Ezine Articles Must Have A Ton Of Premium Members - Is It Worth It?

by Steven Wagenheim 113 replies
That's the only thing I can come up with as the backlog on articles has
reached ridiculous proportions.

I am seriously considering taking the 1 year membership which essentially
cuts the price in half. Problem is, I just can't see spending the money to get
the same service I was getting for nothing.

Here is essentially the benefits of Premium Membership.

  • SPEED: Your articles will go the front of the line to be reviewed before non-premium level member article submissions.
  • SPEED: Your article submissions will be reviewed by a senior level member of our Editorial team.
  • SPEED: Your email questions to our Member Support ticket center will go to the front of the queue for priority response.

On point 1, so what? I was getting articles approved in hours for free.

On point 2, so what? My articles always go through with no problem.

On point 3, so what? I almost never have to write to them.

Is anybody else just a little bit pissed off that "Premium" membership
doesn't give you anything that you weren't getting for nothing?


I mean $97 a month just to have your articles approved within a reasonable
amount of time is a little much.

Anyway, I'm posting this thread to ask what other article writers think.

Worth it or not?
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  • Profile picture of the author Marian Berghes
    as a side question, how come you guys get your articles approved so fast without premium? all the articles i wrote took around 4-7 days before they were live.
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    • Profile picture of the author sylviad
      Originally Posted by Rhypo View Post

      as a side question, how come you guys get your articles approved so fast without premium? all the articles i wrote took around 4-7 days before they were live.
      After you submit and have approved 10 articles, you automatically go Platinum, which is SUPPOSED to mean your articles get reviewed in 24-48 hours. So once you pass 10 (if you haven't already), you should see faster approvals. They provide an email on the article submission thank you page where you can contact them if it takes longer for approval.

      Re this Premium Membership...

      If none of the benefits are important to you, then no, it's not worth the price. As you say, Steven, most people won't see any significant improvement in their accounts based on those 3 points you mention.

      Regarding timely articles... What could possibly be so timely that it can't wait a few days, since EA does not accept news release-type articles.

      Besides, 24-48 hours for Platinum approval... during half of that time, at least half the planet is asleep anyway, so what does it matter?

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      • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
        Originally Posted by sylviad View Post

        After you submit and have approved 10 articles, you automatically go Platinum, which is SUPPOSED to mean your articles get reviewed in 24-48 hours. So once you pass 10 (if you haven't already), you should see faster approvals. They provide an email on the article submission thank you page where you can contact them if it takes longer for approval.

        Re this Premium Membership...

        If none of the benefits are important to you, then no, it's not worth the price. As you say, Steven, most people won't see any significant improvement in their accounts based on those 3 points you mention.

        Regarding timely articles... What could possibly be so timely that it can't wait a few days, since EA does not accept news release-type articles.

        Besides, 24-48 hours for Platinum approval... during half of that time, at least half the planet is asleep anyway, so what does it matter?

        Sylvia
        I think the vast majority of people who posted in this thread ARE Platinum users and aren't getting approval in 24-48 hours. I've been Platinum for a long time and it takes anything between 6-9 days to get approved. For me that's a bit of an issue because this has only started happening since this subscription started up - so it looks like they're doing it on purpose to get people to subscribe.

        I've tried contacting them as well to no avail - in fact I was told to just sign up for the Premium membership. When I submit 5-10 articles a day I can't contact them every time an article isn't approved on time because it's happening ALL the time.
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        • Profile picture of the author sylviad
          Hamida,

          I kind of THOUGHT that might be what's going on. After posting that, I spent some time on the site but didn't see anything about this new subscription service. However, in the TOS and writer's guidelines, it states that the Platinum is still valid and will get your articles reviewed in 24-48 hours.

          For the past few months, I've been using a submission service, so I haven't been paying attention to the approval time, although some confirmation emails did seem to take a while.

          Maybe EA has shifted everyone back to standard (by accident?) when they set up the new paid feature capability on the site? Just a wild guess, mind you.

          Perhaps if enough authors complained or submitted queries about this, they would switch us back.

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    • Profile picture of the author Tom E
      Originally Posted by Marian Berghes View Post

      as a side question, how come you guys get your articles approved so fast without premium? all the articles i wrote took around 4-7 days before they were live.
      First, you have to be earn platinum-level status. At that point, in order to get your articles approved within 24 hours, you generally need to be submitting articles (at least) once per day. In my experience, once you go below one per day, the approval time increases.
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      • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
        Originally Posted by gr8tocre8 View Post

        First, you have to be earn platinum-level status. At that point, in order to get your articles approved within 24 hours, you generally need to be submitting articles (at least) once per day. In my experience, once you go below one per day, the approval time increases.
        Unfortunately it doesn't work quite like that - I'm platinum and it takes up to 7 days. I always have a huge backlog, even though I submit most days.
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  • Profile picture of the author stevecl
    No its not worth the money. Even before i had my platinum account my articles were reviewed in under 24 hours on most occassions. I then get upgraded to platinum and then had to wait upto 72 hours...Crazy...

    Definately not for me.

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    • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
      It's worth it if you need faster approval... but if you don't then it ain't worth it..

      I considered it and decided against it, on the grounds that platinum free is fast enough for me.

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      • Profile picture of the author Hamida Harland
        When I first heard about it I wouldn't even have considered paying $97 a month for a service I'd previously been getting for free, but I'm actually thinking of trying it out for a month now.

        When I had basic my articles were approved within 24-48 hours, when I got to platinum it started to take a little longer, and now it's taking 6-8 days on average to get them approved. I feel like I'm being forced into paying for the subscription just to clear the backlog and have my articles approved in a reasonable time, so I'm not particularly happy about it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Oksa
        If there were more benefits, then maybe. I checked into the premium account option a few week's back, and was surprised at what it was. Just a faster review of your articles isn't worth the $100/month IMHO.

        Perhaps if you are writing articles about current events, or incredibly timely information, but otherwise what difference does a day or two really make? Think about it this way, if you are submitting articles every day, then you have a new batch of articles being approved every day (except weekends). So, switching to a premium account may make your currently pending articles get approved faster, but once that's done there's no real benefit.

        Now, if they offered premium members things like weekend reviews, automatic publishing (reviewed AFTER it's live with penalties for trying to subvert the rules), and a rotating featured author's slot on the home page as well as any category pages you are publishing in, then that would be a start.

        However, right now I persoanlly think $97/month is ridiculous for what you get. Heck, there's no guarantee it will be that much faster. It doesn't say 'instant', just that you move to the head of the queue.

        I don't know, more power to Chris if he can get people to sign up, but I for one will be waiting for it to offer some value for the money.

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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          Originally Posted by Michael Oksa View Post

          If there were more benefits, then maybe. I checked into the premium account option a few week's back, and was surprised at what it was. Just a faster review of your articles isn't worth the $100/month IMHO.

          Perhaps if you are writing articles about current events, or incredibly timely information, but otherwise what difference does a day or two really make? Think about it this way, if you are submitting articles every day, then you have a new batch of articles being approved every day (except weekends). So, switching to a premium account may make your currently pending articles get approved faster, but once that's done there's no real benefit.

          Now, if they offered premium members things like weekend reviews, automatic publishing (reviewed AFTER it's live with penalties for trying to subvert the rules), and a rotating featured author's slot on the home page as well as any category pages you are publishing in, then that would be a start.

          However, right now I persoanlly think $97/month is ridiculous for what you get. Heck, there's no guarantee it will be that much faster. It doesn't say 'instant', just that you move to the head of the queue.

