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Need a product

by kcbowman
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Does anyone have something that is proven to convert with paid traffic?

I went to clickbank yesterday and set up an affiliate program mimicing the entire layout of one of the products with a gravity above 300. I literally copied their sales page html into my domain and the video. I contacted the owner who said it was cool. I then sent 600 people to the site but not 1 person clicked the buy link I replaced the buy link with a cart link so when they purchased it would go directly to the cart with me as an affiliate. Skipping over using affiliate links on clickbank.

So, I targeted great traffic and sent them to the same landing page that is supposed to have the highest gravity and it didn't convert.

I need some way to utilize this tool. I can get 100 display network clicks in about 2-3 hours for 10-12 bucks. I saw some stuff on here where guys are paying $100 for something like that. It' a valuable skill that I don't have a way to apply.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
    Why are you just copying their sales page?

    That seems redundant. Why not build a squeeze page to capture their info first, or build A pre sales lander, or just send them directly to the cb hop link?
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    • Profile picture of the author kcbowman
      Originally Posted by Jeff Lenney View Post

      Why are you just copying their sales page?

      That seems redundant. Why not build a squeeze page to capture their info first, or build A pre sales lander, or just send them directly to the cb hop link?
      Have you had success just sending them to the link without any sales tactics? I know how to link directly to a cart bypassing the need for a hoplink, but I don't think sending people directly to carts will generate sales.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
        Originally Posted by kcbowman View Post

        Have you had success just sending them to the link without any sales tactics? I know how to link directly to a cart bypassing the need for a hoplink, but I don't think sending people directly to carts will generate sales.
        You've got alot to learn my friend.

        Anyways, sorry for the delayed response - was out in Pasadena and Los Angeles for the weekend with my wife - just got back :-)

        While the sales pages ARE designed to make sales (naturally), you'll make A-LOT more sales if you pre-sell them on the product.

        This can be done a few ways:
        1. Get them on your email list, provide value for a few days then recommend the product
        2. Built a simple "click here to continue" landing page that warms them up to whatever you're promoting
        3. Build up a following on facebook,twitter, pinterest etc - build a RELATIONSHIP with your list/following and then recommend it
        4. Do a YOUTUBE REVIEW (or a review on your blog) of the product, tell people the pro's and con's of it, and why you recommend it (or DON'T recommend it, and recommend ANOTHER product in it's place)
        Basically, people are 5 times MORE likely to buy if they trust who's selling it, OR if you warm them up first to the product before promoting it somehow.

        Not sure on the '5 times' number, but I know it's up there somewhere and I DEFINITELY see that with my earnings vs sending people to a product sales page cold

        Hope this helps


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  • Profile picture of the author AndrewStark
    Have you looked at promoting JVZoo products?

    Also am I being thick here, but do you not need to match the network clicks to the niche rather than just gravity? Also if you listen to Jeff then you generate leads which you can convert into buyers via email marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author kcbowman
    Google display network does not allow you to send traffic directly to affiliate links since the links aren't real domains.

    I copied the sales page thinking that since the gravity is so high then other affiliates are having success with it. If I can just send targeted traffic to a proven converting sales page then I would start generating income. I was wrong, no one bought the product. I'm not trying to wait months building a list and sending them quality email after email kissing their butts until they trust me enough to buy. There are people out there buying into programs from sales pages. I need a high converting sales page I can send traffic to in order to generate a profit today.

    Does anyone know of anything that consistently converts at this 1% standard I keep reading about?
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  • Profile picture of the author arindamb
    You seem to be in a real hurry my friend. That's good, but you gotta follow the right steps. An avalanche of traffic would mean nothing unless you know the traffic is super targeted and will convert. Treat traffic like humans. Listen to Jeff. He's got a point there.
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  • Profile picture of the author kcbowman
    Thank you all for the helpful posts.

    I'm chronicling my story on a different forum, and I linked over jeff's advice for others to read.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    same landing page that is supposed to have the highest gravity and it didn't convert.
    Gravity doesn't mean much and is a terrible way to choose an affiliate product to promote.

    Test a different product with the same traffic.

