Sales Funnels Starting With A Squeeze Page

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Hey,

Is this enough for a sales funnel?

1/ Find a product you want to promote
2/ Build a squeeze page to get people to sign up for a FREE ebook/email course/video etc with targeted PPC
3/ Build a list with said squeeze page offer
4/ Email useful information to list with affiliate offers in the text

Or do you need to build a whole authority site/blog etc around the squeeze page?

I just want to see a bit of income trickling in so I can get my confidence back you can actually make consistent money online and if I need to build a whole site with tons of articles before I can get people to sign up for a free offer then that is going to take a lot longer and will obviously have to do more research to make sure I dont spend 3 months building a site that fails... again

Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author kursat
    That indeed is enough to get started. Make sure your free report is related to your offers and that people find value in what you are offering. An authority site takes a long time to build but does not guarantee good results - so a powerful squeeze page is a better way to start - My thoughts...
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  • Profile picture of the author Tommyg123
    Thank you Kursat.

    I just want to see the process work. Even if the site makes me $10 a day after advertising fees i'd take that right now. Just to get started.

    If I see the process works then thats all I need to get a rocket up my ass and produce 30, 30, 40 sites using that formula.

    Work ethic and a bit of capital I have. But confidence in any particular approach I seem to be losing by the day
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  • Profile picture of the author littledan
    Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

    Hey,

    Is this enough for a sales funnel?

    1/ Find a product you want to promote
    2/ Build a squeeze page to get people to sign up for a FREE ebook/email course/video etc with targeted PPC
    3/ Build a list with said squeeze page offer
    4/ Email useful information to list with affiliate offers in the text

    Or do you need to build a whole authority site/blog etc around the squeeze page?

    I just want to see a bit of income trickling in so I can get my confidence back you can actually make consistent money online and if I need to build a whole site with tons of articles before I can get people to sign up for a free offer then that is going to take a lot longer and will obviously have to do more research to make sure I dont spend 3 months building a site that fails... again

    Thanks
    Unfortunately, sometimes you need to spend a few months just to find out what doesn't work. This is just as important as finding out what does work. You can only tweak and improve things by succeeding and failing along your journey. So don't hold back from trying something based on it may not work as you had hoped.

    I have had easily more failures in number over the past 10 years than I have had successes. But if I had held back and not tried in the first place those successes would probably never have occurred
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  • Profile picture of the author Tommyg123
    Just doing some numbers here regarding PPC

    If I am aiming for 1000 people on my list.

    Assume I have 30% of people sign up for my FREE offer I will have to pay for 3000 clicks to get those 1000 people.
    Assume an average of $0.5 per click it will cost me $1500 to get those 1000 people.

    If I then have 5% of people from my list go on to buy my offer and I made $25 off each sale

    5% of 1000 is 50. So 50 people bought a product I made $25 off thats a turnover of $1250

    I'm $250 in the hole... and my numbers were pretty optimistic

    Am I missing something?
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    • Profile picture of the author kursat
      Paying for clicks are always going to be a risk. Why don't you start promoting your offer via twitter, facebook, forums etc until you get a good number.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

      If I am aiming for 1000 people on my list.

      Assume I have 30% of people sign up for my FREE offer I will have to pay for 3000 clicks to get those 1000 people.
      Assume an average of $0.5 per click it will cost me $1500 to get those 1000 people.

      If I then have 5% of people from my list go on to buy my offer and I made $25 off each sale

      5% of 1000 is 50. So 50 people bought a product I made $25 off thats a turnover of $1250

      I'm $250 in the hole... and my numbers were pretty optimistic

      Am I missing something?
      Yes, I think so, Tom.

