Affiliate Links in Signature

11 years ago

Is it still not allowed according to the forum rules?

Do you control the site? The rule is about only linking to sites you own or control.

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GeorgeClicxy 11 years ago

I absolutely am and can prove it if necessary. That's what I wrote to admin but never got replied.

Originally Posted by Brent Stangel

Do you control the site? The rule is about only linking to sites you own or control.
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fatcitygirl

11 years ago

What do you mean by "represent?" If you don't actually own the site, you can't use such a link in your sig. If you do, you'll be permanently banned from using a signature. Seriously, don't try working around it. They know.

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GeorgeClicxy

11 years ago

By "represent" I mean I work for Clicxy and I have access to Admin panel of the website, so I control it.

Do you mean I am not supposed to have signature at all?

Could you quote the site rules on this one? I'm seriously confused now.

Originally Posted by fatcitygirl

What do you mean by "represent?" If you don't actually own the site, you can't use such a link in your sig. If you do, you'll be permanently banned from using a signature. Seriously, don't try working around it. They know.

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onSubie 11 years ago

Originally Posted by GeorgeClicxy

By "represent" I mean I work for Clicxy and I have access to Admin panel of the website, so I control it.

That is not the same as being the owner.

You can only promote sites you actually own.

Not sites that are owned by someone else who hires you.

Otherwise sites would just hire VA's to "represent" them and then spam forums with signature links that have a tracking number to see how many people click on them.

Oh wait, that's what you did.

(5) No Affiliate Links Allowed - Promote Your Own Domain/s Only. It's either this or we have to cut out sig files altogether which we do not want to do.
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slammer81

11 years ago

Most sigs are clean and easy on the eye and adhere to the rules. Yours didn't.

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salegurus

11 years ago

Unless you are this guy Dror Riov and also live in Tel-Aviv then no you don't own the site and therefore can't advertise it in your Sig...

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Steve B

11 years ago

George,

Here is the rule reference . . .

Warrior Forum Rules

SIGNATURE FILE RULES

(5) No Affiliate Links Allowed - Promote Your Own Domain/s Only. It's either this or we have to cut out sig files altogether which we do not want to do. (Bold is my own emphasis)

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lgibbon

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Steve B

George,

Here is the rule reference . . .

Warrior Forum Rules

SIGNATURE FILE RULES

(5) No Affiliate Links Allowed - Promote Your Own Domain/s Only. It's either this or we have to cut out sig files altogether which we do not want to do. (Bold is my own emphasis)

The best to you,

Steve

That's the way it always was Steve.
But there are some here using leadpages to advertise affiliate sites now.
Surely that rule should rightly exclude those too?

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skyro

11 years ago

It's only allowed if you own the domain. With that number showing at the end it shows you don't actually own the domain and that number is your is affiliate id.

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jfalxr

11 years ago

Why don't you just buy a new domain and build a landing page with your tracking link and place the URL in your forum sig? It's so much easier even though people do need a little more steps to join your affiliate network

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AntonioSeegars1

11 years ago

I thought it was always this way. Most forums don't like affiliate links.

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Jeff Burritt

Banned 11 years ago

My 2 cents.

If you put up a blog/lead page to use in your sig, just as a way to 'get around' the rule, the mods are smart enough to figure this out. They have to make a judgement call sometimes, and nobody's perfect. But the more people who bend the rule, the more likely sigs will get pulled entirely.

My advice is to put your link to your own blog in sig, and make sure your blog really is a content-heavy blog you update and add value to regularly. Then if you have ads on your blog to your affiliate program, so what, that's fine.

So it's really a matter of intent. What does it look like your intention is? If you intend to have a blog, then you're fine. If you intend to have a landing page for your affiliate program you're not fine.

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GeorgeClicxy

11 years ago

Thanks for the replies guys! I'm just not that familiar with all the forum rules yet! So would Dror Riov (the registrar) have to provide his ID along with some other documents in order to have this sort of signature approved? Or how does it work?

I've been seeing a lot of forum members with links to the affiliate networks they seem to represent (here is just a short list I made in 60 seconds):

CPAleadPeter
hbeladiya
ProfitLinx Evaldas
OfficialsAaron
nicholaoptionbotaffiliate
World Leads

Are they all owners of the domains they list in their signature? If yes (and apparently the answer has to be yes) how did they prove the ownership? And how do you prove that you are actually the owner and not somebody else working for the owner?