          I don't know, more power to Chris if he can get people to sign up, but I for one will be waiting for it to offer some value for the money.

          ~Michael

          Michael, thank you. This is exactly how I feel about the whole thing.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Originally Posted by JayXtreme View Post

        It's worth it if you need faster approval... but if you don't then it ain't worth it..

        I considered it and decided against it, on the grounds that platinum free is fast enough for me.

        Peace

        Jay
        Jay, is it still fast enough for you with the backlog? I don't know how bad
        it's been for you, but I still have articles from Sept 4 that haven't been
        approved yet.

        It's starting to get really out of hand.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bob Monie
        No way not worth it. Ezine Articles is past its prime if you ask me. I think people that use it for building backlinks are wasting their time aswell. Google has changed alot lately and multiple backlinks from the same domain arnt worth much more than 1 backlink from the domain.

        If ya wanna build backlinks with articles submit them to multiple article directories
        it ya want a boost in traffic for a few days use Ezine Articles. No way im paying that much for it though.

        Steven, since your a prolific article writer, i presume you will still be paying the fee or will you stick to free membership. You might have your articles approved in a few hours now but that might soon change after they get a few signups.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          Originally Posted by Bob Monie View Post

          No way not worth it. Ezine Articles is past its prime if you ask me. I think people that use it for building backlinks are wasting their time aswell. Google has changed alot lately and multiple backlinks from the same domain arnt worth much more than 1 backlink from the domain.

          If ya wanna build backlinks with articles submit them to multiple article directories
          it ya want a boost in traffic for a few days use Ezine Articles. No way im paying that much for it though.

          Steven, since your a prolific article writer, i presume you will still be paying the fee or will you stick to free membership. You might have your articles approved in a few hours now but that might soon change after they get a few signups.

          Bob, believe it or not, I don't see the benefits of signing up. Not to get
          the same service I was getting before the bottom dropped out of EZA's
          approval service.

          I guess I'll just wait and see how bad this gets.
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          • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
            I'm thinking of signing up and trying it out for a month or so...

            The reason?

            Well, I was dealing with a backlog issue as well. At one point, I had 20 articles accumulate in the same niche over a 1 week period. Suddenly, they were all approved at the same exact time and half of my articles were not put on the front page. Not to mention the fact, half of my own articles pushed the other half of my own articles off of the recently submitted list.

            The result of that was, I did not get that initial burst of traffic I am used to seeing when I publish articles. Which in all honestly, I feel it cost me a couple of sales at least.

            For that reason, and that reason alone I am thinking of blowing the cobwebs out of my wallet and paying for a month just to see what it is all about and to see how it might benefit me. After a couple of weeks, I should be able to make a fair assessment as to whether or not it is worth the $97 a month or not.

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    • Originally Posted by stevecl View Post

      Even before i had my platinum account my articles were reviewed in under 24 hours on most occassions. I then get upgraded to platinum and then had to wait upto 72 hours...Crazy...

      Definately not for me.

      regards
      Steve
      Haha! That is too funny

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      • Profile picture of the author wordwizard
        Wow! Just found this thread...

        I had been wondering about that premium thing but hadn't checked the price yet. I agree that $97 a MONTH is way too much, especially since I don't tend to submit hundreds of articles, though I am planning to crank things up a bit.

        If they must charge, I wish they'd introduce a system like iSnare's, where those of us who would like our articles reviewed more quickly can pay variable amounts, in line with the number of articles we submit... And a flat fee for unlimited, or, well, iSnare actually limits it to 10 a day for their premium members and 5 a day for the regular ones. And if I were Chris K, I would put a lid on that for EZA too. None of this 400 articles a day stuff. As someone pointed out, that could kill things pretty quickly. So I'm sure the lid will appear soon enough if this should become a problem (and a matching lid-busting super premium rate, no doubt).

        About the 24-48 hours...

        Maybe they mean "work hours" like so many other outfits, which would give them about a week, with six workdays and a weekend that will be in there by necessity. And so far, they're apparently mostly within that limit. Not that this is how I used to interpret their guidelines, and I also am used to my articles showing up within a couple of days at least.


        A word about reviewing all the articles at once:

        I have a slightly different view about their reviewing all those articles at once... I doubt it's done out of maliciousness. It's just a way of efficiency, I think.

        Imagine, if you're there reviewing articles, and I don't know if they get paid by the article or if they get pressure for processing a certain number.

        Either way, if they come across a batch by, say, you, Steven, and they either already know or can clearly see that here they have quality stuff, I'm sure they're kind of operating from the assumption that the other ones will be pretty good too.

        So instead of reading and evaluating every single article carefully individually, as they would have to do if they switched around from one person to the next, going strictly in order, they can go check check check check check...

        ...and process all 10 or 20 of Steven's articles in something like 3 minutes, just scanning for obvious problems, of which they probably don't expect any after looking at the first few articles.

        So it's very likely just a matter of speeding up their review time. And the reviewers themselves may not even be aware of what this might mean to Steven and others who suddenly have all their articles show up at once.

        I'm sure they'll be finding out about that now though (EG)

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  • Profile picture of the author TeamGlobal
    Steve,

    There may be two sides to the coin. The backlog could be, as you say because they have a ton of premium members and are busy providing them with priority service.

    The backlog could be there to illustrate how much nicer it would be to have your articles approved quickly as they were before the premium membership was offered.

    I have an account with Isnare with articles that has been waiting on approval as far back 8-26-2008 so I'm already sort of mentally prepared for the Ezinearticles delays.

    For those people who are writing and submitting on a regular basis you remember that you will still have many articles getting approved everyday single day to bring you traffic to promote your products.

    All The Best,


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    • Profile picture of the author JayXtreme
      You have to consider and appreciate Steve.. that this backlog is beneficial to yourself as someone who produces good content..

      As for the worth of the premium service... I think if you want faster approval then cool... it is lacking in any other benefits, so maybe going for it will move you away from the backlog right now, but I wouldn't necessarily say the extra time is a big deal at the minute considering the good it is doing for the content being published by people in our industry.

      Raising the bar is always a good thing, even if it means them being more stringent with approval times.

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      • Profile picture of the author adamv
        I would say that $97 per month for premium service at EZA is not even close to being worth it. Think about all of the membership sites or software subscriptions that charge that same amount and compare what they offer for $97 versus getting your article published 2 or 3 days sooner.

        I agree with Michael Osaka, if you're submitting articles every day then you have a batch of articles being published every day. If it gets to the point where it takes a month to get an article published I'll make another directory my primary choice. I don't ever plan on paying $97 per month no matter how bad the free service gets.
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        • Profile picture of the author Terry Hatfield
          Jeremy,

          I have also noticed my articles moving through their system so fast that several of them are not even getting indexed by google at all.

          I think that ezinearticles may be having an overload meltdown.

          But in all fairness many people try and submint a bunch of articles torward the end of the week in the hopes that they will stay up over the weekend then they end up with a problem of everyone wanting approved at the same time.

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          • Profile picture of the author MADMONEY
            Originally Posted by Terry Hatfield View Post

            Jeremy,

            I have also noticed my articles moving through their system so fast that several of them are not even getting indexed by google at all.

            I think that ezinearticles may be having an overload meltdown.

            But in all fairness many people try and submint a bunch of articles torward the end of the week in the hopes that they will stay up over the weekend then they end up with a problem of everyone wanting approved at the same time.