      1. You need to work out the long-term value of a subscriber, to decide whether or not it's profitable, not try to assess that from a one-off promotion of something. Taking your theoretical figures above, many affiliate marketers would be very happy indeed with spending $1,500 for 1,000 subscribers, on the basis of their list being "worth about $1 per month per subscriber". This figure's the one traditionally quoted, in such contexts: I think it's fictional, myself, but it will do as a "silly example", just for the purposes of this conversation, because it illustrates the underlying point. If you look just at "immediate returns", it's very unlikely indeed that you'll find anything profitable, by using PPC. This just isn't how it works. (If it were, the vendor of whatever you're promoting would probably just be doing that himself, wouldn't he, rather than paying you an up-to-75% commission just for providing the targeted traffic? ). Be aware that in successful affiliate marketing, most of the long-term income comes from making repeated sales of different items to subscribers who increasingly trust you as they buy more, because your recommendations never let them down.

      2. PPC is typically a huge learning-curve, in and of itself, and starting off in affiliate marketing by using that as your primary traffic-generation method may be something of a tall order. Speaking for myself, though I've used PPC successfully at times, I'd know I'd never have been able to master that skill-set and email marketing at the same time.

      3. You should be aiming for a much higher subscriber-to-customer conversion-rate than 5%. What matters is increasing that figure, not the number of subscribers (which is scalable, anyway). For me, it might not even be worth doing the list-building and email marketing as I do it if I could sell to only 5% of the subscribers.

      4. One of the factors (there are many!) which - in reality - determines what proportion of the subscribers buy anything is "the type of page through which you opt them in" (not because that process itself "changes them", of course, but because different people opt in to different types of opt-in pages!), and it's likely that a squeeze page will opt in a higher proportion of the visitors but that the list built that way may be less profitable than a different, smaller list built from the same traffic opted in by a different method: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7939758

      5. I hear you about wanting the confidence-booster of seeing some money coming in relatively quickly, even if it's smallish amounts. My potential concern is that the type of affiliate marketing method we're discussing here, brilliant though it may be in the long run for building a genuine, asset-based, secure, growing income, may be less than ideal, when judged from that perspective: when I started doing something very similar to what you describe above, it was nearly 4 months before I earned anything from it (and I wasn't even paying for traffic).


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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

        Just doing some numbers here regarding PPC

        If I am aiming for 1000 people on my list.

        Assume I have 30% of people sign up for my FREE offer I will have to pay for 3000 clicks to get those 1000 people.
        Assume an average of $0.5 per click it will cost me $1500 to get those 1000 people.

        If I then have 5% of people from my list go on to buy my offer and I made $25 off each sale

        5% of 1000 is 50. So 50 people bought a product I made $25 off thats a turnover of $1250

        I'm $250 in the hole... and my numbers were pretty optimistic

        Am I missing something?
        Yes.

        Beyond what Alexa said above, you're missing the idea of constantly improving your numbers.

        In the scenario you laid out, you are close to breakeven on the initial sale. I'd be encouraged.

        Look at it this way. Improve that 5% sales conversion a measly 1%, up to 6%, and you are at breakeven.

        Or you could lower your CPC from $.50 to $.40 - same result.

        Do both, and you're in profit.

        Up your opt-in rate by improving your ad targeting and traffic sources from 30% to ~40% and you break even.

        Do all three, or some combination, and you're in profit. Even without making additional sales to your list members.

        PPC is not for the faint of heart, or shallow of pocket, but once you have the numbers right, it's as close to a license to print money as you are likely to get.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rory Singh
      Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

      Just doing some numbers here regarding PPC

      If I am aiming for 1000 people on my list.

      Assume I have 30% of people sign up for my FREE offer I will have to pay for 3000 clicks to get those 1000 people.
      Assume an average of $0.5 per click it will cost me $1500 to get those 1000 people.

      If I then have 5% of people from my list go on to buy my offer and I made $25 off each sale

      5% of 1000 is 50. So 50 people bought a product I made $25 off thats a turnover of $1250

      I'm $250 in the hole... and my numbers were pretty optimistic

      Am I missing something?
      This assumption is that 30% of your traffic will convert into leads. An average half decent lead capture page usually converts at 10% to 15%.