Sorry for the stupid questions, I just need to make sense of the rules.

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agmccall

11 years ago

Originally Posted by GeorgeClicxy

Thanks for the replies guys! I'm just not that familiar with all the forum rules yet! So would Dror Riov (the registrar) have to provide his ID along with some other documents in order to have this sort of signature approved? Or how does it work?

I've been seeing a lot of forum members with links to the affiliate networks they seem to represent (here is just a short list I made in 60 seconds):

CPAleadPeter
hbeladiya
ProfitLinx Evaldas
OfficialsAaron
nicholaoptionbotaffiliate
World Leads

Are they all owners of the domains they list in their signature? If yes (and apparently the answer has to be yes) how did they prove the ownership? And how do you prove that you are actually the owner and not somebody else working for the owner?

Sorry for the stupid questions, I just need to make sense of the rules.

If our link has tracking or referrer in the url then it will be looked at as an affiliate link. You have already, publicly, announced that you do not own the site you are trying to link to so any signature you create with that site linked to will probably be deleted.

If you had just linked to the main url (www.site in question.com) then there probably would not have been a problem

al

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GeorgeClicxy 11 years ago

Originally Posted by agmccall

If you had just linked to the main url (www.site in question.com) then there probably would not have been a problem

al

That's what I did after the link with tracking number was deleted. I just used www.website.com and it still got deleted.

But the question still remains open, how do you prove/verify ownership of any given domain here?
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raxiq

11 years ago

Originally Posted by GeorgeClicxy

Hi,

Couple of days ago my old signature was deleted by moderator - "as it contained Affiliate Links."
Warning message said we are only allowed to use domains that we own.

The "affiliate link" - was the Sign Up link to the affiliate network that I represent, and it looked like this:

http :// partners .clicxy. com/ signup / 3464

As you see it does contain "3464" parameter that I use to see how many affiliates would join from clicking on signature on Warrior forum.

Is it still not allowed according to the forum rules?

Thanks for the help

No affiliate links in signatures

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cooler1 11 years ago

Originally Posted by raxiq

No affiliate links in signatures

So is linking to Fiverr in your signature ok? The signature rules state it has to be your own domain.
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- onSubie 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by cooler1
  
  So is linking to Fiverr in your signature ok? The signature rules state it has to be your own domain.
  
  They seem to allow links to services or sales that are yours but not on your own site. This is different than affiliate links.
  
  Links I have seen that may be allowed (or may not be allowed but were overlooked) include:
  
  Links to the Flippa sale listing by the domain owner
  Links to a WSO by the WSO owner (not affiliate links)
  Links to Fiverr gigs by the owner/service provider of the gig
  Links to WF classified and for sale listings by the listing owner
  
  Some of these links may be questionable so seeing them does not mean they are expressly allowed.
  
  But there seems to be tolerance for listing your own gigs, services and products even if sold through another platform.
  
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Mark Singletary

11 years ago

This does raise a good question about the rule. We have, for example, Payoneer representatives that have come here before answering questions about Payoneer. There have been other companies that have sent representatives too. Of course this isn't a customer support forum for these companies but questions get asked all day long about certain companies rules or procedures or talking about their problems.

Let's say that Google or PayPal or Clickbank sent an official rep to answer questions. Shouldn't FL allow it? And wouldn't it seem fitting that contact information be included in the sig? Or no?

I also agree about the abuse this would lead to by everyone all the sudden becoming a representative just so they could get their affiliate link seen.

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Kay King

11 years ago

I'm happy to see mods cracking down on this - the lead pages and the affiliate links have gotten out of hand lately. This tells me the mods are getting a handle on the forum and that's good for everyone.

kay

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lgibbon

Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

I'm happy to see mods cracking down on this - the lead pages and the affiliate links have gotten out of hand lately. This tells me the mods are getting a handle on the forum and that's good for everyone.

kay

I wish that were true Kay.
Haven't seen any crack down on the affiliate template sites added to leadpages.
Quite the opposite.