            Terry
            Greetings

            I agree with most of what has been said. I have articles in the queue from September 2. $97 a month is ridiculous.

            He recently sent out an e-mail that he is expanding the office I guess he's waiting for us to pay for the new help. Instead of Google ad sense.

            I see a ezine articles as a necessary evil. I don't like building up somebody else's content, and not get paid for it.

            Now I have to pay them to accept my articles, which builds up their page ranking, their Alexa ranking, and they get ad sense money. No way!

            Just my two cents,

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          • Profile picture of the author Jean Morgan
            I would honestly no pay even $9. Where is the value?

            I doubt this current backlog has been caused by volume of submissions and for $97 a month I can go to the front of the queue?

            I will wait my turn however frustrating it may be.
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            • Profile picture of the author rapidscc
              Since we are talkin bout article directories can I ask others aside from Ezine and goarticles?

              I admit I felt happy when my first article in Ezine was approved. Somehow it shows that they are really reviewing quality articles. Also that I am a capable writer somehow.

              The approval took about 3 days, yet I still got the kick out of it.

              Again, please list other article submission sites, just incase.

              Enjoy!
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            • Profile picture of the author MADMONEY
              Originally Posted by Jean Morgan View Post

              I would honestly no pay even $9. Where is the value?

              I doubt this current backlog has been caused by volume of submissions and for $97 a month I can go to the front of the queue?

              I will wait my turn however frustrating it may be.
              I guess the four-day holiday didn't help in getting things approved over at Ezine, either!

              I'll take a wait-and-see approach.

              Mad Money
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  • Profile picture of the author captivereef
    You know if it was more reasonable maybe, but no more then $20. There is just to many other directories out there.
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    • Profile picture of the author Michelle Strait
      I got approved much faster before I became an expert author. I appreciate the coffee mug, but I wouldn't pay the $97.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jason Brown
        No way is it worth it, just think of the good links / software you can get for that price.

        So it takes a few days more, who cares really, after the inital delay you have taken the hit. Say they take 7 days for approval and you submit each day, then it just means that after the first 7 days you should have articles approved every day again.

        If they start approving them on mass or sporadically, then we just have to be a bit smart in our submissions, no competeing keywords in a batch.

        The delays could be planned to think we need them that much ......
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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
    I have a bit of a different angle on this.

    I actually spoke with Chris (via email) about this several months ago before they announced the premium membership. He was very secretive about what he was going to charge, but he really pushed the idea that this service isn't for article marketers like you and I who have small to intermediate sized businesses.

    He wanted the service to be more for larger companies who would realize a huge difference in getting an article submitted in a much shorter amount of time. And the way he explained it to me, I think that $97 is very reasonable. There are a lot of scenarios where this makes perfect sense and $97 pays for itself straight off.

    All that being said, I think any one of us who pays $97 a month for the EZA premium service is wasting their money. It was simply not designed for us.

    Frank, I do not believe one bit that this could be the demise of EZA. But I do agree that Mr. Knight is watching this thread.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dana_W
    I don't know, if if it gives you a competitive edge and helps you control when you get your articles approved...I think it's worth it.

    Jeremy Kelsall pointed out the dilemma faced when you submit a whole bunch of articles at once these days. I am seriously considering the $97 a month. If I do it I'll report back and let y'all know how I'm doing.
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  • Profile picture of the author angela99
    For me, YES it is worth it.

    Why?

    * Last time I checked, EZ was a PR7

    * EA has a great reputation - and judging from their blog posts, they intend keeping that reputation

    * Faster approval means I write more. Yes, I'm willing to pay to get motivated :-)

    * Competition this year is fiercer than it was in 2007 - anyone care to estimate how fierce it will be in 2010? Or 2015?

    * Support for EA - it's a great site. If it's helping YOU to make money, why wouldn't you want to support them? After all, you can cancel your premium account at any time...

    Is it worth it for everyone?

    I'd say NO, unless you're already making a good income, and EA fits into your business plan. If you're in the first couple of years of making money online, there may be better ways to spend $97 a month...

    Speaking of which, everyone seems to "know" that $97 a month is the cost of premium membership, but I haven't seen a sales page yet, so who knows?
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    • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
      Angela,

      No offense, but I still think you're wasting your money unless getting your articles approved sooner will make you MORE money than not getting them out there sooner. I don't see the value otherwise, and I don't see most of us being able to justify that.

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    • Profile picture of the author derrickp
      So how much faster is it really? If it is taking 7 days for normal authors what kind of approval times are the $97 per month people getting?

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    • Profile picture of the author adamv
      Originally Posted by angela99 View Post

      For me, YES it is worth it.

      * Support for EA - it's a great site. If it's helping YOU to make money, why wouldn't you want to support them? After all, you can cancel your premium account at any time...
      They may be helping us make money but they are already making incredible sums of money off of us as well. I'd love to have a look at their adsense account, I'm sure it's doing far better than mine is.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
        EzineArticles is a business just like any of us.

        Because of that, they are going to try to monetize their service the best they can. With all of their authors, I'm sure they probably have 200 - 300 paying members....Can anyone say KA-CHING?

        I think Allen hit the nail on the head. EzineArticles, from what I've seen has never really hid the fact that they don't really like the piss ant affiliate marketers submitting content to their site. Charging for an upgraded service is one way for them to expand on the customer base that they want to have.

        Is the monthly fee worth it to me?

        I'm not sure yet, I will have to wait and see how everything goes with submissions by not upgrading.

        Personally, if EzineArticles went to an exclusively fee based site and charged a couple hundred dollars a month, I would pay it in a heartbeat simply for the fact that articles that I have submitted there generate a couple thousand dollars a month worth of income for me.

        Sure, there are other article directories like Goarticles and ideamarketers, but lets face it, most of us do not see anywhere close to the same results with other directories.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          Okay, I just had 13 articles approved at once.

          That's 4 days of work shot to hell.

          Look, I don't care if they take longer to approve my articles but it makes
          no sense that it should take 4 days to approve an article from Sept 5 but
          only 1 day to approve an article from Sept 8.

          That article should still be in the queue. If there's a backlog there's a
          backlog. It should affect everybody equally.

          In other words, if 10 people all submit 3 articles a day for 5 days (total of
          150 articles) and only 20 of them can get approved in a day, then it should
          take about 8 days to get all those articles approved...

          Meaning...

          Sept 1 gets appoved on Sept 9
          Sept 2 gets approved on Sept 10

          and so on.

          If Sept 8 gets approved the next day, something is very wrong with the
          approval process.

          Bottom line is that week of work is shot to hell and THAT is NOT
          acceptable.

          I hope Chris is reading this because this needs to be addressed.

          At least give us a way to control our backlog so that we don't have a
          dozen articles approved in one day.

          I guess we could keep them as drafts only and then actually submit them
          as articles start to get approved but I don't know how that's actually
          going to work with the backlog. If you wait, does the article just end up
          getting piled up on top of what's out there anyway?

          Know what...this shouldn't be this frickin complicated.

          My gut tells me that EZA is going to lose a ton of business because the
          writers who submit content on a regular basis, and good content, are not
          going to put up with this BS.

          Or am I the only one who feels this way?
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          • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Kelsall
            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            Okay, I just had 13 articles approved at once.

            That's 4 days of work shot to hell.

            Look, I don't care if they take longer to approve my articles but it makes
            no sense that it should take 4 days to approve an article from Sept 5 but
            only 1 day to approve an article from Sept 8.

