Where and How to outsource a quality eBook (100+ pages)

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Hi Warriors! Happy New Year. I have a couple questions about outsourcing an eBook...

1) How would you recommend outsourcing a quality eBook?

2) Should I pay a fixed price or pay hourly? (because in one sense I want a really high quality eBook and don't want to just give a fixed price b/c I feel they'll rush through it just to finish ...but hourly worries me b/c they'll take their time.)

3) How much should I expect to pay for a 100 page original ebook? (this will not be an internet marketing ebook; rather a niche topic and it will be sold at $27-$47)

4) Where should I look for a good writer?

5) How do you ensure the eBook the the writer creates is original and not stealing anyone's work?

Thanks so much! Any help/suggestions would be appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    I'm not sure how you decided the book should be 100 pages. You need to define your objectives to the writer and let them determine how long the book is according to those objectives.

    People that get hung up on the length of an eBook are missing the point. People that buy information are most often looking to solve a problem. What if you can solve a serious issue in 10 pages? How much would that be worth?

    Let me ask you this and I'll tell you how realistic it is in relation to what you're looking to accomplish. How much do you expect to pay for this ebook?
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  • Profile picture of the author jamescanz
    First place I would think of is odesk or guru.com and paying a fixed price compared to hourly.

    However, I would be very, very clear on your instructions.

    The tone of which you want the eBook produced, that you will probably want them to make revisions, etc...

    In terms of them not copying someone elses work, this thread might help:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ism-ebook.html
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeTX
    1. Take your time to find a good writer, because most of are bad or average. Most important thing.
    2. Pay fixed price. Tell your write that he only gets payment if you are happy, no errors, plagiarism check... make sure they don't rush it... you set the rules here
    3. $100+ for 10k words depending on your budget
    4. Elance/Odesk, textbroker
    5. copyscape
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    • Profile picture of the author WebPen
      Originally Posted by MikeTX View Post

      1. Take your time to find a good writer, because most of are bad or average. Most important thing.
      2. Pay fixed price. Tell your write that he only gets payment if you are happy, no errors, plagiarism check... make sure they don't rush it... you set the rules here
      3. $100+ for 10k words depending on your budget
      4. Elance/Odesk, textbroker
      5. copyscape
      Coming from a writer's side of things... I don't start any project without getting some kind of payment upfront. It's very easy to get burned if I hand a client a complete project before they send a dime.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
      Originally Posted by MikeTX View Post

      Tell your write that he only gets payment if you are happy, no errors, plagiarism check... make sure they don't rush it... you set the rules here
      If you want the writer to reply to him with, "F*ck off!", then that's a great suggestion.

      Do you really think a good writer will write 100 pages and hope they'll get paid?

      Originally Posted by MikeTX View Post

      3. $100+ for 10k words depending on your budget
      So you're telling the guy to find a good writer, but then advise them to pay him peanuts (and only after finishes the job)? Tell me, would you work 25 hours for $100? Because that's the minimum amount of time a good writer needs to research for and string together 10,000 decent words, give or take.

      Anyway, for the OP: 100 pages is not the measure writers are looking for when giving you a price quote. Number of words is what they're looking for. And I also agree with Travlinguy: why do you really want 100 pages? Maybe you can get your point(s) across in fewer and pay the writer less.

      Now, to give you some estimate of how much you're looking to pay: I often see good writers selling 500-word articles for $40-$50, and some for even more than that. But I'm sure they'll give you a discount if you have such a large order.

      Of course, there are many writer-wannabe's around here who will say they'll write it for a lot less than that, but you'll most likely end up with an expensive turd. So, beware.
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    What do you consider a page? I consider a page to be 250 words and that
    will be therefore a 25,000 words book. You need to look for ghostwriters
    and the better ones are going to cost you more. I don't ghostwrite anymore,
    but when I did I charged $60 per page up to 100 pages and $30 per page after
    that.

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  • Profile picture of the author arindamb
    Understanding that the ebook would require some niche specific research and some images too, a 100 page product could cost you $1000+. Saying this because I get my stuff done from someone form this very forum and my last e-book which retails for $67 (around 100 pages) cost me $1425.

    Some would say I overpaid and some might disagree...but the product I got was superb and that's what I wanted anyway.
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    • Profile picture of the author Raydal
      Originally Posted by arindamb View Post

      Understanding that the ebook would require some niche specific research and some images too, a 100 page product could cost you $1000+. Saying this because I get my stuff done from someone form this very forum and my last e-book which retails for $67 (around 100 pages) cost me $1425.

      Some would say I overpaid and some might disagree...but the product I got was superb and that's what I wanted anyway.
      So you mean that you sell just 22 books and then you are in pure profit
      zone? Once your book sells I say that you under-paid.

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  • Profile picture of the author Jarvis Edwards
    100 pages is a lot to write!

    My initial guess is that you wouldn't even need 100 pages to get your point across in its entirety, with a capable writer. A page is roughly 250-500 words, so you'd need about 25,000-50,000 words in order to meet the 100-page mark.

    I've written several eBooks and they all stop short of the 90-pages, yet the time invested to research, write and edit the eBooks was considerable. To the tune of 1 week to 3 months, depending on the book's subject matter.

    A good writer will charge accordingly, and it won't be a budget price. You can pay a low amount for "sub-par" work, or you can pay a premium for top-notch quality.

    For instance, I'd charge a minimum of 50% of the total projected price--upfront.
    And that would be based on at least $50-$100 per page.

    If you want to save money, I'd recommend hiring a decent article writer.
    Conceptualize how you'd want to segment the eBook and create your outline based on that. That outline will be used to create your Table of Contents, which will also be based on your article titles.

    Go to a cheap article site such as Textbroker and hire a writer willing to work for peanut dust. About $.01 per word or less. You now have the chance the read over each article to make sure they meet your expectations, or request revisions.

    You don't want to pay hourly and risk being milked dry by some unsavory character, as you'll be open to shady billing practices and possible exploitation of trust. Flat rates are the only way to go.

    You can then create roughly 10+ titles that all correspond to your eBook's subject and have them write articles for each topic. These articles will become your eBook.

    10 articles x 500 words each = 5,000 words. ($50.00)

    If you want 50,000 words, you pay $500.00.

    That's probably the best way to get "decent" content that won't break the bank.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    I agree with Lucian. He and I are both writers. You want to be able to pay upfront if you want good quality work.
    I charge flat rates and it is based on a rough word count. Hourly rates are useless because a crappy writer will string it out to make more money and give you a crappy book.

    You can find some great writers in this forum. You might find someone good in the bidding sites but it is harder to do because you'll need to filter the people who apply.

    Cost also depend son the topic and how well the writer already knows it.
    It also depends on how much info you provide. e.g. table of contents, story outline, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author mmo1
    Hi there,

    In my opinion, after working much time on Odesk, I think we should go for fixed price and you pay for freelancer for each milestones - Best Way To Manage

    Regards
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