Direct Linking or Landing?

by halk
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Hello friends, i'm trying to promote one product here about how to seduce women..

The monthly searches is very low, i get low traffic but i'm not converting

I already selled 12 copies of that product in my landing... (with about 1% conversion rate).. Now i'm trying direct linking with PPC Bing Ads.

I got 120 clicks and 0 leads

The landing page of the owner is only one flash video saying about the product...

What you think guys?

I tried other product too with 300 clicks and 0 sells....

I'm using prosper202 to tracking the keywords, but i don't getting any sells...
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  • Profile picture of the author brennonhawkins
    Without seeing much of what is actually going on the only reason I can think of for the 0% conversion rate would be the keywords you used in your campaigns.

    You may also need to target your traffic and be more precise. Think about who would actually want to buy. Obviously it's a dating product so the ideal candidate would be a single male between 18-30 that would lean more towards the "geek" side.


    A quick tip: try marketing to women. They are easier to sell to, especially online.

    No offence to the women of the forum. It's just a fact of life
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    the only reason I can think of for the 0% conversion rate would be the keywords you used in your campaigns.
    Or about a million other variables.

    I already selled 12 copies of that product in my landing... (with about 1% conversion rate)
    Keep doing that. Does 1% produce a return on your investment?
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    • Profile picture of the author halk
      The product is portuguese... You open and need watch a long video.

      Originally Posted by rseigel View Post

      It's impossible for anyone to give you an opinion without being able to see your product page.
      I'm using good keywords, the problem is that niche not have much searches on Bing...

      The best keyword have 889 searches in last month on Bing..

      I'm getting only 20-30 clicks daily..

      I'll try some women marketing... Thanks friend!!

      Originally Posted by brennonhawkins View Post

      Without seeing much of what is actually going on the only reason I can think of for the 0% conversion rate would be the keywords you used in your campaigns.

      You may also need to target your traffic and be more precise. Think about who would actually want to buy. Obviously it's a dating product so the ideal candidate would be a single male between 18-30 that would lean more towards the "geek" side.

      A quick tip: try marketing to women. They are easier to sell to, especially online.

      No offence to the women of the forum. It's just a fact of life
      No i got 1% conversion with my website, getting some SEO traffic.

      But with PPC Traffic = 0% conversion.

      Thanks!

      Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

      Or about a million other variables.

      Keep doing that. Does 1% produce a return on your investment?
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    Originally Posted by halk View Post

    Now i'm trying direct linking with PPC Bing Ads.
    That's why you're not making any sales.

    Originally Posted by halk View Post

    I tried other product too with 300 clicks and 0 sells....
    I'm not surprised at all.

    I don't know whether what you're promoting is actually a "ClickBank product", but it sounds like a "ClickBank-type product", anyway? An informational ebook/course, or something similar? In which case I'd start here, paying particular attention to the third of the three points, because for most people that's the difference between "income" and "no sales": http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7110523

    You need your own landing-page (not necessarily a squeeze page: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post9319964 ) and you need to collect the email addresses of your visitors.

    Here's the thing: to earn significant money from affiliate marketing, you need to do three things ...

    (i) Keep your potential customers returning to the sales page (because not so many people buy anthing much at their first visit to a sales page, as mentioned above!);

    (ii) Make increasing sales (ideally at progressively higher prices) to the same "captive audience" who regularly rely on and trust your recommendations;

    (iii) Establish the credibility and trust necessary to do both the above by earning's people respect as a provider of niche-related information.

    Without building lists, of course, you can't do any of the three and you'd just be throwing away almost all the traffic you ever generate that doesn't buy anything immediately.

    You'd just be trying to fill the bath by opening the taps fully but without bothering to put the plug in the hole first. What kind of way to run a business would that be?

    For most people, most of the time, it's just about as simple as that, overall.

    These three threads are more informative ...

    Is it a good idea to spend some time on building a mailing list ?

    Without Building a List, How Consistent is Your Income from Affiliate Marketing

    Does anyone even make money online without an email list?



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    • Profile picture of the author halk
      I know the right way is create squeeze page/landing.

      But i want fast money for after i create some squeezes pages and earn long term.

      The problem is that, create lists is for long term.

      Anyway thanks!

      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      That's why you're not making any sales.



      I'm not surprised at all.

