If you were starting today

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Hi

I am kind of new to this forum although I have been a lurker for some time.

All of the posts are great but for a procrastinator like myself, they are also a grwat way to just keep reading and not take action.

So here is my dilemma:

I have read that many posts and journeys that seriously my head is spinning. Start a niche site (Easily said) write a kindle book or 2, fiverr, olance, ebay, affiliates.....

If you were to start your on-line money making today, what method would you use?

I am not looking to be spoon fed as I know that upsets a lot of contributors, but if you do know a particularly good strategy and don't mind posting the link too,

It's for me - not a friend I need to get started and would love to get up and running with something that would bring me in a few hundred extra each month, but at the moment I feel as though I am doing too many things that nothing is working.

Love to know your thoughts.
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  • Profile picture of the author simeon13
    i would get myself good offer to promote with competition and outsmart them create custom landing page and get traffic and i will start building list and making money
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  • Profile picture of the author hipman87
    I can massively sympathise SilverHoop, I am kind of in the same boat, information overload is easy to catch.

    The general concensus from what people have said to me is to do your best to try and find someone that you reasonate with and is having good success online, then just apply what they are doing. All the different areas of internet marketing can lead to success, it all depends though on what you feel your strengths are.

    Above all though it is important to just take action when you find the mentor, don't fall into the trap of just constantly moving from idea to idea.

    Hope this helps

    Gavin
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    This is what I would do. I suggest you do the same.

    Even after 21 years, I wouldn't do things much different:

    1. Decide on the one market I knew most and was most passionate about.
    2. Learn about web design, domains, affiliate marketing.
    3. Purchase the best available domain for my market (a domain of value).
    4. Put together a monetized authority site.
    5. Learn traffic generation and SEO.
    6. Grow traffic from free traffic channels.
    7. Monetize with free offers initially, then revhshare.
    8. Get into profitability.
    9. Outsource operations.
    10. Rinse, repeat.

    The above sounds simple. It really isn't. The more I coach, the more I understand even simple tasks for me are quite tricky for the newcomer. It can be done, though. Just takes work.

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    • Profile picture of the author Motivated Father
      These days, I really think people want to connect with other people more than anything else (versus corporate-style websites or anonymous information sites), so this is the direction I'm going to head anyway...

      Be public, honest, authentic, and build a business around a passion of yours. Attract people who resonate with you and your personality/message, and have an optimized funnel (or ten) that helps solve an emotional need they have.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ayawa
    Originally Posted by Silverhoop View Post


    If you were to start your on-line money making today, what method would you use?
    PTC, PTR........ Not shame to say, that's where I was started......
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  • Profile picture of the author James McAllister
    Welcome to the Warrior Forum.

    I would analyze your strengths and weaknesses, and build a business around your strengths. For example, if you're a good writer you may build a blog and use it to build an email list, or if you're analytical you may try your hand at CPA.

    Here's the thing - you'll want to stick to ONE method that's scalable and focus all of your attention solely on that. Do not waste time jumping around various ideas. Get one thing working smoothly, and then expand into different outlets as time permits.

    For example, I started out with just a blog and an email newsletter. Eventually, I began writing books, both to sell to my existing audience as well as attract new readers. I'll be starting a podcast soon as well to reach even more people.

    All of these platforms tie into my main business, and direct traffic to each other. If I had tried all of them at once or had them all on different topics, each one would just be mediocre.

    I personally think affiliate marketing to an email list is the most newbie friendly, but that's just me. Search around the Warrior Forum, find something that interests you, and learn all you can about it. When you feel comfortable, get started with it. You'll learn as you go.

    If you're very serious about it consider hiring a mentor. They will not do the work for you but they'll put you on the right path. Before dropping money however, be sure you're ready to commit. IM can be very rewarding but it's not nearly as easy as it's made out to be.

    Best of luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author slammer81
    I'd recommend affiliate marketing to you. You'll have a product to recommend and by extension, a market to target. Link the two with a site and remember that it will take some time as you are a newbie.

