Don't be so selfish

There are a lot of people doing that already and I'm sure a lot of successful people here already tried doing it.

However, most the people who are being helped for free don't want to work or not committed.Building an online business requires time and money but if the people who's being helped does not want to do that then most of the time it's just a waste of time for both of them.

A real and qualified coach/mentor make more money running their business than coaching so it is only reasonable to ask for a "small" price as a way to filter out tire kickers and get more serious people who are willing to work.

You got to remember that they have limited time so It's better choose the right people who are serious and wants to change their lives.


On the brighter side, you can still get a lot of value by following them and reading what they share in the forum/group/website.

You also have to take into consideration that writing a free guide takes time to prepare as well but doing this enable them to reach and help more people.

I have no words for this.

But I do have a related thought.

I have suffered greatly, over many years and many ventures, to get myself to a point where I enjoy success. I made choices that had near-devastating impacts on my family on the quest for a working business.

Today, life is pretty good. I have several working businesses. But my DNA is infused with the scars of experience. Every action I take is informed by years of mistakes, successes, failures and victories.

When I was younger and more arrogant, I am not sure I would have listened to the older and wiser me. When I advise people, for free, on this very forum, I see responses that sound like the younger me.

"Yeah, that sounds great for you, but I am different. I want to try it my way first, without all that work. If my way fails, maybe I'll give yours a try."

And that is their choice to make. The way I see it, the most important ingredient in a working business is experience. Hard won, visceral experience. You don't get that by someone taking you by the hand and doing the hard work for you.

You can think I am being selfish. The way I see it, I am protecting you from yourself. Your stupid self, the one who thinks a successful business is a thing to be owned rather than a journey to be embarked on.

While I take action every day that impacts my businesses and my family and my clients and my community, you are on the constant search for the next shortcut, cheat or trick that you think I am hiding from you.

While you resent me over that, you are not taking positive forward action for yourself.

And THAT is why you are failing.

Stop looking for the shortcuts, and do something small to move yourself closer to a real goal. There is no shortage of actual resources here and elsewhere for you follow.

Well, what do you know? It looks like I found some words after all. If you were smart, you would listen to them.

But you won't, and that is OK with me. I am where I need to be, and someday maybe you will be too.

If you had to invest in every desperate Newbies hairbrained scheme you'd be on the fastlane to bankruptcy....

I am at a point where I need to be selfish. By being selfish, I'm able to give generously at a later date. But there's always something in it for me, otherwise my kids wonder where the food and lighting went.

Without struggle, there is no success.

I've been helping new entrepreneurs for a while now and currently have 2 under my wing as a mentor (had 3 but 1 gave up to easy). I also have friends who are doing the same. Not sure where you get this selfish thing from.... If people want to be selfish though they have the right to be.

I got a skype call yesterday from one of the guy's I'm teaching actually and he had his first $500 week. Felt good hearing that. I only mentor people who actually put in the hard work and don't pester me 24/7 about making money... still I'm helping people out.

I don't invest in my students.. I did that once and lost $900

I haven't been around WF for long but on other forums I've been a huge help to new people wanting help.

People do help.
However, it's up to the new internet marketers to get committed, learn and succeed.

There is only so much you can learn, to really get results you need training and action!

If you have a good idea that shows potential, a lot of people here will help you out. Instead of blaming people of being selfish, share new ideas and collaborate with people who share the vision.

"Don't be so selfish"

Says the guy who wants to tell others how exactly he wants their money to be used.

When you ARE in this position, you'll either understand why other people don't, or you'll learn by experience.

I recommend the understanding method. It's cheaper and less stressful.

The fact you titled this thread "Don't be so selfish" is pretty clear the kind of person you are.

I can already tell you're a lazy idiot. You're literally asking people to share their paychecks with you because you're inexperienced and if they don't, they're selfish according to you.

Why not build some skills and seek out a mentor the right way instead of expecting people with some success to make your life easier, just because?

So Frederic, what do you need a hand with? You didn't give any specifics.

Ask one question at a time and I'm sure there are people here that will answer your Internet marketing questions. Just be respectful of people's time and business privacy and I'm sure you'll get the help you need.

Steve

I'm guessing this is just a trolling thread?
From being on this forum for several years, I see several people helping others out. All you need to do is ask

Hi Frederic,

Most Warriors are generous. I believe that

Take me: For 7 years of my life, I have given away endless free information. Millions of words of free, valuable content. Emphasis on millions because I've published over 10,000 blog posts on a variety of blogs, have 21 books, and have written thousands of articles too. That's as generous as they come lol. But if I stop by here I may not have the time - after those 7 years of giving stuff away - to offer free advice. I already did. Millions of word's worth. But even then, I publish one, 6,000 word blog post weekly along with free content on Warrior.

