Solo ads to make a quick affiliate sale

by eddiel
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Hi all,

Would you recommend buying solo ads to promote an affiliate 'best seller' product of JVzoo , CB or CJ ?
will I break even promoting a $20 product?, in order to break even I need to sell 2 items for 100 clicks? ($40)

Thanks,
Eddie
#ads #affiliate #make #quick #sale #solo
  • Eddie,

    Look for authority list brokers that specialize in your niche and in your target audience, instead of your basic run-of-the-mill solo ad sellers -- These authority list brokers generate leads from their regularly updated subscriber bases for their paid offline and online magazines, people who bought products / who called or emailed or live chatted with them for inquiries / who registered for contests / who filled out surveys / who downloaded some stuff from their heavily trafficked niche-authority sites, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author eddiel
      Thank you for your answer but I wouldnt know where to look for those "authority list brokers that specialize in my niche and in my target audience"
      Can you give me a direction for the Internet marketing / working from home / people that want to make money using the internet niche.

      If other readers have previous experiance, can you please share?

      Thanks,
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  • Profile picture of the author David Keith
    its not impossible, but its very unlikely.

    the lists that you can generally buy solo ads from are not premium type lists. That doesnt mean they are useless, it just means that buying a solo ad and expecting enough direct sales to cover more than the cost of the ad form the vast majority of them is pretty unlikely.

    If these lists could consistently produce sales of the types of products you describe why would the list owners sell you a solo ad for less than they could make being an affiliate themselves?

    again, these lists have their place and are useful. But they are not likely to work for what you are trying to do. It will be very hit and miss, with a lot more misses than hits i am afraid.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by David Keith View Post

    If these lists could consistently produce sales of the types of products you describe why would the list owners sell you a solo ad for less than they could make being an affiliate themselves?
    This.

    Originally Posted by eddiel View Post

    will I break even promoting a $20 product?
    No - almost definitely not.

    You need to look at the long-term value of the subscribers you acquire, not at their immediate value.

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  • Profile picture of the author Andy M
    Why not send the clicks to a squeezepage first and then redirecting them to your offer straight after opting-in for the freebie.
    For a high ticket offer it's possible to win it all back immediately (because of higher ROI's) but can be a bit risky.
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  • Profile picture of the author eddiel
    Thank you all for your replies,

    Andy, your suggestion makes perfect sense, let the solo's to build your list when people opt-in and the offer might pay for the solo..and if not you still gain leads.

    Would you recommend
    1. To redirect them to an offer directly?
    2. To redirect them to your 'thank you page' in which you tell them that the freebie is on the way to their inbox and have links to 4 affiliate offers on the page so they can choose and click on the offers that apply to them?

    Thanks,
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by nicheblogger75 View Post

      And what I am seeing is really making me sick. Basically it looks like just about every marketer these days (especially newbies) are doing nothing more than trying to suck as much money from their brand new prospects as possible. I had someone want to purchase a solo from me the other day. After testing his funnel I was in shock. It pretty much went like this: SQUEEZE PAGE => SQUEEZE PAGE 2 => SQUEEZE PAGE 3 => REDIRECT TO A PAGE FULL OF LINKS TO MORE SQUEEZE PAGES.

      As if that isn't bad enough, there are 3 links in his "welcome" email that are rotators that go to a whole slew of CPA offers and sales pages. I just couldn't quite believe it. On top of all this, what was promised in the first squeeze page was never delivered at all. It was totally outrageous. And I'm starting to quickly find out that this seems to be the new way that just about every email marketer is doing it.
      Horrendous.

      This really is awful, awful stuff!!

      Someone is teaching them to do this, and even worse than just that: I'm afraid it's sometimes the people promoting themselves as "internet marketing coaches" in the Warrior Forum!

      Originally Posted by eddiel View Post

      Would you recommend
      1. To redirect them to an offer directly?
      Opinions are going to differ, on this.

      Right after the opt-in, I would never want to send people to an offer page. Not at that point.

      I've tried it, in the past. For me, it was a big mistake to do that. As people who have split-tested it have often discovered (and they tend to be the ones who quickly abandon that idea, once they've thoroughly tested it for themselves.)

      I suspect there's quite a bit of misguided thinking about, on this subject. It's worth bearing in mind that it's possible to make the occasional quick sale that way and still lose a lot of money overall. Here's the key concept: the few people who will buy anything, that way, are all people who would have bought it in a week's time anyway, after receiving some email from you, so there's no real gain. But many other people, who would otherwise have bought it a week or two later, will be alienated by it, because of course it makes you look like "just another marketer", so if I did that, I'd expect a much lower open-rate for my emails than I actually get.

      (Also, for myself, I need the thank you page, in order to give clear instructions, both in words and in pictures, on what subscribers (two groups: "gmail users" and "others") need to do, in order to receive my emails in their in-boxes. Again, without doing this, my open-rates are significantly lower - and I certainly don't want anything else distracting from that, because it's what the bulk of my future income depends on, and long-term future income is the whole point of building the list in the first place?).