    The next time round with hopefully be easier.

    Don't stress either buddy, life's too short. It's a challenging game and not for everyone.

    There's plenty of threads around here to help you start your journey.
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  • Profile picture of the author w1908
    If I would do it all over again I would still do the same that I am doing now for almost 15 years.
    Choose a solid affiliate network and build websites around the products they are selling.

    Sure, it isn't that easy like 10 years ago since the web is flooded with micro niche sites, but if you can find profitable keywords without too many competition you are bound to get a page one ranking in google and therefore getting a decent amount of visitors.

    Visitors=$ no matter what method or business you are going to do in the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author Slade556
    It depends on what interests you most. Do you like to write? Do you like to design websites? There are a lot of factors to take into consideration when starting out.
    The easiest way is probably freelancing, you don't need to invest anything but time: However, at the same time, I'd say get a domain name and start developing a website of your own. Either make it a blog, or a portfolio or try out affiliate marketing, anything goes, as long as you feel that it's worth pursuing.
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  • Profile picture of the author skyro
    I would start building a list and begin communicating with my list. Also I would create blog related to my niche and use this to help communicate to my list and promote products in my niche I think would help my subscribers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Miguelito203
    Originally Posted by Silverhoop View Post

    Hi

    I am kind of new to this forum although I have been a lurker for some time.

    All of the posts are great but for a procrastinator like myself, they are also a grwat way to just keep reading and not take action.

    So here is my dilemma:

    I have read that many posts and journeys that seriously my head is spinning. Start a niche site (Easily said) write a kindle book or 2, fiverr, olance, ebay, affiliates.....

    If you were to start your on-line money making today, what method would you use?

    I am not looking to be spoon fed as I know that upsets a lot of contributors, but if you do know a particularly good strategy and don't mind posting the link too,

    It's for me - not a friend I need to get started and would love to get up and running with something that would bring me in a few hundred extra each month, but at the moment I feel as though I am doing too many things that nothing is working.

    Love to know your thoughts.
    There are a number of models to choose from. Here are a few: ghostwriting - do some research and write content for other marketers, become a niche blogger - create websites around profitable, topics of interests and write product reviews and post articles about stuff going on in your niche. With this model, it's also wise to start an e-mail list. You can also make money on Kindle.

    You can also have your own PLR store -- think of this as a cross between blogging and ghostwriting. You create packs of articles on various topics that marketers are searching for in the search engines to use on their blogs. For instance, let's say you want to start a toy site. You would go to Google and look for "toy plr." You would find a pack you like, buy it, modify the articles to your liking, and post them to your blog.

    The only way you're gonna know what you like is to consider what you're into and your income goals. I, for example, am lazy. I wanted something that would generate residual income but would also allow me to work at my own pace. I'm very indecisive and just wanted to find one subject matter I liked and stick with it. These are just some of the reasons I chose niche blogging.

    I've noticed that people who really like to write prefer to do things like ghostwriting, publish stuff to Kindle, or have their own PLR stores. You've gotta figure out what speaks to you. Here are some resources:

    Niche blogging: Affiloblueprint by Mark Ling - great for complete newbies
    Ghostwriting: Ghostwriting Cash by Tiffany Lambert - sales page might still have her old name on it (Dow).
    PLR store: PLR ATM by Tiffany Lambert - yeah, by the same person
    Making Money with Kindle: Kindling by Geoff Shaw

    I hope this helps some.

    Joey
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  • Profile picture of the author nesito29
    First of all welcome to the warrior forum.
    If I were to start again my online venture today I would do the exact same thing I did the first time.

    1. Find my passion and then check out if my passion (niche) fills the following criteria:
    -Are there always offers to promote?
    -Are customers in this niche known to buy?
    -Can you market to this niche online in a profitable way?
    -Do I truly like this niche?