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kindsvater

11 years ago

If a member is an employee of a company and using a company url which includes a tracker to identify the number of clicks from the forum - it is not an affiliate link.

However, it appears to be an affiliate link and thus was removed. A moderator may not be able to distinguish between an affiliate link and a counter.

Solutions include:

1. Do not use a tracker. Just a link to your company website.

2. Contacting the Help Desk to get approval for the link.

My suggestion is #1. If you are an employee just link to xxx.com with no counter, no tracker, no subdomain, no subdirectory, etc.. You indicated that was also deleted so I would contact the help desk.

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Frank Donovan 11 years ago

Originally Posted by kindsvater

Solutions include:

1. Do not use a tracker. Just a link to your company website.

2. Contacting the Help Desk to get approval for the link.

Or

3. Don't allow corporate-sponsored sig files - or limit them to owners only.

Google has over 50,000 employees.

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GeorgeClicxy

11 years ago

Originally Posted by kindsvater

If a member is an employee of a company and using a company url which includes a tracker to identify the number of clicks from the forum - it is not an affiliate link.

However, it appears to be an affiliate link and thus was removed. A moderator may not be able to distinguish between an affiliate link and a counter.

Solutions include:

1. Do not use a tracker. Just a link to your company website.

2. Contacting the Help Desk to get approval for the link.

My suggestion is #1. If you are an employee just link to xxx.com with no counter, no tracker, no subdomain, no subdirectory, etc.. You indicated that was also deleted so I would contact the help desk.

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Ok so just in case somebody missed that, I'll repeat once again:

Once my original signature with the "affiliate link" was removed - I made the new one and simply put www. clicxy .com link without any tracking. And again it got deleted

Besides all technically speaking the domain is owned by the company as a legal entity not the webmaster who registered it for us initially.

I'm not sure if it's me splitting hairs here or is the rule a bit vague..

Take the forum itself for example:

Domain Name: WARRIORFORUM.COM
Registrar: ENOM, INC.

Does it mean that it's only ENOM, INC. would be able to put the link in the signature? How come? Would WF have to create artificial intelligence called "ENOM, INC." that would make posts on forum?

All I want to say is that I am the part of the team at Clicxy and I don't understand the logic of the rule. Is there any?

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onSubie

11 years ago

Originally Posted by GeorgeClicxy

Once my original signature with the "affiliate link" was removed - I made the new one and simply put www. clicxy .com link without any tracking. And again it got deleted

If that had been your first sig link it probably would have been fine. As was mentioned earlier by someone. Nobody would have noticed and nobody would have cared.

But once you identified yourself as employed by and not a principal of the company then any link to that site would probably be deleted.

Some other shady practices that people get away with, like redirecting their own URL to an affiliate offer, only work because mods cannot check everything.

Sigs that look like affiliate links and sigs that get reported get the most attention.

Sigs that look like a plain URL and not an affiliate link may fly under the radar.

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Dennis Gaskill

11 years ago

Originally Posted by GeorgeClicxy

Take the forum itself for example:

Domain Name: WARRIORFORUM.COM
Registrar: ENOM, INC.

Does it mean that it's only ENOM, INC. would be able to put the link in the signature? How come? Would WF have to create artificial intelligence called "ENOM, INC." that would make posts on forum?

All I want to say is that I am the part of the team at Clicxy and I don't understand the logic of the rule. Is there any?

Enom is not the owner of the Warrior Forum, they are the registrar (the place where the domain name was registered). The Admin Name field is generally the site owner and would be the person who can advertise the site in their sig. In your example, though, WF uses a privacy agent so the site owner isn't listed.

The "no affiliate links" rule and "you can only link to your own site" rule are in place for a good reason, but exceptions have been made - linking to your own Fiverr gig, for example. You'd have to get it cleared with Admin though, as us regular members can't really help you with that.

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lgibbon Banned 11 years ago

Originally Posted by GeorgeClicxy

I don't understand the logic of the rule. Is there any?

Or you don't want to understand.
It's quite simple really.
You listen to what the mods have told you or you leave.
Nothing more to understand.
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adrienneaileen24

11 years ago

Originally Posted by GeorgeClicxy

Couple of days ago my old signature was deleted by moderator - "as it contained Affiliate Links."