      Originally Posted by eddiel View Post

      2. To redirect them to your 'thank you page' in which you tell them that the freebie is on the way to their inbox and have links to 4 affiliate offers on the page so they can choose and click on the offers that apply to them?
      Again, for me, that's a "no, no, no".

      And my freebie is never on its way to them. I send them the download-link in the first email, and they take it themselves: I want to check that they can receive email from me in their in-boxes before they get the freebie.


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    • Profile picture of the author Andy M
      Originally Posted by eddiel View Post

      Thank you all for your replies,

      Andy, your suggestion makes perfect sense, let the solo's to build your list when people opt-in and the offer might pay for the solo..and if not you still gain leads.

      Would you recommend
      1. To redirect them to an offer directly?
      2. To redirect them to your 'thank you page' in which you tell them that the freebie is on the way to their inbox and have links to 4 affiliate offers on the page so they can choose and click on the offers that apply to them?

      Thanks,
      Eddie
      My best advice would be to redirect them immediately to an offer that is congruent with your freebie. You now have their full attention. Don't waste it by sending them to a "thank you page", you can do that later in the followups.
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  • You probably won't however..

    If you create a squeeze page and a..

    4-7 Part Autoresponder promoting this product, then not only will $40 buy you..

    20-30 Leads + 2-3 Sales
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    • Profile picture of the author eddiel
      Originally Posted by selfdisciplineacademy View Post

      You probably won't however..

      If you create a squeeze page and a..

      4-7 Part Autoresponder promoting this product, then not only will $40 buy you..

      20-30 Leads + 2-3 Sales
      Thank you for the tip , but I'm not sure what do you mean by "4-7 Part Autoresponder promoting this product"

      Can you give me an example?

      Thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by eddiel View Post

        I'm not sure what do you mean by "4-7 Part Autoresponder promoting this product"
        He was referring to an email series (comprising 4 -7 emails: not my choice, but there you go), which you send out in an automated way through an autoresponder service to visitors to your site who give you their email addresses via an "opt-in form" or "opt-in box".

        The basic idea is that you try to collect people's email addresses rather than (or at least "in addition to") trying to sell them something right away. If you don't do that, they don't have any "long-term value" to you, let alone trying to work out what it is and comparing it with the solo ad cost to see whether it's profitable or loss-making.

        This post from a moment ago explains a little more: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post9817831


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  • Profile picture of the author David Keith
    in direct marketing dont let people chose. you do as much of the thinking as possible for people and just tell them what to do. Lots of physiological things going on there, but thats for another discussion another time.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
    When you buy solo ads, the very best way is to send the traffic to a squeeze page that you have tweaked and tested, and that you are pretty sure will convert at 40% or better.

    Now, I don't want to start a rant, but some of the email marketing practices that are being used today are absolutely ridiculous.

    I do sell solos, but only to 2 or 3 people every month who have been regular customers for years. Selling large amounts of solos just doesn't make sense, since you can make SO MUCH MORE from your list if you treat them as people that you want to help and not just "assets" to be promoted to at every possible opportunity.

    People that are selling solos as a business models generally are using their solo sales as the only way to monetize their list. The reason is that by selling solo after solo, all the seller is doing is effectively thinning out his/her list by letting them opt-in to other marketer's squeeze pages.

    It wouldn't be so bad if the seller's subscribers only opted in to the buyer's squeeze page and that's all, but that's not the trend I'm seeing nowadays.

    And what I am seeing is really making me sick. Basically it looks like just about every marketer these days (especially newbies) are doing nothing more than trying to suck as much money from their brand new prospects as possible. I had someone want to purchase a solo from me the other day. After testing his funnel I was in shock. It pretty much went like this: SQUEEZE PAGE => SQUEEZE PAGE 2 => SQUEEZE PAGE 3 => REDIRECT TO A PAGE FULL OF LINKS TO MORE SQUEEZE PAGES.

    As if that isn't bad enough, there are 3 links in his "welcome" email that are rotators that go to a whole slew of CPA offers and sales pages. I just couldn't quite believe it. On top of all this, what was promised in the first squeeze page was never delivered at all. It was totally outrageous. And I'm starting to quickly find out that this seems to be the new way that just about every email marketer is doing it.

    Sure, I guess you can go that route and make a few bucks off your subscriber right away, but I feel that all that does is anger and frustrate the new subscriber.

    I am still doing it the "old fashioned way." By that I mean I offer a valuable free gift, and after opt-in I only redirect my subscriber to a page that tells them that their gift is on it's way to their inbox, and I include ONE link to an affiliate product at the bottom of the page. They don't have to click through to it unless they want to.