      I don't know whether what you're promoting is actually a "ClickBank product", but it sounds like a "ClickBank-type product", anyway? An informational ebook/course, or something similar? In which case I'd start here, paying particular attention to the third of the three points, because for most people that's the difference between "income" and "no sales": http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7110523

      You need your own landing-page (not necessarily a squeeze page: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post9319964 ) and you need to collect the email addresses of your visitors.

      Here's the thing: to earn significant money from affiliate marketing, you need to do three things ...

      (i) Keep your potential customers returning to the sales page (because not so many people buy anthing much at their first visit to a sales page, as mentioned above!);

      (ii) Make increasing sales (ideally at progressively higher prices) to the same "captive audience" who regularly rely on and trust your recommendations;

      (iii) Establish the credibility and trust necessary to do both the above by earning's people respect as a provider of niche-related information.

      Without building lists, of course, you can't do any of the three and you'd just be throwing away almost all the traffic you ever generate that doesn't buy anything immediately.

      You'd just be trying to fill the bath by opening the taps fully but without bothering to put the plug in the hole first. What kind of way to run a business would that be?

      For most people, most of the time, it's just about as simple as that, overall.

      These three threads are more informative ...

      Is it a good idea to spend some time on building a mailing list ?

      Without Building a List, How Consistent is Your Income from Affiliate Marketing

      Does anyone even make money online without an email list?



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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by halk View Post

        The problem is that, create lists is for long term.
        No - sorry, but you have this all wrong. It's for the short-term, also!

        Originally Posted by halk View Post

        i want fast money
        That makes it MORE important to have a landing page, not less important.

        Nobody much buys any of those digital, informational products at their first visit to their sales pages, and if you don't have your own opt-in page before sending them there, their first visit to it will also be their last visit to it.

        How are you going to make any sales, that way?

        Don't imagine that the purpose of collecting the visitors' email addresses is just "to sell them other stuff later". You need them to make the first sale, too, for the "fast money".


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        Originally Posted by halk View Post

        I know the right way is create squeeze page/landing.

        But i want fast money for after i create some squeezes pages and earn long term.

        The problem is that, create lists is for long term.

        Anyway thanks!
        That's not exactly true (about listbuilding only being necessary for the long-term). The big problem I see here is that the page has a long sales video, and it probably doesn't even have video controls, so that will result in many people closing the website out of impatience which then leads to poor conversion rates.

        You can throw up a simple squeeze page and then redirect them immediately to the video. This way you can have their emails and follow up with them, instead of losing them completely when they decide not to watch that long sales video.
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        • Profile picture of the author halk
          Exact!

          Is long video and i think the people not have patience to watch that video lol...

          Originally Posted by paulie888 View Post

          That's not exactly true (about listbuilding only being necessary for the long-term). The big problem I see here is that the page has a long sales video, and it probably doesn't even have video controls, so that will result in many people closing the website out of impatience which then leads to poor conversion rates.

          You can throw up a simple squeeze page and then redirect them immediately to the video. This way you can have their emails and follow up with them, instead of losing them completely when they decide not to watch that long sales video.
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      Originally Posted by halk View Post

      ... The monthly searches is very low, i get low traffic but i'm not converting

      I already selled 12 copies of that product in my landing... (with about 1% conversion rate).. Now i'm trying direct linking with PPC Bing Ads.

      I got 120 clicks and 0 leads

      I tried other product too with 300 clicks and 0 sells....

      I'm using prosper202 to tracking the keywords, but i don't getting any sells...
      Hi halk;

      I'm surprised that although the monthly searches are "very low" you sold 12 copies. If however your landing page made those conversions I would scale up more traffic to the landing page.

      When I was using PPC to drive traffic, even if I got opt ins or sales I was not making any profit. The sales did not cover the cost of ads, I was losing money.

      In the absence of having my own list, solo ads gave me higher conversion rates and profit.

      However, the important factor was I began using a sales funnel which offered a free product in exchange for the visitor's email address, a relevant low priced product and other relevant products at higher prices.

      By the time the visitor got through the sales funnel I had an email address to start building my own list in order to do follow up emails; and one or more sales which covered the cost of my ads and generated profit.

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          Originally Posted by rseigel View Post

          If this forum had an ignore feature you'd be the first to go. Since it doesn't - I'll just leave.
          Your information's as accurate as ever, Ron: the forum does have an ignore feature. I'm about to add you to my list, maybe you should do the same for me, if you object to my posts so much?

          If you'd seen that user's former "posts", you'd understand why I spoke as I did.

          He's one of the people whose fatuous nonsense is destroying this forum and driving most of the longstanding members away. (That's why the forum's traffic is at an all-time low.)