    If the answer to all the questions is yes, I continue to the next section, if the answer to any question is no, then I find another niche.

    2. Get to know as much as I possibly can about: domains, setting up a website, affiliate marketing. (this is actually rather easy, you just have to find the right tutorial, in fact you can find them in namecheap.com if you want, and affiliate marketing can be learned here at the warrior forum).

    3. Create a gift or buy PLR (what you will give away in exchange for peoples emails).

    4. Purchase the best available domain for my squeeze page.

    5. Put together my squeeze page and autoresponder.

    6. Learn traffic generation and SEO.

    7. Grow traffic from free traffic channels.

    8. Monetize with affiliate offers.

    9. Get into profitability.

    10. Create my own product.

    11. Follow the circle of profit and repeat.

    Now, withing every section there is a lot going on, however if you do one a day I'm sure you can make it, some sections like creating your gift can be outsourced.

    Hope this information is of benefit and help to you and anyone that is just starting out their journey


    To your success,

    Jonathan Nunez
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  • Profile picture of the author Ben West
    What I would do and what I think a beginner should do are two completely different things.

    What I would do, if I were starting a new project and I have either time or money to spare, would be to create a website in one of my favourite niches, something I am passionate about. Then I would just put all that spare time or money into growing it, then I would put any money it makes back into growing it.

    For a beginner, I think you should start with either Fiverr or eBay. Both are incredibly easy to get started on, and as long as you are determined, you can either learn or lot or even become successful.

    I actually created a thread for beginners looking for a place to start. You should check it out here
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    • Originally Posted by Ben West View Post

      ...For a beginner, I think you should start with either Fiverr or eBay. Both are incredibly easy to get started on, and as long as you are determined, you can either learn or lot or even become successful.
      I think this is good advice for a beginner because you can get in profit quickly by using some skill you may already have (on Fiverr) or selling something you may already own (on eBay), and get into some profit quickly.
      However, if it was me personally, I would stop trying to mine for gold and just focus on selling the picks and shovels. That means I would just sell traffic and/or online advertising because no matter what you do online, you're going to need these. Its the lifeblood of the internet. I still advertise my own offers and such but I now get paid to do it (about $40+/day right now and growing), which means I don't do it on Google or Facebook - who never paid me a dime after spending thousands with them. If you'd like to know how, just click the top link in my sig. But I officially left behind all the fighting for rankings, seo, affiliates, people calling me up telling me they can get me to the first page of Google when I already know how to do that on my own, blah, blah, blah...If I was just starting out, I would not worry about any of these things and just do what I do selling traffic and advertising.
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  • Profile picture of the author ACandi
    Originally Posted by Silverhoop View Post

    I have read that many posts and journeys that seriously my head is spinning. Start a niche site (Easily said) write a kindle book or 2, fiverr, olance, ebay, affiliates.....

    It's for me - not a friend I need to get started and would love to get up and running with something that would bring me in a few hundred extra each month, but at the moment I feel as though I am doing too many things that nothing is working.

    Love to know your thoughts.
    Hello Silverhoop;

    I think I know how you feel when you say your head is spinning. I felt that way not too long ago.

    My suggestion - take a deep breath and count to 10. Still confused count to 20 .... backwards. Do some additions , subtractions, mental arithmetic but get the racing emotions and confusion under control. Strive to feel peace and calm.

    Got it? Ok FOCUS on the following points:

    1. Whatever you want to do online has to turn into sales and hard cash.

    2. Those sales and hard cash must cover the cost of getting those sales in the first place.

    3. One sure way to do 1 and 2 above is to create a 'sales funnel' offering a number of related products including a recurring income product. That will take your website or squeeze page visitor through a number of offers to improve your chances of getting one or more sales from that one person. Boom a new customer! Hurraaay!

    4. For the visitor who did not buy you need to set up an automated email follow - up series to turn that person into a friend who gets to know, like and trust you. That person will purchase from you in the future.