    In my "welcome" email, the only link present is the link that takes them right to the download page so they can get what's promised. Yes, I do have some links for my click banking partners on my download page. That is as far as I'm willing to go. I don't put 4 or 5 rotator links into my welcome email. I don't redirect my subscriber through 3 or 4 squeeze pages right after they opt-in.

    You wouldn't believe the amount of marketers who basically laugh at me and tell me the "relationship building" days are over, and the way I do it is ridiculous because I am losing out on so much money.

    However, I have to disagree. I make great money from my list. I have many loyal repeat customers. I have no problem making affiliate sales off high ticket items. Yet I'm supposedly still in the "dark ages" I guess because I refuse to pound a brand new subscriber with 7 or 8 affiliate offers, squeeze pages, CPA offers, etc, right away.

    Then I have others telling me that any traffic besides "top 6" is useless. Again, I disagree. I probably have dozens of regular customers from countries outside of the accepted "top 6." If I didn't allow international traffic, I'd lose money. It's almost as if people who don't live in "top tier" countries are construed as being worthless. Nothing could be farther from the truth IMO.

    I often wonder if there are other marketers who feel the way I do and who think that this new trend of squeezing every penny possible from a brand new subscriber is totally wrong and destructive to email marketing in general.

    I will say one thing, though. Almost every day I hear about some marketer getting their AR account closed down or suspended, and they claim to have no idea why. It seems to me that making people opt-in 2 or 3 times right off the bat and then peppering them with even more CPA offers from your welcome email might be something that the ARs might not look too kindly on.

    I'm often torn because sometimes I feel that by sticking to my guns and refusing to try and extract money from my subscribers before they ever even get one email from me is just me being stubborn. I mean, I see all of these other marketers doing it, and then all of a sudden I feel like maybe I'm the idiot because I refuse to operate this way. It just doesn't seem very smart to get a new subscriber and then offer them the opportunity to sign up to 4 or 5 other lists at the same time. Wouldn't that decrease your chances of having that subscriber purchase from you if they are also on tons of other lists as well? I would think you would want to acquire a new subscriber and keep them to yourself as much as possible.

    Now, as to the question of buying solos and sending them directly to an affiliate product instead of your squeeze page, I was curious myself.

    So I decided to try it. Last week I bought a 200 click solo for $160 and sent to a JVZoo product that was in the top seller list. I ended up making 9 sales for a total of $291.65. So I made a profit of $131.65.



    Now that's pretty good, but you have to take in account that maybe it would have been better to add 75-100 new subscribers to my list instead of just going for the affiliate commissions. In the long run I would probably make more if I could successfully convert even 2 of those new subscribers into regular buyers.

    Also, in order for this to happen I think you need to have perfect conditions, such as a seller who has great traffic and the right affiliate product to promote. It's much easier said than done to get those two variables right.

    In the end, I'm pretty confident that sending your solo traffic to your squeeze page is more profitable in the long run.
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    • Profile picture of the author eddiel
      Originally Posted by nicheblogger75 View Post

      When you buy solo ads, the very best way is to send the traffic to a squeeze page that you have tweaked and tested, and that you are pretty sure will convert at 40% or better.

      Now, I don't want to start a rant, but some of the email marketing practices that are being used today are absolutely ridiculous.

      I do sell solos, but only to 2 or 3 people every month who have been regular customers for years. Selling large amounts of solos just doesn't make sense, since you can make SO MUCH MORE from your list if you treat them as people that you want to help and not just "assets" to be promoted to at every possible opportunity.

      People that are selling solos as a business models generally are using their solo sales as the only way to monetize their list. The reason is that by selling solo after solo, all the seller is doing is effectively thinning out his/her list by letting them opt-in to other marketer's squeeze pages.

      It wouldn't be so bad if the seller's subscribers only opted in to the buyer's squeeze page and that's all, but that's not the trend I'm seeing nowadays.

      And what I am seeing is really making me sick. Basically it looks like just about every marketer these days (especially newbies) are doing nothing more than trying to suck as much money from their brand new prospects as possible. I had someone want to purchase a solo from me the other day. After testing his funnel I was in shock. It pretty much went like this: SQUEEZE PAGE => SQUEEZE PAGE 2 => SQUEEZE PAGE 3 => REDIRECT TO A PAGE FULL OF LINKS TO MORE SQUEEZE PAGES.

      As if that isn't bad enough, there are 3 links in his "welcome" email that are rotators that go to a whole slew of CPA offers and sales pages. I just couldn't quite believe it. On top of all this, what was promised in the first squeeze page was never delivered at all. It was totally outrageous. And I'm starting to quickly find out that this seems to be the new way that just about every email marketer is doing it.

      Sure, I guess you can go that route and make a few bucks off your subscriber right away, but I feel that all that does is anger and frustrate the new subscriber.

