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question on competition evaluation

by timpears
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I am hoping some Warriors can help me clear up some confusion. I have decided to do the Josh Spalding 5 Dollar Formula. I am trying to figure out which niches to tackle. I reject the idea that I need to focus on my passion. As one fellow told me a few days ago when I posed this question, my passion is providing a product to people at a price they are willing to pay. And I agree with him. And frankly, my objective is to focus on Google Adsense for the monetization, and possibly an affiliate offer or two.

Anyway, the problem I am facing is the different views on evaluating the competition. Josh says to check the PR value of each of the sites on the first page of Google and look for an average of 3 or less. This seems a little hard to me if you are expecting a decent payout from Google for a click. But maybe I just haven't looked at enough keywords. I was reading a thread a few days ago and the poster stated an average of PR4 for the first page. Most of the niches that I have looked at so far seem to have an average of around 4 or higher.

I have a couple of questions on this. How do you evaluate a site such as Amazon, which lands in the first position, yet the page, has a PR0 for the book ad that shows up? How do you evaluate a Google shopping or local search page that also has a PR0, but come on, somehow I don't believe that the Google page is low rank. Moreover, what is a reasonable value that I could target? Is the number of sites competing for this key word relevant? I see that Angela Edwards states that she got her article on page one (first position I think) for a key word with 84 million competition by back linking.

I am not sure if this has any bearing on it, but I would be outsourcing the writing of the content for the site. I would also expect to outsource a significant amount of back linking. I would hope to get anything up to 1,000 back links in the first couple of months.

Any feedback you can share is welcome, whether you answer my question or things that I may not have thought of is appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    Well I want to thank the few people that did look at my question. I would have thought that someone would have been able to help, but I guess I will just have to jump in and hope for the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author Preben Frenning
    Why look at the PR of the competing pages? I've been able to get top spots with a PR 1 site, over many much higher PR sites.

    Use the "allintitle:keyword" command in google to see how many competing websites have the exact keyword phrase in their titles, and adjust after that. If there are 10 pages with Pr4 or more WITH the keyword in the titles, then skip that keyword.

    Although you CAN do it if you get enough backlinks with the right anchor text.

    And adsense clicks aren't evaluated by the PR of the page at all. It's the keywords!

    Not sure if I understood your question(s), but I hope it helped!
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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    Thanks Preben. I didn't think anyone was going to answer. I have never understood the allintitle:keyword so I shall go look it up and try to understand how to use it.

    I wasn't thinking anything about Adsense and PR, just that was the primary way I plan to monetize. Basically to follow Josh's program. I just heard some contradictory information to his thoughts and wanted to better understand what folks here thought.
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  • Profile picture of the author Preben Frenning
    I'm not that much a fan of adsense really. If I where you, I would focus more on affiliate products than adsense. CPA might work out good for you?

    Anyways, I'll explain a bit about the allintitle command.

    The thing is, google focuses heavily on titles. And for long-tail keywords, there usually aren't that many competitors with the entire long-tail phrase in their titles.

    So if you manage to get your entire keyword phrase in your titles, both of articles as well as on your site itself, you will most likely be able to get good rankings eventually.

    But if you search google for, let's say "allintitle: puppy potty training", you can then analyse those results rather than when you search normally. If you are able to optimize better than the competing title sites, and get better backlinks, you will dominate that keyword, and eventually your site itself will show up as well.

    Get it now? It's not that complicated really
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    i would go with Preben
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  • Profile picture of the author artwebster
    Watch any movie and you will see that when a victim gets caught it is always because he cannot stop looking over his shoulder!

    Instead of worrying about competition, let others worry about you!
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