The Beginning Of The End For Windows?

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Could This Be The Beginning Of The End For Windows
As The World's #1 Operating System?






Here's the bombshell Google announced on 7-07-09:

Introducing the Google Chrome Operating System (Google Chrome OS)


From Google's FAQ's on Chrome OS:

What companies is Google working with to support Google Chrome OS?

"The Google Chrome OS team is currently working with a number of technology companies to design and build devices that deliver an extraordinary end user experience. Among others, these companies include Acer, Adobe, ASUS, Freescale, Hewlett-Packard, Lenovo, Qualcomm, Texas Instruments, and Toshiba."


Here's what TechCrunch had to say about this stunning announcement:

Google Drops A Nuclear Bomb On Microsoft. And It's Made of Chrome.



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I predicted this about 4 years ago (to a few of my colleagues) stating that, one day, the web would be our operating system (and also home to all of our apps) driven by Google in an Open Source browser. Our hardware, whether a laptop, a desktop, a netbook, or even a cell phone, will soon be just dumb terminals, with our hard drives used mainly for local file storage.

Things are going to get real interesting about this time next year.

Oh yeah, one more thing... Google is making this totally Open Source. Can you imagine how many apps will be written worldwide for this new operating system?


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P.S. "Do No Evil." We shall see, Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gabe77
    I can't wait. This is definitely something to look forward to.

    What's next? Google buying Microsoft?
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    • Profile picture of the author MSGeek
      Originally Posted by Gabe77 View Post

      I can't wait. This is definitely something to look forward to.
      Don't wait, buy Mac.

      What's next? Google buying Microsoft?
      And get real. None of them wants to buy each other - unless they plan to get into serious trouble with anti-trust and feds.


      Overall, saying that Google will replace MS is a wishful thinking, and a wishful thinking of those who don't know what do they really wish for. But again, for many people that's a religious thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnathan
    Well, a lot of people talked about it 4-5 years ago, not just you

    If Microsoft stands still, then yes. However, you have to remember that there is a lot of 'backend' development (software projects) designed specifically for the windows OS... However, as that changes (i.e., if profitability is solely in web apps vs enterprise apps), then yes, eventually it will get to that point.

    But I think developers are getting tired of having to switch languages/os's every few years, so the ones that will really be adopting the 'new' technlogies are mainly the younger crowd.
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  • Profile picture of the author CmdrStidd
    I am all for watching the old warhorse crash and burn just like their software keeps doing. More power to Google Chrome!! I can't wait for it to come out for desktops as well so I can finally be rid of Vista and its trashy makeup.

    Plus, as a programmer myself, I am looking forward to writing some of the apps for that new OS. I think it will be a blast!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
    I'll never use it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kris.Sm
    this picture is soo coool...google rocks..i being using chrome for sometime and much better than the IE...looking forward for the OS of google. the future..!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Lambert Klein
    Hope it works out, but isn't it internet based?
    Also won't Google know everything about you including what you had for breakfast? LOL

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    • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
      Originally Posted by lklein View Post

      Hope it works out, but isn't it internet based?
      Also won't Google know everything about you including what you had for breakfast? LOL

      Lambert
      They gather too much info now. Ever use Chrome and see what kind of history is kept? I wonder if they keep that history on their end too? I don't really like it.
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      • Profile picture of the author vneely
        Originally Posted by Scott Ames View Post

        They gather too much info now. Ever use Chrome and see what kind of history is kept? I wonder if they keep that history on their end too? I don't really like it.
        I'm not going to use it for precisely that reason. If I switch to another OS, it will probably be Linux.

        But the cartoon is pretty darn cute. It's the *glee* expression in the third panel that really does it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sid Kaplan
        Originally Posted by Scott Ames View Post

        They gather too much info now. Ever use Chrome and see what kind of history is kept? I wonder if they keep that history on their end too? I don't really like it.

        Good point Scott. And congratulations on your 4000th post!

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    • Profile picture of the author la dominatrix
      Originally Posted by lklein View Post

      Hope it works out, but isn't it internet based?
      Also won't Google know everything about you including what you had for breakfast? LOL

      Lambert
      YEP ..............it was fruit salad and yoghurt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      That fact alone will deter a lot of people from using it
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  • Profile picture of the author spsfinest212
    I never just buy a new OS. I just buy a new computer and stick with whatever is in it which will always be windows.
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    • Originally Posted by spsfinest212 View Post

      I never just buy a new OS. I just buy a new computer and stick with whatever is in it which will always be windows.
      You sure about that? That's the kind of complacency kills huge companies.

      "The Google Chrome OS team is currently working with a number of technology companies to design and build devices that deliver an extraordinary end user experience. Among others, these companies include Acer, Adobe, ASUS, Freescale, Hewlett-Packard, Lenovo, Qualcomm, Texas Instruments, and Toshiba."
      If I could buy a computer with the Chrome OS for a couple hundred less than the same computer with Windows, I can't think of any reason to go with Windows.
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by SurviveUnemployment View Post

        If I could buy a computer with the Chrome OS for a couple hundred less than the same computer with Windows, I can't think of any reason to go with Windows.
        I can.

        "Version 1.0"

        Remember Vista? All the problems, all the complaints, all the trouble people had?

        That was from a company that makes operating systems.

        You want your next operating system to come from a company that sells ads?

        Good luck with that one.
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    • Profile picture of the author sdcast
      Originally Posted by spsfinest212 View Post

      I never just buy a new OS. I just buy a new computer and stick with whatever is in it which will always be windows.

      i feel you on that. plus i love using linux.
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    The surprising fact about Amazon and Google and Microsoft is that they're not really competitors. None of them is going to dethrone the others, because no matter how successful one of them might be, the other two simply aren't in that business.

    Amazon does shopping. They're pretty much the best there is. Microsoft and Google will never beat Amazon at shopping, and they're not even trying.

    Google does advertising. They're pretty much the best there is. Amazon and Microsoft can't possibly beat Google at advertising, so they're not even trying.

    Microsoft does software. They're pretty much the best there is. Do you honestly expect Amazon and Google to try and beat Microsoft at software?

    Pull the other one.

    It's like worrying about whether Joe's weight loss site will impact the revenue of your golf site. Yes, I'm sure many golfers would like to lose some weight, but they're still golfers.
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    • Profile picture of the author stephenraj
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      The surprising fact about Amazon and Google and Microsoft is that they're not really competitors. None of them is going to dethrone the others, because no matter how successful one of them might be, the other two simply aren't in that business.

