The Reality of the Solo Ad business?

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Hi people.

I post this thread with real concern (And you tell me if I'm wrong), because of all I can see of the solo ad sellers, is just people selling IM products to newbies, that don't have any clue of what they want.

Therefore, they will buy product after product, because in their minds, the Bright Shiny Object syndrome tells them unconsciously, that the next one is going to be THE ONE!

And I feel like the Solo Ad sellers and buyers take advantage of this newbie state of mind, and try to sell their stuff.

Of course, this is not the case for everyone, since there's plenty of honest marketers out there, who have a real knowledge of how to do things, and they want to teach others how to do the same. Knowledge is money, and I understand that.

The problem is when we think that our list is just our ATM, and that with it we can literally print money on demand, instead of thinking of it as a list of people who we can provide value to (of course, money is included, but providing VALUE is the main priority, instead of just making money).

That's the way I see it, for the most part.

Now... This is my opinion only. If anyone has anything different to say, please do, but I just see dishonesty all over the place, and that's just taking advantage of the newbies.

Am I making any sense? What are your thoughts on this?

Thanks in advance, and hopefully this can turn into a really useful and constructive conversation on how this business works, and what its values are.

Thanks again!
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    Originally Posted by MoneyMachines View Post

    Hi people.

    I post this thread with real concern (And you tell me if I'm wrong), because of all I can see of the solo ad sellers, is just people selling IM products to newbies, that don't have any clue of what they want.

    Therefore, they will buy product after product, because in their minds, the Bright Shiny Object syndrome tells them unconsciously, that the next one is going to be THE ONE!

    And I feel like the Solo Ad sellers and buyers take advantage of this newbie state of mind, and try to sell their stuff.

    Of course, this is not the case for everyone, since there's plenty of honest marketers out there, who have a real knowledge of how to do things, and they want to teach others how to do the same. Knowledge is money, and I understand that.

    The problem is when we think that our list is just our ATM, and that with it we can literally print money on demand, instead of thinking of it as a list of people who we can provide value to (of course, money is included, but providing VALUE is the main priority, instead of just making money).

    That's the way I see it, for the most part.

    Now... This is my opinion only. If anyone has anything different to say, please do, but I just see dishonesty all over the place, and that's just taking advantage of the newbies.

    Am I making any sense? What are your thoughts on this?

    Thanks in advance, and hopefully this can turn into a really useful and constructive conversation on how this business works, and what its values are.

    Thanks again!
    Definitely it holds true in many dark corners of this business.

    I see people who are relatively new come in here asking questions of how to start their Solo Ad business and they have a List size of 2K.

    It makes me shudder.

    There are some decent ones in this Niche, but so many really , really bad ones in the Solo Ad industry


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  • Profile picture of the author Bryan Ebert
    I can see why you might think that way. There are certainly some ad sellers out there who are simply trying to take advantage of someone who is going to perpetually click on the newest, shiniest product out there.

    Having said that, there are also good ad sellers out there. People who have gotten members on their list who have a genuine interest in whatever niche they are in. People who are truly interested in something and may very well spend on several products in that area simply to gain as much information as they can find.

    Also, try not to think of it so much as a "newbie state of mind." If someone purchases something and does absolutely nothing to put their new information to good use, that is the fault of the purchaser, not the seller. We can not control what some people choose to do with what they have access to, and therefore, no one is being taken advantage of. They made the choice to purchase, and they made the choice to do nothing afterwards.
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  • Profile picture of the author PLR Basket
    It's the newbie's responsibility to do their due diligence and check for reviews of the product they're intending to buy. I really never understood people who just buy any product blindly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Burritt
    Bottom line, you just have to try out a few solo ad sellers. Cause you don't really know until you actually try them out. I don't know any good way around this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    (of course, money is included, but providing VALUE is the main priority, instead of just making money).
    You have obviously been one of the people buying all the products you mention. Written, no doubt by the "money is just a by-product" gooroos.
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    • Profile picture of the author MoneyMachines
      Originally Posted by Brent Stangel View Post

      You have obviously been one of the people buying all the products you mention. Written, no doubt by the "money is just a by-product" gooroos.
      I have bought their products, yes. No doubt about that.

      Now, what are your thoughts on all this?
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  • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
    Stop buying and start selling.

    Switch your mindset from consumer to producer.