    Opt them in first like Jeff said.
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  • Profile picture of the author alvinhy
    Originally Posted by kcbowman View Post

    Does anyone have something that is proven to convert with paid traffic?

    I went to clickbank yesterday and set up an affiliate program mimicing the entire layout of one of the products with a gravity above 300. I literally copied their sales page html into my domain and the video. I contacted the owner who said it was cool. I then sent 600 people to the site but not 1 person clicked the buy link I replaced the buy link with a cart link so when they purchased it would go directly to the cart with me as an affiliate. Skipping over using affiliate links on clickbank.

    So, I targeted great traffic and sent them to the same landing page that is supposed to have the highest gravity and it didn't convert.

    I need some way to utilize this tool. I can get 100 display network clicks in about 2-3 hours for 10-12 bucks. I saw some stuff on here where guys are paying $100 for something like that. It' a valuable skill that I don't have a way to apply.
    TIP: LOOK AT IT IN A DIFFERENT ANGLE.

    The reason why it is not converting is not because of the landing page. Maybe it is because of the traffic. No matter how high quality diamond D grade flawless it is, the traffic is NOT interested in that particular product.

    Its like getting a bunch of bloated guys that just had a free buffet and offering them another full course meal.
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  • Profile picture of the author kcbowman
    I do keyword research by going to the landing page of the click bank product and putting it into google keyword tool. I add all of those. Then I pick the top searched targeted keyword and get similar keywords. I repeat this until I have over 3k keywords, then I scroll through the list and hand pick the keywords. Finally the banners aren't vague, but tell people exactly what is about to be offered before they get there.

    Don't know much else there is to be done with that. I use google display network. I would use the text traffic but it costs too much to give me a positive ROI.
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  • Profile picture of the author FreedomBlogger
    That just means the ad copy and the video are not converting well with the type of traffic you are sending.

    What you need to do is work a lot more on the landing page. I would recommend you to build your own with some ideas you get from the sales pages of the clickbank product.

    What you can do is create 'Sandwich Capture Page'. This means you should create a very simple Capture Page that redirects visitors to the Clickbank Product's Sales Page.

    This way you can capture leads and follow up with them through emails.

    Work on your Ad Copy of your capture page. It will have to make the visitor very curious about what is on the other side. So, pay close attention to the sales page. Analyze it. Study it as much as possible.

    Then test out different ad copies to get the best conversions on your capture page.

    You should also really learn exactly what type of traffic you are sending to these pages.

    I hope this helps!

    I wish you the best of the best!

    Keep up the great work!

    Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author kcbowman
    This seems good. I don't try to sell them, actual salesmen do.

    I have some questions before I sign up. I take it that's your affiliate link so this will make or break your sale. I'm sure that there are up-sells involved with this. Is this "initial consultation" me talking to the salesman who will then asses my marketing budget and try to sell me more products inside of the program. The program video does a lot of talking but does not say anything. No mention of the services you will be selling. No mention of marketing costs associated with using the 21 step system. No mention of they system at all or what he bothers teaching you. I don't like programs that don't lead with transparency. I tend to believe that if everything isn't explained up front the first time, the salesman is hiding something.

    Answers to these questions may push me off this fence, but I think the answers are in the arena of the things I don't want to be involved with.
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  • Profile picture of the author AaronBurton
    I've never had success with clickbank personally but most of the time people don't buy on the first encounter with your sales page. Takes about 7 encounters with an offer for them to buy. Of course everyone is different but that's the average. You might also want to start building a list and creating a self liquidating funnel. Basically once they opt in send them to a CPA offer that pays like $2 per optin. Then send a follow up email to the actual clickbank offer. You basically wanna make money whether they buy or not. You can then sell funnel clicks or solo ads once you have a decent list. Hope that helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author kcbowman
    I was trying to be an affiliate in conjunction with pushing my own product, But I'm just going to stick to pushing my stuff. I like that 7 figure. I haven't heard that one before. Sounds like a lot of time. If you try and throw a product in a persons face 7 times wont you get opt outs? Especially if you are sending the same repetitive email over and over again. How do you go about doing that.
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