      Yes you will be in the hole (and most likely have less leads than you wanted) so what you need is a couple of 'back end' products to sell.

      These extra sales will allow you to make more profit and actually put money not only in your hands but back into another marketing budget (to reinvest).

      If you sold something that had 'reoccurring' commissions, that would definitely help your situation a lot too!
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    • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
      Hey Tommy,

      It's easier to plan if you get the math right in the process...

      Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

      Assume an average of $0.5 per click it will cost me $1500 to get those 1000 people.
      Your spend for the 1000 opt ins would be $150 NOT $1500 (3000 x $.05 = $150).
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      • Profile picture of the author Tommyg123
        Originally Posted by Sid Hale View Post

        Hey Tommy,

        It's easier to plan if you get the math right in the process...



        Your spend for the 1000 opt ins would be $150 NOT $1500 (3000 x $.05 = $150).
        Yes but $0.05 is 5 cents per click. I am paying 50 cents per click.

        3000 x $0.5 is $1500
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  • Profile picture of the author Tommyg123
    That does seem to make more sense having looked at those PPC numbers. They don't look too hot!

    Are there any good threads on here with good plans/methodologies laid out for twitter, FB etc. All my research has been done on PPC thus far
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  • Profile picture of the author kursat
    Here is a tip - find a common problem today that new beginners would like an answer to. Start a thread solving that problem in detail - offer value... Then have your signature set up with your free offer to get a visual display. That is a good start.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamescanz
    Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

    Is this enough for a sales funnel?

    1/ Find a product you want to promote
    2/ Build a squeeze page to get people to sign up for a FREE ebook/email course/video etc with targeted PPC
    3/ Build a list with said squeeze page offer
    4/ Email useful information to list with affiliate offers in the text
    Yes, and if you wanted to...

    You could simplify it even more to your liking.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tommyg123
    Thanks again, but I am not in the IM niche and forum posting doesnt seem a particularly long term solution once you have lots of offers on the go. In fact a lot of forums I know outside the IM niche don't even allow you to do that.

    I'm guessing SEO wouldnt work for a Squeeze Page either? As it is essentially just an advert
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  • Profile picture of the author kursat
    Then may be your solution is Facebook Ads? They are a bit more cheaper than PPC ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jacob Pionke
    Funnel looks good and its something I have been using for the last year with great results.

    I am involved a lot with the IM/MMO markets however I do also promote health related products mainly on youtube with the exact same funnel.

    After they watch a video, i send them to a link that i have in the description which usually is a squeeze page with a free gift and once i have them on my list, after 2-3 days my auto-responder sequence will send them an affiliate offer based on the free gift they opted-in for.

    I hope it helps, again you mentioned above that its PPC you were looking at and unfortunately i have not done enough to be going around teaching folk, but maybe you should look into SEO which again works great with a funnel you mentioned above.

    Jacob
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  • Profile picture of the author Tommyg123
    Thanks for the insight Jacob.

    Having crunched the numbers the PPC seems like a tough place to start. It would require very high opt in rates unless you are making $100's off each sale.

    You mentioned SEO, would that be to a large blog site or could you get your squeeze page ranked?

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Jacob Pionke
      Exactly PPC is a numbers game, which when you know what you are doing can be very rewarding but again you need to learn it first.

      I don't think now a days you would be able to rank a one-page (referring to the squeeze page) website, it would have to be an authority blog which could take agesss to rank, again i can't speak as i have never ranked a website before.

      I once again tend to go with the video option as one: its easier to rank in my opinion and two: i think video converts better.

      But again non of the above are proven facts, they just seem to work for me.

      Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

      Thanks for the insight Jacob.

      Having crunched the numbers the PPC seems like a tough place to start. It would require very high opt in rates unless you are making $100's off each sale.

      You mentioned SEO, would that be to a large blog site or could you get your squeeze page ranked?

      Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

    Or do you need to build a whole authority site/blog etc around the squeeze page?

