Are there any affiliate managers who would enroll me?

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I am a newbie in the field of Aff marketing. I have worked in Outbound Telemarketing for a few years. I have data of US Residents who earlier enrolled for services and products in Financial Vertical.

I can dial for few hours a day to generate leads for products like Credit Card Signup/Credit Report/Mortgage Refinance/Loans or any other suitable niche even Email submit/Online Surveys. I can, with the help of another colleague generate 40-50 leads a day 6 days a week.

Are there any affiliate managers who would enroll me? Or any publishers who would let me generate traffic for a fixed revenue share per lead?
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  • Profile picture of the author Benomar
    I bet lot of affiliate managers will enroll gladly if you file applications. You have what it takes to get in easy.
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    • Profile picture of the author businessoppor
      Originally Posted by Benomar View Post

      I bet lot of affiliate managers will enroll gladly if you file applications. You have what it takes to get in easy.
      contacted about 5, so far all rejected. For some very strange reason they're fine with social media, email, search traffic but don't allow call traffic. For the advertiser, the mode of lead generation should be the last thing of concern, that's the whole concept of affiliate marketing. But reality is very different.
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      • Profile picture of the author ThinhH
        Originally Posted by businessoppor View Post

        contacted about 5, so far all rejected. For some very strange reason they're fine with social media, email, search traffic but don't allow call traffic. For the advertiser, the mode of lead generation should be the last thing of concern, that's the whole concept of affiliate marketing. But reality is very different.
        I simply believe that you are just contacting wrong affiliate managers. Keep working despite
        the fact that you fail; that is how you become successful.
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  • Profile picture of the author badut jenaka
    Why don't you build your own landing page website and drive traffic to it and convert for yourself. With your telemarketing skill I guess you will generate good leads.
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    • Profile picture of the author businessoppor
      Originally Posted by badut jenaka View Post

      Why don't you build your own landing page website and drive traffic to it and convert for yourself. With your telemarketing skill I guess you will generate good leads.
      even with a website, they're not ready. they want origin of traffic to be mail, social etc etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bob Reynolds
    If you had an authority site on something you like to sale, it would at least be building a list while you were calling them... maybe not them all the time, unless your whole data bass is not technical.. I mean everyone uses phones and now with sales on phones hire than on a pc, it would seem they do not need the tech skills as before to engage in a web page...
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  • Profile picture of the author camohit
    Anyone would be glad to hav you in their team since you already hav experience in required field. For that matter I'd be happy to explain you the business I am in. I dont know whether it is allowed to invite or not but since you posted the question it feels like you want an opportunity to succeed and I hav it so, couldnt stop myself. Hope to see you soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rory Singh
    Just like the last poster said, keep contacting affiliate managers until someone hires you. So what if 5 rejected you. Don't take it personal. It's no different than making cold calls. Not everyone will buy from you but you have to keep going until the 'right' company takes you on.
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      • Profile picture of the author choother
        just tell them what they want to hear... worked for me....
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        • As someone who is planning to become an affiliate manager (in the very near future), I can understand some of the concern in hiring someone looking to telemarket their products.

          You have to remember, you are representing their products and this process can be monitored much easier with written or graphical ads. I don't question your ability as a telemarketer, I just think others might be concerned with the damage that could be done if you aren't following from a script, or mis-speak about "their" products.

          You might be better off starting to sell these products via written platforms, build a relationship with the product owners and work yourself into a telemarketing role.

          Just my 2 cents.

          -CG
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          • Profile picture of the author businessoppor
            Originally Posted by ThinhH View Post

            I simply believe that you are just contacting wrong affiliate managers. Keep working despite
            the fact that you fail; that is how you become successful.
            Originally Posted by Rory Singh View Post

            Just like the last poster said, keep contacting affiliate managers until someone hires you. So what if 5 rejected you. Don't take it personal. It's no different than making cold calls. Not everyone will buy from you but you have to keep going until the 'right' company takes you on.
            I contacted Evan Weber, who runs largest Affiliate Community on Linked in. He told me, and i quote him "that is a very unusual way of generating leads. I don't have any references for you".

            Derek from Peerfly "We don't allow call traffic for any of our programs, it has to be email, seo, ppc etc etc" and many others responded along similar lines.

            I don't understand why this method is unheard of. I also wasn't able to find a Telemarketing Aggregator website where people can upload their products for call center guys to market using their skills at their own pace. This could be an excellent business idea for an experienced affiliate manager. It could be a winwin situation for both advertiser and marketer. Businesses will be able to setup their own call center at zero upfront and individual callers will be able to get new products to market.

