What should an Affiliate website look like?

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Hi, I am over 2 weeks into affiliate marketing and my current merchant hasn't been working out. My niche is supplements and nutrition.
I decided to apply for the bodybuilding.com affiliate program and got rejected.
They said my site does not contain content that is of value to the customers.
I guess my question is - Am I suppose to be promoting them? even though I have yet to be accepted. I know they are a top seller and it seem's they have high standards to get into their program.
Any help is appreciated.
I can give you my website also to critic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
    Can you provide a link to your site?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Hoang
    livewellbyhealth (dot) com
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  • Profile picture of the author Knightsofusa
    Seem solid but my suggestion is that you get rid of your personal linkedin and twitter account. Also for gmail, you should use the site name.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michael Shook
      Its more than likely you got turned down because all you really have is a shadow site from e-vitamins, adsense in your header which is not something an affiliate marketing company is going to appreciate. And you've got whatever it is on the bottom for Getresponse.

      You probably need a content site to get approved by a company as big as body builder.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Hoang
    Alright guys. I have since removed them.
    I will focus on content, content content. I was hoping my blog would be enough.
    thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Lawless
    Also I know this might sound like a stupid question (but you'd be surprised how many people overlook it), but have you looked at the bodybuilding.com affiliate program T&C. Often they will have the requirements listed on there of what they expect from their affiliates.

    I would also recommend starting a profile on bodybuilding.com (if you haven't already) and promoting your site's articles to those members - in a conversational way.

    Good luck
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr Hoang
      Originally Posted by Nick Lawless View Post

      Also I know this might sound like a stupid question (but you'd be surprised how many people overlook it), but have you looked at the bodybuilding.com affiliate program T&C. Often they will have the requirements listed on there of what they expect from their affiliates.

      I would also recommend starting a profile on bodybuilding.com (if you haven't already) and promoting your site's articles to those members - in a conversational way.

      Good luck
      Yes I read the T & c but it's mostly just about rules and boy are there a lot.
      This is the email I got from them.

      "When reviewing a web site, we look for a beneficial reason as to why a customer would seek out your site, review the topic or content posted, and click over to Bodybuilding.com. We want an Affiliate site to be one that adds value to the customer experience by giving them insight on a subject or product they might not get by going straight to Bodybuilding.com. A web site needs to show content that exemplifies these components when we evaluate your application." We have decided that your site does not yet qualify for acceptance into our program as it either does not present a mutually beneficial business opportunity.
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  • Profile picture of the author SunnyDelight
    You might be able to find some PLR in your niche that you can rebrand and spice up with your own style and provide the information in the forms of articles... ect.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr Hoang
      Originally Posted by SunnyDelight View Post

      You might be able to find some PLR in your niche that you can rebrand and spice up with your own style and provide the information in the forms of articles... ect.
      What's PLR?
      Do you mean like doing a blog on some of the products?
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  • Profile picture of the author drem
    PLR is Private Label Rights. Basically, you're buying the rights to use the content on your site however you want. You can edit it or re-brand it - whatever you want to do. PLR articles are usually cheap, but if you don't edit them, you'll have an issue with duplicate content.

    It looks like you have a good foundation with your site. I think the problem might be that BodyBuilding is a huge name in the fitness industry, so they're looking for affiliates who already have a well-established site with a good following. I think if you keep adding useful content and start generating a larger following, you won't have a problem being accepted in the future.

    I would also recommend adding photos or videos to your posts.There are lots of free stock photo places out there!

    Best of luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author onSubie
    You would do really well to add some images and graphics to your site. It looks very plain.

    Also you said you removed GetResponse?

    You should be building a list in this niche, especially if you want to make money with affiliate marketing.

    Look at something like Mark's Daily Apple to see an example of an awesome fitness affiliate site.

    He emails his list every day and they love it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rory Singh
    You could also start a brand new site and start promoting it right. This is all part of the learning curve. Your site is a little too plain. Next time spice it up a little to make feel more attractive.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr Hoang
      Originally Posted by drem View Post

      PLR is Private Label Rights. Basically, you're buying the rights to use the content on your site however you want. You can edit it or re-brand it - whatever you want to do. PLR articles are usually cheap, but if you don't edit them, you'll have an issue with duplicate content.