      Amazon does shopping. They're pretty much the best there is. Microsoft and Google will never beat Amazon at shopping, and they're not even trying.

      Google does advertising. They're pretty much the best there is. Amazon and Microsoft can't possibly beat Google at advertising, so they're not even trying.

      Microsoft does software. They're pretty much the best there is. Do you honestly expect Amazon and Google to try and beat Microsoft at software?

      Pull the other one.

      It's like worrying about whether Joe's weight loss site will impact the revenue of your golf site. Yes, I'm sure many golfers would like to lose some weight, but they're still golfers.
      You are 100% right.
      These three companies are on different tracks so there is no any kind of rival b/w them...
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  • Profile picture of the author RichardDean
    Hello It's Linux... Been around way before Google owners were even born.

    Some make it sound like it is this new OS never seen before

    There is tons of great Linux Distros all ready that kick the shit out of MS

    Just check out DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.

    At he time of writing this check out number 23 gOS comes ready with (wine) WineHQ - Run Windows applications on Linux, BSD, Solaris and Mac OS X and you can run windows software like PhotoShop with no problems.

    So if you have not tried any Linux OS's yet it is very easy to make a bootable CD or USB stick and try it without installing anything or messing up or hurting your IBM compatible.

    So take a look at what your missing by not using linux

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  • Profile picture of the author RichardDean
    Here is a screen shot of MY desktop Linux Made it look like a Mac


    You can get Mac looking Distro or make your own custom one very easy also the gOS is one of them.

    4 Linux Distros Which Look Like Mac OS X | Internetling

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  • Profile picture of the author misterwrecker
    I never realized that google has the same colors as microsoft. It reminds me of that quote from The Pirates of Silicon Valley, "Good artists copy but great artists steal."
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  • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
    Unless and until the Big G can get their OS packaged with new, off-the-shelf computers destined for clueless land, they'll never take the OS market from MS. Never happen.

    Only geeks do Linux. Only geeks know what a distro is.

    Google may have a great OS. But the vast, vast majority of people will never see it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
    Nope, it will not be the beginning of the end for Windows. I'm using Windows 7 and I will tell everyone something: it kicks major ass. With Windows 7, it appears MS has finally gotten it right... and I hate to admit that, because I'm a pretty strong MS detractor.
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  • Profile picture of the author AtomicFlipper
    Google's mistake will be to go after the desktop. It just can't win when it comes to the desktop.

    It has far too many technologies to catch up on when it comes to the desktop.

    I can see people saying in 20 years about Google what they do now with Microsoft, just, it will be related to the Internet.

    We see it now with Adwords.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy
    First off Google is NOT going to by MS. Google will simplly take over MS after they buy the US Gov.

    Second off. I second anyone whom is shaking at the thought of Googlizing our entire elives.

    Third off, MS doomed themselves when they made Vista licensing sooo tight you have to have Bill Gates personal permission to swap out DVD disks. (Oops - thats not until SP3 - sorry)

    Forth off, the Next Big OS - no matter who introduces it (it should be me, but I have neither the technical knowhow, nor the marketing muscle to make it happen) will be centered around a flash drive. That's right, the computer of the future will hang from your neck or your keyring. The technology is available now. There may already be someone tinkering with an OS on a flash drive. Imagine this...

    Instead of lugging around a laptop, you plug your flash into any usb port in a kiosk, at work, at home. Up boots your OS just the way you like it. You have access to everything you need and it's all secure on something you carry on you. Plus it's easy as pie to store a copy online (secured) so if it pukes - you just buy a new $10 flash and download your OS copy.

    Something to think about.

    God bless,

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  • Profile picture of the author RichardDean
    Hello,

    Steve

    Linux is not for geeks anymore, sure a decade ago people would be shaking
    when they heard that word.

    Most might not even know that the majority of webhosting sites are Linux.

    Few years back Walmart was selling computer with lindows
    Microsoft vs. Lindows - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Well with this Google OS we will see how good they edit Linux.

    JoeCool said " Oh yeah, one more thing... Google is making this totally Open Source. Can you imagine how many apps will be written worldwide for this new operating system?"

    They have to.....

    Richard Dean

    I don't use or did not look, I bet chrome was open source also Just a guess I
    don't know or care or use it.
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    • Profile picture of the author BurgerBoy
      Originally Posted by RichardDean View Post


      JoeCool said " Oh yeah, one more thing... Google is making this totally Open Source. Can you imagine how many apps will be written worldwide for this new operating system?".
      Right - and a lot of them will be apps to make the system crash and give you the blue screen of death.

      Don't you realise how easy it is to figure out how to write programs to take down an open source system?

      And everyone grips about worms, trojans, virus, and so forth with windows.

      With open source - windows like look like Mr. Clean by the time programmers and hackers get done with Chrome.
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  • Profile picture of the author RichardDean
    Andy said "Instead of lugging around a laptop, you plug your flash into any usb port in a kiosk, at work, at home. Up boots your OS just the way you like it.

    Again it is called Linux I have several distros on USB and they write and save to the USB. The geek I am I also have windows on bootable USB.

    Linux is great OS look into it.

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  • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
    Richard, I don't mean to argue, but I challenge you to show me one person who has installed and is running a Linux distro of any flavor who is not a geek.

    Most people don't know that webhosts run Linux. Most people don't even know what a webhost is.

    You and I and most of the people on this board operate in a rarefied atmosphere - we actually have a clue as to how websites work.
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    • Profile picture of the author BurgerBoy
      Originally Posted by SteveJohnson View Post

      Richard, I don't mean to argue, but I challenge you to show me one person who has installed and is running a Linux distro of any flavor who is not a geek.

      Most people don't know that webhosts run Linux. Most people don't even know what a webhost is.
      You're right - you hit the nail on the head.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
    There's already a tool out there that will allow you to carry around essentially your PC on a USB thumbdrive: Windows, Linux, whatever. You plug it in and that machine becomes your PC until you unplug it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nightengale
      Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly View Post

      There's already a tool out there that will allow you to carry around essentially your PC on a USB thumbdrive: Windows, Linux, whatever. You plug it in and that machine becomes your PC until you unplug it.
      You can do that with your external hard drive too.

