What Membership Script/Software Will Do This?

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I am wondering what membership software script will this do this please?

Everybody knows how clickbank.com works right?? Where you join as a member and you allowed to promote other peoples products and get a comission for each one sent to you via cheque? You dont have to create differnt accounts to promote different products.. You can do it all under one hub

I am trying to find a decent membership software/script that will basically do the same..

My membership site will be all about digital downloads. But instead of my members downloading the products and then putting them onto their servers, I want to give them the ability to promote them through my membership site, and still get a comissions for each product, if someone buys through their affiliate link...
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  • Profile picture of the author SingleMom
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    • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
      Do you know how clickbank works at the moment? Or are you a newbie to the Internet Marketing world??

      Originally Posted by SingleMom View Post

      I'm sorry, but I don't quite understand the question. Can you add some more detail?
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve Diamond
      Byron, there are many different ways this could work. The details matter.

      For example, Clickbank handles all the payment processing, affiliate tracking, and affiliate payments. But they don't host the sales pages, they don't host the products, and they don't handle the downloads.

      PayDotCom handles the payment processing and affiliate tracking, but not the affiliate payments and not the products.

      E-Junkie handles the payments, hosts the products, handles the downloads, handles the affiliate tracking, but doesn't do the affiliate payments.

      What those three sites have in common, though, is that they cost, I'm quite sure, well into six figures to develop. Ask Mike Filsaime what he paid for the programming on PayDotCom. If the answer isn't over $100,000 I'll eat my shorts.

      You're not going to find a script that duplicates any of these models for a few hundred dollars, if that's what you had in mind.

      The closest thing I can think of might be JV Manager 2/Fantasos. Oops! I see it's now called Delavo. That or some other high end product I'm not familiar with might work for you.

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      • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
        Steve

        Thank you for that..

        I am thking to myself because of the credit crunch at the moment and the way things are in sales etc for everyone, espically the big gurus out there.. If I just created a normal membership site, where affiliates only get a comission for new members only, and if my membership site will be about offering the latest digital downloads with resell or private label rights, will I get the members and then utlimately the money to survive..

        Because if not their is not point in me spending $100 on a script if it is going to work. That is why I am sort of trying to thinking of what will attract more members to my membership site

        Originally Posted by Steve Diamond View Post

        Byron, there are many different ways this could work. The details matter.

        For example, Clickbank handles all the payment processing, affiliate tracking, and affiliate payments. But they don't host the sales pages, they don't host the products, and they don't handle the downloads.

        PayDotCom handles the payment processing and affiliate tracking, but not the affiliate payments and not the products.

        E-Junkie handles the payments, hosts the products, handles the downloads, handles the affiliate tracking, but doesn't do the affiliate payments.

        What those three sites have in common, though, is that they cost, I'm quite sure, well into six figures to develop. Ask Mike Filsaime what he paid for the programming on PayDotCom. If the answer isn't over $100,000 I'll eat my shorts.

        You're not going to find a script that duplicates any of these models for a few hundred dollars, if that's what you had in mind.

        The closest thing I can think of might be JV Manager 2/Fantasos. Oops! I see it's now called Delavo. That or some other high end product I'm not familiar with might work for you.

        Steve
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        • Profile picture of the author Steve Diamond
          Byron, I think you could configure an ordinary membership script, like aMember Pro, to work more or less the way you described in your post #5. Each product would be configured as a product in aMember, with its own affiliate commission payout rules. And there would also be a blanket site membership, with access to all the other products, that had its own price and commission.

          I think aMember could be set up like that. To be sure, you might want to post your question on their support forum. It's the blanket membership that includes access to all the other products that I'm not sure about.

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          • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
            Steve

            Just contacted them.. So lets c what they say

            Originally Posted by Steve Diamond View Post

            Byron, I think you could configure an ordinary membership script, like aMember Pro, to work more or less the way you described in your post #5. Each product would be configured as a product in aMember, with its own affiliate commission payout rules. And there would also be a blanket site membership, with access to all the other products, that had its own price and commission.

            I think aMember could be set up like that. To be sure, you might want to post your question on their support forum. It's the blanket membership that includes access to all the other products that I'm not sure about.

            Steve
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            • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
              Byron- If you can, hold out for a few more days! James (warrior name: therichjerksnet) is comming out with a membership script that is going to do just what your looking for and then some! I got a good look at whats on the inside and what it is going to do and it's impressive. I've been busting his chops a little bit about it but he won't cut it lose until it's perfect he said. I acutally bought a memebership script that I was going to use, but after seeing what his is going to do, I'm waiting and buying his. The other will just collect dust on the hard drive.
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              • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
                Bryan

                Guess what?? I am talking to him too about it.. I was one of the very first people to know about it.. He contacted me a few weeks ago to another question to let me know that he is creating a membership site/scipt at the moment, and it might do all that I need

                I'll just wish he get a move on : )

                Originally Posted by Bryan Zimmerman View Post

                Byron- If you can, hold out for a few more days! James (warrior name: therichjerksnet) is comming out with a membership script that is going to do just what your looking for and then some! I got a good look at whats on the inside and what it is going to do. I've been busting his chops a little bit about it but he won't cut it lose until it's perfect he said. I acutally bought a memebership script that I was going to use, but after seeing what his is going to do, I'm waiting and buying his. The other will just collect dust on the hard drive.
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                • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
                  Originally Posted by Byron_Wells View Post

                  Bryan

                  Guess what?? I am talking to him too about it.. I was one of the very first people to know about it.. He contacted me a few weeks ago to another question to let me know that he is creating a membership site/scipt at the moment, and it might do all that I need

                  I'll just wish he get a move on : )

                  I hear ya, I'm really itching to get mine going to! But, it will be well worth the wait I think You saw all the stuff he's got in there, like I said, I already bought one to the tune of 100.00. It's just going to sit and rot. I'll wait on this one
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              • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
                Bryan & Byron,
                Yeah Yeah I am working .. you guys bust my chops, are you sure you are not brothers ..:p

                Thanks for the mention, appreciate you thinking about me...

                James


                Originally Posted by Bryan Zimmerman View Post

                Byron- If you can, hold out for a few more days! James (warrior name: therichjerksnet) is comming out with a membership script that is going to do just what your looking for and then some! I got a good look at whats on the inside and what it is going to do and it's impressive. I've been busting his chops a little bit about it but he won't cut it lose until it's perfect he said. I acutally bought a memebership script that I was going to use, but after seeing what his is going to do, I'm waiting and buying his. The other will just collect dust on the hard drive.
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                • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
                  Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

                  Bryan & Byron,
                  Yeah Yeah I am working .. you guys bust my chops, are you sure you are not brothers ..:p

                  Thanks for the mention, appreciate you thinking about me...

                  James

                  nah, thats just my other account I created last year so I could bust chops and make it look like there were others doing the same
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                  • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
                    Bryan

                    I always wanted a brother lol lol

                    Originally Posted by Bryan Zimmerman View Post

                    nah, thats just my other account I created last year so I could bust chops and make it look like there were others doing the same
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                • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
                  James

                  Less talk and more work

                  Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

                  Bryan & Byron,
                  Yeah Yeah I am working .. you guys bust my chops, are you sure you are not brothers ..:p

                  Thanks for the mention, appreciate you thinking about me...