      It looks like you have a good foundation with your site. I think the problem might be that BodyBuilding is a huge name in the fitness industry, so they're looking for affiliates who already have a well-established site with a good following. I think if you keep adding useful content and start generating a larger following, you won't have a problem being accepted in the future.

      I would also recommend adding photos or videos to your posts.There are lots of free stock photo places out there!

      Best of luck!
      thank you. this is interesting, I'll look in to that.
      And maybe I'll try and get into a different program other than bodybuilding.

      Originally Posted by onSubie View Post

      You would do really well to add some images and graphics to your site. It looks very plain.

      Also you said you removed GetResponse?

      You should be building a list in this niche, especially if you want to make money with affiliate marketing.

      Look at something like Mark's Daily Apple to see an example of an awesome fitness affiliate site.

      He emails his list every day and they love it.
      Yeah I'm using get response for something else I'm marketing.
      I checked our Mark's Daily Apple. It looks great. A ton of content and it gave me ideas. I've already implemented a sign up for for my blog.

      Originally Posted by Rory Singh View Post

      You could also start a brand new site and start promoting it right. This is all part of the learning curve. Your site is a little too plain. Next time spice it up a little to make feel more attractive.
      Yeah this is what I have decided. I took down everything from evitamins and am starting fresh. Honestly I didn't add new content because Evitamins wasn't cooperating very well with me. It was hard to track my progress with them. I kinda did everything on the go but now I know I need to put in a little more work first.

      thanks guys, I've got a a lot of work to do.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by Taniwha View Post

      OP, have a look at: Best Nootropic Supplement Reviews - Nootriment to get some ideas.
      Way too screamy, like shouting out loud

      HEY I AM AN AFFILIATE AND MOST LIKELY ALL MY REVIEWS ARE FAKE

      You need something clean, something basic, that provides instant trust.

      Test it for yourself and you'll see that the time on site is terrible with the theme Taniwha mentioned.

      I found there are very few free and even paid themes that out of the box result in long time on site, it's not just about what you write, appearance is much more important. Yep last two weeks I've been testing a dozen themes and the cleaner the theme the longer the people stay on site, but it must look good, small details make the difference.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mr Hoang
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Way too screamy, like shouting out loud

        HEY I AM AN AFFILIATE AND MOST LIKELY ALL MY REVIEWS ARE FAKE

        You need something clean, something basic, that provides instant trust.

        Test it for yourself and you'll see that the time on site is terrible with the theme Taniwha mentioned.

        I found there are very few free and even paid themes that out of the box result in long time on site, it's not just about what you write, appearance is much more important. Yep last two weeks I've been testing a dozen themes and the cleaner the theme the longer the people stay on site, but it must look good, small details make the difference.
        I agree there's way too much content on that website. It seems so easy to get lost in all that. Tough to navigate your way around. I feel that most people don't want to read too much. And that my job as an affiliate is to redirect a customer to the merchant as quickly as possible.
        Right now I'm looking to add visuals but still not sure what kind.
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  • Profile picture of the author wfletch24
    The good news is they said your site "does not YET qualify". So with a little hard work and some time there is a good chance they could accept you in the future.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr Hoang
      Originally Posted by wfletch24 View Post

      The good news is they said your site "does not YET qualify". So with a little hard work and some time there is a good chance they could accept you in the future.
      haha I thought that was note worthy too.
      But I'm looking into this PLR rights. It's really cheap to purchase the articles but do they really need to be edited to avoid trouble?
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Mr Hoang View Post

        But I'm looking into this PLR rights. It's really cheap to purchase the articles but do they really need to be edited to avoid trouble?
        It depends on the terms of sale under which you buy them (these vary a lot), on what you're using them for, and on what you classify as "trouble".

        Be aware, though, that publishing articles just on your own site isn't really a traffic-generation plan: the only traffic that's ever going to bring you is a little bit of gradual, eventual search-engine traffic (surely not what you want/need?).