      I am still doing it the "old fashioned way." By that I mean I offer a valuable free gift, and after opt-in I only redirect my subscriber to a page that tells them that their gift is on it's way to their inbox, and I include ONE link to an affiliate product at the bottom of the page. They don't have to click through to it unless they want to.

      In my "welcome" email, the only link present is the link that takes them right to the download page so they can get what's promised. Yes, I do have some links for my click banking partners on my download page. That is as far as I'm willing to go. I don't put 4 or 5 rotator links into my welcome email. I don't redirect my subscriber through 3 or 4 squeeze pages right after they opt-in.

      You wouldn't believe the amount of marketers who basically laugh at me and tell me the "relationship building" days are over, and the way I do it is ridiculous because I am losing out on so much money.

      However, I have to disagree. I make great money from my list. I have many loyal repeat customers. I have no problem making affiliate sales off high ticket items. Yet I'm supposedly still in the "dark ages" I guess because I refuse to pound a brand new subscriber with 7 or 8 affiliate offers, squeeze pages, CPA offers, etc, right away.

      Then I have others telling me that any traffic besides "top 6" is useless. Again, I disagree. I probably have dozens of regular customers from countries outside of the accepted "top 6." If I didn't allow international traffic, I'd lose money. It's almost as if people who don't live in "top tier" countries are construed as being worthless. Nothing could be farther from the truth IMO.

      I often wonder if there are other marketers who feel the way I do and who think that this new trend of squeezing every penny possible from a brand new subscriber is totally wrong and destructive to email marketing in general.

      I will say one thing, though. Almost every day I hear about some marketer getting their AR account closed down or suspended, and they claim to have no idea why. It seems to me that making people opt-in 2 or 3 times right off the bat and then peppering them with even more CPA offers from your welcome email might be something that the ARs might not look too kindly on.

      I'm often torn because sometimes I feel that by sticking to my guns and refusing to try and extract money from my subscribers before they ever even get one email from me is just me being stubborn. I mean, I see all of these other marketers doing it, and then all of a sudden I feel like maybe I'm the idiot because I refuse to operate this way. It just doesn't seem very smart to get a new subscriber and then offer them the opportunity to sign up to 4 or 5 other lists at the same time. Wouldn't that decrease your chances of having that subscriber purchase from you if they are also on tons of other lists as well? I would think you would want to acquire a new subscriber and keep them to yourself as much as possible.

      Now, as to the question of buying solos and sending them directly to an affiliate product instead of your squeeze page, I was curious myself.

      So I decided to try it. Last week I bought a 200 click solo for $160 and sent to a JVZoo product that was in the top seller list. I ended up making 9 sales for a total of $291.65. So I made a profit of $131.65.



      Now that's pretty good, but you have to take in account that maybe it would have been better to add 75-100 new subscribers to my list instead of just going for the affiliate commissions. In the long run I would probably make more if I could successfully convert even 2 of those new subscribers into regular buyers.

      Also, in order for this to happen I think you need to have perfect conditions, such as a seller who has great traffic and the right affiliate product to promote. It's much easier said than done to get those two variables right.

      In the end, I'm pretty confident that sending your solo traffic to your squeeze page is more profitable in the long run.
      Wow , so many great replies but I didnt expect this level of involvment and help.

      I totally agree with you about the way IM is done is some cases and I think that it upsets customer more than it does any good to the marketer.

      The long time investment in developing a relaitionship with your subscribers is the secret to success as all the great marketers are giving value and help rather than just sending promotion offers.

      You showed us all that it is possible in certain conditions, however I dont think that its worth it (good as a test) if you are here to stay and develop a relationship with your customers.

      The truth is that some marketers use 'churn and burn' structure and couldnt care too much about their subscribers - still they make a good living.

      This is another debate but I agree with you on that.

      All the best
      Eddie
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    SQUEEZE PAGE => SQUEEZE PAGE 2 => SQUEEZE PAGE 3 => REDIRECT TO A PAGE FULL OF LINKS TO MORE SQUEEZE PAGES.
    I think I was through that funnel but I was investigating buying clicks. I found it mildly amusing, and wondered where my link would have been getting traffic.

    I regularly see people asking questions like, "how do I build a list to sell solos?" It's a fact of the business and just reinforces the need to investigate both buyers and sellers.

    BTW most solo sellers will not send to anything but a free offer.
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    • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
      Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

      I think I was through that funnel but I was investigating buying clicks. I found it mildly amusing, and wondered where my link would have been getting traffic.

      I regularly see people asking questions like, "how do I build a list to sell solos?" It's a fact of the business and just reinforces the need to investigate both buyers and sellers.

      BTW most solo sellers will not send to anything but a free offer.
      I'm starting to learn very quickly that selling solos is only a good business model if the seller plans to build a separate list just to monetize with solo selling.

      This brings up the question of what use these kinds of subscribers are to the person who has bought the solo from this seller.