            That article should still be in the queue. If there's a backlog there's a
            backlog. It should affect everybody equally.

            In other words, if 10 people all submit 3 articles a day for 5 days (total of
            150 articles) and only 20 of them can get approved in a day, then it should
            take about 8 days to get all those articles approved...

            Meaning...

            Sept 1 gets appoved on Sept 9
            Sept 2 gets approved on Sept 10

            and so on.

            If Sept 8 gets approved the next day, something is very wrong with the
            approval process.

            Bottom line is that week of work is shot to hell and THAT is NOT
            acceptable.

            I hope Chris is reading this because this needs to be addressed.

            At least give us a way to control our backlog so that we don't have a
            dozen articles approved in one day.

            I guess we could keep them as drafts only and then actually submit them
            as articles start to get approved but I don't know how that's actually
            going to work with the backlog. If you wait, does the article just end up
            getting piled up on top of what's out there anyway?

            Know what...this shouldn't be this frickin complicated.

            My gut tells me that EZA is going to lose a ton of business because the
            writers who submit content on a regular basis, and good content, are not
            going to put up with this BS.

            Or am I the only one who feels this way?
            Steven,

            From what I've seen it has always worked like that.

            If you get a ton of articles submitted, they all get approved at once. In my experience, once I get over 15 articles submitted, within an hour or 2 they are all approved at once.
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            • Profile picture of the author melanied
              16 articles approved today. My head was spinning. lol.
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            • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
              Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall View Post

              Steven,

              From what I've seen it has always worked like that.

              If you get a ton of articles submitted, they all get approved at once. In my experience, once I get over 15 articles submitted, within an hour or 2 they are all approved at once.
              Well, you see the thing is, I've never had this many articles backlogged
              before and if this is going to now be a continual thing because of the
              premium membership, it's going to greatly screw things up for me. I write
              regularly and expect to be approved regularly and NOT when they frickin
              feel like it.

              I just may spring for the premium service if this goes on like this all month.

              I'll see.
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          • Profile picture of the author matthewd
            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            My gut tells me that EZA is going to lose a ton of business because the
            writers who submit content on a regular basis, and good content, are not
            going to put up with this BS.

            Or am I the only one who feels this way?
            I completely agree with you Steven. I actually haven't submitted an article to them in a long time b/c of this.

            The first few times, I dealt with it, but it did not take long for me to say screw Ezine Articles.

            I think this was definitely a bad move on their part.
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        • Profile picture of the author Art Turner
          I know what the delay is...

          Their programmers are still trying to figure out how to move more than one person to the head of the line.

          Art
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          • Profile picture of the author TimG
            I was invited to use the premium service as a test drive and I can vouch for the speed at which articles are approved - In most cases they were approved in hours but in a few instances it was more like 30 minutes or less. So the speed is there if you need that for your service.

            However, I'm not sure that most people will need the speedy approval unless they have a site that caters to time driven events such as a fantasy football site or a site that provides football odds for the following week's games...etc

            What I would love to see is if EZA would share a percentage of earnings from an author's approved articles if they are in the $97 a month program. I think this would motivate more people to sign up, provide better quality and if your articles are good enough earn some income (perhaps even more then the $97 fee) through an adsense revenue sharing plan.

            Also, if you have a variety of sites and your current approval time is slow then instead of writing and submitting several articles for 1 site focus on writing and submitting 1 article for several sites then as the articles are approved (1 for each site) simply submit another article for tha site - This allows you to avoid competing with yourself and you can control the flow of traffic to your site - Not the best method but a method none the less...

            Respectfully,
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  • Profile picture of the author Ephrils
    I don't think it's worth it, I'll just keep getting what I used to be getting for free. Right now, with all the backlog of articles, it's like Platinum members are Basic members anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author flnz400
    I'd pay 3 bucks a day to make 300 any day of the week, if that was my main source of promotion to build my business. I haven't tried the service, but I don't see many jumping around saying how great it is. That's not a good sign.

    On the other hand, someone over at Ezine finally got smart and decided to capitalize on their positioning in the market place. "Why not get paid for what we already do? Duh"!
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    • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
      Originally Posted by flnz400 View Post

      I'd pay 3 bucks a day to make 300 any day of the week, if that was my main source of promotion to build my business.

      But that's not the issue. The issue is paying three bucks a day for the same stuff you get for free. It wouldn't make a difference to your income or business model.

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    • Profile picture of the author jjpmarketing
      Ezine should be careful... $97 per month for so little... They could turn into feebay. Or in this case feezine. Other services could quickly popup to offer the same services for free.

      Was this something they recently started? Or has this been going on for a while?
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      • Profile picture of the author remodeler
        Pay Ezine Articles $97 a month to do the job they are supposed to be doing anyway? I don't think so. For your $97 do you get a cut of all that Adsense money they make off of your articles? I think we all know the answer to that one. It's only a matter of time...
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Whiston
    Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

    On point 1, so what? I was getting articles approved in hours for free.

    On point 2, so what? My articles always go through with no problem.

    On point 3, so what? I almost never have to write to them.

    Is anybody else just a little bit pissed off that "Premium" membership
    doesn't give you anything that you weren't getting for nothing?
    On one hand I think this sucks. At one time Platinum authors got all this priority treatment for free and it's a little sad to see this change.

    I understand the site has to create profit but I imagine the contextual ad revenue alone is staggering. It seems like not too much to ask that existing Plats who have helped make the site a lot of money with great content should get at least a discount on the new upgrade option.

    But then am I being guilty of the "povery complex" I accuse people of having when they get pissed with me for trying to make money? I honestly don't know that I'm being 100% objective here but my initial response to the question is I can't see paying $97 for the kind of treatment I've been getting for the past two years at no cost.

    And while I'm semi-bitching about EZA... what's with these iron-fisted editorial changes? I had articles shut down that contained the links to example steps in Web design articles. The new editing staff said I was placing "self promoting" links in the body.

    These links went out to bland ass pages with step by step on building CSS menus. No order button, no Adsense, 100% free and beneficial content for the reader and they pulled the plug on it as being self-endorsing.

    It really does seem that nothing stays cool forever. Inevitable growth and the problems this brings plus the need to make more and more money eventually crash the party.
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    • Profile picture of the author LadyL08
      I'll put my two cents in.

      I had about 25 articles queued from the last four days. With the new articles I was submitting today, I expected my articles to get approved over the next few days and right up till the weekend.

      Logged on this morning and twenty were approved at once. Just a few left in the queue. And as many others have noticed, about half never made the Newly Approved list. That's frustrating because I am new to this and have just started an article writing push and now wont see the fruits of that labor.

      I agree that the backlog is workable if the articles are approved as they are submitted, but this all at one time is annoying. Now my other articles probably wont get approved until Monday.

      I shouldn't complain too much because I had half of the New articles spots in my category over the long weekend.

      I might consider paying a smaller fee like $10 or $20, if it's easier to manage when the articles are getting approved. Just good business practices should have them stick to some routine to approve articles. When they all get approved fast like this it makes me think they didn't really review them. Like when they posted that they were 6 days behind last month.

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        • Profile picture of the author Greg Cooksley
          Hey Steven,

          Having read all the posts, it's blatantly obvious that the vast
          majority of article writers are not happy with this new paid
          service from EZ......

          Now in the offline world, service or product producers would
          first gain a clear understanding of their customer's requirements
          BEFORE going into production or building a service offering.
          This is called Market Research......(sarcasm....drip, drip, drip)

          It appears to me that EZ forged ahead with this new service without
          consulting their client support base or doing any kind of research.
          I might be wrong, but no one has made mention of this in this
          thread or any other that I've read.....