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        • Profile picture of the author Mr Hoang
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          It depends on the terms of sale under which you buy them (these vary a lot), on what you're using them for, and on what you classify as "trouble".

          Be aware, though, that publishing articles just on your own site isn't really a traffic-generation plan: the only traffic that's ever going to bring you is a little bit of gradual, eventual search-engine traffic (surely not what you want/need?).


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          Yeah that's understandable I only intended to use the articles as content, as I have other traffic generating things like google adwords.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by Mr Hoang View Post

            I have other traffic generating things like google adwords.
            Just a thought, but now you mention it, Google AdWords is also search-engine traffic, isn't it? (Well, I suppose there's the content network too, as well as the search-engine ads ... ).


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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              What an incredible ugly site.

              Use at the very least a decent theme.
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            • Profile picture of the author Mr Hoang
              Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

              Just a thought, but now you mention it, Google AdWords is also search-engine traffic, isn't it? (Well, I suppose there's the content network too, as well as the search-engine ads ... ).


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              Yes it's search engine traffic. The same concept as facebook ads.
              How does content network working? Are the articles and blog posts on my website automatically indexed and end up in search engines?
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              • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                Originally Posted by Mr Hoang View Post

                Yes it's search engine traffic. The same concept as facebook ads.
                How are Facebook ads the same concept as search-engine traffic?

                Originally Posted by Mr Hoang View Post

                How does content network working?
                Content marketing works like this.

                Originally Posted by Mr Hoang View Post

                Are the articles and blog posts on my website automatically indexed and end up in search engines?
                They are, just like anything on anyone's website, but that has nothing to do with how "article marketing" or "content marketing" works.

                As I was explaining above, publishing articles just on your own site isn't really a traffic-generation plan: the only traffic that's ever going to bring you is a little bit of gradual, eventual search-engine traffic (and that's surely not what you want/need?)

                Unless your sites are somehow very different from all of mine, visitors coming to your sites from a search-engine are not worth much to you, in the overall scheme of things?

                This may help you: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post8659398

                Originally Posted by Mr Hoang View Post

                my job as an affiliate is to redirect a customer to the merchant as quickly as possible.
                Wow ...

                Just "wow".

                Good luck with that, Mr. Hoang. Please excuse my mentioning that it's not an approach I would want to try, myself. I wouldn't expect customers redirected as quickly as possible from any of my sites to a merchant's site to buy much there. And I wouldn't expect to get many of them back, either. That's really kind of "the opposite" to my job as an affiliate.


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                • Profile picture of the author Mr Hoang
                  Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                  How are Facebook ads the same concept as search-engine traffic?


                  Content marketing works like this.



                  They are, just like anything on anyone's website, but that has nothing to do with how "article marketing" or "content marketing" works.

                  As I was explaining above, publishing articles just on your own site isn't really a traffic-generation plan: the only traffic that's ever going to bring you is a little bit of gradual, eventual search-engine traffic (and that's surely not what you want/need?)

                  Unless your sites are somehow very different from all of mine, visitors coming to your sites from a search-engine are not worth much to you, in the overall scheme of things?

                  This may help you: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post8659398



                  Wow ...

                  Just "wow".

                  Good luck with that, Mr. Hoang. Please excuse my mentioning that it's not an approach I would want to try, myself. I wouldn't expect customers redirected as quickly as possible from any of my sites to a merchant's site to buy much there. And I wouldn't expect to get many of them back, either. That's really kind of "the opposite" to my job as an affiliate.


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                  Facebook ads is basically what adwords use to be. You create an ad for your website. you set a target audience. and your ad get's posted in the right column. they are PPC
                  it's similar except adwords uses keyword searches. correct me if I'm wrong.

                  Yes I have read that you can post your articles on a website like goarticles.
                  thanks for the link. I will look into it.

