Female Vibrator Sex Toy Question

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Hello all.

So, I built a wordpress website focusing on one product: a female vibrator sex toy.

It's a simple website with not a hell of a lot of content (ie, articles) because I felt the product was pretty much self-explanatory.

Anyway, I went to BING ADS to drive paid traffic to the product and they rejected it because the keywords I was targeting was deemed "too naughty".

I went to Google ads... same thing.... keywords are "too naughty".

So.... I guess I can't drive paid traffic to my site because these silly rules. But I really don't want to wait around for SEO to kick in -- that's why I went the paid traffic route.

I would love to promote this product on Porn sites using banner ads, but that would be TOO EXPENSIVE.

Suggestions?

Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Now Is The Time
    By the way, I just started in Internet Marketing like a few weeks ago so I am brand spanking new to this game.... so I don't know the rules about paid traffic and that.

    Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Martin Avis
    I am not in this market, and have no desire to be, but the question was intriguing.

    Firstly, as a newcomer to Internet marketing, I would suggest that you avoid adult products completely - at least until you have built up some solid experience of selling online. I know that the old adage 'sex sells' is appealing to newcomers, but the truth is that the adult market is highly competitive and - as you have discovered - difficult to drive traffic to by normal means.

    Having said that, if it was me trying to drive traffic to such a page I would think outside the normal box. I think I would write a series of 'steamy romance' novels (or more properly novellas) that I could publish on Kindle. Each one would feature, probably not by name, but by 'effect' a particular product that I wished to promote.

    As an aside, as a male, I wouldn't write the stories myself. I'd outsource them to a female writer because men's and women's ideas on what is steamy are very different!

    At the end of each book I would add a page 'explaining' which products were featured and where the reader could get them from - adding a link to my page.
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    • Profile picture of the author Now Is The Time
      Originally Posted by Martin Avis View Post

      I am not in this market, and have no desire to be, but the question was intriguing.

      Firstly, as a newcomer to Internet marketing, I would suggest that you avoid adult products completely - at least until you have built up some solid experience of selling online. I know that the old adage 'sex sells' is appealing to newcomers, but the truth is that the adult market is highly competitive and - as you have discovered - difficult to drive traffic to by normal means.

      Having said that, if it was me trying to drive traffic to such a page I would think outside the normal box. I think I would write a series of 'steamy romance' novels (or more properly novellas) that I could publish on Kindle. Each one would feature, probably not by name, but by 'effect' a particular product that I wished to promote.

      As an aside, as a male, I wouldn't write the stories myself. I'd outsource them to a female writer because men's and women's ideas on what is steamy are very different!

      At the end of each book I would add a page 'explaining' which products were featured and where the reader could get them from - adding a link to my page.

      I actually bought a course from someone who talks about how to make money selling your own ebooks on Amazon... I never did anything in that field because I am no J.D. Salinger, but thanks for your input.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi Martin,

      Originally Posted by Martin Avis View Post

      ...men's and women's ideas on what is steamy are very different!
      I was wondering if you could elaborate a bit more on your own experience of this, as I'm a complete noob on this topic. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author David Beroff
    Originally Posted by Now Is The Time View Post

    I would love to promote this product on Porn sites using banner ads, but that would be TOO EXPENSIVE.
    Porn sites are generally viewed by men. Erotica, on the other hand....
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    • Profile picture of the author Now Is The Time
      Originally Posted by David Beroff View Post

      Porn sites are generally viewed by men. Erotica, on the other hand....
      Yes, excellent point. I mentioned advertising on porn sites as an aside really... I really wasn't serious about it for this particular niche site of mine.

      I have recently been going to a website run by this guy named Tuan and he is a master at adult traffic and using banner ads on porn sites to advertise dating offers and stuff. So my head was kind of in that headspace, but yeah I wouldn't advertise on porn sites for this one particular niche site.

      Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author digi71
    I have a way of promoting adult products which works great no matter what the competition. It's my own brand name SEO method I devised that I use which ranks you almost instantly on Google's/Bings first page and generates laser targeted organic buyer traffic within 24 hours (depending on target country) and starts making sales soon after. No waiting about!

    I'd need to know the brand name of the product to explain my method in detail. If the brand name has a lot of searches according to the Google Keyword Planner then it will work very well. The product needs to be very popular for my method to work.

    A word about PPC.
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    If you bid on just the product (brand) name you should have no problems getting ads approved. Bid on the following and you will make easy sales and achieve a high ROI.

    buy [brand name]
    where to buy [brand name]
    purchase [brand name]
    how to buy [brand name]
    order [brand name]
    buy [brand name] online

    If creating a review site for the vibrator include the following:

    [brand name] review
    [brand name] reviews
    reviews of [brand name]

    Use "phrase" match. Set your CPC to $1.00 per click at first and check your position. You need to be in the top 3. On Bing they won't charge you a dollar per click it's usually much lower.

    A word about porn sites
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    As the poster above said they are viewed mostly by men. It's very unlikely you will make a single sale. Male enhancement products/adult dating CPA offers on the other hand work well I've found.
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      Your market research done prior to selecting a niche would have shown you the red flags about dealing in the porn market. It's not just paid traffic that you'll have a problem with.