          So, they seem to have adopted a high handed bludgeon approach
          which has initiated quite a backlash.....

          If they were, as someone mentioned, catering for corporate accounts
          and not SOHO businesses, then it's clear by deduction that they
          don't give a rat's ass for the smaller clients.....this is somewhat
          concerning!!!!!

          Why not have a multi-tiered approach which would cater for all
          clients?

          Perhaps clients will begin to vote with their feet (or mouse)......maybe
          that is exactly what this move was intended to do.....get rid
          of the rats and mice.....think about it....

          My $5's worth...

          Regards

          Greg
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          • Profile picture of the author Dean Shainin
            I'd maybe pay the $97 if EA had a profit sharing plan.

            How about they go public and sell some stock?

            I'd probably go for that too. Maybe something like dividends for every article we submit.

            Cheers,
            Dean
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            • Profile picture of the author MADMONEY
              Originally Posted by Dean Shainin View Post

              I'd maybe pay the $97 if EA had a profit sharing plan.

              How about they go public and sell some stock?

              I'd probably go for that too. Maybe something like dividends for every article we submit.

              Cheers,
              Dean
              Hello,

              Here's an out-of-the-box idea, let's get together anyone who has the capital and or the need and lets buy Ezine articles.com.

              This way not only will we have the ability to post articles as quickly as possible, we would also make a profit from all the Google ad sense. We could also add affiliate programs to promote other sites as well and really monetized this model.

              Does anyone have an idea what that site would be worth?

              Mad Money
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      • Profile picture of the author Eric Lorence
        Supply and Demand, the American way!

        Come on, did you really think EZA was gonna be free forever??

        Look on the bright side...

        Maybe now they can clear out the "Riff Raff".

        Best!
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      • Profile picture of the author Marhelper
        That's the only thing I can come up with as the backlog on articles has
        reached ridiculous proportions
        I still get my articles approved in 1-2 days. I sure hope that does not change.

        At this point I do not think it is worth it for me. I am not in a situation where I have to get an article published in a few hours. It may be worth considering in the future.
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      • Profile picture of the author TopNotchContent
        No, I would not consider $97/mo for a premium membership. I wonder if this premium membership is in response to declining adsense revenue?
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        • Profile picture of the author sylviad
          Chris,

          Even with articles needing to be fixed you must have some that DON'T need fixing. If all your articles need fixing, then yes, you certainly do need to improve your writing skills. Or take another look at their guidelines and make sure you understand them.

          One trick to ensure your articles are publishable is to write them one day and review them the next day before submitting them. It's much easier to catch errors if you allow that break between writing and proofing. Also, read them out loud and you will find errors much easier. You will likely discover that you are making the same mistakes, which is then easy to remedy.

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      • Profile picture of the author Niche
        Hmmm? Why did I think that you get a free upgrade once you have a certain number of articles approved?
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        • Profile picture of the author wordwizard
          I just thought of one way to make it really worth it ;-)

          Clearly, that premium price does increase EZA's turnaround speed dramatically.

          And so with that high of a price, if it were to inspire me to really crank out a bunch of articles promoting a few products and get optins into my list plus traffic to my blogs, it could be well worth it.

          I would have to make myself write multiple articles/day to really make it pay, and without that kind of "inspiration" I haven't done that. But I know I should...

          So, I 'm thinking about doing just that... Give myself that extra inspiration that would definitely jumpstart things, or rather give them a bit jolt, certainly on a productivity level.

          Would be good to see how much of a difference it would make. Could be life-changing, if it works!

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  • Profile picture of the author Jeffrey Louis
    Everyone: don't pay to submit your articles
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    • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
      Originally Posted by Jeffrey Louis View Post

      Everyone: don't pay to submit your articles
      If it's worth it, why the heck not?!!

      I'm all about proof and the REAL world...so please reply with proof if you are going to make any claims.

      Thanks,
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      • Profile picture of the author zortag
        Wow! I hadn't heard that there was going yo be any cost to this, much less $97/month. That's ridiculous. No thanks. I'll just wait for their slow reviews or submit to other directories.
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        • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
          Originally Posted by zortag View Post

          Wow! I hadn't heard that there was going yo be any cost to this, much less $97/month. That's ridiculous. No thanks. I'll just wait for their slow reviews or submit to other directories.
          My gut tells me that EZA knows that their directory gets the best response.

          I used to submit to other directories when I first started and none of them
          gave me the traffic that EZA did. It wasn't even close.

          I think they know this and thus is the reason why they're doing what they're
          doing. They're kind of like the Google of article directories. They're doing this
          because they know they can get away with it.
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          • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
            Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

            My gut tells me that EZA knows that their directory gets the best response.

            I used to submit to other directories when I first started and none of them
            gave me the traffic that EZA did. It wasn't even close.

            I think they know this and thus is the reason why they're doing what they're
            doing. They're kind of like the Google of article directories. They're doing this
            because they know they can get away with it.
            BINGO!

            The question is...with the longstanding unspoken and unwritten agreement between author and directory of content for backlinks - Is this pushing the envelope of ethics or is it just a change in the way things are going to be dome in the future?

            AL

            p.s. I consider myself pretty good at writing, but is my post punctuated correctly? I doubt it.
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            • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
              Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

              BINGO!

              The question is...with the longstanding unspoken and unwritten agreement between author and directory of content for backlinks - Is this pushing the envelope of ethics or is it just a change in the way things are going to be dome in the future?

              AL
              Allen, hell if I know. I'm just sitting here patiently waiting for this thing to
              play out and see where it goes. I don't do pay per click much because of
              the nightmare that has become with all the Google regulations. It used to
              be so easy. Now, forget it.

              If article submission gets anywhere near that mess, everybody who has
              been telling me I need a brand new business model (which I am working
              on) is going to be right and I'm going to be hurting big time.

              But for now, I'm not going to panic until something bad actually happens.
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              • Profile picture of the author nursewriter
                What if some of the most knowledgeable warriors started their own directory site especially for warriors?

                Reviews could be done on new authors but once the author reaches a certain number of approved articles, submission would be instanteous then the articles could be policed after going live. (kinda like the wso's are now).

                How long would it take this time of directory site to be seen as an authority site like ezine articles? Surely, ezine had to start somewhere.

                Even if it takes a year wouldn't it be worth it to give us all something that we need?

                I would even be willing to pay a monthly fee to submit articles if I had more control over when the articles are going to be "live."

                Steven,

                I find it totally ridiculous that all of your articles were approved all at once and all that hard work went down the drain....nothing like be "rewarded" for being one of the top article writers on ezine.

                Anyway these are just my thoughts on the matter. But I think a high ranking article directory site especially for warriors ran the right way would be awesome.

                Lucinda
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                • Profile picture of the author rosetrees
                  Originally Posted by nursewriter View Post

                  What if some of the most knowledgeable warriors started their own directory site especially for warriors?

                  There is a Warrior Forum Article Database. Why don't we all use that?
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                  • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
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                    Sorry, but I think Allen will need to do some marketing and SEO for the article section of the forum in order for that to work.

                    I'd be happy to discuss this with admins, if they wish.

                    <Jumping into Bunker With Survival Suit and Rations>

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                    • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
                      It really depends on how you look at it. You say it is a problem they are having...but what is your average wait time at any other directory? If it's worth two craps, the wait is just as long, probably longer.