                  That last comment sounded better in my head lol. But I agree You want the customer to spend some time on your website and get some value out of it before they make a purchase. Customers want to know about the product they are buying and the more quality information you can give them, the better. correct?
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                  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                    Originally Posted by Mr Hoang View Post

                    Facebook ads is basically what adwords use to be. You create an ad for your website. you set a target audience. and your ad get's posted in the right column.
                    Indeed. I completely understand the comparison between Facebook ads and AdWords ads. What I couldn't follow was the similarity between Facebook ads and SEO.

                    Originally Posted by Mr Hoang View Post

                    Yes I have read that you can post your articles on a website like goarticles.
                    That, too, isn't what "article marketing" is.

                    Originally Posted by Mr Hoang View Post

                    That last comment sounded better in my head lol.
                    Here I have every sympathy with you. The same observation, unfortunately, applies to a significant proportion of what I post here.

                    Originally Posted by Mr Hoang View Post

                    Customers want to know about the product they are buying and the more quality information you can give them, the better. correct?
                    I don't really want them knowing that from me, very much. From me, I want them getting niche information, not so much product information. That's what I need their email addresses for, so that by the time I recommend a product to them at all (which I'm certainly not anxious to do on my own websites: I don't want them thinking that I'm "just another marketer"!) I'll have built up the trust, credibility and respect I need from them, for them actually to buy it rather than just looking at it. I'm (mostly) a ClickBank affiliate, myself, so the primary purpose of all my websites is to collect the visitors' email addresses.

                    This comes right back to your original question, doesn't it? You asked "What an affiliate site should look like? I find it very helpful for mine not to look like sites that are promoting/selling products.


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                    • Profile picture of the author Mr Hoang
                      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                      Indeed. I completely understand the comparison between Facebook ads and AdWords ads. What I couldn't follow was the similarity between Facebook ads and SEO.
                      Ic, the concept is a bit different on second thought. From what I've experienced so far though facebook does a better job of reaching your intended audience. They do the targeting for you basically.


                      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                      That, too, isn't what "article marketing" is.
                      I have so much to learn then, but for now I want to focus on one type of traffic generating plan and find what works before I test out other methods. My plate is full right now lol

                      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                      Here I have every sympathy with you. The same observation, unfortunately, applies to a significant proportion of what I post here.
                      that's good to know lol

                      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                      I don't really want them knowing that from me, very much. From me, I want them getting niche information, not so much product information. That's what I need their email addresses for, so that by the time I recommend a product to them at all (which I'm certainly not anxious to do on my own websites: I don't want them thinking that I'm "just another marketer"!) I'll have built up the trust, credibility and respect I need from them, for them actually to buy it rather than just looking at it. I'm (mostly) a ClickBank affiliate, myself, so the primary purpose of all my websites is to collect the visitors' email addresses.

                      This comes right back to your original question, doesn't it? You asked "What an affiliate site should look like? I find it very helpful for mine not to look like sites that are promoting/selling products.


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                      This is actually a good mindset and something that I've thought about since I started my website. My blogs are actually setup to promote the niche as a whole. I wanted to give the customer valuable and reliable information. The moment I started to try and promote products, everything just seemed like a sales pitch. Yes of course I want to make money but,I want to gain the trust of my customers too like you said.
                      What is your website by the way?
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                      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                        Originally Posted by Mr Hoang View Post

                        What is your website by the way?
                        I have 9 of them (in 9 separate, unrelated niches), but like many Warriors not involved in any IM-related and/or MMO-related niches, I don't disclose them, with apologies ... I've done many hundreds of hours' research and analysis to identify my niches, partly on the basis of their relative lack of competition, so it's rather commercially sensitive information to me, you can appreciate?


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                        • Profile picture of the author Mr Hoang
                          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                          I have 9 of them (in 9 separate, unrelated niches), but like many Warriors not involved in any IM-related and/or MMO-related niches, I don't disclose them, with apologies ... I've done many hundreds of hours' research and analysis to identify my niches, partly on the basis of their relative lack of competition, so it's rather commercially sensitive information to me, you can appreciate?