                  James
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                  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
                    Originally Posted by Byron_Wells View Post

                    James

                    Less talk and more work
                    Hey Byron thanks for the pre-pay with your credit card, I forgot to tell you I charge $50 extra each time you bust my chops ...

                    James
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                    • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
                      James

                      $50 dollars per time? Trust me you will be a millionaire by the end of this post

                      Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

                      Hey Byron thanks for the pre-pay with your credit card, I forgot to tell you I charge $50 extra each time you bust my chops ...

                      James
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                  • Profile picture of the author Bryan Zimmerman
                    Originally Posted by Byron_Wells View Post

                    James

                    Less talk and more work

                    Just heard from James that the beta testing is pretty much done. He's got one or two things left to tweak and it's comming out.

                    If anyone hasn't seen the back end of this membership site program and what it's going to be able to do, then hold on! And for the price he says he's cutting it loose for, it's a complete no brainer.
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      • Profile picture of the author $Layla$
        Originally Posted by Steve Diamond View Post

        Byron, there are many different ways this could work. The details matter.

        For example, Clickbank handles all the payment processing, affiliate tracking, and affiliate payments. But they don't host the sales pages, they don't host the products, and they don't handle the downloads.

        PayDotCom handles the payment processing and affiliate tracking, but not the affiliate payments and not the products.

        E-Junkie handles the payments, hosts the products, handles the downloads, handles the affiliate tracking, but doesn't do the affiliate payments.

        What those three sites have in common, though, is that they cost, I'm quite sure, well into six figures to develop. Ask Mike Filsaime what he paid for the programming on PayDotCom. If the answer isn't over $100,000 I'll eat my shorts.

        You're not going to find a script that duplicates any of these models for a few hundred dollars, if that's what you had in mind.

        The closest thing I can think of might be JV Manager 2/Fantasos. Oops! I see it's now called Delavo. That or some other high end product I'm not familiar with might work for you.

        Steve
        A little OT but just wanted to thank you so much for this breakdown as I've been curious myself in what the differences in each of these programs where. Its very nice to log in here as a newbie and find such detailed information!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rezbi
    Byron,

    What you're looking for is a clickbank clone script, is that right?
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    • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
      To be honest I am not sure

      I want to be able to run a membership site offer people digital downloads on a daily basis...

      As members they can become affiliates where they can choose either to promote the whole membership and a get a comission for people who joined through their affiliate links..

      Or they can get a commission for indivudal products that I give them access to through them being a member of my membership site..

      So for example they have three ways to make money..

      1) Be referring new members

      2) By them dowloading each product and then sorting out the sales page and putting them onto their own hosting account, etc..

      3) But if they dont have their own hosting account, they can just promote it through me and get a comssion that way

      Hope that clears things up : )

      Originally Posted by Rezbi View Post

      Byron,

      What you're looking for is a clickbank clone script, is that right?
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    • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
      Url Rotator?? No way... Completely and utterly wrong lol lol

      Originally Posted by vinc8462 View Post

      It sounds like you are looking for a URL rotater ? am i correct.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Pension Guy
    vinc8462,

    You either don't read or you are spamming... My bet is both.
    As for your question: you are absolutely wrong.
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    • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
      The Pension Guys

      You are telling me.. You ask for help and then you get stupid people leaving posts like that...

      Originally Posted by The Pension Guy View Post

      vinc8462,

      You either don't read or you are spamming... My bet is both.
      As for your question: you are absolutely wrong.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Pension Guy
    Byron,

    use the little triangle under their name to report the post as "spam". If enough users do it - the post will disappear
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    • Profile picture of the author actionplanbiz
      I am looking for a membership Script too, but a lot more simple. Free Prefered

      Just to have people register and log in to access a Training center. and with the ability to track their activities

      if anyone can lead me into the right direction i would highly appreciate it

      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
        To be honest with you I wouldnt go for a free one at all.. Free sometime means it wont cost you nothing now, but it will cost you loads in the long run....

        Be wary vary of free one... Comes with load of restrictions/limiations/bugs and problems

        Originally Posted by actionplanbiz View Post

        I am looking for a membership Script too, but a lot more simple. Free Prefered

        Just to have people register and log in to access a Training center. and with the ability to track their activities

        if anyone can lead me into the right direction i would highly appreciate it

        Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
      Just done it

      Originally Posted by The Pension Guy View Post

      Byron,

      use the little triangle under their name to report the post as "spam". If enough users do it - the post will disappear
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      • Profile picture of the author TanB
        There is one little catch to Delavo..

        Lets put it to you another way, why do you think so many people are promoting it? What are they actually getting out of it?? Course it sounds good when it says free, but wheres/what the catch.... Maybe its got something to do with the plugins/addons that you will need to make a decent membership site out of it..

        Maybe I wonder..........
        Byron,

        I can reassure you, there is NO catch at all. Please check this url (not an affiliate):

        Delaverian Marketing

        As you can see, John Delavera explains in plain words what he is getting for offering DELAVO for free.

        -You can call plugins upsell, but, if an offer is said plain before the transaction so that the buyer won't be surprised, I don't think this should be called "upsell"
        -You can call this OTO, but even in case you will not get the plugin, you will still see the same price (in case you come back later); one thing that you do not see is: "Attention: you will see this page only one time!"
        -Yes, there are many people promoting DELAVO. I think this goes beyond commercialization of a product, they are promoting DELAVO because they "want to help people"
        -Regarding the product itself, I don't think DELAVO needs anyone to defend, being built on Fantasos core and without the price tag of Fantasos (which was a beast), but tailored according marketers needs (NO scripts offers this feature), I strongly believe it will be the script that will dominate the market for a very long time. That question that I ask myself here is: will I be able to grasp every functionality and feature of it, will I be able to master it?

        I am working on it...

        Dritan
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        • Profile picture of the author dlwalsh
          Hi Byron

          There is NO other script out there that can compete with Delavo simply because Delavo is so flexible. AND it is not just a membership script.

          Delavo will run your entire back office, your products, memberships, customers, affiliates, and much more.

          Yes, the plug-ins are an additioanl charge but the core Delavo is sufficient for at least 90% of all marketer needs. And just the core is 10x better than most membership scripts being offered or even those in development. Of course it is easy for someone to say how great a membership script they are developing is. Of course there is no comparison because Delavo is not just a membership script, it is a full business platform.

          And you do not need ANY plug-ins to turn Delavo into a "decent" membership. I currently run 4 memberships through Delavo without using a single plug-in.

          Why invest even 1 penny in a membership script that won't cover all your business needs beyond a membership and cover your needs into the future? And why invest in a script that will only run a membership when you can run your entire business with Delavo? And there are no limits as to how many memberships, products, members, etc. you can set up. And that is not the case with some of the other scripts being offered.

          I have been a Fantasos and now Delavo user since Fantasos was first released. Yes, I have looked at other scripts but NONE come even close to what Delavo does and NONE have the flexibility of Delavo.