    5. Can you create 3 and 4 above? or do you need to purchase a 'done for you system?

    6. If you have to purchase a 'done for you system', before you get involved in any business opportunity: ask yourself some questions - What are the pros and cons of the business opp? What is being sold - a real product, a digital product, training, education? If no products are being sold BEWARE! Are customers getting value for their money? What competitive products are available elsewhere and at what cost?

    7. Once you have settled 5 and 6 above, you now have to drive traffic to your sales funnel (3 above). Set a monthly budget for paid ads and devote time to get traffic to your offers through 'blog strategy traffic methods'. If for example you want to earn $1,000 a month, do NOT spend more than $500. in paid ads. But make sure that $500 get you enough customers to earn $1,000. If paid ads do not get you enough customers, use free blog strategy traffic methods to get the rest of new customers.

    8. What I've described in 1 - 7 above can be applied to any niche market online.

    Now to answer your original question about 'If I were to start today?' Click Here

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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    I know most people are apt to say, choose what you are good at and
    then stick with that niche. But, like your general education, you started
    by learning a little of "everything" and then specialize later on. I think
    the same model would work well for anyone.

    A doctor does a general MD before s/he specializes.

    So, first get a forest view before you commit to the trees.

    -Ray Edwards
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  • Profile picture of the author lastbastion
    I would start working as a freelancer on some of the websites you have mentioned - Fiverr, SEOClerks, oDesk, Elance and even look for jobs on forums like WF. Once you earn some money you can invest them in your own website and use the experience that you have gained from the tasks you have finished for your clients.
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  • 1. pick your market
    2. spend a day learning about top competitors and learn what they sell and their funnels (buy their products to see how they work)
    3. create a kick but optin bonus I mean really really good
    4. buy a good domain
    5. install your tracking that can do split testing (there are plenty how to online or go to odesk/elance etc.)
    6 install squeeze page (plenty of plugins) i use OP2
    7 Make VSL
    8 Install Sales page with VSL
    9 buy traffic #1, then #2 then #3 test
    10. Make more versions of the squeeze page and sales page and rotate till you get one to sell (if you can't do copy (and most can't but wont admit it to themselves) then pay a pro
    11 scale

    Also write how you do it like you are going to sell a WSO even if you never will it will force you to document the process and realize your mistakes. Thousands and have it so it can be done. Unfortunately for every 1 who has done it 99 have failed and that's a fact Jack!

    Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author Roderick Gardner
    Look take action is the key here .
    I was the same reading and buying every shiny object.
    You need 3 things
    1 a list to sell to
    2 an autoresponder to email to you prospects & list
    3 a product to sell.

    So you need to build a list to sell to for life.

    First you need a hosted landing page to capture your leads email .

    Second a ebook to give a way or sell for a small fee ..do a seach on google free PLR ( private label rights)

    Third a autoresponder to send your email to your new prospects / email list .

    I recommend getresponce.
    You can build your landing page and host it on getresponce ..its a no brainer really
    Plus they have tutorial videos..

    Heres a free 30 day link for Getresponce check it out Email Marketing Software & Autoresponder from GetResponse

    Hope this help you
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    • Profile picture of the author YourBizAid
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      Originally Posted by Roderick Gardner View Post

      Look take action is the key here .
      I was the same reading and buying every shiny object.
      You need 3 things
      1 a list to sell to
      2 an autoresponder to email to you prospects & list
      3 a product to sell.

      So you need to build a list to sell to for life.

      First you need a hosted landing page to capture your leads email .

      Second a ebook to give a way or sell for a small fee ..do a seach on google free PLR ( private label rights)

      Third a autoresponder to send your email to your new prospects / email list .

      I recommend getresponce.
      You can build your landing page and host it on getresponce ..its a no brainer really
      Plus they have tutorial videos..

      Heres a free 30 day link for Getresponce check it out Email Marketing Software & Autoresponder from GetResponse

      Hope this help you
      This is a complete summary of all that has been said on this thread. If you're smart enough, take this and use it.

