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Is niche web site still working ?

by Simoneween
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I intend to start a micro niche web site, but I heard that Google ban micro niche web site from getting high rank in Google search engine, is that true ?
#niche #site #web #working
  • Profile picture of the author high_plains_drifter
    If you provide high quality content then no, its not banned from Google.

    I think what the source is referring to is the low quality, thin content websites that are often attributed to micro niche sites. In which case, yes, these type of websites have been killed off (thankfully) by Google
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      High Plains Drifter is quite right ^^^ .

      Originally Posted by Simoneween View Post

      I heard that Google ban micro niche web site from getting high rank in Google search engine, is that true ?
      Not necessarily, but who cares, anyway? Search engine traffic isn't really worth anything much anyway, compared with traffic from just about any other source. That's about the hardest traffic there is, to monetize. So it would be no great loss? http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post8659398 <--- that will help you, I hope

      If you're planning to do micro niche sites and want to get the traffic mostly from Google, you have much bigger problems with your business than just "whether or not they might not rank well"!

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      • Profile picture of the author dana67
        I depends on the niche and how much of an effort you put into your sites and blogs. Micro niche web sites are not banned from ranking high, but bad SEO methods such as spamming, etc. will hurt you.
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        • Profile picture of the author Peter Lee
          When a business model relies heavily on Google ranking to get traffic, it is not a very good model since there are just too many things that you have no control of. This places an unnecessary burden to your business growth, expansion, profits and everything else that are related to how much traffic you get.
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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    Most of the 'top level' marketers and most successful and influencial people in the IM world started off in a niche market that produced massive results. Of course they understood their target audiences needs and delivered value.

    Think about it; Frank Kern created a product on 'how to train your parrot' and made tons of money. Eben Pagan stated that he wrote an ebook on dating and made his first sales online.

    Of course micro-niche marketing is a damn good starting place, provided you 'know your audiences' desired outcome and deliver value to them.

    As stated above, don't rely on Google or only SEO... Learn to 'step out in front of your target audience' by utilizing existing traffic (i.e. YouTube, Social Media, paid traffic, syndicated content, etc...)

    But yes, niche marketing will always thrive... So long as people still quilt, go bowling, seek dating advice, or love their pets... There's a few million more... But You get the point.
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  • Profile picture of the author Murray777
    Micro niche sites still work as long as its quality and unique content and has a good bounce rate. I still see a few one page websites out there ranking well
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    • Profile picture of the author schttrj
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      Not necessarily, but who cares, anyway? Search engine traffic isn't really worth anything much anyway, compared with traffic from just about any other source.
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      That's where people go wrong. Just check the attachment below. It lists the top 12 sites according to Alexa (the global visit measuring engine and NOT Ms. Smith), which is a rough but accurate measure of the global online visits on the WWW.

      6 out of 12 websites are Search Engines!

      Don't let anybody tell you search traffic is "small".

      And here's my suggestion to you.

      If you want to create a niche site, don't create it as a blog. Rather compress the content into a small eBook and give it away for free.

      In that way, you can build list and earn affiliate income for a long time.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by schttrj View Post

        It lists the top 12 sites according to Alexa (the global visit measuring engine and NOT Ms. Smith), which is a rough but accurate measure of the global online visits on the WWW.
        No, it isn't.

        It isn't "a rough but accurate measure of the global online visits". That's just wrong.

        The only traffic that "Alexa" can measure is the number of visitors to a site who happen to have the so-called "Alexa toolbar" installed and running in their browsers at the time of their visit. And those people are all internet marketers and SEO workers! Nobody else uses it!! So it tells you nothing about "normal traffic" at all, and you're talking nonsense. All over again.

        The whole forum has been exasperated with you on multiple occasions, Ron, when you troll me by posting ludicrous nonsense about what you imagine "article marketing" is, and now you're back, trolling again, on something else where it turns out that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

        First, even if what you were saying above about search engines is true, that doesn't detract one iota from the point I made about the quality of search-engine traffic. You just totally missed the point.

        Secondly, you quoted me as saying something I hadn't said.

        Thirdly, what you're saying about "Alexa rankings" is totally wrong, and unsurprisingly you're therefore drawing from it a conclusion that's totally invalid. And don't start your usual trick of telling us again and again all that stuff about how many years you've worked for a successful Indian SEO company for: nobody cares, and it has nothing to do with your factual mistatements and totally misguided "information" here. You're just wrong. What you're saying simply isn't true.