    I just want to see a bit of income trickling in so I can get my confidence back you can actually make consistent money online and if I need to build a whole site with tons of articles before I can get people to sign up for a free offer then that is going to take a lot longer and will obviously have to do more research to make sure I dont spend 3 months building a site that fails... again

    Thanks

    Hey Tommy ,
    I know there are a lot of really successful Imers who do you have an Authority Site that acts as a feeder into their email funnel

    I also know there are a lot of really successful IMers who tdo NOT have an Authority site that acts a feeder into their email funnel.

    It's just your prerogative. I have separate CPA and Addsense blogs from my Email Marketing biz.

    But I have zero blogs related to my email marketing biz.

    I do not want to fool with it. Am I leaving money on the table ? Probably.

    But like I said my prerogatives are different than some people's.

    But bottom line is you do not need an Authority site to be successful, that's for sure


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  • Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

    Hey,

    Is this enough for a sales funnel?

    1/ Find a product you want to promote
    2/ Build a squeeze page to get people to sign up for a FREE ebook/email course/video etc with targeted PPC
    3/ Build a list with said squeeze page offer
    4/ Email useful information to list with affiliate offers in the text

    Or do you need to build a whole authority site/blog etc around the squeeze page?
    Building an authority blog/site will take you a few months to start ranking and bringing home massive revenue, or at least enough to produce an ROI.

    If you're comfortable waiting on the search engines to give you some rank power then go ahead and build out an authority blog and get started with that.

    However it sounds like you need to see some results now, which is good. I recommend that you follow exactly what you have in mind to do and focus on building your email list. Once you get more subscribers on your list, proceed to build a relationship with that list where you establish yourself as an authority figure in their minds.

    Establishing yourself as an authority and building a relationship is not hard to do. Tell them a little about who you are, and give them something they can use to improve their business and make their life easier.

    Also if you can I recommend that you check out Ben Settle's promotional story based emails. You'll see that he makes himself an authority, while building a relationship, and also promoting his or affiliate products at the same time.

    Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author Tommyg123
    5. I hear you about wanting the confidence-booster of seeing some money coming in relatively quickly, even if it's smallish amounts. My potential concern is that the type of affiliate marketing method we're discussing here, brilliant though it may be in the long run for building a genuine, asset-based, secure, growing income, may be less than ideal, when judged from that perspective: when I started doing something very similar to what you describe above, it was nearly 4 months before I earned anything from it (and I wasn't even paying for traffic).
    Thanks Alexa, is there somewhere else you suggest I start?

    CPA perhaps?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

      Thanks Alexa, is there somewhere else you suggest I start?

      CPA perhaps?
      Yes, it's one of the things that springs to mind as offering potential for faster, perhaps lower levels of income. But I know almost nothing about it, and wouldn't dream of advising anyone about it, other than by saying "look here".

      Providing a service, if you have (or can quickly develop) a marketable skill also comes into that category of income?


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  • Profile picture of the author Alexander Swift
    That's enough. An authority site is totally optional but I think you should focus everything on building your list first... Then when you're having quite a nice amount of subscribers you should then think about building a site
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  • Profile picture of the author Tommyg123
    That's enough. An authority site is totally optional but I think you should focus everything on building your list first... Then when you're having quite a nice amount of subscribers you should then think about building a site
    Thanks Alexander,

    How would you introduce a second offer to your list? It seems you need to constantly be talking to your list to keep it alive. You couldn't set an auto responder to deliver 7 emails then a promo (as a rough formula) and be done with it? Could you wait find another offer a few months later and just start promoting another offer to the same list?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexander Swift
      Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

      Thanks Alexander,

      How would you introduce a second offer to your list? It seems you need to constantly be talking to your list to keep it alive. You couldn't set an auto responder to deliver 7 emails then a promo (as a rough formula) and be done with it? Could you wait find another offer a few months later and just start promoting another offer to the same list?
      Certainly yes. If it were me I'd subtly promote EVERY time in my emails! That's how I do it - after all you're a seller. And a seller sells - it's simple. I always provide value to my list but I never miss an opportunity to promote to them... In my opinion you can promote up to 3 products with that 7 day schedule for each, but after that if they didn't buy anything then.... do ad-swap and get some fresh leads!
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  • Profile picture of the author jfalxr
    Based on what I read, your funnels and promotion strategy looks good..

