$2,500 Budget To Build List. So many options. So confusing!!

9 years ago

well, you are right to pause for a bit. you have a lot of real questions that you need to get figured out first.

I guess, my first question is what is your end game? meaning what do you plan to do with this list once you get it? that will drastically affect your system and how you should approach this.

a 2k list doesnt print money...it can, but thats not the norm going with some variation of the plan you have outlined above.

you really need a more comprehensive plan in my opinion much more than you need an answer to one single question you asked here.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by crendon2854

Do i really need to spend $2,500 to get at least 2,000 subscribers in 30 days?

No. You should try smaller amounts until you find something that looks promising. If I was looking for a bunch of subscribers I'd try Facebook first, we've had good luck there and we only spend a few dollars a day.

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Jonathan Henson 9 years ago

Facebook ads would be your best bet to start with if you want a QUICK responsive list. However, start small, test, and scale it up (you're in no hurry to fail).

In the meantime, consider putting your own WSO product together, find a good JV partner, and release it as a $7 WSO with two upsells. Use some of your money on a JV contest page to attract affiliates so they can sell your product. You will get all the emails on your buyer's list. Now that's a responsive list!

With 2,500 dollars to begin with, you can do a lot of damage and set yourself up pretty nicely in a short amount of time.
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  If I set up an ad on FB to drive traffic to my site. Can I expect clicks at less or around .50 cents per click? Or will some type of FB ads training be needed to get those pennies per clicks i hear people are getting?
  
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9 years ago

Well the main thing i would suggest is instead of trying to grow your list fast, is to make sure your funnel converts. That $2500 could be gone in a matter of weeks, even days from solo ads if you do'nt know your funnel converts or not.

So yeah definately test with small packages and buy from reputable sellers, test and tweak and if you see success you can scale.

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Adrianhenry

9 years ago

you definitely want to start small and work from there. Test and track everything. Buy solo ads from different vendors and track the clicks and conversions through the funnel from each solo ad provider. Same goes for facebooks ads. Track everything. Keep tweaking the funnel until you have something that you know is converting then scale it up.

You can easily get a 2k list within your budget but just having a list of 2k people is worthless unless it is a quality list of people that are going to convert for you over and over

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crendon2854

9 years ago

FB list building sounds promising, as long as it's not a huge learning curve. Will I be sending traffic straight to my squeeze page? As if i were doing a solo ad?

Could I go with say $100 worth of clicks delivered asap on FB? Testing, tweaking and more tweaking is for dam sure. Thanks for the replies!!

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RealCasher

9 years ago

I am currently building a list via fb ads, and it's really expensive: .50-$1.5 per subscriber..

Your best bet is to make a small list first (300 - 500 subs), make some profits from OTOs and emails, and continue building your list for free (from profits)

I don't recommand adswaps and clickbanking tough.

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Edwin Torres

9 years ago

I've bought my fair share of solo ads, and the quality of subscribers you get from them aren't the best. Invest $100 or so in solo ad traffic and see how many sales you get. I would also recommend venturing into other traffic sources.

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Brent Stangel

9 years ago

Could I go with say $100 worth of clicks delivered asap?

Where has the traffic come from to test your squeeze page?

Traffic source can make a huge difference even with the same targeting. Test small ads with different traffic sources. Never roll out big unless you have a thoroughly tested funnel that converts consistently.

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9 years ago

I meant on FB. If i could drive traffic to my squeeze page. And spend $100 asap option. I think that's an option on FB if i remember correctly.(to deliver $100 worth of clicks asap). I've read both FB being and not being good for list building. That's messed up to come by as a newbie.

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David Keith

9 years ago

You still never said what your longer term plan is....you just keep talking about numbers of subscribers. That a terrible measure of success by the way.

You are getting conflicting advice about solo ads and fb because some people have good systems setup to monetize a traffic source and some people have bad systems for a particular traffic source....or even ad for that matter.

It's a system....not a traffic source that's makes the deal work or not work.