        The last time I looked at my own "Alexa rankings", I checked out two of my sites. One, which is a private blog only really for my rather widespread family and gets almost no traffic at all, had a really low-numbered high-ranking "Alexa ranking", meaning that they think it "gets enormous traffic" (but not according to my server logs!), and the other, which genuinely gets so much traffic, in floods, that I have to have special hosting for it, is apparently nowhere to be seen! It really IS as unreliable and useless as that.

        But when you look at what it's actually measuring, that's not a great surprise, is it?

        Only you are deluded enough to imagine that it actually signifies anything worth knowing about, Ron. To all the rest of us, it's fictional and irrelevant nonsense.

        See for yourself, below, what successful and experienced marketers are saying about it.

        Does Alexa give total traffic qty?

        (newb) Is Alexa important?

        How important is Alexa ranking?

        Importance of Alexa.

        How do you find the guru sites that are highest ranking in Alexa?

        Alexa or Page rank is more important


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        • Profile picture of the author schttrj
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          No, it isn't.

          It isn't "a rough but accurate measure of the global online visits". That's just wrong.

          The only traffic that "Alexa" can measure is the number of visitors to a site who happen to have the so-called "Alexa toolbar" installed and running in their browsers at the time of their visit.
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          I didn't read after this.

          Although I know you are really not worth my time, I do bother when I see you talking SH*T on the internet.

          I know Alexa is measured by the toolbar, and that's why it is a rough measure, and not totally accurate. But it does give you the overall sense of the trends.

          And ma'm, here's my OPEN CHALLENGE to you.

          Get me data where it says people visit some other website for information other than Google.


          Anyway, don't bother. I don't like speaking with people WITHOUT proofs.

          Don't spew your B.S. over here. You are not an expert, so don't prove to be.

          And Brent, yes, I got that wrong. Sorry.

          To your comment, no, search engine traffic is the second easiest to convert after targeted PPC, IMO because people are already in the first stage of product sophistication.

          Think about it.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by schttrj View Post

            I didn't read after this.
            It shows.

            Originally Posted by schttrj View Post

            I know Alexa is measured by the toolbar, and that's why it is a rough measure, and not totally accurate. But it does give you the overall sense of the trends.
            It gives you the overall sense of the trends among people who have the Alexa toolbar installed in their browsers, and those people are all internet marketers and SEO workers because nobody else uses it.

            It tells you nothing at all about "normal traffic", because it can't measure that.

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          • Profile picture of the author onSubie
            Originally Posted by schttrj View Post

            And ma'm, here's my OPEN CHALLENGE to you.

            Get me data where it says people visit some other website for information other than Google.
            You don't think people visit sites for information other than Google?

            Well... earlier in the thread you said (according to Alexa data):

            Originally Posted by schttrj View Post

            ...the top 12 sites according to Alexa (the global visit measuring engine and NOT Ms. Smith), which is a rough but accurate measure of the global online visits on the WWW.

            6 out of 12 websites are Search Engines!

            Don't let anybody tell you search traffic is "small".
            Assuming that one of those search engines was Google, it seems like definitive proof that people visit 5 sites other than Google for information.

            Even if people search with Google they are going to visit other sites for information.

            I don't think you said what you thought you meant.
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            • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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              Originally Posted by onSubie View Post

              I don't think you said what you thought you meant.
              Since Ron joined this forum in 2010, that's been the "charitable" interpretation of many of his posts, Mahlon.

              It's important for people reading these threads, and especially for complete newbies of whom the forum is currently so full, to appreciate that what matters, in trying to learn from "forum information", is to try to form some judgment about "by whom to be guided", and to be aware that much of the "information" here - including even some posted by comparatively longstanding members - has come directly out of the Urban Myth School of Internet Marketing and is actually complete misinformation.


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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    Don't let anybody tell you search traffic is "small".
    She didn't say it was "small."

    Search engine traffic isn't really worth anything much anyway, compared with traffic from just about any other source. That's about the hardest traffic there is, to monetize.
    I agree.
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  • Profile picture of the author joaquin112
    The problem nowadays is that it can take years to rank a micro niche site if you go the white hat route. In my view, you have two options:

    1. Buy an already established website and work on it. (This is my favorite route and it can save you years of effort).
    2. Focus on other sources of traffic.