      You'll also get push-back from web hosts, email providers, and many financial payment transaction companies.

      I would suggest you stay away from porn. There are so many other markets and niches where you won't have to worry about any of these problems.

      Just my opinion . . .

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      • Profile picture of the author Now Is The Time
        Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

        Your market research done prior to selecting a niche would have shown you the red flags about dealing in the porn market. It's not just paid traffic that you'll have a problem with.

        You'll also get push-back from web hosts, email providers, and many financial payment transaction companies.

        I would suggest you stay away from porn. There are so many other markets and niches where you won't have to worry about any of these problems.

        Just my opinion . . .

        Steve
        Thanks. I don't know, man.. according to ALEXA, porn sites are predominantly the most-visited sites in the world.... I naturally thought with all the perverts and sex addicts out there, trying to sell a sex toy would be a no-brainer.... although the more I think about it... maybe I should be going after a male audience with male enhancement products and dating offers.... I mean, I am sure there are millions of women out there who love to get off like men do so.... ah, I don't know... a lot of trial and error, I guess....
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    • Profile picture of the author Now Is The Time
      Originally Posted by digi71 View Post

      I have a way of promoting adult products which works great no matter what the competition. It's my own brand name SEO method I devised that I use which ranks you almost instantly on Google's/Bings first page and generates laser targeted organic buyer traffic within 24 hours (depending on target country) and starts making sales soon after. No waiting about!

      I'd need to know the brand name of the product to explain my method in detail. If the brand name has a lot of searches according to the Google Keyword Planner then it will work very well. The product needs to be very popular for my method to work.

      A word about PPC.
      -----------------------
      If you bid on just the product (brand) name you should have no problems getting ads approved. Bid on the following and you will make easy sales and achieve a high ROI.

      buy [brand name]
      where to buy [brand name]
      purchase [brand name]
      how to buy [brand name]
      order [brand name]
      buy [brand name] online

      If creating a review site for the vibrator include the following:

      [brand name] review
      [brand name] reviews
      reviews of [brand name]

      Use "phrase" match. Set your CPC to $1.00 per click at first and check your position. You need to be in the top 3. On Bing they won't charge you a dollar per click it's usually much lower.

      A word about porn sites
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      As the poster above said they are viewed mostly by men. It's very unlikely you will make a single sale. Male enhancement products/adult dating CPA offers on the other hand work well I've found.

      This is genius stuff! Thank you. You made it sound simple. And, yes, you are right. Porn sites are largely visited by males. So, yeah dating offers and male enhancement products would work... I'll try some of your methods and see if it works. Thanks!
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      • Profile picture of the author digi71
        Originally Posted by Now Is The Time View Post

        This is genius stuff! Thank you. You made it sound simple. And, yes, you are right. Porn sites are largely visited by males. So, yeah dating offers and male enhancement products would work... I'll try some of your methods and see if it works. Thanks!
        I've had success promoting the Clickbank product "Penis Advantage" using Exoclick traffic. Also Trafficjunky is a great provider of quality traffic which converts nicely.
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  • Profile picture of the author imsolutionsgroup
    Try thinking outside the box on this.

    What about targeting the keyword "50 shades of grey"?

    I'm sure at least 90% of the searches will be done by women... and there is a common bond between the book and what you're offering.
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  • Profile picture of the author quadagon
    Man there's a lot going on here and even as I type I don't know what stance I'm taking. So while I decide a quick bit of background on me so you know who I am.

    I run a marketing agency and one of our clients is involved in the marketing of adult toys. Not normally a client we would take but due to various connections we took them on board and have a great working relationship.

    I've mentioned it on here before but we cleaned up on hype around 50 shades and during that process we learnt a lot things.

    So to start with a few questions

    Why did you choose this market
    What research have you put in
    Who is your ideal customer
    and why did you choose the product you are promoting.

    This will give me a good idea of where you are at.

    A couple of things I have picked up on though:

    I felt the product was pretty much self-explanatory
    It's not and by doing this you are missing out on the market of people interested in trying, newbies etc.

    People have real concerns about this and you need to address this through faqs on your site. I don't think this is an appropriate place to go through those questions and they should have come up in your market research.

    You could easily expand your market by putting together a report on 'which vibrator should you choose'

    I would love to promote this product on Porn sites using banner ads, but that would be TOO EXPENSIVE
    This is a poor train of thought you are on and I've two major concerns. Firstly you don't seem to understand the market you want to advertise in front of.

    Ask yourself these questions 'are the visitors to porn sites in a buying frame of mind?' and secondly 'if they are what is it that they are likely to buy?'

    So to my final thoughts research the market into who actually buys adult toys you'll be surprised at the ratio.

    Secondly ask why these products are bought? There is a whole secondary market of gag gifts and hen parties to explore. The gay market shouldn't be ignored either.

    Once you are armed with these your entire approach is different, your copy is different your content is different and your bottom line is different.