          And yes, I am the Donna Walsh that writes the Delavo manuals and conducts the workshops. But I do that on a volunteer basis just because I think so highly of Delavo and want everyone to get this great script. And I conduct a FREE workshop every week about some function of Delavo. The workshop lasts about an hour and then there is an hour of open questions and answers where I will answer any questions you may have about anything related to Delavo. And these are recorded so you can access them anytime you wish, again at NO charge. No where do I see anyone offering the kind of support that is offered for Delavo.

          So don't settle for something that can only do a fraction of what Delavo does. You will regret it in the future especially when your needs outgrow whatever other script you settle for.

          Donna
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          • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
            Donna,
            I will have to respectfully disagree with this... Byron has already seen what I offer and trust me it is not just another membership script either. Unlike your post I will not run down others scripts as that is against the rules of this forum.

            I will say this though, a script is more than just functions and features. It should also be built secure and optimized for speed (meaning the coding is done proper). I could say the same as you, why invest into plugins when you can purchase a script at a fraction of the cost that does everything right out of the box with no plugins - unlimited memberships, run a free membership, subscription membership, one time product sales, affiliate review sites, trial offer + subscription membership - ALL AT THE SAME TIME and with one login and one admin. Full affiliate system built in, full mail list system built in and etc .. All-In-One -Solution.

            James


            Originally Posted by dlwalsh View Post

            Hi Byron

            There is NO other script out there that can compete with Delavo simply because Delavo is so flexible. AND it is not just a membership script.

            Delavo will run your entire back office, your products, memberships, customers, affiliates, and much more.

            Yes, the plug-ins are an additioanl charge but the core Delavo is sufficient for at least 90% of all marketer needs. And just the core is 10x better than most membership scripts being offered or even those in development. Of course it is easy for someone to say how great a membership script they are developing is. Of course there is no comparison because Delavo is not just a membership script, it is a full business platform.

            And you do not need ANY plug-ins to turn Delavo into a "decent" membership. I currently run 4 memberships through Delavo without using a single plug-in.

            Why invest even 1 penny in a membership script that won't cover all your business needs beyond a membership and cover your needs into the future? And why invest in a script that will only run a membership when you can run your entire business with Delavo? And there are no limits as to how many memberships, products, members, etc. you can set up. And that is not the case with some of the other scripts being offered.

            I have been a Fantasos and now Delavo user since Fantasos was first released. Yes, I have looked at other scripts but NONE come even close to what Delavo does and NONE have the flexibility of Delavo.

            And yes, I am the Donna Walsh that writes the Delavo manuals and conducts the workshops. But I do that on a volunteer basis just because I think so highly of Delavo and want everyone to get this great script. And I conduct a FREE workshop every week about some function of Delavo. The workshop lasts about an hour and then there is an hour of open questions and answers where I will answer any questions you may have about anything related to Delavo. And these are recorded so you can access them anytime you wish, again at NO charge. No where do I see anyone offering the kind of support that is offered for Delavo.

            So don't settle for something that can only do a fraction of what Delavo does. You will regret it in the future especially when your needs outgrow whatever other script you settle for.

            Donna
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            • Profile picture of the author dlwalsh
              I did not "run down a script".

              I stated what is a fact and that is that Delavo is much more than a membership script. It is a full business platform. And Delavo does ALL that you have stated your script does plus much more.

              As to the price, what is cheaper than no charge?

              Donna
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              • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
                Originally Posted by dlwalsh View Post

                I did not "run down a script".

                I stated what is a fact and that is that Delavo is much more than a membership script. It is a full business platform. And Delavo does ALL that you have stated your script does plus much more.

                As to the price, what is cheaper than no charge?

                Donna
                Donna,
                You have stated these as facts

                There is NO other script out there that can compete with Delavo simply because Delavo is so flexible. AND it is not just a membership script.

                And just the core is 10x better than most membership scripts being offered or even those in development. Of course it is easy for someone to say how great a membership script they are developing is.
                For one you can not state that as fact on this forum because you have not tried every membership script nor have you seen the scripts in development. What you stated as fact is not fact, it is just your opinion.

                Also by making that statement you are infact saying that other forum members here that have developed membership scripts are no good. Again you can not state this as fact and unless you are a coder that actually develop scripts you can not state a core of a script is 10x better than others unless you have seen and understand the actual coding.

                James
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              • Profile picture of the author dlwalsh
                Foresights

                Just the Minisites feature alone (and it is an extra paid plug-in) is comparable to BFM. But Delavo again does so much more.

                Donna
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            • Profile picture of the author Jeff Henshaw
              Sorry actionplanbiz:

              I am looking for a membership Script too, but a lot more simple. Free Prefered

              Just to have people register and log in to access a Training center. and with the ability to track their activities

              if anyone can lead me into the right direction i would highly appreciate it

              Thanks
              I missed your post.

              Try big Mike's script at Incansoft (not an aff link). It's not free:-

              EZ Lesson Manager | Online Training at it's best! Create unlimited courses with text and multimedia. Offer paid or free courses...

              But it may be the sort of thing that you are looking for.

              Regards,
              Jeff Henshaw.
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        • Profile picture of the author Scott Anson
          I just want to add this for you information.

          The creator of DELAVO, John Delavera is not your average run of the mill script producer.
          I became associated with him about 3 and a half years ago.
          As I've watched everything he has created it always turns out to be something worth more than he charges.

          As everyone knows DELAVO is the third generation of JVManager.
          John has released so many upgrades since it was originally created that I don't know the exact number of upgrades.

          I do know this though, John has invested over $280,000.00 into DELAVO and over 4 years of time developing it. It's functionality has no rivals.

          There are other scripts that do some similar things. And some others that have different similarities. But nothing has all the functionality that DELAVO has.

          Like I said, I have been a loyal customer of John's for quite some time.

          John doesn't just see me as a customer. Because of my loyalty I have earned a preferred customer status. John calls it the CAP (Customer Appreciation Program). You can earn that status as easily as I have.

          When John released Fantasos, he allowed everyone who had JVM to upgrade for free. I did not have JVM. I didn't have the $150 to get it either. So I asked John if I could get it through his points system.

          John let me have JVM for 3000 points if I remember right. Then I upgraded to Fantasos for free. I was not a preferred customer then either, just someone who asked John for some help by giving me a special deal. He did so without a moments hesitation.

          I used Fantasos for over 2 years. And as John says, the use improves the user. I upgraded Fantasos whenever there was a free ugrade, and there were plenty.

          Then I decided I wanted to get some of the plugins that were available.
          John said if you get them all you get a special deal. As it turned out I did not have enough to get them all. Not all at once anyway.

          But I went to the order page just to see what I would end up paying, if I bought them all. It came to around 18 or 19 hundred bucks.

          But, I entered my email address and presto!

          Through John's CAP program I was being charged less than $12.00 per plugin.

          I thought I had broke John's Fantasos or something. Then I remembered John mentioned the CAP program before. I had no idea that I could get $2000 worth of upgrades for just over $250.00

          But I did and so can you!

          Hope that helps.

          Your friend,
          Scott
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    In DelAvo you can create a membership and the people who
    have the membership have a role (if you have the roles pluggin
    or a hosted account with it) - then you can create special
    affiliate programs for each product for owners of that roll.