And fb and solo ad traffic is being about as specific as saying males or females. Solo ad providers quality are all over the map. And likewise, fb advertising has a learning curve with targeting and such that will eat your lunch at first in all likely hood.

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crendon2854

9 years ago

Originally Posted by David Keith

You still never said what your longer term plan is....you just keep talking about numbers of subscribers. That a terrible measure of success by the way.

You are getting conflicting advice about solo ads and fb because some people have good systems setup to monetize a traffic source and some people have bad systems for a particular traffic source....or even ad for that matter.

It's a system....not a traffic source that's makes the deal work or not work.

And fb and solo ad traffic is being about as specific as saying males or females. Solo ad providers quality are all over the map. And likewise, fb advertising has a learning curve with targeting and such that will eat your lunch at first in all likely hood.

All the training I've received has been on solo ads business. My long term plan would be to create a solo ad list that i can monetize. I see a lot of people with a good solo ad system.

I know solo ads sources could be terrible if not being careful where you purchase from, like you say it could be from all over the place. Researching the source correctly will make it or break it im sure.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by crendon2854

All the training I've received has been on solo ads business. My long term plan would be to create a solo ad list that i can monetize. I see a lot of people with a good solo ad system.

I know solo ads sources could be terrible if not being careful where you purchase from, like you say it could be from all over the place. Researching the source correctly will make it or break it im sure.

Well as an Internet Marketer I would advise you to not put all of your eggs in one basket... I respect your plan but in my opinion alone solo ads is not a business to be honest and you can make tons of more money with your list with Solo Ads being a part time income.

Let's look at it this way. If you sell Solo Ads as your main business then you will book more than 1 spots per day (As the goal of the list will be to make more and more money) so ultimately this will force people to unsubscribe if they find 2-3 emails from you everyday on products or information which they are not interested.

Put yourself here as a Subscriber here. If someone will send you even 1 email everyday asking you for purchase this product and that product in which you will have no interest. What will you do with him? You will surely unsubscribe and never want to hear from that person again or get on any of his lists again. Right?

While on the other hand if you will build list and give them a value like occasionally free stuff and quality information to read then they will start having trust in you and you can make tons of more money than Solo Ads in long run.

Now as far as marketing methods are concerned. I would advise you to make separate lists first. 2-3 would be fine... Remember you can merge them later so there is nothing you will lose

On 1 list get subscribers from Solo Ads. On Second list get subscribers from facebook ads and on 3rd get subscribers from PPC or Search Display Advertising. Just spend wisely on ads. Per Day Spending $25 to $40 per ad swap is ok. Spending $10-$20 on FB Ads is ok and Spending $30-$40 on Search/Display Ads is fine... Just make sure you don't spend a more than a total of $100 each day.

Have the same Followups written for every list (3-4 would be fine with a break of a day or 2) and analyze which list is more responsive. I am sure you will know the answer pretty soon.

If you need more help please feel free to ask as there are tons of ways that you can brings subscribers.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by crendon2854

Another option i learned about, was to get 1,000 subscribers and then grow the list with ad swaps. Saving $1,000. So many ways to go about this. Stab stab stab..

Do i really need to spend $2,500 to get at least 2,000 subscribers in 30 days? Please help!

I personally, have never tried Swaps. But from what I have looked into they are a waste of time. Just a bunch of people sharing each others' email List so they can spam even more people.

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9 years ago

Originally Posted by crendon2854

I was interested in purchasing 2,500 worth of solo ads. But holding back for the moment till i a have a clearer plan.

I've been currently testing squeeze pages to get my opt in rate between 40-50%.

It seems that if i purchase 100 click solos, I would get more clicks overall from over delivery, rather than purchasing $500 or $1,000 solos. But then again i want to grow this list fast.

I'd really like to get to minimum 2,000 subscribers within 30 days minimum. I just don't know the best way to go about it.

My OTO's are 17-20dlls and I also have a high ticket 1,200 affiliate product on the back end.

Another option i learned about, was to get 1,000 subscribers and then grow the list with ad swaps. Saving $1,000. So many ways to go about this. Stab stab stab..