      While I am sure you will get some good leads, the majority of the leads will undoubtedly be people who are probably on dozens, if not hundreds, of other lists. What chance do you have with these type of leads when it comes to even attempting to build a relationship, let alone making sales?

      As I've admitted, I do sell a few solos every month. A few. And lately I've been thinking of cutting it out completely. I'm starting to be of the thinking that selling solos is pretty close to selling your leads outright. While not exactly the same thing, it feels to me like maybe you are violating your subscriber's trust when you "rent" them out to someone else (which is basically what a solo seller does). Also, I would NEVER accept a solo where my subscribers would be added to more than the buyer's list.

      Maybe if I switch to this "new" way of doing things, I could make more money. I wouldn't know unless I ran tests. However, I REFUSE to change my current style. I don't want to sound sappy or anything, but I honestly feel blessed that I am able to sit in my living room and make a great living from my computer. Furthermore, I really do want to help others to realize their dream of achieving online success like so many of us Warriors have done.

      I take on a student every 3 months completely free of charge and teach them how to make money as an email marketer. One of my most recent students is also my neighbor, who I saw was struggling financially. I got him started roughly 4 months ago and he had his first $100 day last week. Let me tell you that to see the look on his face when he realized that he had his first $100 day was one of the most fulfilling feelings one can have as an Internet Marketer IMO.

      I think the bottom line here is that if things continue as they are going when it comes to email marketing, it's going to end up making it much harder for those of us who are doing it right.

      Like I said, maybe I'm just stubborn. Maybe if I can't beat 'em I should just join 'em. Yet, something inside just tells me to wait it out and things will return to the way they were before it became the status quo to try and squeeze every penny possible out of a brand new subscriber. One can hope.
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      • Profile picture of the author wfletch24
        Originally Posted by nicheblogger75 View Post

        I'm starting to learn very quickly that selling solos is only a good business model if the seller plans to build a separate list just to monetize with solo selling.

        This brings up the question of what use these kinds of subscribers are to the person who has bought the solo from this seller.

        While I am sure you will get some good leads, the majority of the leads will undoubtedly be people who are probably on dozens, if not hundreds, of other lists. What chance do you have with these type of leads when it comes to even attempting to build a relationship, let alone making sales?

        As I've admitted, I do sell a few solos every month. A few. And lately I've been thinking of cutting it out completely. I'm starting to be of the thinking that selling solos is pretty close to selling your leads outright. While not exactly the same thing, it feels to me like maybe you are violating your subscriber's trust when you "rent" them out to someone else (which is basically what a solo seller does). Also, I would NEVER accept a solo where my subscribers would be added to more than the buyer's list.

        Maybe if I switch to this "new" way of doing things, I could make more money. I wouldn't know unless I ran tests. However, I REFUSE to change my current style. I don't want to sound sappy or anything, but I honestly feel blessed that I am able to sit in my living room and make a great living from my computer. Furthermore, I really do want to help others to realize their dream of achieving online success like so many of us Warriors have done.

        I take on a student every 3 months completely free of charge and teach them how to make money as an email marketer. One of my most recent students is also my neighbor, who I saw was struggling financially. I got him started roughly 4 months ago and he had his first $100 day last week. Let me tell you that to see the look on his face when he realized that he had his first $100 day was one of the most fulfilling feelings one can have as an Internet Marketer IMO.

        I think the bottom line here is that if things continue as they are going when it comes to email marketing, it's going to end up making it much harder for those of us who are doing it right.

        Like I said, maybe I'm just stubborn. Maybe if I can't beat 'em I should just join 'em. Yet, something inside just tells me to wait it out and things will return to the way they were before it became the status quo to try and squeeze every penny possible out of a brand new subscriber. One can hope.
        I really wish more people were operating with this model. I can see why you might want to join them but as a solo buyer I would think your clicks cold be sold at a premium.
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        • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
          Originally Posted by wfletch24 View Post

          I really wish more people were operating with this model. I can see why you might want to join them but as a solo buyer I would think your clicks cold be sold at a premium.
          I agree. And I really think that the reason I had the success I did with my last 200 click solo buy is because the seller was doing the right thing with his list and did in fact send my solo out to a list that included quite a few buyers on it and probably got fresh subscribers every day.

          Now since this was the very first time I bought a solo and sent the traffic to a sales page rather than a squeeze page, I don't have the data to make any kind of educated statement on whether or not I could repeat the process with another seller and get a similar result. This particular seller also charged $.80 per click, which some may feel is high. I went with the "you get what you pay for" mentality when I chose the seller (along with many testimonials where people claimed to make sales from his traffic), and this time it just so happened to pay off for me. I'd have to try again with other sellers before I could say whether or not it's a business model that would produce consistent positive returns.

          Also, many sellers will not accept sales pages. However, I've found that those that charge higher prices for their clicks are more apt to allow it, probably because they feel they will make more from the solo sale than if they were to promote the product to their list themselves. Otherwise I have to wonder why someone would sell a solo rather than just promoting the same product to their own list.

