Empire Filppers or Flippa??

I'd say Empire Flippers.
Reason? Well for starters, flippa has a huge list of unsold autions ended. And you never know how good is the site that you are going to buy.
For example: A friend of mine sold a tech blog in 2012 and that site was hit by penguin. He was still able to sell it for $10k.
In case of Empire Flippers, these guys make sure that you get your 20x amount of what you are earning each month. Plus they make sure that the sites are working well and are actually not some spammy listing. I sold a couple of sites through Empire Flippers and was happy with the smooth process.

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TeKn1qu3z

11 years ago

Flippa for sure for me

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HelpingYouBeAnExpert

11 years ago

I vote empire flippers

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Always Be Closing

11 years ago

Well it depends, do you want to market your site to an audience of over 500,000 users (in which case Flippa) or do you want to market it to a small small fraction of that (in which case EF)? There's a reason why the guy selling ShipYourEnemiesGlitter chose Flippa.

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Thomas Smale

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Always Be Closing

Well it depends, do you want to market your site to an audience of over 500,000 users (in which case Flippa) or do you want to market it to a small small fraction of that (in which case EF)? There's a reason why the guy selling ShipYourEnemiesGlitter chose Flippa.

It's not about the number of buyers. It's about the quality. You would be better off marketing a business to 100 motivated millionaires than 500,000 random people. There's also been a disproportionate amount of assistance/marketing gone into the ShipYourEnemiesGlitter auction - that's not reflective of the usual level of service you would expect. It's just not practical.

Given the choice of a broker or Flippa, if your site is profitable and consistent then a broker is almost always your best bet as success rates are far higher. They usually cost about the same as Flippa, too.

If you have a site that fits the following, then Flippa (i.e. an auction) is probably the better option:

- New/viral sites (e.g. ShipYourEnemiesGlitter). I doubt a broker would get the hype that Flippa have built. The only problem is that someone is probably going to get screwed in that deal. Flippa is renowned for non-paying bidders.
- Distressed sites (e.g. sites that have been falling)
- If you need a quick sale. Seeing as Flippa doesn't pre-moderate listings, you could post a site in an hour. Even the best brokers take longer (doesn't take long to get an offer but the initial prep/due diligence can)

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TryBPO

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Thomas Smale

It's not about the number of buyers. It's about the quality. You would be better off marketing a business to 100 motivated millionaires than 500,000 random people. There's also been a disproportionate amount of assistance/marketing gone into the ShipYourEnemiesGlitter auction - that's not reflective of the usual level of service you would expect. It's just not practical.

Given the choice of a broker or Flippa, if your site is profitable and consistent then a broker is almost always your best bet as success rates are far higher. They usually cost about the same as Flippa, too.

If you have a site that fits the following, then Flippa (i.e. an auction) is probably the better option:

- New/viral sites (e.g. ShipYourEnemiesGlitter). I doubt a broker would get the hype that Flippa have built. The only problem is that someone is probably going to get screwed in that deal. Flippa is renowned for non-paying bidders.
- Distressed sites (e.g. sites that have been falling)
- If you need a quick sale. Seeing as Flippa doesn't pre-moderate listings, you could post a site in an hour. Even the best brokers take longer (doesn't take long to get an offer but the initial prep/due diligence can)

Thomas

Interesting, Thomas.

I was telling Joe (my business partner) the other day that I'd wished we'd thought to reach out to that guy to sell his site with us. The press/attention that's coming with that sale is going to serve Flippa really well.

And then Joe reminded me that this site would never pass our vetting process and we'd never get it listed!

I think this brand new, highly viral site is probably better with Flippa than a broker. Flippa auctions thrive on attention/action and probably wouldn't work with thoughtful, attentive broker-buyers.

With that said, I actually think your 100 motivated millionaires would be the WRONG audience for this listing, hehe.

I wouldn't want to get stuck holding the bag as the last bidder on that listing. I don't know what it will go for, but I'd have a hard time turning an ROI on it, I'm sure...and I'm a pretty good marketer.

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Thomas Smale

11 years ago

Originally Posted by TryBPO

Interesting, Thomas.

I was telling Joe (my business partner) the other day that I'd wished we'd thought to reach out to that guy to sell his site with us. The press/attention that's coming with that sale is going to serve Flippa really well.

And then Joe reminded me that this site would never pass our vetting process and we'd never get it listed!

I think this brand new, highly viral site is probably better with Flippa than a broker. Flippa auctions thrive on attention/action and probably wouldn't work with thoughtful, attentive broker-buyers.

With that said, I actually think your 100 motivated millionaires would be the WRONG audience for this listing, hehe.

I wouldn't want to get stuck holding the bag as the last bidder on that listing. I don't know what it will go for, but I'd have a hard time turning an ROI on it, I'm sure...and I'm a pretty good marketer.

On the bidder side, the 100 motivated millionaires was a hypothetical example. Flippa may have "500,000" buyers, but as you know, that doesn't mean much when selling a legitimate business. A broker doesn't make a living just by having a huge list.

Agreed with Joe - I thought the same thing but I would never have taken it on. Looks like a black hole of due diligence issues. Great PR for Flippa in the meantime, though (assuming it sells).

It's well suited to Flippa. I agree with you on the buying side of things - the short term press doesn't have much value (bar the value of the links, which is maybe $10k). The interview requests would have died off post-sale. The seller doesn't really seem on the ball so I assume there will be lots of refund issues, too. I wouldn't want to pick up the angry clients who ordered but never got what they ordered. It's not sustainable.

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Marie88

11 years ago

I've noticed that Empire Flippers make some impressive sales of these sorts of sites, more than they sell for on Flippa. Maybe people using Empire Flipper to buy sites have more trust that the site has been vetted and is for real.

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onSubie

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Marie88

I've noticed that Empire Flippers make some impressive sales of these sorts of sites, more than they sell for on Flippa. Maybe people using Empire Flipper to buy sites have more trust that the site has been vetted and is for real.

Empire Flippers are really more like brokers than a sales or auction site. They vet and verify the sites themselves before they list them. They also have a list of previous high-paying clients who are always interested in new premium sites.

If you have a premium site with proven earnings, then I would go with Empire Flippers because I think you would find higher quality buyers.

Flippa is more "buyer beware".

If your site is new and has unproven earnings then try Flippa to see what you can get.