          And you'd be wondering why on Earth the forum's management doesn't kick him out, or at least try to change his behavior, as they rightly would have done at any time in the past, before the change of ownership.

          And if you were aware of this situation, you'd understand some of my anger about these situations, too.

          However, you were quite right that my tone was aggressive.

          To use the "ignore feature": click on "User CP" (top left), then on "Edit Options" and then scroll down to the section headed "Settings & Options" and click on "Edit Ignore List". And don't say that I never tell you anything helpful.

          Originally Posted by kcbowman View Post

          Alexa, I know it should be avoided because I tested out in the real world. But why?

          Why didn't targeted cold traffic buy from a proven sales page?
          The short answer is that there just isn't a reason why targeted cold traffic would buy that kind of product from a first visit to a sales page. In a little more detail, a major component of "what makes people buy" is (a) multiple exposure to the sales page (which can effectively be brought about only by list-building) and (b) the pre-selling (the extent of the trust-based relationship between the prospective customer and the person doing the recommending of the product). What determines "which traffic buys", when they hit the sales page, is mostly about what's happened with them before they click on it. Which is why direct-linking, basically, "doesn't work".

          For ClickBank products, more here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post7110523

          For Amazon products, more here (very good, long thread: worth a careful read): http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6608638

          But it's basically all the same thing, really: affiliate marketing is affiliate marketing. It's a relationship-building business based on email marketing.

          The people who are pretending otherwise aren't making their livings through affiliate marketing at all: they making their livings (if at all) by selling "nonsense-guidebooks" and "nonsense-coaching-services" to complete beginners. That's easy money for them, and it's typically the only way they can earn anything worth talking about.



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            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            Your information's as accurate as ever, Ron: the forum does have an ignore feature. I'm about to add you to my list, maybe you should do the same for me, if you object to my posts so much?

            If you'd seen that user's former posts, you'd understand why I spoke as I did. And if you were aware of this situation, you'd understand some of my anger, too.

            However, you were quite right that my tone was aggressive.

            To use the "ignore feature": click on "User CP" (top left), then on "Edit Options" and then scroll down to the section headed "Settings & Options" and click on "Edit Ignore List". And don't say that I never tell you anything helpful.


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              Originally Posted by rseigel View Post

              Going there right now. Thanks for that last (ever) piece of advice.
              Ron,
              Not sure why you are being so aggressive towards a another long standing member concerning a Post that was not even directed at you.

              As Lexy said there is ongoing history behind her comment towards this Member. And which you evidently do not know about.

              You are trying to surmise a situation which you do not understand the Context of it.



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            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            He's one of the people whose fatuous nonsense is destroying this forum and driving most of the longstanding members away. (That's why the forum's traffic is at an all-time low.)
            The people that answer them have to accept half the blame too.
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              Originally Posted by lgibbon View Post

              The people that answer them have to accept half the blame too.
              I'm afraid you make rather a good point, here, as so often.

              The alternative (of ignoring them and just allowing them completely to take over the forum and drive away all the few remaining longstanding members, without even commenting/protesting at all) frustrates and irritates me, though.

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                Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                I'm afraid you make rather a good point, here, as so often.

                The alternative (of ignoring them and just allowing them completely to take over the forum and drive away all the few remaining longstanding members, without even commenting/protesting at all) frustrates and irritates me, though.

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                There's always the report button.
                If enough people reported the junk instead of answering it,
                a lot of it might just vanish.
                There's someone that answers just about every thread, everyday,
                with mindless one liners.
                My guess is there's only one person reporting it, so it carries on.
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                • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                  Originally Posted by lgibbon View Post

                  There's always the report button.
                  I've been a keen user of that, until about 3-4 days ago, when I suddenly completely stopped, just in exasperation that it seems to do no good at all.

                  Originally Posted by lgibbon View Post

                  If enough people reported the junk instead of answering it, a lot of it might just vanish.
                  True; true. Well, you're right, of course. And Alaister kindly reduced the reports flood interval to 10 seconds, late last night, to make it easier to report stuff, so I feel obliged to start again, anyway, really.

                  I started "answering it" the same 3 days ago because I was so frustrated at not reporting it.

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  • Profile picture of the author YourBizAid
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    Get a high converting Landing Page built for you first. Send traffic to the page and collect your visitor's contact details. Market the same product to them later, over and over again and you will definitely see conversions spike up.