      I have a Seagate external hard drive I bought a while back because I had a panic attack and worried about losing all of my stuff on my computer. After asking for some recommendations here, I bought an external Seagate hard drive. Getting everything in My Documents onto the Seagate wasn't quite as inituitive as I would have liked, but once I figured it out, it wasn't hard.

      I'm very non-techie and I love the idea that I can carry that little hard drive around and plug it into any PC anywhere and essentially have access to my own computer. (My most important documents, anyway.) I've never actually done it, but if and when I need to, I can.

      That little hard just kills me too, it looks so funny: a little black box with USB plug-ins. No buttons of any type at all.

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  • Profile picture of the author pretter
    Linux is already out there for years now, when it comes to OS, it will be harder to switch from windows because of the technology around it... most applications are for windows. So unless this barrier is gone, I can't see windows dying out just yet
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    • Profile picture of the author K2SMedia
      13 year dedicated Windows user right here.

      Just made the switch to Ubuntu Linux a few weeks ago.

      I will NEVER go back to Windows.

      Period.

      I love this!!

      Oh, and for all of those Windows-only applications?

      Check out Sun VirtualBox.

      It is 100% free and open source. It will let you create a virtual installation of any OS you want (including Windows).

      On my desktop now, I have an icon that says Windows 7. I double click it, and a window pops up that shows the windows boot screen. It IS windows, WITHIN linux.

      Hope that makes sense.

      It is AWESOME!

      I have 4 "desktops" or "workspaces" that I can click through, so 3 are Linux, and 1 is Windows 7, complete with my Adobe Suite and other smaller marketing tools and apps that are windows-only.

      Wine is a pain in the ass, at least I thought it was.

      Use VirtualBox.

      If there is enough interest, I'll make you guys a video to show you what I'm talking about.
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      • Profile picture of the author pretter
        So does it mean you have windows 7 installed and you just boot the linux? didn't get that


        Originally Posted by K2SMedia View Post

        13 year dedicated Windows user right here.

        Just made the switch to Ubuntu Linux a few weeks ago.

        I will NEVER go back to Windows.

        Period.

        I love this!!

        Oh, and for all of those Windows-only applications?

        Check out Sun VirtualBox.

        It is 100% free and open source. It will let you create a virtual installation of any OS you want (including Windows).

        On my desktop now, I have an icon that says Windows 7. I double click it, and a window pops up that shows the windows boot screen. It IS windows, WITHIN linux.

        Hope that makes sense.

        It is AWESOME!

        I have 4 "desktops" or "workspaces" that I can click through, so 3 are Linux, and 1 is Windows 7, complete with my Adobe Suite and other smaller marketing tools and apps that are windows-only.

        Wine is a pain in the ass, at least I thought it was.

        Use VirtualBox.

        If there is enough interest, I'll make you guys a video to show you what I'm talking about.
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  • Profile picture of the author RichardDean
    Steve

    Just don't let Linux scare you, The desktop can look just like windows
    you can run Windows software and Virus are far and few in between.

    Get a off leased PC you can get these cheap make a Linux computer
    you will like it, very user friendly.

    Richard Dean

    Hope this opens eyes to try Linux
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    • Profile picture of the author Lance K
      Originally Posted by RichardDean View Post

      Steve

      Just don't let Linux scare you, The desktop can look just like windows
      you can run Windows software and Virus are far and few in between.

      Get a off leased PC you can get these cheap make a Linux computer
      you will like it, very user friendly.

      Richard Dean

      Hope this opens eyes to try Linux
      Not that I did not know.

      Anyway, just like you eluded to, fear is likely going to keep most people from trying Linux. Without a wide spread educational effort, I don't see Linux really taking hold.
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  • Profile picture of the author RichardDean
    pretter

    I have a new Vista computer ( meaning newest equipment ) And boot off my Linux USB it installs every driver I need and runs faster and better If it was not for my wife I would just install it and be done with the USB.

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    • Profile picture of the author pretter
      I'm going to do some digging on linux...

      As for Vista, I can't wait to change to windows 7 because of the xp mode.. VISTA is really sick
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I for one would never trust Google with my operating system. They have huge ambitions to lock up all forms of Internet advertising, gathering as much private information in the process as possible. I don't want their phones, their OS, or anything else they might concoct ... I use them for search and Adsense and that's it, and at that, they probably have far more of my information than I would care for them to have.
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    • Profile picture of the author BurgerBoy
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      I for one would never trust Google with my operating system. They have huge ambitions to lock up all forms of Internet advertising, gathering as much private information in the process as possible. I don't want their phones, their OS, or anything else they might concoct ... I use them for search and Adsense and that's it, and at that, they probably have far more of my information than I would care for them to have.
      You're right. We already have enough BIG BROTHERS watching over our shoulder to see everything we do without adding another one.
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  • Profile picture of the author pretter
    Last time I tried linux, was like years ago when I installed madrake 10

    It's a whole new world, was exciting, however at the time, I;m sure things have changed a lot now, there were too many software compatibility limitations, even with wine, i think it was called , which allows you to install windows applications.

    How have things actually changed now? will do some reading on this, got me curious
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Steel
    I tell you this will be interesting. Just like when Microsoft pushed its way in the the gaming industry with the X-Box. Compatibility with other programs/software will be the biggest issue at first. But it will be interesting...

    js
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    • Profile picture of the author Croque
      Originally Posted by Jon Steel View Post

      I tell you this will be interesting. Just like when Microsoft pushed its way in the the gaming industry with the X-Box. Compatibility with other programs/software will be the biggest issue at first. But it will be interesting...

      js

      When Microsoft launch the Xbox, nobody anticipated the success of Xbox Live, which was their killer app. They were new in the market and a lot of people thought is was gonna flop.
      However they had the cash and Live to gain a huge market share from the competition, in the case with Google they have the cash, but do they have the "killer app"?
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  • Profile picture of the author K2SMedia
    Ok, I'm going to make a quick video to show you guys what I'm talking about... Check this thread in an hour or two
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    looking forward to the video...
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  • Profile picture of the author Bondtana
    This is great for the consumer. Looking forward to options as a long time pc user...

    VISTA SUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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  • Profile picture of the author edman
    I second that.. since I started using vista, I think my blood pressure went high lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Black Hat Cat
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    The Beginning Of The End For Windows?
    Yes....just like the Google web browser was the end of Internet Explorer.