          I think I charge a fair price for my clicks, but as I said earlier I really only sell a few solos. I have 3 or 4 regular customers who usually buy from me once a month or so. I don't mind doing that as the money covers most of my online bills like hosting, AR, domains, etc. That seems like a win-win to me. As far as selling one or more every day, I don't think I would ever want to do something like that. If I did, I would probably want to build a list specifically for that purpose, and that just doesn't seem fair to the people who would be buying from me. If people are going to pay top dollar for your clicks, don't they deserve to get the very best you have to offer?
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    Originally Posted by eddiel View Post

    Hi all,

    Would you recommend buying solo ads to promote an affiliate 'best seller' product of JVzoo , CB or CJ ?
    will I break even promoting a $20 product?, in order to break even I need to sell 2 items for 100 clicks? ($40)

    Thanks,
    Eddie
    Although it depends on what kind of product you wanna sell, my choice wouldn't be buying these over-spammed soloads. Go with other options instead.
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  • Profile picture of the author Edwin Torres
    I've done a similar thing but have made the ClickBank as the one time offer for my squeeze page. So when they opt in I redirect them to the sales page. I've gotten a couple of sales that way.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Edwin Torres View Post

      I've done a similar thing but have made the ClickBank as the one time offer for my squeeze page. So when they opt in I redirect them to the sales page. I've gotten a couple of sales that way.
      I also got some sales that way, when I tried it.

      And lost a large number of potential sales which I would otherwise have made later, but didn't because I redirected them much too quickly to a sales page.

      It was a huge mistake for me, for all the reasons explained in post #15 above.

      There's really a lot of misguided thinking about, on this point.

      People typically get "a couple of quick sales" from it; some don't quite think it through but look only very superficially and imagine that this proves that it's "working", whereas in reality it may be costing them a lot of long-term money.


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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    Originally Posted by eddiel View Post

    Hi all,

    Would you recommend buying solo ads to promote an affiliate 'best seller' product of JVzoo , CB or CJ ?
    will I break even promoting a $20 product?, in order to break even I need to sell 2 items for 100 clicks? ($40)

    Thanks,
    Eddie
    You will learn soon enough that this Mindset with Solo Ads is detrimental. It really doesn't work like that.

    It is possible but you are looking to try to bank upfront. Email Marketing should be approached from a long term standpoint. Building a relationship with people buying multiple times within your Sales Funnel.


    - Robert Andrew
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    • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
      Originally Posted by discrat View Post

      You will learn soon enough that this Mindset with Solo Ads is detrimental. It really doesn't work like that.

      It is possible but you are looking to try to bank upfront. Email Marketing should be approached from a long term standpoint. Building a relationship with people buying multiple times within your Sales Funnel.


      - Robert Andrew
      I agree with you 100% that buying traffic to send to a sales page rather than capturing leads is definitely detrimental.

      It's funny that this thread popped up when it did as I just recently tried this myself. As I showed earlier, it's certainly possible to buy a solo ad and send to an affiliate product and come out with a positive ROI. However, the product I was promoting was priced at $97 for the FE product with 50% commission. I was lucky enough to make 9 sales total, with I think 2 or 3 people buying the $197 upsell, of which I received 50% of also.

      I ended up making a $131 profit on the solo, but as I noted, I probably would have walked away with 75-100 new leads if I had sent the traffic to my squeeze page instead. I definitely feel in the long run, with my style of email marketing, that I would have ended up making more than $131 from those leads in the long run.

      Also, it's VERY important to realize that if you were to promote a product that only paid a $20 commission on the FE, making any kind of substantial profit on a 200 click solo would be pretty close to impossible IMO.

      If you are going to try sending solo traffic directly to a sales page, you need to get great traffic and a high converting affiliate offer that pays out a high commission. I just so happened to hit the nail on the head THIS TIME. I doubt it could be repeated every single time.

      On another note, I've been opting in to lots of lists lately just to see what some funnels look like. I have to say I'm really surprised at the sheer amount of marketers who are blatantly out to squeeze every penny they can out a subscriber before they even send them one followup email or provide them with any value. When I was first breaking into Internet Marketing (2007), I was taught that you GIVE before you RECEIVE. Is that theory still relevant? Seems to me many new marketers have never even heard of that concept.

      I have been hearing lots of marketers complaining lately that their AR shut them down and they have no idea why. Well, it seems pretty obvious to me... Who is teaching people this stuff? I guess I really can't blame the newb. They have to be learning this crap from someone.

      And what is with the double squeeze page thing? They opt-in and then they are asked to "confirm" their email address by opting in to another squeeze page directly after. Why capture the same email twice? Although I'm beginning to think this is how I am getting lots of emails from marketers that I never opted in to.