    It's really incredibly flexible. I'm not quite sure what you are
    visualizing exactly but I'm pretty darn sure you would be
    satisfied with what the DelAvo system can do. It is not
    the cheapest solution though. It is however very flexible
    and clean-running.
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    • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
      There is one little catch to Delavo..

      Lets put it to you another way, why do you think so many people are promoting it? What are they actually getting out of it?? Course it sounds good when it says free, but wheres/what the catch.... Maybe its got something to do with the plugins/addons that you will need to make a decent membership site out of it..

      Maybe I wonder..........


      Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye View Post

      In DelAvo you can create a membership and the people who
      have the membership have a role (if you have the roles pluggin
      or a hosted account with it) - then you can create special
      affiliate programs for each product for owners of that roll.

      It's really incredibly flexible. I'm not quite sure what you are
      visualizing exactly but I'm pretty darn sure you would be
      satisfied with what the DelAvo system can do. It is not
      the cheapest solution though. It is however very flexible
      and clean-running.
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  • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
    There is one little catch to Delavo..

    Lets put it to you another way, why do you think so many people are promoting it? What are they actually getting out of it?? Course it sounds good when it says free, but wheres/what the catch.... Maybe its got something to do with the plugins/addons that you will need to make a decent membership site out of it..

    Maybe I wonder..........
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  • Profile picture of the author The Pension Guy
    The "catch" is - as always - in the backend sales and upsells, OTOs...
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    • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
      I know but unfortunately a lot of people will fall for it... Even I nearly did.. But when I dealve deeper into it, it was worth it... I rather spend the money upfront that way there is no hidden catches..

      Theres an old saying... "If it sounds too good to be true, then it normallly is..""

      Originally Posted by The Pension Guy View Post

      The "catch" is - as always - in the backend sales and upsells, OTOs...
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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by Byron_Wells View Post

        I know but unfortunately a lot of people will fall for it... Even I nearly did.. But when I dealve deeper into it, it was worth it... I rather spend the money upfront that way there is no hidden catches..

        Theres an old saying... "If it sounds too good to be true, then it normallly is..""
        Exact reason why you develop an affordable solution that offers everything someone needs right off the bat and offers a great deal more than anyone else... I have run and built many membership sites and I do not know about others but frankly I do not want to have to get this plugin or that plugin to run my site.

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      • Profile picture of the author Sonja
        Originally Posted by Byron_Wells View Post

        I know but unfortunately a lot of people will fall for it... Even I nearly did.. But when I dealve deeper into it, it was worth it... I rather spend the money upfront that way there is no hidden catches..

        Theres an old saying... "If it sounds too good to be true, then it normallly is..""

        Here's the thing. To make a blanket statement like that about Delavo tells me that you didn't "dealve" into it. Because if you did you would have discovered that Delavo delivered as is would be extremely useful for the average person. The plugins are an option. An option means that you can get it if you really need it. They are NOT REQUIRED to run the software.

        It's just like building a house. You are given a shell with all of the things you would need to live in the house. You have bedrooms, bathrooms, kitchen, garage, etc. But you have the OPTION of upgrading to get an additional room, get an additional sink in the master bath, jacuzzi, different elevations, etc. You get the picture.

        But....under no circumstances would these OPTIONS(PLUG-INS) prevent me from living my home very comfortably.

        However, in the future, if, and only if I deem that I want or need an upgrade to make living in my home a more pleasant experience, I have that option to do so.

        Delavo is built along these same lines. With Delavo you are given the ability to run your entire business through this ONE system. You can have memberships, minisites, manage your affiliates, autoresponders, pay commissions, various payment gateways, create short URLS, setup campaigns, setup JV products, customize your templates by integrating your salespage into the order page, offer hosted accounts, etc. And I have only touched on "some" of the capabilities of Delavo.

        So with this means that a person can start off their business, and as their business grows, they can easily add the plugin of their choice to their system. In other words, it will grow with you no matter how big or small your business needs are.

        Just as with wordpress. Wordpress is free, but there are plugins that you can buy to make your business a lot easier to manage. But I'm sure you don't think with wordpress that ""If it sounds too good to be true, then it normallly is..""

        It is fine that you want to go with another system. To each his own choice. There isn't one system that will satisfy everybody. But I just wanted to add some clarity here to others who may view this thread and take what you have said to be true, because it is not an accurate review of what Delavo is or about.
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  • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
    Lol

    I meant to say wasnt worth it lol lol lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    I have Fantasos Byron. DelAvo is an update of that.
    Excellent system, but you do need to invest beyond
    the "free" shell system to do what you want with it.

    The benefits of using it become more clear the more
    you use it. Believe me, I've had hard criticism of
    Fantasos myself, even while being a user of it.

    Is there a catch?

    Sure. That you'll like the basic functions so much you'll
    want to invest in a more feature-rich system.

    Buy it. Don't buy it. Makes no difference to me. You don't
    see me promoting an affiliate link, do you?
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    • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
      Loren

      I wasnt meaning you I was meaning in general


      Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye View Post

      I have Fantasos Byron. DelAvo is an update of that.
      Excellent system, but you do need to invest beyond
      the "free" shell system to do what you want with it.

      The benefits of using it become more clear the more
      you use it. Believe me, I've had hard criticism of
      Fantasos myself, even while being a user of it.

      Is there a catch?

      Sure. That you'll like the basic functions so much you'll
      want to invest in a more feature-rich system.

      Buy it. Don't buy it. Makes no difference to me. You don't
      see me promoting an affiliate link, do you?
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    No worries,

    you'll get used to whatever you choose and start to
    prefer it. Then you may find you want to grow in some
    new way and there is no way you can get your present
    system to grow that way. Then you hurt because you
    have to re-engineer with a new script/system and
    it's a PITA to do it.

    All I can say is that DelAvo and a few others are at the
    front in terms of addressing the changing needs of marketers
    and trying to do it really well. I've been looking at a lot
    of ecommerce systems lately - not because I need a new
    one (I have thousands invested in what I have) but because
    I want to understand the issues better because I sell hosted
    accounts in my system.

    The clientele I'm interested in going after is not "IM savvy"
    at all, so I really want to offer a turnkey solution. DelAvo
    comes close to being a big part of the puzzle for that vision.

    I've looked at other excellent systems too. Cydec-based
    solutions like MarketersCart look pretty cool. InfusionSoft
    of course is good. Then there are scripts you run yourself,
    and they all have issues that come up the more creative
    you try to get with them.

    Chances are there are a lot of different ways to make the
    same money from your customers... not just one way to run
    an affiliate program or whatever. Sometimes exploring what
    the extant solution CAN do reveals options you wouldn't
    think of in a vacuum.
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  • Profile picture of the author ProfitMan
    Sorry if this has been mentioned before but have you tried Amember? It's a script for membership sites I've heard it does everything, check it out as im not 100% sure it does what you're after but i don't really know. People seem to rave about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    I don't think the preferred customer pricing discount is in
    effect anymore... it was a limited-time promotion that
    expired. It would not surprise me if it comes around again
    sometime. The discounts were really quite generous.