Unfortunately the Warriorforum does not support the Affiliate link on the signature. In this case you broke the rules & regulation of the signature. You should read any site rules & regulation before putting your link. thanks

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CyberHaggis

11 years ago

Hello, Yes you can use affiliate links on the signatures. No problems.
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Mark Singletary 11 years ago

Originally Posted by CyberHaggis

Hello, Yes you can use affiliate links on the signatures. No problems.
Thanks.

You haven't read the rules or this thread have you? You are wrong.

Mark
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discrat 11 years ago

Originally Posted by CyberHaggis

Hello, Yes you can use affiliate links on the signatures. No problems.
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WTH ?

Are you not reading this Thread or just came to Post real quick to get people to go to your Lead Pages ?
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Mark Singletary

11 years ago

Originally Posted by CyberHaggis

Hello, Yes you can use affiliate links on the signatures. No problems.
Thanks.

Love your sig!

Moderator's Note:

As stated in Signature Rule #5: No Affiliate Links Allowed - Promote Your Own Domain/s Only. It's either this or we have to cut out sig files altogether, which we do not want to do. - creiben31

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discrat 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Mark Singletary

Love your sig!

Mark

Do some people actually think before they post. Unbelievable ( the person you are referring to, that is)
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jasondinner

11 years ago

So many people in this thread keep referring to "affiliate links are not allowed in sig file" when he clearly stated that he works for the company as an employee like so many other affiliate managers do for other CPA networks who participate and provide value in here.

Apples and oranges.

The issue, as Kindsvater eluded too, was that your tracking link that you're using to see if anyone actually clicks it and joins your network from here, looks just like an affiliate link.

Unless he's trying to get 2nd tier signups, pretty sure his sig is ok.

Probably would be smart to not make it look like an affiliate link though moving forward.

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fatcitygirl

11 years ago

Promote Your Own Domain/s Only should probably be worded differently. I say this because you can promote a domain you own but that domain then forwards to an affiliate link or something similar. That gets your sig removed as well.

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Lightlysalted

11 years ago

Yeah sorry buddy it's all about ownership - although how it's possible to check that I don't know. Bascially they are looking for high level domain names i.e. .com, .uk. org etc.......

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David Keith

11 years ago

I am also a little bit confused here. We have representatives from several companies including getresponse that have sig links to the main company....we allow those employees to post on behalf of those legit companies with sigs that link to those companies.

Obviously, I am not for affiliate links, but I think there is a difference when you are employed by a company and representing them vs just an affiliate trying to make a buck.

To me it seems the difference is in you direct motivation to post. An employee of getclicky or getresponse will mostly be posting to help resolve issues and provide value...an affiliate will usually be posting just to get sig clicks.

I understand the slippery slope concept here, but I don't really have a problem with an employee of a. Established and fairly well recognized company having a link to their employer in the sig. In fact, it's helpful to me really....I know who they are and that they are endorsed to speak on behalf of the company they represent.

We just had one from flippa and a cpa site do this exact same thing with sig links for the company that employs them

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Kay King 11 years ago

I'm not sure if it's me splitting hairs here or is the rule a bit vague..

It's you splitting hairs because you aren't getting the answer you want so you keep re-explaining.

There is nothing confusing. As Les said - if the moderators of this forum say your signature is against the rules....that's that. Doesn't matter if others post to say you are right - it's not up for a vote.

because you can promote a domain you own but that domain then forwards to an affiliate link or something similar. That gets your sig removed as well.

That's already in the rules...

Please do not try to get around these rules by getting your own domain name and simply redirecting it to an affiliate program. You Will Be Removed From Here When Caught.
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GeorgeClicxy

11 years ago

Originally Posted by David Keith

Obviously, I am not for affiliate links, but I think there is a difference when you are employed by a company and representing them vs just an affiliate trying to make a buck.

To me it seems the difference is in you direct motivation to post. An employee of getclicky or getresponse will mostly be posting to help resolve issues and provide value...an affiliate will usually be posting just to get sig clicks.

This is what I'm trying to say thank you

This and that there are no guidelines on how to prove your ownership of the domain here right?

And are the owners necessarily the registrars indicated in WHOIS records?

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