can see what Twitter defines as spam under their rules. Among them:
        • If you post misleading links (e.g. affiliate links, links to malware/click jacking pages, etc.);
        • If you send large numbers of unsolicited @replies or mentions;
        • If your updates consist mainly of links, and not personal updates
        I'd check out the whole list. Be wary.
        Thanks, ElGuapo. I guess I'm just trying to avoid anyone crying spam when they get such messages from someone who isn't following them. That sort of thing.
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        • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
          El Guapo has got this covered Joel. What you are saying pretty much falls under the spam guidelines he shared. What the absolute numbers are for "too many" replies, or "too low a ratio of personal updates to promo poss"t are numbers Twitter is probably going to keep to themselves.

          If you've got a Twitter account you care about, you might be better off skipping this, especially in the MMO arena.
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        • Profile picture of the author ElGuapo
          Originally Posted by Joel Young View Post

          Thanks, ElGuapo. I guess I'm just trying to avoid anyone crying spam when they get such messages from someone who isn't following them. That sort of thing.
          I've received unsolicited messages with links in them, and I inevitably end up blocking and/or reporting the user. I don't mean to question your intentions, which may be very good, but do consider how the average Twitter user would likely react.

          FWIW, and I can only speak for myself (as a pretty avid Twitter user), I'd pay a lot more attention to somebody who followed me, who had a robust profile, and put out decent tweets. That'd get me clicking through to their website.

          Good luck whichever way you go!
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
        Originally Posted by ElGuapo View Post

        Joel: you can see what Twitter defines as spam under their rules. Among them:
        • If you post misleading links (e.g. affiliate links, links to malware/click jacking pages, etc.);
        • If you send large numbers of unsolicited @replies or mentions;
        • If your updates consist mainly of links, and not personal updates
        I'd check out the whole list. Be wary.
        I see you have a plethora of suggestions for the OP. Three Amigos is one of my favorite movies.
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        • Profile picture of the author ElGuapo
          Originally Posted by Michael Shook View Post

          I see you have a plethora of suggestions for the OP. Three Amigos is one of my favorite movies.
          Mine too, my little buttercup..!
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  • Profile picture of the author Joel Young
    Originally Posted by Michael Shook View Post

    What do you mean by "you then tweet them"?
    I do a search for a phrase, the results show me all the people who have typed that phrase in one of their tweets, then I reply to their tweet with my link.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joel Young
    Thanks for all the input, everyone. Let it be known my intention are always proper in whatever I'm doing. The sole reason I asked about this is because it didn't sit right with me, but sometimes I can get a little too anal about stuff. I like second opinions now & then. After looking further into Twitter's rules, I can see more than one thing about the product I bought that really rubs me the wrong way. I'll be steering clear of it, and most likely requesting a refund.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
      Originally Posted by Joel Young View Post

      Thanks for all the input, everyone. Let it be known my intention are always proper in whatever I'm doing. The sole reason I asked about this is because it didn't sit right with me, but sometimes I can get a little too anal about stuff. I like second opinions now & then. After looking further into Twitter's rules, I can see more than one thing about the product I bought that really rubs me the wrong way. I'll be steering clear of it, and most likely requesting a refund.
      No worries, your intuition was steering you well. When it first started up, Twitter was almost driven into the ground by spammers and the people who they sold the spam Twitter products to. Twitter had way more fake accounts than even Facebook (at that time anyway. Sounds like a good thing you are getting a refund.
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  • I saw a youtube video that shows you how to market on twitter. You go to twitter search and type your keyword such as "lose fat" and then twitter would show you all tweets with "lose fat" and all you have to do is message the tweeter.
    I was gonna build an automation tool to do this on a mass scale but then thought it will become a sort of spam because some tweeters may not be looking for a "fat loss" solution but simply mentioned the word for some reason such as suggesting a solution to other tweeters. In this case, my tool would not know the difference between who the seeker is and who the solution provider is and would start messaging both.
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    • Profile picture of the author Simon Corey
      Not having read the twitter guidelines or anything, just from my common sense I'd say that:

      * Contacting everyone with the same message just because they said a keyword = spam
      * Looking for people with a problem and then helping them solve that problem = not spam

      But oh well, companies like twitter have huge legal departments making up the rules so common sense might not work.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
      Originally Posted by Million Dollar Idea Man View Post

      I saw a youtube video that shows you how to market on twitter. You go to twitter search and type your keyword such as "lose fat" and then twitter would show you all tweets with "lose fat" and all you have to do is message the tweeter.
      I was gonna build an automation tool to do this on a mass scale but then thought it will become a sort of spam because some tweeters may not be looking for a "fat loss" solution but simply mentioned the word for some reason such as suggesting a solution to other tweeters. In this case, my tool would not know the difference between who the seeker is and who the solution provider is and would start messaging both.
      Twitter is a relationship platform. I suspect it would be easier if someone really wanted to sell a lose fat product, if they first built up an account that talked about losing fat or losing weight or whatever it was and then tweeted about that in context.
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