    What I can recommend is, sell your own stuff first to build your buyers list with One-Time-Offers (OTO) that your subscribers will see right after they subscribed to you. You can offer a low price item, price range between $1-$5 to build it faster.

    To those who didn't buy at the first time, set-up your autoresponder promoting your OTO for 5-7 days with some additional tips and provides value.. If you have a good offers, most of the time they will finally buy it..

    You will find a better results promoting some affiliate products to your buyers list. Need a little more work, but it definitely will really worth your time and efforts

    Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

    Hey,

    Is this enough for a sales funnel?

    1/ Find a product you want to promote
    2/ Build a squeeze page to get people to sign up for a FREE ebook/email course/video etc with targeted PPC
    3/ Build a list with said squeeze page offer
    4/ Email useful information to list with affiliate offers in the text

    Or do you need to build a whole authority site/blog etc around the squeeze page?

    I just want to see a bit of income trickling in so I can get my confidence back you can actually make consistent money online and if I need to build a whole site with tons of articles before I can get people to sign up for a free offer then that is going to take a lot longer and will obviously have to do more research to make sure I dont spend 3 months building a site that fails... again

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

    Is this enough for a sales funnel?
    Yeah this is a good start. But don't get caught up in 1 product to sell. Get caught up in 5 or more productS to sell. Backend marketing is what it's all about. Getting a lead and getting them to buy the 1st time is just the opening step. You don't have to build an authority site right off the bat. If it evolves into that, then fine. As far as getting sales in *quickly*... test price and your offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author mazzuca
    If you want to make crazy squeeze pages or opt-in pages that are inter gradable with Aweber and Getresponse try out LeadPagesâ„¢ software - mobile responsive landing page generator *Not an affiliate link*
    I use this site to create all my squeeze pages its AWESOME!
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  • Profile picture of the author blillard
    A few tips that will help increase your opt-in rates Tommy that has helped to give me conversions ranging from 40%-60%:

    1. Make use of effective headline, you want to let your visitors know exactly what there receiving. I like to add the main benefit here.

    2. Keep your squeeze pages simple. You don't want to distract your visitors by having too much going on with your capture page. I like to use just PLAIN white backgrounds, although some like to use image backgrounds. I prefer to keep thing simple K-I-S-S

    3. You want to keep everything above the fold. You''l lose a lot of potential subscribers by having an opt-in box they can't see right away. Make things as easy as possible for them to give you their email address.

    Follow these guidelines every time I build a squeeze pages and I see no less than 40% conversions on my traffic.

    As far as your lead magnet goes, try to create one that is geared towards your chosen niche. So if the product you planned to promote was in list building then create short report in that niche. You want to keep your funnel congruent from beginning to end.

    Your follow up should also talk about your chosen niche. Each email leading them to purchase the affiliate product that you're promoting; you can do this by mixing content with promo emails.

    Bryan Lillard
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  • Profile picture of the author Tommyg123
    Thanks Billard. Thats good actionable advice!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
    Heya Tommy

    This is what I've been doing with my coaching students, it's what I do myself and it works quite well.
    1. Come up with a KICK ASS unique offer and give it away for free. 2000-3000 words is usually good. If you don't want to or know how to write it yourself, you can outsource it easily via iwriter.com (just use a 4.5 writer, should cost you $30-$40 or so)
    2. Once people opt-in to your free report, re-direct them to a related AFFILIATE OFFER. Believe it or not, MANY will buy this upon seeing it the first time.
    3. Once they're opted in, the first EMAIL they receive should be a 'here's your free report' email. It should thank them, and send them a link to a thank you page where they can download your free offer, and of course see a banner again for that product you recommended before.
    If you want to do paid traffic, SOLO ADS are great. I've been using www.clickonomy.com for solos lately, and been having GREAT results. It's run by IMer Anik Singal, and is definitely safe and trustworthy.