    I predicted this about 4 years ago (to a few of my colleagues) stating that, one day, the web would be our operating system (and also home to all of our apps) driven by Google in an Open Source browser. Our hardware, whether a laptop, a desktop, a netbook, or even a cell phone, will soon be just dumb terminals, with our hard drives used mainly for local file storage.
    Better hope you never lose internet access then.
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    • Profile picture of the author koolphoto
      I think people should dread Google just as much as they dread Microsoft. For both these companies it is about money.
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      • Profile picture of the author WareTime
        So between Apple and Microsoft we'll be generous and say they only own 99% of the consumer operating system business. Let Linux et all own the last 1%.

        How is Google going to break into that market? Do you like to print, like to use scanners, game, specialized software like Dragon Naturally speaking, Dreamweaver, etc?

        Until the GOS (Google OS) gets at least 5% of the market no one will make their software work with it, there is no benefit. If the world ran on on web apps this might make sense, but even if it did, Apple and Microsoft both ship operating systems with browsers too. And... get this... you can also use not web based apps to boot.

        This is PURELY a play to push Chrome so Google has better information on browsing habits etc to make their search engine better.

        Android was developed for phones. This is based on Adroid, there are a lot of needs for a pc that a phone doesn't have, which means all the things Google tossed out of Linux making Android, will have to go back in to make a useful desktop. Oh, and remember where Linux desktop marketshare stands.
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        • Profile picture of the author JennJessop
          Originally Posted by WareTime View Post


          This is PURELY a play to push Chrome so Google has better information on browsing habits etc to make their search engine better.

          I dont think you could have said it any better.

          I think this COULD be the BEGINNING of the end of Microsoft, but I think it will be years before we see Microsoft truly fall. I think the only thing that could truly bring Microsoft down is if they continue to think Google is not a threat. If Microsoft underestimates Google, just like if any company underestimates there competition it will be there down fall. But that is just my two cents. Either way its going to be fun to watch it all unfold.
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    • Profile picture of the author JoeCool
      Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat View Post

      Better hope you never lose internet access then.
      From the TechCrunch article...

      "...Chrome OS will be all about the web apps. And no doubt HTML 5 is going to be a huge part of all of this. A lot of people are still wary about running web apps for when their computer isn't connected to the web. But HTML 5 has the potential to change that, as you'll be able to work in the browser even when not connected, and upload when you are again."

      "We're starting to see more clearly why Google's Vic Gundotra was pushing HTML 5 so hard at Google I/O this year. Sure, part of it was about things like Google Wave, but Google Wave is just one of many new-style apps in this new Chrome OS universe."


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  • Profile picture of the author RichardDean
    Steve
    Well people use items that run Linux and don't know it. People drive cars and don't know how to change oil.

    edman or UFC BJpenn
    What is so bad about Vista, I have not had any trouble.

    pretter
    You install VirtualBox to allow you to have more than one OS to pick from to run.

    I know a few people that run a Virtual OS when downloading torrents
    if it has a Virus it don't harm your computer you just delete the VOS
    and create a new one very easy.

    As for digging on Linux go to Just check out DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. this has the top Linux Programs

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  • Profile picture of the author Kezz
    LOL that cartoon is brilliant! I never noticed that they used the exact same colors before. Very clever.

    I personally can't wait for the day that the Windows OS is defunct. Their years of standover tactics, ie. use / sell our products or go broke are just not cool.

    That said, as much as I'd like to use an OS created by Google, I'm completely not interested in thin client apps for every single thing. I like my apps and my data safely protected on my own drive, where I determine what happens.

    I'm surprised that still no-one has come up with an OS to really rival Windows, especially given the gaping hole in the levels of user satisfaction. It all comes down to one thing only with an OS, and that is, can I use the apps I know and depend on. If I could use all my Adobe products and my games and everything I need, dependably, on another OS I would have dumped Windows years ago. I always wanted to switch to Linux or Linspire (?) but have never been quite game.

    I tried Vista but lost about 2 years of my life trying to get it to run smoothly, and rolled it back immediately.

    Hopefully Windows 7 is better, as reported. Because I too don't quite trust Google with my information. Every time you install one of their products you have to uninstall "Google Update" which likes to go about its business without your permission.

    Time will tell!
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    • Profile picture of the author WareTime
      Originally Posted by Kezz View Post

      That said, as much as I'd like to use an OS created by Google, I'm completely not interested in thin client apps for every single thing. I like my apps and my data safely protected on my own drive, where I determine what happens.

      I'm surprised that still no-one has come up with an OS to really rival Windows, especially given the gaping hole in the levels of user satisfaction. It all comes down to one thing only with an OS, and that is, can I use the apps I know and depend on. If I could use all my Adobe products and my games and everything I need, dependably, on another OS I would have dumped Windows years ago. I always wanted to switch to Linux or Linspire (?) but have never been quite game.
      To your first point. I couldn't agree more. I trust Google less than Microsoft. Think about it, who has shown themselves to be genius at mining mountains of personal data and who is basically inept? I'd rather provide data to the inept if I have to give it to someone. They can't do much with it.

      Money money money. Look how much Microsoft spends to develop an iteration of Windows. You'd have to have millions if not > a billion to come up with something new that does what Windows or OSX does and do enough stuff better right off the bat to get people to buy it. It would suffer the same problem as Linux, very few commercial apps, drivers, etc that would make it not better enough to get people to buy it. No company will ever form with the goal of knocking Windows out of the market place. Imagine seeking venture capital for that - maybe if the venture capitalists wanted a write off No existing company will try it either. Adobe won't. They sell product now on two platforms what does having a third platform they have to pay to build get them? There is just no good way to come up with a new OS in 2009, it simply takes too much money and resources for a small chance of success.
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  • Profile picture of the author FrankPinch
    The thing is that software builders are building for MS! I don't think it's near the end for MS! Personally, I prefer Linux Ubuntu, it works great, much better than windows! But the machine is well oiled.

    On the other hand, Google guys are very creative, so success is an almost sure thing, but will probably get 5-10% of the market within the next years, no more

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  • Profile picture of the author Kezz
    They're targeting laptops to start with aren't they? Trying to get going with the more lightweight setups and going from there?

    I also think this is a retaliation against Bing. They've said, you're going after our search engine, we're going after your OS.
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    While Google is working to take over the OS - Microsoft has been working on taking some search engine share. Bing is incredible in my opinion, and should have google thinking more about their core bread & butter programs.