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      • Profile picture of the author More Than Tips
        This question is kinda like asking what makes a great lover?

        The answer is being in tune with the person you are with. Some may like feet and others do not.

        So the answer can not be one size fits all.

        If you can not build a great relationship with a list they it will be useless.

        If you have money to invest in your business then I would suggest totally different methods than if you were starting with bare bones budget.

        And bare bones budget people do not let people tell you that you have no right to be pursuing a business but where there is a will there is always a way.

        But you really do have to find out what you would like doing day in and out and not get tired of doing it feeling like its just a grind. Videos, webinars, site flipping, mobile, apps, self improvement..there are so many paths to take to success so you have to ask yourself what you see yourself doing and not get tired of it and can do it with gusto.

        If I was just starting today its the same as if I was starting years ago....I work with what I have and with what I am comfortable doing and what I think is fun as well. For me it was product creation.

        You have control, you get paid instantly not on someones else's terms, and you do not base your business solely on someone else's virtual real estate.
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  • Profile picture of the author salegurus
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    You aint kidding, seems like there is one every other day...
    But the masses love answering these over and over again so majority rules i guess, good or bad...
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  • Profile picture of the author CreativeWest
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    If you are starting today, as a one person business, not going to happen given the amount of completely crazy things going on. Almost everything is free, no-one respects time, and the amount of complete rubbish that is posted and/or sold. It's works, assuming you put more hours in, as long as you're not the last person holding it.

    Today, but this is a sensible approach, find trusted people to outsource and/or run the business and automate as much as is possible. The interesting thing about the irrational nature of today, they don't trust anyone and don't automate enough so just work longer hours for the same or less (behavioral science). If you do the opposite it becomes very interesting, it is now almost impossible for a startup to succeed as a one-person business, and the existing retailers will also very shortly hit saturation point as most are selling-down to the next irrational customer, who are becoming more frugal, flippant, and aggressive by the day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ledux
    Hi,

    I'm at a very similar situation as you now. Sitting and thinking is this what I'm doing really getting me anywhere?

    Because I'm at the same place as you are, you might think that I'm not qualified to give you advice, or am I?

    Nah seriously I just want to share my thoughts.

    STEP1

    From what I have learned so far building an online business that produces income requires a shit load of time and even the free methods end up not being free after all.

    For example blogging. Yes, you can start a free blog, but if you are serious you want a hosting, domain, premium themes, paid plugins, etc.

    Another example self-publishing on Amazon. Yes, it's free, but if you want a professional cover you need to pay up, if you want to build a list - pay up. If you want to promote your book pay up.

    So, my recommendation, if you have a job - KEEP IT. If you don't have a job - FIND ONE.

    This all online business thing can take several years to build so, you want to have food on the table coming from somewhere.


    STEP2
    So, you have a job or you are living with your parents like me, food and shelter is taken care off. Cool you can start build a business, right?

    No.

    If you have a job that you hate then you're probably not making enough, Or if you are living with your parents, then you want to get out of there as fast as possible.

    Either way I'm guessing you want quick results and a business ain't quick yo.

    I recommend freelancing.

    If you love writing don't start a blog, better do freelance writing, build up your skills, earn some extra money and when you are ready to start a business you will have money to invest to get it started fast.

    Don't love writing? There are plenty of other things you can do.

    Either way freelancing can provide you that extra money that you need rather quickly, yes there's a learning curve, but not like building a business.


    STEP3
    You are making more from freelancing than you are from your job and you're thinking of quitting it.

    Well, this is the time to start thinking about building a business. You now have mastered a skill that has a high demand, you are also making plenty of money to support yourself and some extra to invest in building a business.

    I think that at this stage you can start reading all those other comments on how to start an online business and see what would work for you.

    Wrapping It Up

    Before you start building a business realize that it will take several years for it to take off. So, get your essentials taken care off and have some extra for inversting.