    If a new link for the customer appreciation program went
    out it may have slipped by me.
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    • Profile picture of the author dlwalsh
      Hi Loren

      The Customer Appreciation program is still in effect.

      I just tested it.

      And yes, the discounts are still VERY generous. Thanks John!

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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Anson
    As a preffered customer, I get the CAP on everything I buy throught the Turbo empire.
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    I guess it may only be for Turbo members. As a Fantasos
    full-retail buyer I got access, but the coupons expired
    and it appears they are only now available to Turbo membership
    people.

    If I'm wrong, please correct me.
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    • Profile picture of the author dlwalsh
      Hi Loren

      No coupons are required.

      Just type in your email address and when you submit your order, the price changes.

      Donna
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    • Profile picture of the author Edwin Green
      Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye View Post

      I guess it may only be for Turbo members. As a Fantasos
      full-retail buyer I got access, but the coupons expired
      and it appears they are only now available to Turbo membership
      people.

      If I'm wrong, please correct me.
      Hi Loren

      Donna is correct. The CAP is still Very Active. :-)

      Delavo is Very Smart.

      It retains All Information on every one of your customers.

      This is Just One Of The Features That Make Delavo Superior
      to All Other Business Management Scripts.

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      • Profile picture of the author Foresights
        Some people mentioned DelAvo basic is free, but I can't find any link to this.

        Does anyone know how it compatres to ButterFly marketing 2.0?

        Thanks,

        - Vince
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        • Profile picture of the author dlwalsh
          Johnny

          That contest is run by Ted Turner every year.

          The contest is open to all and anyone can nominate anyone or anything in the many categories.

          Some categories are:
          Male IM Marketer Of The Yeat
          Female IN Marketer of the Year
          Best Membership Site
          Best Launch
          Best Script
          and many other categories.

          This particular contest was held in 2008 for 2007.

          And that is when Fantasos won as the Best New Script released in 2007.

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          • Profile picture of the author dlwalsh
            Hi James

            I am not talking about web awards, I am talking about being nominated for and then winning the Best Script of the Year award. So if you have won any awards, I am happy for you but were any for the Best Script Of The Year?

            And I don't follow people blindly. I do follow those with integretity though they are few and far between.

            As for ASKING Mark Joyner to recommend a script by belonging to his forum, can you point me to the post where John Delavera actually asked him to do that? And if it is so easy to get Mark to recommend something, I would expect to see many more recommendations from him. Besides which we are not talking a one sentence recommendation. Have you listened to the interview that Mark did with John?

            BTW Since it definitely is advantageous to have someone of Mark's caliber and reputation backing a product, will you be asking him to recommend your membership script?

            I do agree that no one should get and use a product unless it is what is right for his business. But in order to know what is right, that person needs to know the differences between what different products do.

            And having used Fantasos and now Delavo, I can honestly say that Delavo is the best for me and many marketers agree with me. I have tried several membership scripts (and yes, that includes every one that is mentioned on this thread). But again why would I settle for just a membership script when Delavo does so much more.

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            • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
              Originally Posted by dlwalsh View Post

              Hi James

              I am not talking about web awards, I am talking about being nominated for and then winning the Best Script of the Year award. So if you have won any awards, I am happy for you but were any for the Best Script Of The Year?

              And I don't follow people blindly. I do follow those with integretity though they are few and far between.

              As for ASKING Mark Joyner to recommend a script by belonging to his forum, can you point me to the post where John Delavera actually asked him to do that? And if it is so easy to get Mark to recommend something, I would expect to see many more recommendations from him. Besides which we are not talking a one sentence recommendation. Have you listened to the interview that Mark did with John?

              BTW Since it definitely is advantageous to have someone of Mark's caliber and reputation backing a product, will you be asking him to recommend your membership script?

              I do agree that no one should get and use a product unless it is what is right for his business. But in order to know what is right, that person needs to know the differences between what different products do.

              And having used Fantasos and now Delavo, I can honestly say that Delavo is the best for me and many marketers agree with me. I have tried several membership scripts (and yes, that includes every one that is mentioned on this thread). But again why would I settle for just a membership script when Delavo does so much more.

              Donna
              Donna,
              I hate to inform you but what I am fixing to release (and some top marketers have seen it) is far more than just a membership site - It is a complete business package all-in-one. There is nothing like this on the market in IM... Yes I have won awards for coding and design both and some of those from nationally published places not just some IM Face.

              Your problem is you put down everything else and state your opinions as facts and they are not facts. I have notice you do this in the product review section also and on some other blogs. What you do not understand yet is that your opinion is just that - "Your Opinion" and not FACT!

              I have no need to waste my time with some interview, big deal someone did an interview.. Again you need to understand marketing a great deal more then what you think you do. We all know what interviews are and we all know why 100 marketers spam the heck out of you to try and get this product and that product. DUH!! This is a marketing forum.

              Personally I got bored with his forum and I am not saying that to put down anyone. Mark Joyner is a self made man and one of the ones that help start this entire IM thing. For me though, his forum got boring and I have not been back to it in months. This is my personal "opinion".

              I am gald you like the product you use, that's great! Now just stop posting things as fact that are not fact and stop trying to push a script on someone that already has it and stated his opinion of it. Why do you get so angry over this is beyond me... Out of the blogs and other threads you have argued on I always seen you must have the final say. One blog even blocked comments out to stop you from posting, that should tell you something...

              James
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    I am definately a Turbo person!
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    Thanks. I'll try that.

    I'm only now getting around to upgrading to Delavo -
    I haven't been engaged in looking at the new plugins
    yet because I was still running with Fantasos.
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  • Profile picture of the author projek001
    Just want to give you my opinion.

    It's very difficult to find a 100% clickbank clone. But, you can try to hire a programer to create the script for you.

    Or

    You can try to search the script at: Hot Scripts - The net's largest PHP, CGI, Perl, JavaScript and ASP script collection and resource web portal.
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    PM me or ask me via Yahoo Messenger (my id:saifulbest) for more info about this crazy deal.
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  • Profile picture of the author dlwalsh
    READ what I said. I said MOST membership scripts and I have tried a bunch and have found that none of those come close to Delavo. Have YOU tried Delavo?

    And Delavo is much more than a membership script. Memberships are a small part of Delavo so how can a membership script compete with a complete business platform?

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  • Profile picture of the author UncleHQ
    Hi All,

    Byron, you want to run a service like click bank but don't want to spend a few thousand dollars, sorry not possible.

    What is possible is to get Delavo with a few plugins to start to do that (hosted accounts are the key).

    Click Bank is a system that you cannot even get near to without the same investment and time.

    The Rich Jerks Net - hmm not sure I would buy a script (no matter how good I am sure it will be one day) from you James - No offense - I agree with you at least about not running down anything I have not seen so I cannot comment (I know Donna and I do not believe she would do this either).

    I hope everyone here got a copy of Delavo for free or as part of a promotion and spent some time looking at it, I use a basic version to run one of my membership sites and it does it just fine.

    Of course - like Loren - I have a version of JVManager 2 Fantasos Upgraded to Delavo and there is nothing I have come across that it cannot do (I am very demanding).