    Put a plan together and only buy what will help you execute your plan.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Keith
    to be very honest, i doubt if the success rate of the people on most mmo lists is statistically much different from the success rate of people on most solo ad sellers lists.

    you really have to wrap your head around whose responsibility it is to help you...is it yours or mine? if you won't help yourself, there isn't much i can do about making you successful.

    part of helping yourself is learning from your failures. if you waste money on 3 $7 get rich quick schemes that is one thing. most can live with that sort of failure and recover financially.

    but if you are buying your 32 wso and you still are not making money, i doubt if anything that is said in that 33 wso is going to make one damn bit of difference as to whether you become successful or not..

    at that point, i would argue that paying $7 for a completely blank wso may actually teach you a more important lesson than a 57 page report about how to do seo.
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    • Profile picture of the author emmerson
      I completely understand what you are saying here MoneyMachines, cause lets face it, due diligence is VERY difficult to do for a newbie solely based on a sales page with everyone writing copy that makes you wanna push that buy button before even finishing read the page.

      I still agree with David though, at some point you would have started to piecing together why the 3 (or 33) WSOs have yet to yield any results for you and learn where you efforts have fallen short.
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    • Profile picture of the author MoneyMachines
      Originally Posted by David Keith View Post

      to be very honest, i doubt if the success rate of the people on most mmo lists is statistically much different from the success rate of people on most solo ad sellers lists.

      you really have to wrap your head around whose responsibility it is to help you...is it yours or mine? if you won't help yourself, there isn't much i can do about making you successful.

      part of helping yourself is learning from your failures. if you waste money on 3 $7 get rich quick schemes that is one thing. most can live with that sort of failure and recover financially.

      but if you are buying your 32 wso and you still are not making money, i doubt if anything that is said in that 33 wso is going to make one damn bit of difference as to whether you become successful or not..

      at that point, i would argue that paying $7 for a completely blank wso may actually teach you a more important lesson than a 57 page report about how to do seo.

      I think you completely missed my point.

      I'm not talking about making or not making money. I'm talking about how I see the Solo Ads business as an endless loop. "I make money online, selling products about how to make money online." And I'm asking for other people's opinions on this "moral" part of the business.

      Some people selling those products don't even know (or care) if the products they are selling work. They're just making promises about how they will work or not, cause it's profitable, and boom!

      That's the point I'm trying to make here, and seek for other people's opinions on.
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      • Profile picture of the author David Keith
        Originally Posted by MoneyMachines View Post

        I think you completely missed my point.

        I'm not talking about making or not making money. I'm talking about how I see the Solo Ads business as an endless loop. "I make money online, selling products about how to make money online." And I'm asking for other people's opinions on this "moral" part of the business.

        Some people selling those products don't even know (or care) if the products they are selling work. They're just making promises about how they will work or not, cause it's profitable, and boom!

        That's the point I'm trying to make here, and seek for other people's opinions on.
        and i think you missed my point...they sell clicks or pdf information or plugins...nothing more.

        how you use the click they sold you or the pdf they sold you about seo or increasing your conversion rates is totally up to you. is it a scam to sell info that doesn't work for everyone who reads it? i think not.

        i fully understand that many of these guys are "selling" the dream lifestyle with their promises, but after you buy into that a couple times and realize all you got was a pdf, you would think most folks would realize that.

        so who is the fool, the guy who keeps selling people what they want or they guys who keep buying what they want...maybe neither. There is a huge group of people who are addicted to buying the dream and they actually have no intention of ever trying to use the info. its a feel good moment for them to buy something and trick themselves into feeling like they at least tried to do something to make their world better.

        i get that you are trying to make the point that these people are scammers, but its just not true....they sell information which most of the time will work if applied correctly.

        i can assure you, there are more fools among buyers than sellers.

        fyi...i am not even in the MMO market.

        ps... even here, you are not looking to understand whats going on, you are looking for people to agree with your assertion that they are scammers. some indeed are, if they are selling you real clicks and using bots, that's scamming. but if they offer you the chance to buy something and you take them up on that, and they provide the product as they said they would...that's not scamming. even if you cant make the info in the pdf work like you hoped it would.
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  • One of the big deceptions that some solo sellers (not all but many) don't tell you is they agree to send you copy but they lie THEY DON'T they change is like to something just to get a click so they can bill you but has no value to you for example:

    CLICK HERE TO MAKE $5,000 WITH THIS SECET CLICK TECHNIQUES THEY DON'T TELL YOU ABOUT

    or some BS just so you click and they get 50 cents or whatever.

    Now once they click they see they where tricked and cancel. You are out of luck SUCKER! That they don't tell you and laugh all the way to the bank!
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