    Armed with this knowledge you can position yourself to get you ads listed on Google and Bing quite easy.
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    • Profile picture of the author Now Is The Time
      Originally Posted by quadagon View Post

      Man there's a lot going on here and even as I type I don't know what stance I'm taking. So while I decide a quick bit of background on me so you know who I am.

      I run a marketing agency and one of our clients is involved in the marketing of adult toys. Not normally a client we would take but due to various connections we took them on board and have a great working relationship.

      I've mentioned it on here before but we cleaned up on hype around 50 shades and during that process we learnt a lot things.

      So to start with a few questions

      Why did you choose this market
      What research have you put in
      Who is your ideal customer
      and why did you choose the product you are promoting.

      This will give me a good idea of where you are at.

      A couple of things I have picked up on though:



      It's not and by doing this you are missing out on the market of people interested in trying, newbies etc.

      People have real concerns about this and you need to address this through faqs on your site. I don't think this is an appropriate place to go through those questions and they should have come up in your market research.

      You could easily expand your market by putting together a report on 'which vibrator should you choose'



      This is a poor train of thought you are on and I've two major concerns. Firstly you don't seem to understand the market you want to advertise in front of.

      Ask yourself these questions 'are the visitors to porn sites in a buying frame of mind?' and secondly 'if they are what is it that they are likely to buy?'

      So to my final thoughts research the market into who actually buys adult toys you'll be surprised at the ratio.

      Secondly ask why these products are bought? There is a whole secondary market of gag gifts and hen parties to explore. The gay market shouldn't be ignored either.

      Once you are armed with these your entire approach is different, your copy is different your content is different and your bottom line is different.

      Armed with this knowledge you can position yourself to get you ads listed on Google and Bing quite easy.

      Thanks. Yes, you are right. The niche site I built was really simple... and the vibrator is on Amazon, actually. I just took the information that was there and re-worded it. This niche site I built was really my first foray into affiliate marketing and I was using it as a test, an experiment.... just to see if I can make $400 per month with this thing.

      Right now i am not thinking about list building or making authority sites.... I just wanna build me a site that will make me... i don't know.... maybe $400 per month........... I just wanna make a little money first before i evolve into more complex things.
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  • Profile picture of the author agmccall
    how about massager for women or stress reliever for women

    just a thought

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    • Profile picture of the author David Beroff
      Originally Posted by agmccall View Post

      how about massager for women or stress reliever for women
      You could always advertise in the Sears catalog....

      Source: Wikipedia, derived from a 1918 Sears, Roebuck and Co. ad.
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  • Profile picture of the author quadagon
    Originally Posted by Now Is The Time View Post

    Suggestions?
    just create a buzz around your product
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  • Profile picture of the author 55sadhikar
    This is bunch of nonsense who says that you can't drive adult traffic to your site? You can either do it by SEO or go the route of adult traffic networks(plugrush,exoclicks etc) to drive traffic to your site. If you want to, you can also use ppv to drive adult traffic as well. Usually female vibrator would gel well with lesbian audience.
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    • Profile picture of the author Now Is The Time
      Originally Posted by 55sadhikar View Post

      This is bunch of nonsense who says that you can't drive adult traffic to your site? You can either do it by SEO or go the route of adult traffic networks(plugrush,exoclicks etc) to drive traffic to your site. If you want to, you can also use ppv to drive adult traffic as well. Usually female vibrator would gel well with lesbian audience.
      Hey, man, you're right. I can totally target lesbians. Jesus, how come i didn't think of that. I have to go do some lesbian keyword research now.... I honestly can't believe i didn't think of that.

      As for plugrush and exoclicks... okay.... I will look into that, but don't I need banner ads for those sites?

      Hey... as a matter of fact.... if any of y'all can list some excellent paid adult traffic sources that some of you have had excellent experience using, that would be supercool.

      Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author n3o
    why not find it in the adult network ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Wow you certainly picked a competitive market to try your first internet marketing efforts.

    Good luck to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Slade556
    The niche you picked is indeed competitive. I like 55sadhikar's approach It's refreshing.
    I wasn't gonna suggest it myself, but yeah, trying a different approach should work!
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  • Profile picture of the author yougpeter
    advertising on porn sites is not expensive....you just need to search around providers.
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  • Profile picture of the author srp0987
    I'm not as knowledgable about the marketing aspect as others, but I thought I'd add a few thoughts from the perspective of a consumer in your chosen niche.

    You need quality content that guides consumers in their choices. It really isn't self-explanatory at all, given the large variety of different types of vibrators and the numerous options within each category. This is actually a purchase far more personal and potentially complicated than selling toasters or whatever. And when most women enter this market, they probably don't have much of a clue of what the differences between all of the products are, aside from appearance and price.

    Take a look at goodvibrations.com. They have tons of consumer guides for shoppers, ranging from general information to guides targeted at specific markets (i.e. couples, gay men, African Americans, etc.) Now that's something that is useful.

    If you want to sell just one product, though, I'd recommend the original magic wand vibrator. It has a good reputation among women who use vibrators and has a relatively high price.
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