            Originally Posted by camohit View Post

            Anyone would be glad to hav you in their team since you already hav experience in required field. For that matter I'd be happy to explain you the business I am in. I dont know whether it is allowed to invite or not but since you posted the question it feels like you want an opportunity to succeed and I hav it so, couldnt stop myself. Hope to see you soon.
            Please reply in PM what opportunities you have for me.

            Originally Posted by Charles Goodnight View Post

            As someone who is planning to become an affiliate manager (in the very near future), I can understand some of the concern in hiring someone looking to telemarket their products.

            You have to remember, you are representing their products and this process can be monitored much easier with written or graphical ads. I don't question your ability as a telemarketer, I just think others might be concerned with the damage that could be done if you aren't following from a script, or mis-speak about "their" products.

            You might be better off starting to sell these products via written platforms, build a relationship with the product owners and work yourself into a telemarketing role.

            Just my 2 cents.

            -CG
            Marketing generates leads, sales deptt. details the products and closes cycle. The person will anyway be signing TnC when obtaining the credit card or other loan product. All the details will be finalized at the time of disbursal. The very job of marketing is to show a preview of product, sales or affiliate managers for that matter should never expect detailed depiction of product from marketing. That's an uncalled for fear psychosis.
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            • Profile picture of the author Steve B
              Originally Posted by businessoppor View Post

              I don't understand why this method is unheard of.

              You are misunderstanding what you're seeing. It's not that generating leads by phone is "unheard of" - that's ridiculous. Everyone has been interrupted at home by a cold calling telemarketer.

              The problem is . . . these affiliate managers and their current programs are not set up to market most low-mid dollar products by phone call. It doesn't make sense for their business model.

              Why employ someone to cold call when you can send out thousands of email offers all at once for nearly nothing? Phone calling in the IM space is often employed by companies upselling training, seminars, and other high ticket items, but the model doesn't fit the average run-of-the-mill product like you'd find on the WF.

              Not only that, do you think product creators want to have just anyone calling random numbers and representing their company when they can get lots of Internet email address leads by using a squeeze page and a simple autoresponder?

              Finally, I think your approach to offering leads you have, unless you own them outright ("I have data of US Residents who earlier enrolled for services and products in Financial Vertical."), is a law suit waiting to happen.

              Why can't you just work for a telemarketing company where you can offer your own direct experience in the industry? Being on the payroll will probably pay you much more than being an entrepreneur. If you want to learn IM, do it in your spare time as you can.

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              • Profile picture of the author businessoppor
                Originally Posted by DubDubDubDot View Post

                1. The affiliate program is on the hook for any FCC violations you make against the DNC registry. Why would they take that risk for some random affiliate?

                2. That contact data you've got belongs to your previous employer. The affiliate program could be sued.
                1.So are they for unsolicited mails under CANSPAM. BTW this doesn't apply, They registered earlier and optedin for an active service.

                2.All my skills, my upselling/cross selling skills, basically everything I learnt belongs to them. I wonder if I can ever use my expertise elsewhere because I learnt every dime of trade on the floor. When a floor runner in a stock trading company switches from one broker to another, along with him go all the clients. That's the standard practise of business. That's how business works and will continue to work in future. I generated the clients, I put my sweat into it as well.

                Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

                You are misunderstanding what you're seeing. It's not that generating leads by phone is "unheard of" - that's ridiculous. Everyone has been interrupted at home by a cold calling telemarketer.
                Steve
                I'll keep on searching, I want to setup something of my own.
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                • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
                  Originally Posted by businessoppor View Post

                  1.So are they for unsolicited mails under CANSPAM.
                  Which is why the vast majority of affiliate programs don't let you promote them directly via email.

                  Originally Posted by businessoppor View Post

                  2.When a floor runner in a stock trading company switches from one broker to another, along with him go all the clients. That's the standard practise of business. That's how business works and will continue to work in future. I generated the clients, I put my sweat into it as well.
                  Did you get that in writing from your employer or are you just assuming that it applies to you?

                  Unless you've got it in writing that you can market to the list that you built during your employment, it is considered a trade secret of your former employer and your use of it is actually a crime.
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  • Profile picture of the author DubDubDubDot
    1. The affiliate program is on the hook for any FCC violations you make against the DNC registry. Why would they take that risk for some random affiliate?

    2. That contact data you've got belongs to your previous employer. The affiliate program could be sued.
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