    I think they're both trying to undercut each other. It's a great time for a third company to come right up the middle and take some share from both sides.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kezz
    Ah right. It will be interesting to see how Windows 7 performs.

    That said, I'm looking forward to K2SMedia's video about Ubuntu. Maybe some of my trepidation can be alleviated
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Whisonant
    I love these Windows Linux debates. Viva La Linux!

    I always had problems with Windows and moved to Linux. I then started playing around with virtualbox and boy was I shocked!

    Windows XP ran better on Linux in a virtualbox then it did standalone on the PC. Shocked me big time.

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  • Profile picture of the author mr.schutz
    If you compare IE and chrome in using internet browsers, chrome is faster than IE. IE takes so much time loading a site.
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  • The "Flip Side" to this is the additional competition in the OS space my get the Government off Microsoft's back and that would open up a whole new world of opportunity for Microsoft.

    Microsofts Revenu's a nearly 3x what Google's are... and it's not all about great products, it's about picking your distribution partners carefully. Those who are making money and in bed with Microsoft will be hesitant to jump ship for a product which is not proven.

    How is the Chrome Browser doing? I see very few people using it to visit any of my sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author garyv
      Originally Posted by InternetMarketingIQ View Post


      How is the Chrome Browser doing? I see very few people using it to visit any of my sites.
      I think that may be the whole reason behind the OS. Microsoft has been able to force their browser on to people because it comes pre-packaged w/ their operating system. If Google can get a decent operating system going, and can start packaging it w/ some major computer outfitters, then they could start eating away at not only Browser share, but they could also prepackage their other softwares as well.

      Microsoft was able to win the browser war, simply because they had a monopoly on Operating Systems. If they weren't able to prepackage IE onto Windows, Netscape would be the browser of choice right now.

      The Operating system is the key to everything and could be huge for Google. Even if they only have limited success with it.
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    • Profile picture of the author johnsloan74
      Sorry to say guys but you can speculate all you want to but Windows isn't going no where anytime soon. You guys may like other operating systems better but you guys have alot more knowledge than the actual people who make Bill Gates pockets bigger. Fact is the typical consumers like the status quo and most are set in their ways and aren't very computer savy. The technically challenged people are gonna stick with what they know and that is Windows and in my opinion it will probably be around forever.
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      • Profile picture of the author garyv
        Originally Posted by johnsloan74 View Post

        Sorry to say guys but you can speculate all you want to but Windows isn't going no where anytime soon. You guys may like other operating systems better but you guys have alot more knowledge than the actual people who make Bill Gates pockets bigger. Fact is the typical consumers like the status quo and most are set in their ways and aren't very computer savy. The technically challenged people are gonna stick with what they know and that is Windows and in my opinion it will probably be around forever.
        That's what they said about yahoo.com as well not too many years ago.
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        • Profile picture of the author misterwrecker
          Originally Posted by garyv View Post

          That's what they said about yahoo.com as well not too many years ago.

          I'm sorry Gary but you can't compare Microsoft with Yahoo. Microsoft has a proven track record and has been around for decades. They have money, power, and connections, experience, you name it. People may also tell you facebook and twitter aren't going anywhere either. I can't say Microsoft will rule forever but they aren't going anywhere soon.
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          • Profile picture of the author garyv
            Originally Posted by misterwrecker View Post

            I'm sorry Gary but you can't compare Microsoft with Yahoo. Microsoft has a proven track record and has been around for decades. They have money, power, and connections, experience, you name it. People may also tell you facebook and twitter aren't going anywhere either. I can't say Microsoft will rule forever but they aren't going anywhere soon.
            It's true, Microsoft has a much deeper infrastructure than does Google or Yahoo. However it wouldn't take much, especially in an economy like we have now, to get a few big companies to start prepackaging a new OS into their systems.

            Microsoft may never go away, but no one stays on top forever.
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    • Profile picture of the author JoeCool
      Originally Posted by InternetMarketingIQ View Post

      Microsofts Revenu's a nearly 3x what Google's are... and it's not all about great products, it's about picking your distribution partners carefully. Those who are making money and in bed with Microsoft will be hesitant to jump ship for a product which is not proven.
      Here's a few "rats" that have already jumped ship...

      From Google's FAQ's on Chrome OS:

      What companies is Google working with to support Google Chrome OS?


      "The Google Chrome OS team is currently working with a number of technology companies to design and build devices that deliver an extraordinary end user experience. Among others, these companies include Acer, Adobe, ASUS, Freescale, Hewlett-Packard, Lenovo, Qualcomm, Texas Instruments, and Toshiba."
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  • Profile picture of the author Good News Now
    It is going to be challenging to overcome Microsoft...but surely will not let Microsoft to relax.

    Less monopoly is better for all. I am looking forward to this new launch.

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  • I am eagerly waiting to see just what this operating system can do and just what it can accomplish. I have been wanting to switch from windows to another OS for years. Now google is making one as well.

    It just can not get any better than that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kezz
    I use Chrome myself. It still has a number of bugs, but it is so much faster that I'm compelled to use it anyway. I spend so much time online that the difference in load time between Chrome and Firefox, hugely so between Chrome and IE is too good to pass up.

    But, it sucks for anything where you are putting information onto the web, such as using WYSIWYG editors and so on. It also doesn't handle video well sometimes.

    Basically my rule is if I'm getting information out of the web, I use Chrome as it's lightning fast. If I'm putting information onto the the web, I open up Firefox and use that.

    IE I never use unless I encounter a site that has been coded to solely work with the browser, as its both slow and buggy - the worst of both worlds.

    When the bugs are ironed out of Chrome it will be the superior browser. I did have to manually remove Google Update after I installed it though. Meh.
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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
    Originally Posted by JoeCool View Post

    I predicted this about 4 years ago (to a few of my colleagues) stating that, one day, the web would be our operating system (and also home to all of our apps) driven by Google in an Open Source browser. Our hardware, whether a laptop, a desktop, a netbook, or even a cell phone, will soon be just dumb terminals, with our hard drives used mainly for local file storage.

    Things are going to get real interesting about this time next year.

    Oh yeah, one more thing... Google is making this totally Open Source. Can you imagine how many apps will be written worldwide for this new operating system?

    Yes I agree with you. I've been saying pretty much the same thing for quite some time.