    My experience has been that choosing the right script from the beginning and working with it is a very good start (I looked for 2 years before I found what was then JVM-1 and scrapped all the others - most of which are mentioned on this forum) and that out of the way, being diciplined enough to take your business idea and promote the hell out of it and invest in it are enough to be concerned about.

    Someone above mentioned that there were a lot of people promoting Delavo to get commissions on the plugins - hell if that is a bad idea then you're in the wrong place and a CB clone is a bad idea (correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that effectivly what they do?).

    Brian
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by briancol View Post

      The Rich Jerks Net - hmm not sure I would buy a script (no matter how good I am sure it will be one day) from you James - No offense - I agree with you at least about not running down anything I have not seen so I cannot comment .

      I hope everyone here got a copy of Delavo for free or as part of a promotion and spent some time looking at it, I use a basic version to run one of my membership sites and it does it just fine.

      Of course - like Loren - I have a version of JVManager 2 Fantasos Upgraded to Delavo and there is nothing I have come across that it cannot do (I am very demanding).

      My experience has been that choosing the right script from the beginning and working with it is a very good start (I looked for 2 years before I found what was then JVM-1 and scrapped all the others - most of which are mentioned on this forum) and that out of the way, being diciplined enough to take your business idea and promote the hell out of it and invest in it are enough to be concerned about.

      Someone above mentioned that there were a lot of people promoting Delavo to get commissions on the plugins - hell if that is a bad idea then you're in the wrong place and a CB clone is a bad idea (correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that effectivly what they do?).

      Brian
      Brian,
      No offense taken at all, people should buy or use what they feel is in their best interest. I was asked if I have seen or used Delavo, yes I have and matter fact I am a paying member of a few sites that use it.. I have told those site owners as a paying member my opinion.

      What I do find amazing is how much someone tries to push a product on the OP that the OP already has and is not happy with ...lol The way I read some responses it is like they are calling the OP an idiot or something. If the OP is not happy with what he has then he will find something else that does make him happy and no matter how many times you post how great a product is for "you" does not mean it is for everyone.

      James
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      • Profile picture of the author dlwalsh
        James

        Being a paying member of a site that offers hosted accounts of Delavo is so different from actually owning it. The reason being that the hosted account provider determines what you have access to and what you don't. So how can you know what Dealvo can do if you don't have access to all availbale features?

        I just finished conducting a 4 hour workshop on setting up hosted accounts in Delavo and I showed attendees 7 different accounts they could set up from basic to ALMOST full blown access to everything including all available plug-ins. And the reason why I say ALMOST is because there are some things that a hosted account provider will not give members access to.

        So unless you have the full access, you will not know what Delavo can do.

        And yes, you are right that not everyone likes the same things. However some of the better know marketers on the Internet use Delavo rather than some other script. which is a recommendarion in itself.

        And the best is that Mark Joyner personally recommends Delavo and that right there says a lot for Delavo. How many other scripts mentioned here has Mark Joyner personally recommended? That's right None, a big fat zero.

        And Delavo is based on Fantasos which was voted by users as the 2007 Best Script of the year. Which of the scripts mentioned here have won such an award?

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        • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
          As I said I have seen Delavo.. I can show you a hundred scripts that I have built from the ground up that have won actual web awards so I really do not understand your point. I have no idea why you are so determined to push a script on someone, it really looks unprofessional...

          You mention Mark Joyner recommends the script.. Ok fine, what's your point ?? I am a member of his forum and I certainly could get him to do the same if I wanted to do so. I have seen him post and ask people a question and the best answer he would post on his blog and help the person promote what they have. Does this mean Mark Joyner used the product himself ??? NO!!!

          You seem to have a misunderstanding of marketing and I know many have tried to get this same point across. Marketing is not about following someone else or doing what this guru or that guru says to do. I know many "self proclaimed marketers" (and I use that term loosely) that sell crappy products and false and misleading information, does that mean we should buy from them and follow them ????

          Marketing is about what is best for that persons business, what they feel they need or should use. Not what 10 other marketers use and not what someone wants to force down their throats. Since you state that you know what many marketers use then you should also know that many marketers discuss their plans in the background and do not tell others what they use or plan to use.

          Look at it - The OP starts a thread and he also states he does not think Delavo is worth it so what happens, his thread gets hi-jacked and Delavo is being pushed at him left and right. Do you have a problem because someone does not like or want to use Delavo ???? Because your actions say you do....

          James


          Originally Posted by dlwalsh View Post

          James

          Being a paying member of a site that offers hosted accounts of Delavo is so different from actually owning it. The reason being that the hosted account provider determines what you have access to and what you don't. So how can you know what Dealvo can do if you don't have access to all availbale features?

          I just finished conducting a 4 hour workshop on setting up hosted accounts in Delavo and I showed attendees 7 different accounts they could set up from basic to ALMOST full blown access to everything including all available plug-ins. And the reason why I say ALMOST is because there are some things that a hosted account provider will not give members access to.

          So unless you have the full access, you will not know what Delavo can do.

          And yes, you are right that not everyone likes the same things. However some of the better know marketers on the Internet use Delavo rather than some other script. which is a recommendarion in itself.

          And the best is that Mark Joyner personally recommends Delavo and that right there says a lot for Delavo. How many other scripts mentioned here has Mark Joyner personally recommended? That's right None, a big fat zero.

          And Delavo is based on Fantasos which was voted by users as the 2007 Best Script of the year. Which of the scripts mentioned here have won such an award?

          Donna
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        • Profile picture of the author Johnny Slater
          I'm just wondering something.. who exactly gave that award and where can someone go to verify it?

          The way you word this statement it sounds like it's based on Fantasos user comments, not an award given out by a third party which is impartial.

          Originally Posted by dlwalsh View Post

          And Delavo is based on Fantasos which was voted by users as the 2007 Best Script of the year. Which of the scripts mentioned here have won such an award?
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          • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
            Originally Posted by Johnny Slater View Post

            I'm just wondering something.. who exactly gave that award and where can someone go to verify it?

            The way you word this statement it sounds like it's based on Fantasos user comments, not an award given out by a third party which is impartial.
            Alright Johnny

            Thanks for your help

            Im just going to pm you in a little bit
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    If cooler heads do not prevail this thread deserves to get
    vaporized.

    I remember when Fantasos won the award back in 2007 -
    it wasn't a "house organ" type of thing, but really... who
    gives a crap?

    Use it, don't use it. Argue about it. Whatever - get the chip
    off your shoulders and figure out how YOU can take whatever
    your favorite project is and carve out a niche to sell it in.

    What's the point of saying "my script is better than Delavo" ??
    It has the opposite effect intended.

    Arguably DelAvo's flaw is it's positioning as a "do everything"
    product. It is somewhat nebulous. You want to compete
    with it? Ok. No problem. Competition is good for the customer
    because it forces product makers to do their work better.

    Seriously friends, positioning your product as "the best
    membership script" is uncreative marketing and likely to be
    ineffective. It's like Toyota saying "we have the best car" -
    it's at the level of rhetoric.

    You want to be a better marketer or you want to be in a
    pissing contest?