    Yes,you could probably skip the freelancing step, if you have a good job that allows you to save up some extra. It depends on your situation.

    Hope this was helpful.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Benjamin
    Originally Posted by Silverhoop View Post

    Hi

    I am kind of new to this forum although I have been a lurker for some time.

    All of the posts are great but for a procrastinator like myself, they are also a grwat way to just keep reading and not take action.

    So here is my dilemma:

    I have read that many posts and journeys that seriously my head is spinning. Start a niche site (Easily said) write a kindle book or 2, fiverr, olance, ebay, affiliates.....

    If you were to start your on-line money making today, what method would you use?

    I am not looking to be spoon fed as I know that upsets a lot of contributors, but if you do know a particularly good strategy and don't mind posting the link too,

    It's for me - not a friend I need to get started and would love to get up and running with something that would bring me in a few hundred extra each month, but at the moment I feel as though I am doing too many things that nothing is working.

    Love to know your thoughts.
    The method I would use is no method at all, but a skill
    called trading (investing).

    I did it years back, actually made money, gave it up in
    pursuit of what I thought was a 'better opportunity', and
    came back to doing what I enjoy doing anyway.

    Trading is radically different from marketing. But a few
    websites I can recommend on learning how to be skilled
    at it is called babypips.com and forexfactory. Both free.
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    • Profile picture of the author Samuel Wilson
      Hi!
      If I was beginning now, and probably had some money, I would create a landing page for some well-selling IM products on Warrior Plus / Jvzoo / Clickbank. I would put an opt-in box in that landing page and buy traffic, then send it through a sales funnel. That way, I would grow a list (very important) while making money (as a by-product)
      Good luck!
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      • Profile picture of the author Jonathan Henson
        I would start building at least 5 little niche sites (in different niches) with 5 to 15 articles and place Adsense on them. Of course, there's more to this than just that, but there are many great free guides on how to do this on this forum and all over the Internet.

        By using different niches, you increase your chances of finding a really profitable one. Once you find a profitable niche that brings you money, build a few more niches sites around that particular niche and watch your profits explode.

        Adsense is without a doubt, the easiest way to get up and running on the Internet to start earning a few hundred dollars a month.

        After that, you can scale your business up. The more websites you create, the more money rolls in.
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  • Profile picture of the author Esteban Gomez
    If I had to start all over again I would just focus on the following:

    1. Picking a niche I love
    2. Finding a high paying high converting offer
    3. Setting a blog for lead generation
    4. Sending traffic to the blog
    5. Email my list

    There are many ways to get started in the affiliate marketing business so no way is "the best one".

    But that's just my 2 cents for this question...

    The main problem with this business is that people overcomplicate it or try to find a magical make money quick solution that doesn't exist.

    Affiliate marketing requires hard and consistent work if you want to get good results.

    I have a blog post where I talk more in depth about this topic in case you want to check it out.

    Cheers,
    Esteban Gomez
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  • Profile picture of the author Supmylo
    This is one of the things that is in my mindo too...how to start and where is the best place and best market for me to do the things in the right way.

    Doing some research and reading a lot I get to the point where in this "world" start is not the problem but continue is like a crazy science, because the amount of information grows so much that anyone how wants to learn starts to get overwhelmed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Silverhoop
    WOW!!!

    Thanks for all the responses a whole lot of stuff to get through.

    Apart from all the information I have received here I have also received some PM's - perhaps some of the more experienced IM'ers could elaborate on these too:

    Tsunami Cash Plan?
    Credit Packs?
    Freedom Business Academy?
    Product Creation?

    So, in the meantime, I think my first port of call will be researching a PLR e-book to give away and from there look at setting up a squeeze page.
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      Originally Posted by Silverhoop View Post

      Apart from all the information I have received here I have also received some PM's -
      Oh goodness, let the vultures tend to their feeding


      - Robert Andrew
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