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  • Profile picture of the author kcbowman
    High converting landing pages + cold targeted keyword traffic does not equal sales. '

    I've tried this the last few days. I copied the entire HTML sales page of one of the best converting Click Bank products and sent 600 people there using google display network for 72 bucks. linked directly to the cart instead of using a hop link so I could just use their sales page. They keywords were definitely targeted to the niche.

    I got 0 sales. There has to be some sort of opt in or warm up process in order to sale. No matter how great the landing page is.
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      Originally Posted by kcbowman View Post

      High converting landing pages + cold targeted keyword traffic does not equal sales. '

      I've tried this the last few days. I copied the entire HTML sales page of one of the best converting Click Bank products and sent 600 people there using google display network for 72 bucks. linked directly to the cart instead of using a hop link so I could just use their sales page. They keywords were definitely targeted to the niche.

      I got 0 sales. There has to be some sort of opt in or warm up process in order to sale. No matter how great the landing page is.
      Is the google display network showing ads on sites monetized using Adsense? I thought that Google didn't allow people to promote Clickbank products directly in that way straight to a sales page.

      You can make sales by direct linking because I did it a few months ago selling digital products, but the conversion rate isn't good.
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    Here is what I did.

    There is a way to create a link that goes directly to the cart in click bank.


    I then went and found one of the highest converting products on click bank.

    I opened their landing page right clicked and selected view source. I copied the code into dreamweaver which gave me their exact sales page. I then went through and replaced all of the download links with my cart link so I had a complete mirror of their sales page, but with my own sales link.

    I uploaded this webpage to my own domain.

    I then sent the display network traffic directly to the sales page. I spent 5 hours combing through a list of 3000 keywords that were targeted to the niche. Created banners that give me .2% ctr consistently and sent 600 people to the sales page at $.13 a click in a day.

    0 Sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author kcbowman
    Alexa, I know it should be avoided because I tested out in the real world. But why?

    Why didn't targeted cold traffic buy from a proven sales page?
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    halk, must take at least a look at your landing page. Otherwise it would be just guessing.
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  • Profile picture of the author halk
    Thanks all for answers!

    But, i dont know how many people earning with affiliate products with direct linking... and some people say it is hard, i can earn only with landing page...

    Why i need one landing page? All landing pages created by owner is low quality?
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      Originally Posted by halk View Post

      Why i need one landing page? All landing pages created by owner is low quality?
      No. It's not just about the quality of the vendors' sales pages.

      It's primarily for all the reasons explained in post #7 above (and throughout the five other threads linked to in that post, where large numbers of successful affiliates explain them all). Respectfully, it's going to be of very limited value to you, to repeat the question again, when the answers have all been provided by so many people making their living this way, but you haven't yet read them.


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      • Profile picture of the author halk
        Thanks Alexa!

        I have great squeeze page here, i think i`ll try to get some subscribers...

        My problem i dont have much money now, to start some email marketing service... I think i`ll try getresponse.. have 30 days trial... what you think?

        Another question, you have some tutorials for me, for example:

        What i write on "welcome email"? Some text with my affliate link?

        And after, 1 email per day?

        Thanks!!

        Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

        No. It's not just about the quality of the vendors' sales pages.

        It's primarily for all the reasons explained in post #7 above (and throughout the five other threads linked to in that post, where large numbers of successful affiliates explain them all). Respectfully, it's going to be of very limited value to you, to repeat the question again, when the answers have all been provided by so many people making their living this way, but you haven't yet read them.


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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by halk View Post

          My problem i dont have much money now, to start some email marketing service... I think i`ll try getresponse.. have 30 days trial... what you think?
          I think it's one of the best ones.

          Yes, it's "first month free", and then $15 per month. I suggest you start the "free month" only on the day that you actually need it, so as not to waste any of it. Get everything else ready first?

          Originally Posted by halk View Post

          Another question, you have some tutorials for me, for example:
          I don't, at all; but I can show you 6 threads which have been helpful to others and - between them - cover most of the basics of email marketing and will at least fill you in on all the main concepts.

          Here they are ...
          What are the essential things to know about list building?
          Lists: How Long to Presell - Averages
          Website or squeeze page
          Where to get reports to give away on opt in page?
          Autoresponders vs. Broadcasts
          Sick of Emails Not Being Opened?


          Originally Posted by halk View Post

          What i write on "welcome email"? Some text with my affliate link?
          For myself, I don't give them the first affiliate link until the third email. But there are no "right answers" to this. It's just whatever seems to work for you. And I know there are people here who do put an affiliate link in the first or second email.