                      They're not forcing anyone to buy the membership either.

                      If this had never come about, nobody would know otherwise.

                      There are, however, some companies that will easily fork over a hundred bucks to get an article out on this directory in hours...especially if it is in one of their highly syndicated categories.

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                      • Profile picture of the author Greg Cooksley
                        Who knows the reasons why EZ is so successful compared to other
                        directories?

                        If those reasons can be fully understood, then it's possible
                        to imitate that site and replicate the results.....

                        Then it will be possible for all the Warriors to set up their
                        own directory......or to use the services of an existing Warrior
                        directory????

                        I'd be willing to pay for such a service....

                        What do you think?

                        Regards

                        Greg
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                        • Profile picture of the author Allen Graves
                          Actually, Greg, I fully believe I know why they are so much better in rankings than everyone else...at least over the last year or so.

                          It has to do with some of their TOS and is the reason they are so strict in their article approval (especially lately).

                          I am attempting to recreate what I am hypothsizing, but it is going to take some time.

                          I think it is beginning to work, though. If you know what site I am talking about, check the Alexa rank and page views over the last month or so.

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                          • Profile picture of the author ExRat
                            Hi Greg,

                            Who knows the reasons why EZ is so successful compared to other
                            directories?
                            I answered that question about 18 months ago on the old forum. And even then, I didn't understand why no-one noticed and why others didn't copy them. I'm sure the owner can put me straight and tell me many other things he did to be successful, and I wouldn't question him. But still, I feel there was one factor that stood out and one aspect that made the difference.

                            I considered copying them...I still have the graphics I paid to have created in order to do it. I still have the two different article directory scripts I bought and tested in order to do it. But I just didn't want to start a labour intensive, hassle ridden business of that ilk - it wasn't for me.

                            The reason they were so much more successful was 'mainly' because they scored a PR6 when everyone else was around 3 or 4 and a few were at 5.

                            Ever see those posts in here, 'Hey! I only submitted five articles to EA and I'm an expert! Did anyone else get this?'

                            Yes. Everybody else got that. And they were also cleverly directed to the 'ezine articles expert author' image that looks lovely on the site of anyone who prides themselves on their writing ability.

                            It also contains an anchor link back to EA.

                            As I said above, I'm sure the owner could put me straight on 1000 other things that he has done to position himself at the top. But personally I feel that back then (a couple of years ago when article marketing hit mainstream, before Travis, around the time when Potash launched article announcer and the whole shovel selling industry went into overtime on article marketing) that aspect is what made the difference and if you looked at all of those article marketing products, their sales material contained lists of benefits and at the top of the list was 'get a PR6 backlink (sic) from EA'.

                            So shoot me down
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                          • Profile picture of the author Greg Cooksley
                            Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

                            Actually, Greg, I fully believe I know
                            why they are so much better in rankings than everyone else...at
                            least over the last year or so.

                            It has to do with some of their TOS and is the reason they are
                            so strict in their article approval (especially lately).

                            I am attempting to recreate what I am hypothsizing, but it is
                            going to take some time.

                            I think it is beginning to work, though. If you know what site
                            I am talking about, check the Alexa rank and page views over
                            the last month or so.

                            AL

                            Hey Allen,

                            In life it's all about the groundswell of interest......look
                            at Apple Mac compared to Microsoft. We all know that Apple has
                            a vastly superior opsys but it actually means jacksquat. Microsoft
                            has the market share.

                            Clearly EZ doesn't enjoy the market share dominance in the same
                            way that Microsoft does.....(world domination)

                            So therefore, there is an opportunity for other players to give
                            EZ a go for their money.......especially if EZ starts falling
                            out of favour with article writers en masse....

                            So Warriors, here's your chance to do something....:rolleyes:

                            Regards

                            Greg
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                  • Profile picture of the author sylviad
                    Originally Posted by rosetrees View Post

                    There is a Warrior Forum Article Database. Why don't we all use that?
                    That's why.... how many other Warriors are unaware of its existence? My impression has always been that the article directory is related to the forum theme... internet marketing, so I didn't look. But now that I look, I see categories in a whole whack of niches although many have 0 content and others have only a few. Clearly, it needs more promotion since it's only Ranked 1.

                    It makes a lot of sense. Here's a bunch of marketers looking for content, and a resource right under our noses. That would be like a match made in heaven... or something.

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                    • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
                      I currently have the Premium serivce and did so because of the same reasons that Steven mentioned.

                      Speed.

                      I just got sick of waiting for a week and a half to get my articles reviewed.

                      It is very quick now and I normally get my articles reviewed within an hour or 2 of submitting them.

                      The only other perk you get is i can now change when i want the article reviewed and released onto the site so you can set a date that you want the article to go live!

                      It is quite good in my opinion and I am giving it a month trial.

                      Chris
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                      • Profile picture of the author sylviad
                        If you submit 10 (or whatever) articles a week every week, eventually your articles will be backlogged at EA. But... each week you would have something approved and you would be able to keep live articles on EA consistently. Unless you want a specific article out there at a specific time, the approval time doesn't really matter all that much. Just build a backlog and each week/day you'll get your link out there... even if the articles approved are a week old.

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                        • Profile picture of the author Chri5123
                          Originally Posted by sylviad View Post

                          If you submit 10 (or whatever) articles a week every week, eventually your articles will be backlogged at EA. But... each week you would have something approved and you would be able to keep live articles on EA consistently. Unless you want a specific article out there at a specific time, the approval time doesn't really matter all that much. Just build a backlog and each week/day you'll get your link out there... even if the articles approved are a week old.

                          Sylvia

                          Hi Sylvia,

                          Yes i thought about doing this and it makes sense, however the only problem with this is if you are getting articles reviewed and then they have problems and you have to re-submit them and wait another week.

                          That is what I got with a few of them but I guess I should of worked on my article writing skills

                          I think the real question here is:

                          "Do you think that they have slowed down submissions to get more people to sign up to the premium service?"

                          Worked with me anyway, but I do a fair bit of article writing and have always been put off with EZA review times so makes sense for me.

                          All the best

                          Chris
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                          • Profile picture of the author sylviad
                            Originally Posted by Chri5123 View Post

                            ...I think the real question here is:

                            "Do you think that they have slowed down submissions to get more people to sign up to the premium service?"...
                            It makes sense that people who are paying will take top priority. If they are submitting tons of articles to take advantage of that high monthly cost, that will shunt the rest of us lower down the totem pole. Premium members would get their articles approved first, and then EA would move on to our articles. The more premium members there are, the more likely our articles will take longer to approve. My guess is that it is not a deliberate move to make more money or replace money lost from Adsense, but merely a result of their new service. How many editors do they have? If they can't keep up with the demand created by Premium and Platinum agreements, EA needs to hire more editors.

                            What happens when Premiums submit 200-400 or more articles in a day? What time is left for non-Premium members? If staff remains the same, how can they possibly meet the editing demands as Premium memberships increase? Without more staff, it's quite conceivable that non-paying members will be waiting as much as 2 weeks or more.

                            I see some Warriors have indicated that they get most results from EA. In my case, I get just as many clicks from Searchwarp, sometimes more. So EA isn't necessarily the be all and end all of article directories for max results.

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              • Profile picture of the author ExRat
                Hi Steven,

                I just disagreed with you elsewhere, but I'm not following you and dogging you deliberately

                My gut tells me that EZA knows that their directory gets the best response.
                Obviously - and they're in business to make money. If any of you have tried running a directory (yes I know you do Allen) then you will know it's a lot of work for not much pay.