    Why use a limited home computer to store data and run applications when you can have what for most home users amounts to almost unlimited data storage and rapid apps hosted online.

    This would also eliminate most viruses (a huge issue).

    People will still want to save some files at home but the nature of the computers they buy will change radically.

    Also all those $100 laptops being built for the third world and poverty market will become a whole lot more powerful which is probably a good thing in most ways.

    Kindest regards,
    Andrew Cavanagh

    P.S. If you doubt this change will happen think of this:

    How quickly did a whole pile of peopl realize that gmail was a superior option for email than using outlook express as long as you have an active internet connection?

    These people have been pre-educated in using online applications.

    Modern blogs are the same. We interface with them almost entirely online...we don't really store our own data unless we choose to back up.

    It's not a huge leap.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
    There will never be a computer on a store shelf running ChromeOS. Simple as that. And Google never intended for there to be one.

    Read any competent analysts' opinion, they'll all agree on that.

    This isn't how Google launches real products, this is how they drum up press and rile up Microsoft.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/13/op...3cringely.html
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Anderson
    For me the operating system does not matter one bit.

    The only thing that matters is the specific software that I can run on it.

    If I want to use an app... and if that app is valuable enough to me and helps me accomplish a goal that makes me more money...

    I would buy or build an entire new computer if I had to just to use that app.

    Now having said that...

    I built a box that can boot windows, osx, and linux from one machine, with three drives inside, using the effix dongle.

    Even so I never have needed linux for any reason, I rarely use osx, and I accomplish most of my work on windows.

    However, what gives my company power is the web and 90% of our development is focused on web based services and applications so the Google browser os concept sounds like it will open some doors for us... not for me as a user but for my company to market to browser os users.
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  • Profile picture of the author Revolves
    Chrome is trying to capture the netbooks segment. The problem is that the price difference between a linux netbook and a windows one isn't enough to justify an OS shift. Secondly, while many of us can manage with a linux desktop, majority of the users still prefer windows as their operating system.

    Lastly google will have stiff competition from popular linux distros like mandrive, suse, ubuntu and many others...
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  • Profile picture of the author BlackWaterBlog
    It really looks promising, I just can't wait for it to be available for PCs. That's when Microsoft is going to be in trouble.

    And I laughed at the image, that's great.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tyrus Antas
    The end of windows? Wishful thinking. Competition is good, but Chrome has no competitive advantage other than price. It could force Microsoft lower their prices but that's it.

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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    The only company that ever could give Microsoft any substantial run for the money for commercial operating systems was Oracle. And that is because the theory behind what Larry Ellison proposed was superior to the technical foundation of the basic building blocks of DOS & Windows (the registry should be a database instead of flat text files). Even then, Ellison realized the futile effort for what it was and abandoned the project.

    People don't realize the interconnected requirements to develop and OS, particularly in hardware driver areas. In the early days of Linux, the hardcore geeks like me would dabble with it, but found that hardware vendor support was spotty at best. Hardware APIs are proprietary, and the partnering requirements to create an OS with mass support is a huge effort all unto itself.

    Google can make all the claims and choose it's path for its own reasons. As a shareholder, I'd be concerned because it's going to cost a lot more, and they will sell far less than estimated. It's great that the geeks and tinkers have another tiny tool and reason to bash MS, but when your printer manufacturer chooses not to release any support for it, well you might find that total cost of ownership model to not be quite so attractive after all (as many corporate CIOs did with Linux).

    It's definately something for everyone to talk about, but I certainly wouldn't run to the trading account to place a big buy order on the news.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Hakeem
    I would try if it's free as Google

    -Andy
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  • Profile picture of the author Steven Carl Kelly
    The real promise to knock off Windows was killed off years ago: IBM's OS/2. It was a far superior product and had it's spread not been thwarted, it may have done serious damage to today's MS market share. Now MS has built itself a nearly impenetrable fortress.
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    • Profile picture of the author WareTime
      Originally Posted by Steven Carl Kelly View Post

      The real promise to knock off Windows was killed off years ago: IBM's OS/2. It was a far superior product and had it's spread not been thwarted, it may have done serious damage to today's MS market share. Now MS has built itself a nearly impenetrable fortress.
      OS/2 truly was better. Remember what killed it? No apps. MS told IBM to build it and will supply apps. MS didn't hold their end of the bargain and without MS apps available, it wouldn't sell and since it wouldn't sell, there was no point in other vendors building apps either.

      I work with Solaris in my day job and for 9/10 server applications it is far and away superior to Windows, but I'd never run a Solaris desktop for home use because there just aren't many common apps available. I guess I say this to point out and reinforce the idea that while Google could build something technically better than Windows in some respects. It just doesn't matter without apps.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    No. Some will use it, most wont. Look at firefox and how many people still use i.e. 7/8. There are some people that will never give up xp until you pull it from their cold dead fingers
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Morgan
      I use Vista, Linux and Mac on a daily basis, so I have no dog in this fight. Each one has it's purpose.

      Chrome won't unseat windows. For one, it's basically a thin client for netbooks. It's no different that the stripped down linux distros they put on fry's $300 computers.

      Yes, I think chrome will be great, and will probably get a good following, but It's no threat to Windows 7. Every windows challenger has failed to unseat them, because they are the status quo.

      It's all about the soccer moms. As far as purchasing goes, they are the big market. In the average american family, the woman makes this purchasing decision, and she wants something familiar and easy. Guess what guys? Most of the "average joes" have no idea you can put something other than windows on their PC. In fact, they don't even think about it. To the average people:

      Windows = Computer

      They associate it with computers very automatically, and don't understand why you would need to use anything else. Geeks can howl and yell all they want about their superior OS and nobody cares. You can stuff a 800hp racing engine in your car too, and that's far superior to what you have, but how many average families do you see doing it? Most of them just buy their Rav4 and drive it around.