          In the first email, I give them the download-link to the "free report" I offered them in exchange for their email addresses, and just some introductory stuff to try to brand myself a bit, and build up my credibility and encourage them to trust me. And in the second email, just "niche information" (like an article, really). And then a promotion in the third message.

          Originally Posted by halk View Post

          And after, 1 email per day?
          Again, there's no "right answer"! I send email on days 1, 3, 6, 10, 15 and therafter at 5-day intervals, and I include a product-recommendation (with my affiliate link) in the second part of one email out of every three.

          If I send email more often than that, or if I promote stuff more often than that, I actually earn less money, overall. So I do it more slowly. But it doesn't necessarily follow that that will also be true for you! Those 6 threads above discuss everything like this.

          I think the single most important ingredient in the recipe is that the "free report" you give people, in exchange for their email address, needs to do all these things. If you get off to a good start, with that, you're more likely to do well.

          There's loads more information in the Email Marketing Forum, too.


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          • Profile picture of the author halk
            Thanks again for your answer Alexa...

            Can you give one example of report, for example, i think i'll try Weight Loss Niche, in my country have several products on it... And the competition is very low

            How i'll create free report for that niche? Say one example, thanks!!

            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            I think it's one of the best ones.

            Yes, it's "first month free", and then $15 per month. I suggest you start the "free month" only on the day that you actually need it, so as not to waste any of it. Get everything else ready first?

            I don't, at all; but I can show you 6 threads which have been helpful to others and - between them - cover most of the basics of email marketing and will at least fill you in on all the main concepts.

            Here they are ...
            What are the essential things to know about list building?
            Lists: How Long to Presell - Averages
            Website or squeeze page
            Where to get reports to give away on opt in page?
            Autoresponders vs. Broadcasts
            Sick of Emails Not Being Opened?




            For myself, I don't give them the first affiliate link until the third email. But there are no "right answers" to this. It's just whatever seems to work for you. And I know there are people here who do put an affiliate link in the first or second email.

            In the first email, I give them the download-link to the "free report" I offered them in exchange for their email addresses, and just some introductory stuff to try to brand myself a bit, and build up my credibility and encourage them to trust me. And in the second email, just "niche information" (like an article, really). And then a promotion in the third message.



            Again, there's no "right answer"! I send email on days 1, 3, 6, 10, 15 and therafter at 5-day intervals, and I include a product-recommendation (with my affiliate link) in the second part of one email out of every three.

            If I send email more often than that, or if I promote stuff more often than that, I actually earn less money, overall. So I do it more slowly. But it doesn't necessarily follow that that will also be true for you! Those 6 threads above discuss everything like this.

            I think the single most important ingredient in the recipe is that the "free report" you give people, in exchange for their email address, needs to do all these things. If you get off to a good start, with that, you're more likely to do well.

            There's loads more information in the Email Marketing Forum, too.


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            • Profile picture of the author onSubie
              Originally Posted by halk View Post

              How i'll create free report for that niche? Say one example, thanks!!
              You want to create something that is useful to your subscribers but does not undermine sales of the product.

              For example, if the product was a weight loss eating plan, you would not make a weight loss meal plan your "freebie". But if the paid product was an exercise plan then a simple meal plan might be a good freebie.

              A good freebie for weight loss is a short tips type report like: "10 secret weight loss tips that do not need exercise" or "10 super foods in every diet that help shed pounds"

              Something that is easy to provide value and easy to cross promote your paid offer with.

              You want a freebie that:
              - Provides value of some kind (10 good tips almost always does this)
              - Helps build a relationship and trust with your list (personalize the tips and use each as an opportunity to motivate and engage)
              - Makes it easy to introduce paid solutions/offers (Some tips should naturally lead to a paid product to help/enhance the solution)

              Edit: Just a thought. If sending a bunch of paid traffic straight to salespage worked then why would the vendor need affiliates??
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              • Profile picture of the author halk
                Thanks for your answer friend!

                My paid traffic not worked, i used direct linking..

                I'm selling on my landing page with Google SEO, but i have very low traffic because my post still on page #2.

                About how to create one report, i'll try that what you said!

                Thanks friend!!

                Originally Posted by onSubie View Post

                You want to create something that is useful to your subscribers but does not undermine sales of the product.

                For example, if the product was a weight loss eating plan, you would not make a weight loss meal plan your "freebie". But if the paid product was an exercise plan then a simple meal plan might be a good freebie.

