Who is the owner, need to find out, your help appreciated

Vikuna2009+

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Vikuna2009+

Hi all warriors,

I've come across a business that has at least 150 outlets and a thought struck my mind. I KNOW that with my advice, they could make TONS of more money. I'm not sure if it is a franchise or one sole owner and have no clue how to figure it out.

How should I go about it? Your help is greatly appreciated, thank you.

Gosh, now I REALLY feel like a troll.....

Googled the darned thing and yes, it is a franchise. BTW, why do I feel so COMMITED to you that I have to ask here FIRST

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talfighel

15 years ago

Just enter the name of the company in Google and it will show you results on where this company is located. It can even show you on their website.

Tal

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Zachary R. Skinner

15 years ago

Just out of curiosity, what were you planning on helping them with?

More than likely you are correct and they could benefit from your knowledge.

The tricky part is actually getting to talk with an important decision maker.

Try this:

Find an email address for one of their managers and tell them that you are highly paid consultant who is willing to work at substantially discounted rate in exchange for a testimonial for your website.

You should at least be able to get their attention!

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Vikuna2009+

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Zachary R. Skinner

Just out of curiosity, what were you planning on helping them with?

More than likely you are correct and they could benefit from your knowledge.

The tricky part is actually getting to talk with an important decision maker.

Try this:

Find an email address for one of their managers and tell them that you are highly paid consultant who is willing to work at substantially discounted rate in exchange for a testimonial for your website.

You should at least be able to get their attention!

They already have websites and they are NICE (no opt-in form though). It is a restaurant chain and it has to do with Google Maps. They are not taking advantage of it to the fullest. They got some good stuff on there but could do so much better.

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Richard Tunnah 15 years ago

The problem you get with larger organisations like mentioned is there are usually so many 'gatekeepers', then a marketing manger/guy/department that may be paid to be useless online.
So go for it. But have a plan how to reach the owner/ceo.

Good luck.

Rich
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Alexa Smith

Banned 15 years ago

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Richard Tunnah

15 years ago

Originally Posted by alexa_s

It's an interesting approach.

For myself, I wouldn't dream if making an initial approach by email, nor of referring to my pay-level, nor of offering discounts, nor of starting up an initial conversation with a suggestion that I'm "testimonial-seeking": I'd be too concerned that these would immediately get me dismissed or even ridiculed. Sorry, I promise I don't mean it rudely at all, but this would be a really bizarre approach to any company with 150 retail outlets, whatever it is!

Alexa,
Why is asking for a testimonial bizarre from a business owner? Business owners will recommend services they use and like.

Rich

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Vikuna2009+

15 years ago

Originally Posted by alexa_s

It's an interesting approach.

For myself, I wouldn't dream of making an initial approach by email, nor of referring to my pay-level, nor of offering discounts, nor of starting up an initial conversation with a suggestion that I'm "testimonial-seeking": I'd be too concerned that these would immediately get me dismissed or even ridiculed. Sorry, I promise I don't mean it rudely at all, but this would be a really bizarre approach to any company with 150 retail outlets, whatever it is!

I used to work in the restaurant business (long time ago though, lol). I think what I will do is to go and visit one, have a nice meal and then ask for the manager.

Have a little chit chat and see what comes up. Any other thoughts?

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Killer Joe

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Vikuna2009+

Hi all warriors,

I've come across a business that has at least 150 outlets and a thought struck my mind. I KNOW that with my advice, they could make TONS of more money. I'm not sure if it is a franchise or one sole owner and have no clue how to figure it out.

How should I go about it? Your help is greatly appreciated, thank you.

Generally, this is a sign that you don't know what you don't know. I don't mean that in a bad way, but assuming that you can have a major impact on their bottom line without knowing very much about the business says more about your lack of knowledge than it does about your prowess.

Ask any monday morning quarterback about how the team should have played the game and you better have brought your lunch. It's easy to pretend you have the answers when you don't know the proper questions.

Businesses don't grow to be this large because they're run by idiots. Statements like "I KNOW that with my advice, they could make TONS of more money" rarely have any validity. But they do speak volumes about your thought proccesses.

Perhaps going forward, the next time you think you see an opportunity ask yourself the question "What do I need to know about this business before I can make any predictions about my abilities to help them?"