    If you want an example of one of my THANK YOU pages

    You can view one here: Thank You (note, you do NOT have to opt in to view this, this is a direct link to my TYP)

    Feel free to use that as guidance if it helps.

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  • Profile picture of the author Tommyg123
    Hey Jeff

    Thanks so much for that post. Its proper advice. With real step by step process. Thats what every newbie is looking for at the end of the day.

    One other question if I may. Once you send the thank you email with a link to an aff offer. How often do you send emails out to your list? And if you do regularly email them what sort of things do you send?

    Thanks man
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
      Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

      Hey Jeff

      Thanks so much for that post. Its proper advice. With real step by step process. Thats what every newbie is looking for at the end of the day.

      One other question if I may. Once you send the thank you email with a link to an aff offer. How often do you send emails out to your list? And if you do regularly email them what sort of things do you send?

      Thanks man
      Not a problem man.

      Usually my first email is the thank you page
      My second email is a 'hello' with a reminder to download my free report
      My THIRD email will usually be a relevant or motivional video I found on youtube. This works in any niche.
      My FOURTH email will usually be my first promotion

      After that, I email daily a mix of promotions, good content emails, relevant videos etc

      The trick is to NOT make every email you're sending out a promotion, but offer good content and value to your list.

      Hope this answers your question!

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  • Profile picture of the author Tommyg123
    Thanks again Jeff. Wow, daily emails, that must be pretty hard to stay on top of!
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
      Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

      Thanks again Jeff. Wow, daily emails, that must be pretty hard to stay on top of!
      Eh, not really. Just set up an AR series of about 2 weeks total

      Your open rate will naturally go DOWN as people progress through your AR (auto responder) series.

      Just keep adding NEW leads to your list as well, and you'll be fine
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    Wow, daily emails, that must be pretty hard to stay on top of!
    That's what your AR is for. You can schedule as many followups as you want and they are sent out automatically.
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  • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
    Having a sales funnel is great - and the process you outline in your post is a good one, EXCEPT...

    1) You still need to drive relevant, targeted traffic. That can be done through an authority site/content, through advertising, through partners/jv if you have a decent back-end and conversion, etc... Just because you have a sales funnel doesn't mean people will flock to it. In my case, I typically always create content driven to my sales funnels, sometimes leverage partners and at times paid advertising once I know my conversion numbers

    2) Second, many people fail at #4 - it's not just "useful" information you want to mail them it is information with a purpose and that purpose needs to be to "warm" them to one or more back-end offers. If you look at the very profitable, high-income earning online entrepreneurs they have a purpose for every email that goes out in a sales funnel - it's not just random useful information. One email may be to establish trust/credibility, another empathy, another proof, another convince them you have an answer they may not have seen before to a pressing problem, etc... Your follow up email sequence is the MOST important part of your sales funnel - without it, you are simply building an unresponsive list.

    Jeff
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  • Profile picture of the author pilot47
    shouldn't this all depend on your goals and resources
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  • Profile picture of the author Jacob Caris
    If you are considering pumping money in solo ads, I would try adding an upsell to the funnel to try re-coup some advertising costs up front.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi people,

    How often should I send emails with content and an affiliate link to the offer?
    Should I put an affiliate link in every email?

    Or is it better;

    send not more than one email each week?


    How many words should my email have? 500, 300, 800 words....???

    Should I send them direct to the verdor sales page or to my website first, where I have an review over the affiliate product?

    How often I should rotte my affiliate offers? After 2 months, after 3 months???
    Example; 1 affiliate product, should I promote it 3 months in my emails , so that I make money every month over a period of 3 months? Or should I promote every month a new affiliate product ?