      I am struggling with the idea that maybe this is the new way of doing things and I'm the one who is being stubborn and behind the times by refusing to operate like this. I just can't bring myself to put links to other squeeze pages and CPA offers everywhere in my funnel and follow up emails.
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  • Profile picture of the author ahmadashfaq
    this is a the best self liquidate list building way..
    and you should give it a try..
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  • I vote against it because I think it's not an optimal strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author ethanalvin
    Well I'm gonna skip past all the noise and give you my 2 cents.

    No solo ad seller or anyone is able to guarantee you results from buying solo ads.

    The key is to always capture leads for your OWN list, before sending them to the sales page.
    Don't send direct traffic to an affiliate link because you want to build your OWN assets from the dime/penny you're sending.

    When I first started, I spent $50 on ppc ads and sent direct traffic to a sales page. Zero Sales & Leads to follow up on. Expensive lesson there!

    Lastly, ensure that you're tracking the solo ads. Do not give the seller your affiliate link directly.
    Add your affiliate link to a link tracking tool (I'm using ClickMeter) so that you're able to verify the unique clicks you're getting, and even the Tier 1%.

    Hope this helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author simeon13
    with product for $20 you will not make profit probably from my experience and there is no guranty that anyone will buy from you you need to get good offer create system or funnel and get good quality traffic
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  • It depends.

    Check the average conversion stats, and EPC's of the affiliate products..

    That you want to promote.

    And evaluate accordingly
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    @nicheblogger75;

    you made around $131 profit from 9 sales.....

    Is it not to hard to scale up your business to a goal like the top marketers- say above $10.000 per month from your list, with $131 reinvest?

    To build such a large list to make $10.000 month or more, you need more than $131 to reinvest that month after month....?

    marco005
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    • Eddiel,

      It is really a good idea to go with a solo ad promoting affiliate products. I've gone through the process with a happy results but you must be very careful about the solo ad vendors. I'd searched a lot for authoritative and reliable vendors and what I finalized was ''Directory of Ezine''. You can find here a whole bunch of vendors with strong reasons to rely on them. I recommend solo ad and DEO too.

      Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave sh
    Hi Marco005,

    Using solo ads to promote your product is one of the best ways to go now i'm not saying everyone who clicks on you add will buy but it is the easiest way to go go but get in touch with the vendor and ask them if they will promote your offer before just buying.

    Cheers

    Dave.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Trujillo
    Lots of good answers here. My suggestion is that rather then send traffic directly to product vendors page, instead capture those leads for yourself and from there in your follow ups not only do you have the leads, but you also have a higher chance of converting those prospects into sales if are able to show you subscribers how this product or service helps them. If you build your own list you ultimately are building up your own business. If you spend money on solo ads and send them straight to the vendors page and it doesn't covert you ultimately just lost money.
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  • Profile picture of the author CaviB
    Appreciate this thread lots of good info. I just started doing solo ads myself with my own split tested landing page. After reading this I've made some changes to a live campaign I'm currently running.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nisip
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    This is an unregulated market.

    It is based on trust. Do you have such products which will convert so well?
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    • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
      Originally Posted by arabesquelife View Post

      Hello! I would love to know if you went ahead and got the solo ads and how everything turned out? I am having this exact question here...thank you!

      Really no matter how he responded it should not stop you from doing your own testing even on a smaller budget in the beginning my friend.

      Many have had great success with solo ads but you do need to find a reputable solo pro.

      Also just FYI his last activity here was 23rd Jan 2015.
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    • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
      Originally Posted by mathew fleming View Post

      Eddie
      This is the best solo ads i found that actually converts 2016 MARKS ELITE SOLO ADS - YOU'LL GET 2000+ CLICKS/500+ LEADS GUARANTEED and if it doesn't then the guy gives you another solo ad package for FREE but this definitely converts so that's why the guy is confident about that
      Let's see here...

      You resurrected a thread that's more than a year old to drop your Clickbank affiliate link to a solo seller that claims to be able to give you 500+ opt-ins for just $99.

      On top of that it's your very FIRST post in this forum.

      NOT the way to start out my friend.

      Oh, and BTW, I know a few people who fell for that service and when they sent out a broadcast NOT ONE "subscriber" opened an email or clicked through.

      The subscribers are FAKE and the service is a SHAM.
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    this post is missing the real gem.

    you are going to keep slamming traffic before you know what works, and what doesnt.

    We do well with solos, but not all solo ads are created equal and not all solo ad sellers have the top notch list either.

    The more you pay, the better results, but that does not always happen either.

    you need to do alot of research before delving in the solo ad world lots of people getting scammed this year with solos.

    research first, always talk with your provider and if they are honest, and reliable and easy to reach, more ways than not, this is a good solo ad dealer.

    Believe me, they are out there, but in 2016, you have to look harder and work with guys and form a bond first.