      I guess my point is, Windows is here to stay, because they are so entrenched in the minds of the average person, and that's who dominates sales. I would like to see them crash and burn just as fast as the next geek, but I know it won't happen. I'm pretty content using Windows 10% of the time for .net stuff and using the mac or linux for the real work, but I'm not the average joe.
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  • Profile picture of the author Person
    I am using Ubuntu Linux, but have tried a lot of different distros. In the past, I had many headaches with Linux, but now the os is "just working". I am not really a geek. I use the GUI for most everything rather than the command line. I love it, and I have totally erased Windows from my box. All linux software is free, and open source. My linux system is fast, and does what I need immediately. And by the way, I have Never had a virus or malware on my linux system. I do virus checks just to protect Windows users in case I mistakenly pass on an infected file, but there are no infections on my system.
    The MS business model selling licenses for limited use just frustrates me to no end. And Vista is unusable. Apple is better, but they really get you in the pocket. My daughter just bought a Macbook, and it didn't even come with a word processor. We had to buy that separately for $80. more. Ugh.
    Anyway, thats my rant. Thanks for this great forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author WareTime
      Originally Posted by Person View Post

      All linux software is free, and open source.
      That might be fine for your needs but for 95% of the world Linux lacks apps to do what we need.

      If you want 156 text editors with cool recursive names like JOE (Joe's Own Editor) you are in high cotton. Joe is pretty cool by the way. Just used it today. I love how when you go to save instead of saying "would you like to save changes? Y or N " it says "lose your changes? Y or N"

      But where are the xsitepro's, the client side keyword tools, or client side anything internet marketing related? If you have limited client side needs Linux is good to go today. If you depend on desktop apps it's not.

      Myself I run OS X and Windows and Linux on my Mac in Fusion and use Solaris at work. I'm not for or against any of them, they are all good in their own way, but I don't belive Linux makes sense as a desktop for most people yet, though Ubuntu is getting very good.
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      • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
        This has already been tried before and failed miserably.

        Anyone remember the promise of Java?
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        • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
          Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher View Post

          This has already been tried before and failed miserably.

          Anyone remember the promise of Java?
          MS killed it quicker than they helped build it's popularity.
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          • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
            Originally Posted by GarrieWilson View Post

            MS killed it quicker than they helped build it's popularity.
            Java had a flaw from the beginning: No one wanted to run apps from a server anymore.

            The problem has always been bandwidth. And with broadband ISP's now putting caps on bandwidth, that problem isn't going away.

            Originally, Java was supposed to be run from Java Servers, and the desktop users accessed those with Java Stations.

            That ran slow, so it never really took off.

            If I read my tea leaves right, Google will run into exactly the same problem. And it's why it will fall on it's face.

            You heard it here first.
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  • Profile picture of the author xohaibx
    I don't see this happening anytime soon ... Microsoft will put up a GOOD fight ... But still, the Internet is the future. And the Internet is Google
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  • Profile picture of the author Didier Faucher
    They will sell coffee and burgers soon.

    Take care, because then you might have some unexpected Google-thing in your body.

    I'll never use their products.


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  • Profile picture of the author Adrian Cooper
    Originally Posted by JoeCool View Post

    Could This Be The Beginning Of The End For Windows
    As The World's #1 Operating System?

    No way will Chrome affect Windows in the short term because there are no applications for it, and it is the applications that everyone buys a PC for.

    Longer term Google's strategy is to put all applications on the Internet, so the O/S becomes the client, meaning that applications will always be available from any PC, Laptop or Netbook any time, anywhere, without the need for much computing power.

    The Chrome browser, which I use, already has the client technology built in.

    I would give Windows about 5 years. Windows is 90% of Microsoft's revenues.
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  • Profile picture of the author GarrieWilson
    5 years from now a CloudOS *might* be popular but not now.

    Assus, (I think it was them) said that their netbooks with linux are returned FOUR times as much as the ones with Windows. And these are systems that are made mainly for surfing, chat, email, etc. Which IMHO is great for a netbook and why I purchased the one Paul talked about.

    However, if I like it, I'll get one with XP for about $100 more. That way, I can install the latest net aps that are not made with Adobe Aire. Which is most of them.

    Visit NewEgg, look at the NetBooks and you will see ONE with linux. At least thats all they had a few days ago.

    Now tell me a CloudOS will dethrone Windows.

    gFans need to get off their knees before they get arthritis and lock jaw.

    The only company who could even come close to dethrowning Windows is Apple. They will have to cut their prices in half and sell the OS seperatly so people can build their own though. Even then it might not gain any extra steam.
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    I'm pretty sure that Microsoft has the money, the time, the resources, and the ability to deliver.\

    Everyone laughed their asses off when they announced they were entering the gaming console business.

    Then they laughed again when they announced the entry into the MP3 player and content delivery network business.

    The other advantage that Microsoft has over Google is multiple years of history and multiple technology cycles worth of reinventing themselves.

    Something that Google can't match.
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    • Profile picture of the author AtomicFlipper
      Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

      I'm pretty sure that Microsoft has the money, the time, the resources, and the ability to deliver.

      Everyone laughed their asses off when they announced they were entering the gaming console business.

      Then they laughed again when they announced the entry into the MP3 player and content delivery network business.

      The other advantage that Microsoft has over Google is multiple years of history and multiple technology cycles worth of reinventing themselves.

      Something that Google can't match.
      That's exactly right.

      I noticed someone compared Microsoft and Yahoo further up about people saying Yahoo was going no where.

      There is no comparison, it's about the OS not the search engine.

      Well here comes Google, and people are saying they are going no where, MS will eat them too, MS are geniuses at making companies waste money.

      Once MS get the Ad revenue right I suspect Google will start to lose ground. People are already liking Bing, maybe MS got it right this time, I for one have notice a lot of traffic coming from them in the past months.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Pension Guy
    Probably, it is not the "beginning of the end" for M$ Win.

    On the other hand, I cannot understand the joy about switching from one monopoly to another one...
    As so many others already mentioned above, giving up even more of our privacy to the big G should rather be cause for worries.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Campbell
    "In the year 3000, in the year 3000!"

    Google will take over the world one computer at a time. People will begin to Google each other like never before, and the entire Internet as we know it will become one big cloud of information to be Googled.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Willer
    I do think Microsoft is going to lose a ton of market share within the next 5 years. Especially if they keep their existing strategy
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  • Profile picture of the author Emmanuel ED
    LOL, I've heard a lot about this, Seems as google wan't to try and *Rule the Computer World*.

    I'll definitely watch and see what happens
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  • Profile picture of the author DownloadDan
    I think Microsoft's newest OS coming out in October will be fantastic. I think they learned a shocking lesson from Vista. Google will have an uphill battle.
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    • Profile picture of the author JoeCool
      This Just In From TechCrunch...