    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      How often should I send emails with content and an affiliate link to the offer?
      There's no objective "right answer" to this question.

      It's discussed at some length here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5300985

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Should I put an affiliate link in every email?
      No, absolutely not, IMO.

      For myself, I send email on days 1, 3, 6, 10 and 15 and thereafter at 5 day intervals, with a product recommendation occupying the last third/half of about one email in three.

      I make less money, if I try to do it more than that.

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      How many words should my email have? 500, 300, 800 words....???
      It depends on your subscribers' demographics and expectations.

      You need to set your subscriber expectations appropriately. You should use the "free report" (but not only that!) to do so.

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Should I send them direct to the verdor sales page or to my website first
      Not to a sales page, in my opinion - definitely not.

      I used to do that, and it cost me a lot of money.

      I suspect there's quite a bit of misguided thinking about, on this subject.

      It's worth bearing in mind that it's possible to make the occasional quick sale that way and still lose a lot of money overall.

      Here's the key concept: the few people who will buy anything, that way, are all people who would have bought it in a week's time anyway, after receiving some email from you, so there's no real gain. But many other people, who would otherwise have bought it a week or two later, will be alienated by it, because of course it makes you look like "just another marketer", so if I did that, I'd expect a much lower open-rate for my emails than I actually get.

      Right after the opt-in, I promote nothing. For me, it would be a big mistake to do that.

      As people who have split-tested it themselves tend to have discovered (and we tend to be the ones who quickly abandon the idea, once we've thoroughly tested it for ourselves. )

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      How often I should rotte my affiliate offers? After 2 months, after 3 months??? Example; 1 affiliate product, should I promote it 3 months in my emails , so that I make money every month over a period of 3 months? Or should I promote every month a new affiliate product ?
      It depends on many factors, Marco. There's no simple answer.

      I think 3 months is too long, for one product, when you have others to offer.

      Many of your questions, and closely related questions, are considered in this thread, which will probably help you: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6123982

      Email marketing is rather a big learning-curve. Don't expect it just to be "some quick questions with objective, right answers" and then taking action. There's very much more to it than that. Just trying to sound a cautionary note, for you, because people who "jump in quickly" tend to be the ones who end up trying to convince themselves that "an open-rate of 20% is acceptable". Don't become one of those people!

      http://www.warriorforum.com/email-ma...ml#post8661178


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      • Profile picture of the author mlpauling
        Yes that is a basic funnel, but if you want quick cash you need to monetize your funnel a little better. I would suggest you:

        1) find three PPL offers that pay weekly
        2) write a report called something like 3 Quick Cash Tricks and
        write a couple of paragraph about each offer plus a call to action
        3) Then write 3 - 5 follow up emails encouraging your subscribers
        to take action on these "Quick Cash Tips"

        If you have picked PPLs that pay $1 - $2.50 you can easily be earning $3 - $7.50
        per subscriber. And they don't even have to buy anything!

        Take action and make some "Quick Cash"
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  • Make sure you split test. It takes awhile to get a feel for what works where. If you don't have results to compare then you're really going to have a hard time figuring out what will work. Provide lots of value and bonuses. Also make sure you test your ad campaigns before you scale them up. You want to get a high CTR.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    Alexa, great, wow! What can I say......

    I have a little bit to read and learn from your link tips.

    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author gcbmark20
    Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

    Hey,

    Is this enough for a sales funnel?

    1/ Find a product you want to promote
    2/ Build a squeeze page to get people to sign up for a FREE ebook/email course/video etc with targeted PPC
    3/ Build a list with said squeeze page offer
    4/ Email useful information to list with affiliate offers in the text

    Or do you need to build a whole authority site/blog etc around the squeeze page?

    I just want to see a bit of income trickling in so I can get my confidence back you can actually make consistent money online and if I need to build a whole site with tons of articles before I can get people to sign up for a free offer then that is going to take a lot longer and will obviously have to do more research to make sure I dont spend 3 months building a site that fails... again

    Thanks


    Hi,

    YES this is a start but.....