    Do not just go to a solo ad seller cause he says, or advertises, 'hey we have 5000 clicks for $49' if you see that sort of chit, run for the hills, its likely to eat you up and spit you out, with NO RESULTS!

    Hope this helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
      Originally Posted by celente View Post

      this post is missing the real gem.

      you are going to keep slamming traffic before you know what works, and what doesnt.

      We do well with solos, but not all solo ads are created equal and not all solo ad sellers have the top notch list either.

      The more you pay, the better results, but that does not always happen either.

      you need to do alot of research before delving in the solo ad world lots of people getting scammed this year with solos.

      research first, always talk with your provider and if they are honest, and reliable and easy to reach, more ways than not, this is a good solo ad dealer.

      Believe me, they are out there, but in 2016, you have to look harder and work with guys and form a bond first.

      Do not just go to a solo ad seller cause he says, or advertises, 'hey we have 5000 clicks for $49' if you see that sort of chit, run for the hills, its likely to eat you up and spit you out, with NO RESULTS!

      Hope this helps.
      This is good advice.

      It took me a long time to build up a list of trustworthy sellers, and I got scammed many times.

      I found all of the best sellers on Facebook in the solo ad groups, which are a good resource because lots of people leave feedback. This way you can see what sellers are consistently delivering good traffic that is resulting in good conversion rates and sales.

      My goal every time I buy a solo ad is to cover my cost. I'm not looking to make a profit on the solo. I just want to cover the cost of the solo and achieve a conversion rate of 40% or better. This way I am building my list for free. The real money comes in forming a relationship with your new subscribers and converting them into buyers.

      One of the best ways to get the most out of your list is to promote programs that pay recurring commissions. This can be difficult in that you will need to find a good membership site to promote that is able to retain it's members. If you go off and promote a sub-par program, it will result in most of your subscribers dropping out after the first or second month. What's worse it will leave you looking bad and you will probably lose their trust.

      The most important thing to remember is that you need to find the right balance of content and promotion. I find that something along the links of 60% content/40% promotion works well for me.

      Now, back to buying solo ads. One way to avoid getting scammed is to ignore any seller who contacts you and offers you a large number of clicks for a low price. Most good solo sellers will not have to go after customers. They will have a waiting list. Also, the top solo sellers don't let their clicks go for .25 or .30, either. On average, I pay anywhere from .60 - $1 per click for top notch solo ad traffic.
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      • Profile picture of the author celente
        Originally Posted by nicheblogger75 View Post

        This is good advice.


        I found all of the best sellers on Facebook in the solo ad groups, which are a good resource because lots of people leave feedback. .
        a smart move, there is good money being made on there, by the right people who have the right clients, and who leave good reviews.

        Facebook, is often used for evil, and bad things, but this group you talk about is a prime example on how FB is being used for GOOD, and to do GOOD things for people who are building their businesses.

        Cheers, and hope you have a killer week. :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author fredi
    Solo Ads is a good option for promoting your Affiliate product. You have mentioned about $40 for 100 clicks. If you can search a bit more you will get 100 clicks within $30. There are few new sellers who has small number of feedback and offering good service, you can target them. On Facebook you will find any Solo Ads sellers groups. You can find them from those groups and negotiate the price.
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  • Profile picture of the author ringolevio
    Hi
    I have been using solo ads recently and I can say that they have worked for me to an extant but as someone has said earlier the majority of the time they don't even generate enough traffic sales to cover the cost of the advert.
    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by ringolevio View Post

      Hi
      I have been using solo ads recently and I can say that they have worked for me to an extant but as someone has said earlier the majority of the time they don't even generate enough traffic sales to cover the cost of the advert.
      Thanks
      expect to see more and more warriors write this stuff.

      Ive spent over $50k on solo ads. Some of that has been a complete waist of money. The best results I have had is from building my own FRESH lists and making money emailing them every 2-3 days.

      in 2017 email marketing is working even better cause there are people tied to their phone.
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  • Profile picture of the author pam2011
    I would never directly link to an offer in a solo ad. I would do what has already been suggested here before. Send them to a squeeze page and then send them useful information in a follow up sequence. Only market a product to them after 5 or 6 days. After that only send 2 emails a week. Either both will have useful content with no affioliate links or one will be content and the other one will be an affiliate link.

    Hope this helps,

    Pam Trivedi
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  • Profile picture of the author celente
    1) Without good leads on a solo list u will die.

    2) Talk to the seller first. See where his traffic is from.

    3) Solo ads, or the good ones, I found are hidden, and can only get them on skype not on UDIMI.

    4) Solo ads are dying a bit as they are all saturated, and getting leads from eachother...... eventually this is the deathknell for solo ads sellers, as their list become responsive, and they shoot themsevles in foot and lose their entire business.

    5) Start building your own leads each day, and becoming good and engaging with them. THis can do you lots of good, and make sales $$$ consistantly!
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