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                          Amazing, where do u find the time lol. I can barely keep up with one and I don't have a fulltime job. Yeah I can appreciate that. Smart move.
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                          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                            Originally Posted by Mr Hoang View Post

                            Amazing, where do u find the time lol. I can barely keep up with one and I don't have a fulltime job.
                            I've never had a job. I started with one niche, of course, and worked just on that for about 30 hours per week, for quite a few months before I added a second one. (And it's taken me over 6 years to build up the number.)
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    You could always find something else to promote. You dont necessarily need a full-blown "affiliate site" to make good money with affiliate marketing. My homepage is an example of how i would build up my affiliate site. Revenue driven straight through email and blog sales. There are alot of affiliate programs/products that you can promote in the bodybuilding niche. Don't take it too hard because bodybuilding.com rejected you. I've been rejected by Ebay and Walmart like 3 times. Find something else and move on.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr Hoang
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      You could always find something else to promote. You dont necessarily need a full-blown "affiliate site" to make good money with affiliate marketing. My homepage is an example of how i would build up my affiliate site. Revenue driven straight through email and blog sales. There are alot of affiliate programs/products that you can promote in the bodybuilding niche. Don't take it too hard because bodybuilding.com rejected you. I've been rejected by Ebay and Walmart like 3 times. Find something else and move on.
      How does one make sales through blogs? Is it just simply by linking products and merchant links on your blog and newsletters?
      Yeah looking back I can understand why I got rejected. I have already applied for A1 supplements. just waiting on approval!
      haha I got rejected my ebay enterprise twice. I hear they're not that great to work with anyway. walmart?
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  • Profile picture of the author solosolo
    Hello Hoang,

    Just wonder what the %commission they pay?

    I think for the site, a good theme & nice design helps build instant trust to your visiors. And I think you need more content on your site.

    Just curious, have you built any niche site before?

    Cheers,

    Tuan
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr Hoang
      Originally Posted by solosolo View Post

      Hello Hoang,

      Just wonder what the %commission they pay?

      I think for the site, a good theme & nice design helps build instant trust to your visiors. And I think you need more content on your site.

      Just curious, have you built any niche site before?

      Cheers,

      Tuan
      Yeah I'm in the process of adding more content and visuals.
      The commission for A1 supplements. It is 12%, and this is my first time building any type of website really. I'm learning as I go, but I'm looking around for ideas .
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  • Profile picture of the author Mr Hoang
    Hey guys just an update on my progress. I got accepted into the A1 Supplements affiliate program. I had made 2 sales in my first week.
    Check out my updated website. livewellbyhealth(dot)com
    I implemented a signup to my blog, articles...added a get response web form for my personal newsletter and ebook . The PLR path seems promising. It has saved me a lot of time.
    Although there's so much more for me to do, I am enjoying this.
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    • Profile picture of the author solosolo
      Hey Hoang, congrats on making the sale. I'm still very new to the Internet Marketing world and struggling to make my first sale Keep up your good work yeah!
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      • Profile picture of the author Mr Hoang
        Originally Posted by solosolo View Post

        Hey Hoang, congrats on making the sale. I'm still very new to the Internet Marketing world and struggling to make my first sale Keep up your good work yeah!
        Hey thanks Tuan. Sales have been very slow lately. I have 4 sales and they came from ppc campaign. I have a couple of live articles online right now via an article directory and I'm hoping it pays off. I just have to continue adding. I'm also promoting through my facebook page which seems promising.
        Can I ask what you are promoting? what's your website?
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  • Profile picture of the author sonofGod
    Some of the discussion in this thread is rather confusing. Is Google adwords really Search engine traffic??
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    • Profile picture of the author onSubie
      Originally Posted by sonofGod View Post

      Some of the discussion in this thread is rather confusing. Is Google adwords really Search engine traffic??
      Adwords ads ahow up at the top and side of Google SERPs, so those ads are clicked on by people searching Google. So it is paid placement at the top of the SERPs.

      In that sense it is search traffic.

      But ads can also appear on the Content Network of websites displaying AdSense.

      When buying ads with Google you have the choice of your ads appearing with the SERPs, Content Network or Both.
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