      "How We Know Chrome OS Will Be A Hit: Steve Ballmer Doesn't Think So"

      There are a lot of questions out there about Google's new Chrome OS. Since little is actually known about it, the most interesting questions right now tend to be about Google's overall strategy in making a new OS. And if such a strategy will actually work. We tend to think it will, and that belief got a huge boost in the arm today as Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer has finally come out and mocked the idea... (more)


      Here's another Ballmer prediction about the iPhone not being a major contender in the mobile market...




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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    I love this stuff. I really do.

    "We hate that big corporate giant Microsoft. We'd rather see those little guys, Google & Apple win."
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    • Profile picture of the author JoeCool
      Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

      I love this stuff. I really do.
      I agree!

      The more the public pits them against each other, and the more they fight amongst themselves, the better for us, the end users.

      Reminds me of the GUI wars between Apple and Microsoft back in the 80's. Apple sued Windows for copyright infringement, then Xerox stepped in and sued Apple for stealing the idea from them, where the GUI interface was originally developed.
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    • Profile picture of the author WareTime
      Originally Posted by MichaelHiles View Post

      I love this stuff. I really do.

      "We hate that big corporate giant Microsoft. We'd rather see those little guys, Google & Apple win."
      Exactly. I don't like black jack boots, but the brown ones, they are rather nice looking.

      Actually Ballmer was right in that the iPhone was way too expensive. Apple dropped the price quickly making some early adopters angry.
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  • Profile picture of the author AverageGuy
    It is for netbook. In order to compete with windows, it will have to have many similar web app which can be used on netbook. It will take many years even MS stop making progress.

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  • Profile picture of the author homebasedmom
    I don't know if Google can keep up with Microsoft when it comes to OS? But they sure are getting serious about this stuff. Well, I am just hoping for the best. Whoever OS runs best wins.
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  • Profile picture of the author AtomicFlipper
    Lets not forget, if the OS does take off, microsoft will use the code, make changes or even better it, close the code off and capture a big part of the market again through its already established channels.

    Google is pissing in the wind, I really thought they would be smarter than this.
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  • Profile picture of the author NickCook
    Google's Android OS is already being used on a number of mobile devices...competition for iPhone and Windows Mobile...
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  • Profile picture of the author Gog
    I don't think its the beginning of the end, but I do think it will help to force Microsoft to put more consideration into its platforms stability and bugs. If it helps to make windows a more stable platform or a better one comes along its a win win situation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
    Apple would've went bankrupt 15 years ago if Microsoft didn't rescue them.

    Google is a house of cards built on search advertising. It's the single source of revenue that funds all their other negative income services. And it can be attacked from so many directions, some new company will find a way to change online advertising eventually.

    Microsoft made $60 billion last year despite Vista's weak adoption rate. It'll be even higher next year because of Win7.

    Surprised we're still talking about a piece of vaporware here. There is no ChromeOS, just a press release; real Google products don't get announced a year in advance, we see them when they're out there, and they sink or swim on their own merits.
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  • Profile picture of the author Copywriter UK
    Google getting into bed with China in advance of last year's Olympics tells us what we need to know about where their priorities lie. Money before morality. But wasn't it always so with any major corporation? That 'Don't be evil' line really worries me. Surely better to aspire to BE something, not to NOT BE something.

    That said, I'm like the monkey with his hand in the jar with Google, love Google products and services and I can't seem to let go!

    Anyone know how to go cold turkey on giving up Google? I've fully forsaken Microsoft (thank you Vista, you drove me to the Mac, and I'm never going back). A bit like Bush and Obama when you think about it. Sometimes maybe something's got to get really really bad before it drives you to find something really really good!
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris_Willow
    yeah it's all fun and games, but no win software will run on the google os. There are many excellent OS out there already, the problem is with windows apps most people can't live without.

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  • Profile picture of the author viralim
    We'll just have to wait and see, won't we. I suspect that it'll take some time to dethrone MS, if that ever occurs.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Grossman
    As long as end-users aren't directly paying for their operating system, there's no reason to put in extra effort to obtain any OS when the computer comes with one. 92% of people don't even know what a browser is, can you imagine explaining exactly what an OS is, then having them figure out Linux?

    Windows isn't going anywhere. Windows 7 will be to Vista what XP was to ME; it will wipe out the past and resolidify the brand. They'll be stronger next year than last.
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    • Profile picture of the author Collette
      Originally Posted by Dan Grossman View Post

      ... 92% of people don't even know what a browser is, can you imagine explaining exactly what an OS is, then having them figure out Linux?...
      .

      I recently finished a web site rewrite project for a medium-sized company owned by a billionaire (yes, really - the guy's got oil).

      The ad agency that redesigned their web site was (secretly) not going to give them a CMS. They hadn't even mentioned a CMS - and this is a site that will need frequent in-house updating.

      Until I brought it up, no one on the client side realized that they weren't going to have a CMS. Reason?

      35 years on the job, and the guy in charge of the web site project didn't know what a CMS is.

      And he's supposed to be their computer "expert".

      He didn't know what HTML is, either. I kid you not.

      Most of the small businesses I talk to don't even know what an ISP is. Much less an "open source OS".

      Chrome OS is not going to take Microsoft down anytime soon. More's the pity.
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  • Profile picture of the author worlok
    No. I've worked in tech for 15+ years, and Windows is MORE than safe on the desktop, and even in many server side areas. I am looking forward to Google's Linux based OS, but it is NOT going to supplant Windows. remember that Windows has a HUGE base of available software and most companies build for Windows. We don't even know yet what it will take to port famous apps to Chrome or if most companies would want to.

    I guess titles mentioning the beginning of the end for Windows will get many views, but I came here to just say, "no". BTW I worked much of my time as a UNIX and Linux admin, so I know Linux and UNIX and I have had my issues with Windows going way back to the instability of NT4 and especially the SP2 nightmare that wiped out many systems.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rezbi
    Google will most likely have a cult following but there's no way it'll knock MS off.

    Although, I do feel it will take a big enough chunk out of MS's market to unnerve them.
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  • Profile picture of the author rlpruitt
    If it seamlessly runs Windows business apps it's got a chance.

    That's why all other competing OSes (OS2, Linux, Mac, etc.) to unseat Microsoft.

    Businesses want an easy to install, easy to use, networking OS that runs their favorite programs.

    It definitely is the beginning of an interesting battle.

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