                In order to keep any sort of reputation you have to monitor every submission with a human = expensive.

                Hence, I don't understand these comments about 'getting away with it.' They're charging for a service. Many article writers have been happily paying for ghost-writers and a submission/spinning service but when it comes to getting priority on the top directory that gives you top rankings - everyone talks about them 'getting away with it.'

                I don't get it.

                I don't do pay per click much because of
                the nightmare that has become with all the Google regulations. It used to
                be so easy. Now, forget it.

                If article submission gets anywhere near that mess, everybody who has
                been telling me I need a brand new business model (which I am working
                on) is going to be right and I'm going to be hurting big time.

                But for now, I'm not going to panic until something bad actually happens.
                I see it the other way around. I understand why google implemeneted rules (from a business perspective (IE profit) AND from the perspective of maintaining quality).

                This is one of google's flagship products and probably most lucrative. Hence, EVERYONE (except Waggers) wanted a slice of the pie and therefore every trick in the book was applied.

                I don't see it as a mess (except for some of the crap adverts people put on there - 'don't buy this - scam!...buy here') but I DO see most of article marketing as a mess. Just look at some of the articles. I've checked out some articles by warrior article experts on EA and they were badly spun, typo and error filled and not worth reading - not all, but some (not you Steven!)

                And look at the ROI. People are quietly making fortunes due to the targetted traffic that PPC provides. Those same people, if they DO submit articles, certainly won't be getting their hands dirty writing and submitting them themselves.

                You can't write an article and get 10000 highly targetted visitors in one day in order to test a concept with article submissions. You can with PPC.

                And that's why I don't see it as being as messy. And that's why a PPC expert gets paid 50 times what an article expert will.

                It's not messy or a nightmare, it's more technically complicated and financially dangerous if you don't grasp it before jumping in.

                In the same way, you could compare Walmart with a market trader's business. The main reason the trader doesn't open a Walmart is because the whole thing is more technically and logistically complicated and he probably doesn't have the skill or the access to funds.

                But the trader's job is way more 'messy' and 'nightmarish'.

                Just some thoughts...
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                • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
                  Originally Posted by ExRat View Post

                  Hi Steven,

                  I just disagreed with you elsewhere, but I'm not following you and dogging you deliberately



                  Obviously - and they're in business to make money. If any of you have tried running a directory (yes I know you do Allen) then you will know it's a lot of work for not much pay.

                  In order to keep any sort of reputation you have to monitor every submission with a human = expensive.

                  Hence, I don't understand these comments about 'getting away with it.' They're charging for a service. Many article writers have been happily paying for ghost-writers and a submission/spinning service but when it comes to getting priority on the top directory that gives you top rankings - everyone talks about them 'getting away with it.'

                  I don't get it.



                  I see it the other way around. I understand why google implemeneted rules (from a business perspective (IE profit) AND from the perspective of maintaining quality).

                  This is one of google's flagship products and probably most lucrative. Hence, EVERYONE (except Waggers) wanted a slice of the pie and therefore every trick in the book was applied.

                  I don't see it as a mess (except for some of the crap adverts people put on there - 'don't buy this - scam!...buy here') but I DO see most of article marketing as a mess. Just look at some of the articles.

                  And look at the ROI. People are quietly making fortunes due to the targetted traffic that PPC provides. Those same people, if they DO submit articles, certainly won't be getting their hands dirty writing and submitting them themselves.

                  You can't write an article and get 10000 highly targetted visitors in one day in order to test a concept with article submissions. You can with PPC.

                  And that's why I don't see it as being as messy. And that's why a PPC expert gets paid 50 times what an article expert will.

                  It's not messy or a nightmare, it's more technically complicated and financially dangerous if you don't grasp it before jumping in.

                  In the same way, you could compare Walmart with a market trader's business. The main reason the trader doesn't open a Walmart is because the whole thing is more technically and logistically complicated and he probably doesn't have the skill or the access to funds.

                  But the trader's job is way more 'messy' and 'nightmarish'.

                  Just some thoughts...

                  Actually Roger, you make some valid points. Kind of funny that I'm
                  actually agreeing with you not agreeing with me. Guess I'm not thinking
                  too clearly today.

                  I'm probably just ticked off that what I used to get for free, I will now
                  have to pay for.

                  Somehow, just doesn't seem right.

                  But then again, what do I know? I'm just a ....
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      • Profile picture of the author Peter Bestel
        Originally Posted by Allen Graves View Post

        Originally Posted by Jeffrey Louis
        Everyone: don't pay to submit your articles
        If it's worth it, why the heck not?!!

        I'm all about proof and the REAL world...so please reply with proof if you are going to make any claims.

        Thanks,
        AL
        I think he's being facetious. After all if no-one pays, then we'll all get the same service!

        Just like if everyone sent their mail second class - would it all be delivered first class?

        Yeah right! I don't think so.

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          Oh...then my bad...I apologize.

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  • Profile picture of the author Steve Garratt
    I must have missed something...

    I have not recieved any communication about this paid membership nor can I find anything on the site that even mentions it let alone invites me to sign up for it. So what on earth is everyone talking about???

    I suppose I don't submit as much as most people posting here. 1 or 2 a week is about my level but I do have 130+ active articles. Am I too small to atttract attention or something?

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  • Profile picture of the author moseleyw1111
    Ezine Articles Is The Only Service I Use And Most Of My Articles Are At The 1st Page On Google But I'am Not Going To Pay $97 A Month. Maybe $19.95 A Month Would Work For Me.
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  • Profile picture of the author captivereef
    i just had my latest article approved within 48 hours, it seems to fluctate alot though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cash37
    $97 a year is reasonable, per month is ludicrous when I can get Promosoft or Video Post Robot LIFETIME access at the same price
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  • Profile picture of the author jbgal
    I have close to 900 articles in EZA with almost 400,000 views. If they earned just $.01 from each of those, they would already have gotten $4,000 from me. I'd pay $9.70 maybe, not $97.

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  • Profile picture of the author himanuzo
    If you get approval for any articles with the free plan in 2-5 business days, so you don't need to pay the premium plan $97 monthly.
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  • Profile picture of the author lawton3920
    Just a tought from a newbie sounds to me that there charging an outrages amount of money for doing a job that they should already be doing any way customer service ya now. thats a problem today every ones out to make a buck but no one or very few want to give you the bang for your hard earned buck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mary Green
    Great thread everyone, I was wondering what was taking so long cause I just came back to doing some article marketing. On the other hand i was wondering if anyone here is using isnare for mass submission, as I was thinking of using that as an option. Please pm or email me(ticklebug82 at gmail) if you have some thoughts, as this is off topic.

    For EZA Im a little disappointed. I used to really like them, and I dont think its right to screw over people like Steven who submit a lot of articles (and basically give EZA money in adsense form) I mean, it just seems counterproductive.

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  • Profile picture of the author mindspring
    Ezinearticles is being unfair here. They make Adsense money from the content we spend hours crafting. Our content has made them an authority site. Now they purposely stopped reviewing our articles in 24 to 48 hours so that they can set us up for a $97 per month membership fee?

    I think they should be content with the free content that they monetize. They make Adsense money, we get traffic, and I think that is a fair deal. Is it me or am I being unfair to EZA.

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    • Profile picture of the author mikegates
      Well, now I know why my article is taking sooo long to get reviewed. It's been a while since I used EZA and I thought it was time for me to do more article marketing. So my first article has been sitting there for almost a week.