Going in blind is a sure fire way to leave with your tail tucked between your legs. When consulting for businesses you need to be able to discern the symptoms from the diseases. Many times they have the same outward appearence, and it's only once you are allowed into the bowels of the operation that you can determine which is which. Guessing from afar is folly at best.

I would suggest that if you are serious about helping businesses with their web presence you become familiar with the term 'due diligence'. It's obvious from your posts that concept is a little foreign to you at this point. Again, I don't mean that in a bad way, we all have to start somewhere.

Enthusiasm is great, but knowledge, true knowledge of what a company needs to "make TONS of more money" starts with knowing what questions to ask. Not by believing they are missing something or believing "that with my advice" something magical will happen to their bottom line.

And for the record, forget who the owner is, you need to find who has been delegated the authority to handle your questions. If you go over that persons' head improperly you'll never get a chance at the pitch.

Now, let's take this from the top...

KJ

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Vikuna2009+

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Killer Joe

Generally, this is a sign that you don't know what you don't know. I don't mean that in a bad way, but assuming that you can have a major impact on their bottom line without knowing very much about the business says more about your lack of knowledge than it does about your prowess.

Ask any monday morning quarterback about how the team should have played the game and you better have brought your lunch. It's easy to pretend you have the answers when you don't know the proper questions.

Businesses don't grow to be this large because they're run by idiots. Statements like "I KNOW that with my advice, they could make TONS of more money" rarely have any validity. But they do speak volumes about your thought proccesses.

Perhaps going forward, the next time you think you see an opportunity ask yourself the question "What do I need to know about this business before I can make any predictions about my abilities to help them?"

Going in blind is a sure fire way to leave with your tail tucked between your legs. When consulting for businesses you need to be able to discern the symptoms from the diseases. Many times they have the same outward appearence, and it's only once you are allowed into the bowls of the operation that you can determine which is which. Guessing from afar is folly at best.

I would suggest that if you are serious about helping businesses with their web presence you become familiar with the term 'due diligence'. It's obvious from your posts that concept is a little foreign to you at this point. Again, I don't mean that in a bad way, we all have to start somewhere.

Enthusiasm is great, but knowledge, true knowledge of what a company needs to "make TONS of more money" starts with knowing what questions to ask. Not by believing they are missing something or believing "that with my advice" something magical will happen to their bottom line.

And for the record, forget who the owner is, you need to find who has been deligated the authority to handle your questions. If you go over that persons' head improperly you'll never get a chance at the pitch.

Now, let's take this from the top...

KJ

Thank you for your response, I see your point. However, I did mention that I used to work in the restaurant business for many years so I do know one thing or another. I guess that is my 'due diligence', lol.

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Killer Joe

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Vikuna2009+

Thank you for your response, I see your point. However, I did mention that I used to work in the restaurant business for many years so I do know one thing or another. I guess that is my 'due diligence', lol.

Yea, me too. I worked at McDonalds in the '60s.

Repeat after me..."Do you want frys with that?"

That phrase may come in handy one day...

KJ

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Vikuna2009+ 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Killer Joe

Yea, me too. I worked at McDonalds in the '60s.

Repeat after me..."Do you want frys with that?"

That phrase may come in handy one day...

KJ

No, it wasn't Mc Donalds but nice try...
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Will Edwards 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Killer Joe

Yea, me too. I worked at McDonalds in the '60s.

Repeat after me..."Do you want frys with that?"

That phrase may come in handy one day...

KJ

Rarely do I use the acronym 'LOL' when laughing out loud, but this time it's true!

Will
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engr.adeel

15 years ago

just enter the name of company in google and see the results what google gives. Also u have to chat and find answers of all the questions that are in your mind.

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sunsoftsystem

15 years ago

Simply search the name of company in Google, Yahoo, MSN or any search site and see the results what it gives. Then you have to find answers of all the questions that you have in your mind.

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Randy Meirndorf 15 years ago

Well, if it's a franchise, the best thing to do is find out if the store your targeting has a franchisee or is corporate owned. If it's a franchisee, check with your local chamber of commerce and you can get the contact info.

Most franchisee's know the other franchisee's in their area and if your service is good, ask them for a recommendation. That would be a good way to get your foot in the door with the company.
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