                A good freebie for weight loss is a short tips type report like: "10 secret weight loss tips that do not need exercise" or "10 super foods in every diet that help shed pounds"

                Something that is easy to provide value and easy to cross promote your paid offer with.

                You want a freebie that:
                - Provides value of some kind (10 good tips almost always does this)
                - Helps build a relationship and trust with your list (personalize the tips and use each as an opportunity to motivate and engage)
                - Makes it easy to introduce paid solutions/offers (Some tips should naturally lead to a paid product to help/enhance the solution)

                Edit: Just a thought. If sending a bunch of paid traffic straight to salespage worked then why would the vendor need affiliates??
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by selfdisciplineacademy View Post

      > Affiliate Offers on Thank You Page
      That's something I always avoid, myself.

      It costs me a lot of money (I used to do it, but have tested it a lot, and stopped, like so many people who have tested it for themselves.)

      I suspect there's quite a bit of misguided thinking about, on this subject.

      It's worth bearing in mind that it's possible to make the occasional quick sale that way and still lose a lot of money overall.

      Here's the key concept: the few people who will buy anything, that way, are all people who would have bought it in a week's time anyway, after receiving some email from you, so there's no real gain. But many other people, who would otherwise have bought it a week or two later, will be alienated by it, because of course it makes you look like "just another marketer", so if I did that, I'd expect a much lower open-rate for my emails than I actually get.

      Right after the opt-in, I promote nothing. For me, it would be a big mistake to do that. As people who have split-tested it themselves tend to have discovered (and we tend to be the ones who quickly abandon the idea, once we've thoroughly tested it for ourselves. )

      For myself, I use the thank you page to give clear instructions, both in words and in pictures, on what subscribers (two groups: "gmail users" and "others") need to do, themselves, in order to be sure of receiving my emails in their in-boxes. Without doing this, my open-rates are significantly lower - and I certainly don't want anything else distracting from that, because it's what the bulk of my future income depends on, and long-term future income is the whole point of building the list in the first place?


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  • Profile picture of the author WarTiger
    I have always better results when I am using my landing page
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  • Profile picture of the author AaronBurton
    Always do a capture page. You will lose leads by direct linking. BUT...I do know a guy making 300k a month from direct linking to CPA offers so I guess its doable.
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  • Profile picture of the author kcbowman
    pick one of the benefites mentioned by the niche vendor, then google search 4-5 articles on that one benefit. Copy all of the articles over into a word document, then reword them, organize them, and a personal opinion to it. Turn it into a pdf document. Then you will have a unique free report that other people haven't already seen. It could be a simple 1 page report.
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    • Profile picture of the author halk
      Thanks!

      How about the conversion rate about getting visitors/subscribers using PPC like Bing Ads?

      Originally Posted by kcbowman View Post

      pick one of the benefites mentioned by the niche vendor, then google search 4-5 articles on that one benefit. Copy all of the articles over into a word document, then reword them, organize them, and a personal opinion to it. Turn it into a pdf document. Then you will have a unique free report that other people haven't already seen. It could be a simple 1 page report.
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  • Profile picture of the author kcbowman
    My conversion rate are terrible. About 1.4% on the display network. I just bought a book and read over it on creating a better squeeze page by Mark Loftis. He is selling it on this forum. I love getting products on this forum there are real reviews.
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    • Profile picture of the author halk
      Bad conversion friend, i see here that guy have more than 60% conversion rate oO

      100 clicks and 60 subscribers it is very nice

      But i dont know if it is real...

      Originally Posted by kcbowman View Post

      My conversion rate are terrible. About 1.4% on the display network. I just bought a book and read over it on creating a better squeeze page by Mark Loftis. He is selling it on this forum. I love getting products on this forum there are real reviews.
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  • Profile picture of the author Parry
    If you create a landing page it is always going to work better than direct linking. The only reason direct linking is used is the save time and money, though it may not work as well as a landing page. A landing page can be tested and tweaked according to results and can perform even better.
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    • Profile picture of the author halk
      Yes but the problem my landing page i can't change because is optimized to Google SEO... I think i need create one only for PPC traffic right?

      How i create landing page to PPC traffic? Is review?

      Originally Posted by Parry View Post

      If you create a landing page it is always going to work better than direct linking. The only reason direct linking is used is the save time and money, though it may not work as well as a landing page. A landing page can be tested and tweaked according to results and can perform even better.
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  • Profile picture of the author ProServices
    Landing page always works for me.
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