      I didn't realize these changes had taken place. Didn't know article marketing had gotten so complicated, and now even expensive.

      It seems loading a few articles a day isn't going to work if they all get approved at once. I don't want to have to pay $97 a month for a steady release of articles.

      Guess I have to reconsider article marketing. Not sure it's worth it when the other article directories don't have the Google love of EZA, and EZA makes it difficult to use their service.

      I hope EZA isn't doing what ebay has been doing. Making life difficult for the little guy who built them, to cater to large corporations with deep pockets.

      Okay, so what would you consider the #2 article directory?

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  • Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

    I am seriously considering taking the 1 year membership
    Are you serious?

    They would need to add more features to take money from my wallet, one of which should be the option of having my articles on an adsense-free page, something which I don't see them doing anytime soon.

    They would also need to train their editors in a way that they don't mistake tracking links for affiliate links

    etc.

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  • Profile picture of the author noodle24
    I've read where some people have ezinearticles as one of their top 5 traffic resources (behind Google and other search engines of course).

    It really depends on how committed you are to it. If you are going to write quality articles, then it's probably worth it. But if you are just spamming low quality, it's probably not going to be good ROI.
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    • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
      Originally Posted by noodle24 View Post

      I've read where some people have ezinearticles as one of their top 5 traffic resources (behind Google and other search engines of course).

      It really depends on how committed you are to it. If you are going to write quality articles, then it's probably worth it. But if you are just spamming low quality, it's probably not going to be good ROI.
      Ezine is generally 2nd to google on most of my sites, with yahoo and MSN just behind them.

      I was given a free month of the premium service by chris during testing and I really do miss it.

      It was taking anything from 15 minutes to 2 hours to approve an article, whereas now it's taking about 3 working days.

      I actually miss the freedom it gave, submitting articles late on friday so that they stayed on the front of ezine over the weekend was almost worth it alone.

      Seriously considering taking the 3 month option which works out at $67 per month
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  • Profile picture of the author Doran Roggio
    Everything changes eventually to wipe out the small business man, this is becoming an eventuality that is not too far off in the distance online as well.

    I have used EA with much success in the past. This costly monthly subscription will put article submissions in the hands of the 'Big Guys' and leave the small individuals in the lurch if we opt for this change.

    I do not mind paying for a subscription if it is reasonable and realistic for all. This ridiculously exorbitant cost for submitting articles will put article submission out of my realm of website promotion and I will be seeking some of the other sites for my articles. I think the cost extremely unfair, given the fact the EA makes money from our articles with adsense. What an unfair advantage Chris is seeking to expect to also pay high fees in order to have our articles given priority. Makes me wonder if quality will not be a factor anymore but how much are you willing to spend.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ephrils
      Originally Posted by Doran Roggio View Post

      Everything changes eventually to wipe out the small business man, this is becoming an eventuality that is not too far off in the distance online as well.

      I have used EA with much success in the past. This costly monthly subscription will put article submissions in the hands of the 'Big Guys' and leave the small individuals in the lurch if we opt for this change.

      I do not mind paying for a subscription if it is reasonable and realistic for all. This ridiculously exorbitant cost for submitting articles will put article submission out of my realm of website promotion and I will be seeking some of the other sites for my articles. I think the cost extremely unfair, given the fact the EA makes money from our articles with adsense. What an unfair advantage Chris is seeking to expect to also pay high fees in order to have our articles given priority. Makes me wonder if quality will not be a factor anymore but how much are you willing to spend.
      I agree with this. They make enough money from us already, especially those of us in high paying adsense niches, now he wants to add $97-197 a month for quick reviews and stuff.

      This won't even solve their main problem, competent editors.
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  • Profile picture of the author alexshelton
    Well I've just subscribed to the premium membership, just gonna get the majority of my articles up this month, I'll be lucky to make a profit I think, worth it to get the views though!

    I had to wait 8 days for my first 5 to be approved

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  • Profile picture of the author Khemal
    They should have a lower price point for the ability to put a date on the article to be published. The speed in which the articles are reviewed would not matter if I can queue up a bunch of articles and define WHEN they should go live. That way I can always add the my queue and know that my articles will be reviewed by the date i specifed as the GO LIVE date. If articles got approved before, they sit in the go live queue.

    This is more appealing to me than having my articles approved in hours rather than a day or so.

    Another feature that I would have paid for would be the ability to submit articles via email and specify pen names etc. Does anyone know if that's possible right now?

    BTW I use Article Marketer to submit articles at regular intervals and across a huge number of sites but the only drawback of it is that I can't specify Pen names. Wonder if there's a way to do that.
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    Just out of interest, how soon should my articles be approved? still days?
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  • Profile picture of the author deannatroupe
    This poll prompted me to write a blog post about it.
    Here is the link to my answer:
    Learn Small Business Blog Archive Ezinearticles premium service? Is it worth it? I don’t think so.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi Elisabeth,

      I just thought of one way to make it really worth it ;-)

      Clearly, that premium price does increase EZA's turnaround speed dramatically.

      And so with that high of a price, if it were to inspire me to really crank out a bunch of articles promoting a few products and get optins into my list plus traffic to my blogs, it could be well worth it.

      I would have to make myself write multiple articles/day to really make it pay, and without that kind of "inspiration" I haven't done that. But I know I should...

      So, I 'm thinking about doing just that... Give myself that extra inspiration that would definitely jumpstart things, or rather give them a bit jolt, certainly on a productivity level.

      Would be good to see how much of a difference it would make. Could be life-changing, if it works!
      Yay!

      It's refreshing to see someone looking at this positively from outside the box.

      I realise that people are resistant to change and also change that makes their business more difficult/expensive.

      This is happening in areas of my business, totally unconnected to article writing.

      In fact, I haven't written for EZA for two or three years.

      BUT, now it has suddenly become a much more appealing proposition.

      Imagine if Allen made it free to read this forum, but paid to post? Sure - there would be many complaints. But there would also be opportunity for the opportunists.
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    It has been AWESOME service so far....
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  • Profile picture of the author M Thompson
    I wonder what Chris's master plan is??

    With all his recent blog posts about article length, Giving less credibility to pen names and todays comment about "“Niche ambulance writers” are non-expert authors who aimlessly chase niches by search volume & high eCPM’s. = Not desired content by anyone." I wonder where is is aiming to position EZA.


    It looks like the next year could be an interesting time.
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    • Profile picture of the author csm
      On the EZA blog, under the comments section of the post that announced the Scheduler feature being launched, Chris wrote "As to the Warriors who still don’t think it’s a good enough value, I think you’ll really like the next Premium feature that will be introduced in October that I saw demo’d internally last week. Holy cow you’re going to freak… and then sigh thinking it’s about time we offered that. It was just too expensive and computationally prohibitive at our scale until now. More on this in October. For those who aren’t Premium, we’ll be offering a little taste of the full menu to everyone on that feature unlike this scheduling feature that is only available to Premium members at this time."

      Does anyone know what this new feature is that's going to make us freak?

      I have to admit I'm considering the Premium membership just for consistency of timing of getting articles approved, but really would like to see more features at the current price point.

      In this past month, I've had articles approved in 12-24 hours (as a Platinum member), but then I've had them take up to 5-7 days. I would be happy if they were always in the 24-48 timeframe. Yesterday, I submitted two articles in the early morning (about 24 hours ago as I write this) and they still haven't moved off the first status square (Pending Initial Review).

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