    If the former, then work hard with your BRAIN to figure out
    not only how you can make an excellent product and offer
    to the marketplace, but how you can carve-up and sub-niche
    the marketplace so in your self-created category you are
    dominant.

    This is like the stupid argument about who is the best guitar
    player... because it depends on arbitrary personal standards,
    values, tastes, and, frankly, limitations in the thinking of the
    people doing the arguing.

    I don't say this to say "I don't have limited thinking and you
    do" - I say it because I struggle daily with self-imposed
    limitations in my own thinking. It is not relentless happy-face
    positivism that wins-out in my experience - it is the sincere
    desire to be effective in what you do.

    A bad carpenter does bad work and blames his tools. A good
    carpenter can do excellent work with mediocre and limited
    tools. A true artist can make-do with very little and
    create something that changes people's thinking.

    This sounds cliche, but it is true and I know it from
    personal experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnny Slater
    Donna,

    I believe what may have ruffeled some feathers here is that you are stating your opinions as if they are unbreakable facts.

    It is clear that you think that Delavo is the best thing since sliced bread, and there is nothing wrong with that. However, your constant statements that nothing comes close and that Delavo is the only solution that anyone should ever use comes across much different than I think you intend for it to.

    You over and over have stated that it is more than just a "membership script." In fact, most of the "membership scripts" on the market today are more than just that. Delavo is not the only solution which handles more than just memberships.

    Also, you mentioned before that unless someone has seen the inside of Delavo then they are not qualified to make a determination on its features or uses. I believe the same is true of you. Unless you have actually been through the admin panel of BFM, LFM, EMP, SMP, My Membership Script, Membership Supreme, the several WP scripts, RAP, DLGuard, and the countless other scripts then you are not qualified to state beyond a shadow of a doubt that Delavo is the best. Until you have used each and every script available and can speak from personal experience of the admin feature set then what you post here is just your opinion, not forgone fact.

    There are quite a few solutions which offer features that Delavo can't touch, quite a few which have similar features, and one or two that are close to being identical, ranging from free to costing thousands of dollars.

    As someone who has spent 3 years making sure that the solution I provide has unique features not found in any other script, your comments do come across as a bit biased and derogatory to any script that isn't Delavo.

    Also, no one solution will ever be right for everyone. It is impossible and will never happen. Each person has their own personal needs and no solution can be everything to everyone. It is clear that you believe that Delavo is a great product, and from what I have seen from the core version I have I agree with you on that point.

    However, the OP in this thread said that he wasnt considering that product and so far your only comments that I have seen here have been trying to convice the OP that he should change his mind based only on your opinion.

    You are a part of the Delavo business and as such you will say your (the company you are associated with) product is the best thing going. However, if any of us who are the actual owners of product tried as hard as you do to pressure people into buying our product we would have our posts deleted in a second. You do not own the product and don't have a monitary stake in someone purchasing so you can make comments that we can't. That can be used to be a positive thing for Delavo or a negative one. To be honest, everytime I have come across threads where you are posting on this topic you end up coming across as doing more harm than good. This is just my personal opinion, but your abrasive way of posting does turn me off, and I would imagine I am not the only one that feels that way.
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    • Profile picture of the author dlwalsh
      Johnny

      You have made an asssumption that I haven't tried other scripts. But you are wrong, as I HAVE tried many of those you have listed and did not find any that had all the features that Delavo has. And I have stated that people should use what best meets their needs and I agree that what works for one person may not work for another. However, I have tested and tried MULTIPLE scripts and still stand by my belief that Delavo is the best.

      And YOU have made another wrong assumption. I am NOT part of the Delavo business. Yes, I am a Turbo Member and have been for over 3 years and yes, I do promote John Delavera's products. I even help him by producing the official documentation for Delavo on a VOLUNTEER basis. However, I am NOT part of John's business.

      I am also friends with other Internet marketers and promote their products too even though I am not part of their business either. I even promote products that I think are good even if I don't care for the product's owner and that is more often the case.

      If you don't like the way I post, there is nothing I can do about it. But then again, I don't care for the way a lot of people post.

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      • Profile picture of the author Johnny Slater
        Donna,

        I'm not assuming your a part of the Delavo business. You yourself stated you produced the documentation, and you put yourself at the forefront by taking on an "unofficial" support position when you see someone posting here with problems with one of John's products.

        You associate yourself with the business in a way that makes you a part of it, be it official or unofficial. You put yourself in that poisition.

        I also don't assume you haven't tried any other product. I said unless you have tried ALL of them then you can not state for a fact that Delavo is better than every other script, which is something you have done several times in this thread. Trying 10 percent, 50 percent, even 99 percent of all other solutions doesn't qualify you to state beyond a shadow of a doubt that Delavo is the best unless you have tried EVERY OTHER solution avaliable.

        Unless you provide proof to back up your statements then your stating opinion and not fact.


        Originally Posted by dlwalsh View Post

        Johnny
        And YOU have made another wrong assumption. I am NOT part of the Delavo business. Yes, I am a Turbo Member and have been for over 3 years and yes, I do promote John Delavera's products. I even w
        help him by producing the official documentation for Delavo. However, I am NOT part of John's business.
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        • Profile picture of the author dlwalsh
          James

          I am anxiously awaiting the release of your product so I can compare features between what you offer and what Delavo offers. Until that product is released, there is no way for me or anyone else to see if you really are offering something that nothing available in IM compares with it.

          It is easy to say that but until the product is actually released, there is no way to verify what you say.

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  • Profile picture of the author nathanro
    IMHO I think Delavo is an excellent choice for most if not all people.
    The free version is complete for anyone starting out, the plug-ins are actually too much for most, some most people will never need or use.

    They are more like a way to make Delavo your customized version of your own system.

    Some plug-ins are really something that I am sure most people would like to have.

    What I have seen by trying different programs, is that most always leave something out, there is no one program that will do the work for you, that is granted, but the simplicity with which I can have my entire online business, be that membership sites, products, affiliate programs, and more is not something I have found somewhere else yet.

    Another added bonus is that you can create your sites with regular HTML programs, so they can look and feel exactly they way you want, and with Delavo you just add the protection you need.

    There is a huge advantage to Delavo, being that in its free level, you can already have unlimited products and membership sites. I mean unlimited because it is also not tied to run them on the same host (advantage number 1)

    The second thing is that you can give your members access to different products and sites automatically, since they all run under the same "roof".

    You can give the discount coupons, you can basically manage everything from one spot.

    What most people are not seeing is that by not using a system like Delavo, that allows you to even sell your products through clickbank if you want to, that they are missing on the added security.

    There are thousands of dollars out there of products that have an unprotected thank you page.

    Most people find it very hard to implement a membership script every single time, you have to purchase a license, upload everything, set it up, IT IS A PAIN.

    With Delavo you can do that in a couple of seconds, if not a couple of minutes.

    Since Delavo is already installed on your server, all you have to do is tell Delavo what folder you want protected and where to find it, put the proper info to access it and that is it.
    You have a protected folder with a system that will keep track of every single customer you have.

    This is again something important, you made a sale but you did not keep the customers information, this happens so often, and it is a shame, you are leaving money on the table.

    I was trying to move some of my membership sites (that did not use Delavo) over to Delavo, only to find out that the amazing script that I was using did not have an export feature.