    .....BE prepared to FAIL.

    And be glad about it

    WHY?

    Well you can talk about OTO's, Fancy Squeeze Pages, Up-sells, down-sells,
    cross sells etc till the rivers run dry.

    BUT......You need to understand that all this comes to down to one thing:

    MATHS!

    Yes NUMBERS.

    You see you won't know what your numbers are until YOU TEST
    your first set up.

    So that is why you need to be prepared to be at a LOSS at the beginning
    of your testing.

    Then after a few weeks of testing you'll see patterns begin to emerge in
    the shape of NUMBERS!!!

    These numbers will tell you exactly where your campaign is going right
    and wrong.

    Where your strong points and WEAK points are etc.

    NO ONE ever seems to mention that it is the NUMBERS that never LIE!

    Sorry to seem a bit strong here but until you track and TEST and at least
    have something to SELL so you can at least start making your first incomes
    then you'll be clicking from one post to the next trying to find the next best
    squeeze page plugin that can do everything for you.

    I recommend Lead Pages and OP2.0 to some of my clients.

    NOT because they are going to make them a bucket load cash overnight.

    But because they are TIME savers.

    And these can get them onto the ROAD of tracking and testing their first campaigns FAST so that they can get in the game instead of standing on the sidelines.

    You've gotta get your feet wet first and be prepared to take a few HITS.

    Hope that preps ya and good luck.

    Gavin
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  • Profile picture of the author brutecky
    Originally Posted by Tommyg123 View Post

    1/ Find a product you want to promote
    2/ Build a squeeze page to get people to sign up for a FREE ebook/email course/video etc with targeted PPC
    3/ Build a list with said squeeze page offer
    4/ Email useful information to list with affiliate offers in the text
    No way! Thats no good.
    Where are YOUR offers, for people to buy your products. In what you have listed your a) not converting the freebie list to buyers and b) trying to give your list right away to other marketers (via affiliate offers) for only 1/2 of the sales price or so. Your going to have a lot of trouble with that.

    1) SqueezePage, freebie offer
    2) Low ticket product of your own ($7 or so), this converts freebie people into buyers, give TONS of value here.
    3) Mid ticket product of your own ($27 or so). Moving them down the funnel!
    4) Continue... with other offers of yours
    5) Eventually promote affiliate products, to build up JV relationships, but for the love of {insert politically correct name for deity here} dont send them 'useful information with text links to affiliate offers in it'
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  • Profile picture of the author Russell Shor
    Sounds good.

    the only thing I'd add is obviously promotion of the link magnet on social media
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  • Profile picture of the author User-Name
    Sounds great except this line
    1/ Find a product you want to promote

    Tommyg123
    Find a product that people will buy
    Provide value by sending information that will help the surfer achieve their goal/s
    Then it would be important that you understand this product of course liking the niche would help

    Move away from always be selling to always be providing value

    For seo purposes you need to build a wordpress blog (because of the way it can be set up to syndicate content) and link to your squeeze page
    Andrew
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  • Profile picture of the author axel40
    So you mean, in e-mail marketing, clicking an ad going to a squeeze page with a freebie and and a short intelligent headline/description is converting better than landing on a website page, authority or not, with much more text about something of value and ending with a lead magnet with same headline for a freebie as the aforementioned squeeze page, BUT with the added and much broadened value in so far as I can choose to look around on the website and read about other reviews and maybe choose another freebie on a lead magnet opt-in form, on something that maybe fits my interests and needs better than the first one.
    Sorry, I do not get the dots together here, a website with so much more options than just a squeeze page and yet the latter is much better converting than the first( as i understand most of you agree upon..). Do you really mean that people so much more will just bounce away from my website comparing with my squeeze page ? Really?

    I am not an experienced internet marketer but actually will start my first campaign any day and this question bother me just now and I cannot figure out..
    What am i missing here ? I am very very curious to hear your opinions !
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