    Starting a new website from scratch is not a good idea any more IMHO.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheProductReviewGuy
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    Yes it is still working. I have 25 micro niche sites earning $30-$50 a month each. They ave never received a penalty from Google because of the fact that I use high quality content and use high pr backlinks for link building.
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  • Profile picture of the author justicejr
    It is still working. Many people still want to find specific answer. Niche sites are great way to get traffic from these. If your content can specific target. It made easy to make money.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Being a simple kind of a guy, I could never see why getting high ranking in the Google search engine could be so much more important than making money. Until Google perfects its ranking algorithm, web content that converts well is rarely content that ranks well.
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  • Profile picture of the author pcgun007
    yes my site is still working..
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  • Profile picture of the author Curtis2011
    Originally Posted by Simoneween View Post

    I intend to start a micro niche web site, but I heard that Google ban micro niche web site from getting high rank in Google search engine, is that true ?
    Micro niche sites only work if the keyword has very low competition. But yes, they can still work.
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  • Profile picture of the author selfdisciplineacademy
    No, I don't believe so..

    If you provide great, and keyword rich content, you'll rank
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  • Profile picture of the author priyamathi
    Hi,

    Yes, still niche website working. Nowadays niche website is getting ranked by Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author davidpham
    Just need to remember: content is king. So that anyway of the site if your content is good then google will rank you high. Don't try to do too many sites. 10 sites with 10 articles, you can make 10 articles in one site and make traffic much more than 10 sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author arindamb
    Don't think in terms of "micro niche" site - I mean don't create those content less sites for adsense or something similar. Content is king and give it the royal treatment. The big G won't call you a bad boy.
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  • Profile picture of the author PriyankaMehta
    Originally Posted by Simoneween View Post

    I intend to start a micro niche web site, but I heard that Google ban micro niche web site from getting high rank in Google search engine, is that true ?
    Well, It is not true. Who told you. I want to make assure that if you provide better quality contents and URL, then Google won't penalize you. But, if you don't, then it might be possible that your website is penalized by Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author sal64
    Sorry folks... but I have always found organic traffic to be the worst converting.

    If you want to drive traffic to a niche site, then I assume that it basically a sales page? In which case, you need traffic that is looking to buy... which is normally via ads.

    Sal
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  • Profile picture of the author xembergg
    lol yeah it still works... but make sure you have an high quality site and also try to maintain more content which will make your site automate authority.
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  • Profile picture of the author FreedomBlogger
    That is not true.

    What is true is the fact that Google hates crappy content a lot more now and has found ways to avoid it in their search results as much as possible. This means you should only be sharing QUALITY Content on your micro niche blog if you want good rankings.

    That's it!

    I hope this helps!

    I wish you the best of the best!

    Keep up the great work!

    Cheers!
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      In my not so humble opinion, it is never a good marketing practice, particularly for newbies, to depend upon the search engines as a primary source of traffic. Websites that rank high in the SERPs often have very poor conversion rates because shoppers tend do use search engines primarily as a research tool during their purchase decision cycle. Source: Study: 81% research online before making big purchases | RetailingToday.com

      Of course, the task of ranking and maintaining any viable position in the SERPs is itself a sisyphean effort when there is any significant level of competition. In my own experience over the years, niche websites (especially standalone single product websites) have done extremely well in converting traffic. This was due to my marketing style of nearly exclusively using a content marketing approach.

      This concept certainly isn't new (it's been a topic of discussion and teaching on the WF back in the early days), but in a recent article in a search engine industry publication, content marketing is now increasingly considered to be a critical part of an online presence. Source: Trends Search Marketers Can't Ignore | Search Engine Watch
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  • Profile picture of the author ACandi
    Originally Posted by Simoneween View Post

    I intend to start a micro niche web site, but I heard that Google ban micro niche web site from getting high rank in Google search engine, is that true ?
    Hi Simoneween;

    At one time I had a blog that ranked on page one Google, Yahoo and Bing for months. It ranked between 2 - 7 on page one. What kept it there was RELEVANT CONTENT to the niche.

    The problem was I did not earn any money.

    I am now making a profit online because I'm using a sales funnel and driving traffic using solo ads.

    For all I know that blog may still be ranking high, because I've noticed regular sign ups over the past month, but right now I'm focusing on another niche.

    LB.
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