    Now imagine that my sites have a couple of thousand people that I have to manually COPY AND PASTE to my Delavo... and you start understanding why Delavo is a smart choice.

    It is not about "My program is better than yours" contest.

    It is about what actually works on all angles.

    There are fast choices, there are good choices, and there are smart choices.

    Delavo is the smart choice mainly because if you are planning on making a business online (and not a quick sale and quick cash) then you are going to grow, and Delavo will be able to allow for that growth to happen.

    At least that is the way I see it, but that is only me.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by nathanro View Post


      It is not about "My program is better than yours" contest.
      Exactly .. and the only reason why me and johnny responded to Donna was because she:

      1. Put down all other products which is against the forum rules
      2. She stated her opinion as fact
      3. Claimed to have tried ALL solutions "even those in development as she said".

      Nobody else in this thread said anything about mine is better than yours but Donna... Which as Johnny stated she is taking on the role of being a partner and her post they way they are sure does not help Delavo's cause any...

      Originally Posted by nathanro View Post


      It is about what actually works on all angles.

      There are fast choices, there are good choices, and there are smart choices.
      Again exactly ... This was my point to begin with.. What your post did leave out is the fact that SEO is very important and the fact of not needing a html editor (offline software) is also very important.

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  • Profile picture of the author dlwalsh
    Hi James

    Let's put the argument to rest.

    I will have John give Delavo free to anyone that posted here and you and Johnny do the same.

    Then we will allow the users to compare.

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    • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
      Originally Posted by dlwalsh View Post

      Hi James

      Let's put the argument to rest.

      I will have John give Delavo free to anyone that posted here and you and Johnny do the same.

      Then we will allow the users to compare.

      Donna
      You still do not get it do you ... Even after people post and explain it to you in detail. That is a real shame and no offense but thank god you are not one of my support reps.

      I see no argument but you putting down others products, stating opinion as fact, and you trying to force a product (that you claim you have no ties to) down someones throat.

      Not to mention the fact that you hijacked the OP's thread... Why do you find it so hard to see or even admit that what you done was wrong ????????

      James
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  • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
    God

    I have been away for a few days getting ready to move on the 1st.. And this post has turn into an debate lol lol

    Can everyone just calm down... I wished I never asked the question to begin with now lol lol
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  • Profile picture of the author bigfee
    Okay,

    I have read several forums trying to find an answer to some issues I'm having in developing my own membership site script. This forum caught my attention.

    Before I go into what the script will and won't do, allow me to post the known vulnurabilities.

    1. No license file requirement. I need to "require" a license file prior to releasing my script to the public.

    2. I need to add a data base querry to the script so that free members can't access the paid members area.

    The next issue isn't a security issue but, I would like to add a cron job to the script so that people without a VDS can throttle the number of emails sent per hour / per day to make the script more desirable to a wider audience.

    Any advice would be appreciated.

    Once completed the script will:

    1. Allow you to set up free memberships and 5 levels of paid memberships (default settings). Of course, you can opt to block or delete any level you don't want to use and it includes 10 pre-designed download pages per membership level.

    2. Ability to set / change the prices of each membership level you choose to use.

    3. Choose from several different payment processors including PayPal.

    4. You choose how much (if any) you wish to pay out in commissions for referals (affiliate program). You can even choose how much commissions will be based on a member's membership level.

    5. Option to choose your default currency (USD, GBP, EUROS).

    6. Ability to mass email all members (that's why I need to set up a cron job).

    7. Choose from 10 different layouts.

    8. Mix and match graphics to suit your needs (I still have a ton of graphics editing to do).

    There are many other options available but, since this isn't "sales copy" I will leave it at that except to say that, while the script is geared more towards digital downloads it could easily be adapted to photo hosting (even pR0n).

    I'm thinking that for what the script offers, somewhere in the neighborhood of $175 a pop. Before I can sell it though, I have to work my security issues.

    Any advice on the security issues would be appreciated. I would also, like to know if that sounds like a reasonable price.

    Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Johnny Slater
    Bryan,

    Since I sold off my entire business and no longer have anything to do with Simple Member Pro I can now post about it. SMP will do what you are trying to accomplish, provided you use PayPal as the payment processor.

    SMP has the ability to sell an unlimited number of products from the same site. You set one product as the main site product and can link to all other product sales pages directly. Each product has it's own affilite commission structure and each product has the ability to either show or not show inside the members area when members check for what products they can promote.

    The script has a new owner now but as the programmer of it for over 2 years I can tell you that it does have the ability to run a marketplace type of site. You don't have as many options as a site like Clickbank but it will sell multiple products.
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  • Profile picture of the author charlesburke
    Wow! I love it when two factions, both very proud and very loyal to their products, stand up and compare benefits. Great information, guys - and thanks. We members are benefiting from the discussion in a big way.

    One thing I'll say, I'm impressed with the customar loyalty we're seeing here. That doesn't happen without good reason.

    Cheers from warm and smiling Thailand,
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    • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
      Originally Posted by charlesburke View Post

      Wow! I love it when two factions, both very proud and very loyal to their products, stand up and compare benefits. Great information, guys - and thanks. We members are benefiting from the discussion in a big way.

      One thing I'll say, I'm impressed with the customar loyalty we're seeing here. That doesn't happen without good reason.

      Cheers from warm and smiling Thailand,
      Charles
      Charles

      Thank you for commenting that my post has been constructive and useful to other warriors out there
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  • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
    Byron,
    PM has already been sent in reply to yours... I know you are moving so I will await your reply once you see everything.

    James
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    • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
      Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

      Byron,
      PM has already been sent in reply to yours... I know you are moving so I will await your reply once you see everything.

      James
      Alright James

      I have just finally got back onto the internet after the hectic move, and waiting for the engineers to get their act together and install the net at my house...

      Will be replying back to your pm in a little bit
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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Originally Posted by Byron_Wells View Post

        Alright James

        I have just finally got back onto the internet after the hectic move, and waiting for the engineers to get their act together and install the net at my house...

        Will be replying back to your pm in a little bit
        PM sent back Byron... We will get you taken care of... Yes my script will do exactly what you want. I think someone mentioned in this thread that a custom built script to function somewhat like CB will cost you $100,000 or some bull .. LOL

        You're not going to find a script that duplicates any of these models for a few hundred dollars, if that's what you had in mind.
        I guess I can put that myth to rest ....

        James
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    • Profile picture of the author Byron_Wells
      Originally Posted by laramarket View Post

      I use BFM Script for all my websites. I can install and config this script to you at no cost. Just PM me.
      BFM I believe is a very expensive script for someone who is just starting out
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    • Profile picture of the author bigfee
      Originally Posted by laramarket View Post

      I use BFM Script for all my websites. I can install and config this script to you at no cost. Just PM me.
      Thank you for the offer, laramarket. I'm actually looking to add the functionality to my script, not add more scripts to my server.

      I have taken care of all of my issues except licensing. One option I'm looking into is adding a license file that is authenticated by a SOAP call to my server. There are several options out there but, for now SOAP seems to be closest to what I'm looking for.

      Again, thank you for the offer.
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