Do i really need to spend $2,500 to get at least 2,000 subscribers in 30 days? Please help!

Take my advice: avoid paying for traffic; instead build traffic platforms.

Having been at this for over 2 decades, you could say I'm part of the old brigade of online marketer. Instead of buying traffic, we prefer to own the traffic. It makes more sense. You have the traffic to generate income (affiliate offers, your own products), to grow other traffic platforms (websites, socials, etc), and to sell. But not only that, there's this: with traffic comes more traffic. Let's say you pay for 1,000 optins. Great. But that's it. 1,000. But if you get 1,000 FB followers, those will engage your content, spread it, and your 1,000 will become 1,500, 5,000, 10,000, 100,000, and so forth.

If you want my advice: use that money to grow some traffic platforms. You have a lot more than you need and you'll be a lot better off traffic-wise. Don't waste your money on solo ads, or anything else for that matter.

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selfdisciplineacademy

9 years ago

Don't spend it all straight away..

Your goal is to get to a point where..

You put $1 in, and get $2 out..

Test different funnels, offer until you hit instant returns within 15 days of getting a new subscriber you get money back..

For example, you purchase 500 clicks for $250...

Your goal is to take those (200 - 300) subscribers and make $250 back from them within 15 days..

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asamanthinketh

9 years ago

ROI is king. Focus on that & stop using solos - unless you have a quality vendor.

If you have time on your hands, learn Facebook PPC & Native - alternatively, have a pro set it up for you. Google Jerry Banfield, he does that. I've never used his service, but if his free tutorials are anything to go by, that guy definitely has his game on lock.

Learn to build funnels that convert man. $2,500 is a lot to work with - much, much more than what I'm working right now, building my business from scratch - you WILL SUCCEED if you put your mind to & pick the right advisors.

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maxsi

9 years ago

There are many solo-ads sellers on the internet, and your $2500 will finish soon.

1)) do some little tests to see if your funnel converts
2)) outsource your marketing campaigns to experts (save more $$$$ and make more $$$$)

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Gladiator

9 years ago

Find websites that are relevant to your offer. See if they offer "Advertise with us" somewhere on the their website. Call them or email them and get your banner on that website. Don't be afraid Negotiate.

Try several sites until you find one that converts better for you!

I know that few of you would want to use different platforms, Facebook, solo ads ect. but In my experience selecting your websites for ads works pretty darn good!

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Lucasp

9 years ago

I'm not sure that 'wanting to spend money' is the most effective way to approach this.

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Mike Hersh

9 years ago

$2,500 on solo ads isn't going the smartest money spend. You should think twice before spending your hard earned money on 10 tier crappy traffic source. Instead, get a short 10 page report created for $200, get a squeeze page created offering this report for free, promote a Clickbank product on your thank you page, and you'll find that if the product converts well, you get back your money very quickly, and even be in profit WHILE building your list.

I use Facebook ads, you can use banner ads, PPC, PPV, or whatever makes you feel more comfortable. Try to stay away from the IM niche as your email list will be burnt out before you even build it. Open rates are low, click through rates are low, you know the rest.

Even better... Invest the money in your own products & funnel, but that's obviously your decision :-)

Make sure to use double optin unlike solo ads, and make sure to offer VALUE!

Hope that helps...

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Andre Slater 9 years ago

Sounds like you've heard some guru tell you that a subscriber is worth at least a dollar and your probably thinking that is going to make you at least $2,000 a month right?

Well it's not about how many people you have on your list, it's the relationship you have with your list. The relationship sells not numbers.

To spend 2500 in one pop or most of it without testing is a waste of money...

It's not hard

1. Find something you like and passionate about
2. Make a squeeze page and give value in the niche you know...
3. Make a blog and blog daily on it.
4. Start small and test and start building list as you build relationship
5. Then you send the people on your list valuable content by sending them to your blog

Rinse and repeat.

Test (Squeeze)
Test (Emails)
Find out what blog post get most response and make more on that topic
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