I'd suggest that if someone seems selfish, look within. You are connected to everybody. We are all one. So, what you see in others is what you see in yourself. It stings a bit, knowing this, but WOW is it freeing because I took the same journey one day. Warriors are generous and in truth, any business person who's busy as hell, had to give away free content for months or years to gain trust, to grow their businesses. Dig deeper. Research blogs, and this forum, and other channels. The most selfish - as it appears in your mind - are generally the most generous. Just dig deeper.

Hope this helps Frederic!

Onward and upward.

Tweeting from Bali.

Ryan

How can I put this without causing offence...
I'm don't have a way with words so...

Up Yours!

Some members here spend a lot of their free time typing replies, trying to help others by sharing their inside knowledge and expertise, they get (or expect) nothing in return, and many of the people so helped, do not even use the thanks button or acknowledge the information received.

I don't think I have ever used a before to anyone here.

I have only been here about a week, and I have already received exceptional insights and suggestions from more experienced users. Honestly, it's pretty easy to figure out that this forum is the epitome of helping one another. Shame on you, Briedis2.

Don't be so selfish?

LOL... Don't be so self-entitled! You want anything in life, you WORK HARD for it.

You're asking for people to JV with you so you get to build a huge list overnight, sell a thousand copies of your book/report/whatever, and yet you have nothing to give in return?

If you're looking for handouts, go to a church or something.

But before that, here's a tip: I dare say 99% of the things that can be invented has already been invented. There are no new ideas under the sun. Top gun angel investors with cash to spare -- sure, they're looking to invest in a mind-blowing product. But above all that, they're looking for someone who has the guts, determination, tenacity, grit, and know-how to see the project through 100% to the end.

Are you that kind of person? 'Cuz the rich don't invest in whiners who come to public forums and accuse others of being selfish for not providing them with a head start in life, 'ya know?

Karma is a good thing to use for your own benefit, even if the OP isn't the best person to call on others to do so.

While this is a great community of like minded people, we shouldn't feel entitled to be helped
Whenever we want, just because we want. Sometimes YOU should help yourself, even if it means starting from scratch, because, you don't get people to jv with you, if you're a nobody with nothing to offer, and to have something to offer you gotta work on it and have a reputation.

On the other hand I think im is such a sleek world we live in. With so many promises newbies can't help but resist or buy those "make 30,000 in one month!" Salescopies, thinking it's true, when it's not realistic at all.

People should stop thinking there's a magic potio in a bottle. It hardly exists.

If you guys haven't noticed, Fredrick hasn't responded yet so I think he clearly got the message. Insulting others and making demands are not the best tactics when asking for free advice.

This Forum is created in order to help people...that's why so many discussion on this platform...on many issues related to people.....and they are solving those issues through expert advices...

I'll invest in your hair-brained scheme...I'm always looking for a new Angel.

What I have found over that past few years is that most people don't value anything that's FREE. Successful entrepreneurs are just as busy as everyone else is. Once you start getting momentum in any business, you won't have time to 'hand hold' and baby sit people who most likely won't be around in the next 3 months.

Success in this take hard work, determination and lots of patience (among other things).

99% of the people who come here new take this whole industry for granted just because it's Internet related and work from home.

Your problem, besides your attitude, is this:

1. You don't have a book that solves a pressing need or helps someone reach a big goal. It may be "interesting" but I've found that many interesting books wind up on the discount rack at book stores. Nobody wants or needs them enough to part with their cash.

2. I'm not sure how your affiliate deal will work since you're selling it through Amazon. You didn't make that clear in your original post about getting help with the project. If I'm confused or not sure how it may work, you can bet that many others are too. Confusion, especially about payouts, always causes trouble.

Mark

The publishing company was interested in your $5,000. They win no matter how many sell.

Mark

There are many of us that are here to help.


I for one deal solely in helping others. Even my start-up is about helping other start-ups for nothing in return.

A new synonym for provocative seems to be "dick" - somebody call Websters

As I look through this thread and recognize many of the posters, I don't see any "Selfish" members - just hard working folks who have helped many others over the years.

Myself included - I've received help and helped countless members over the past decade or so. However, those I've helped were members who routinely participated in and gave back to the forum community...not newbies who just signed up and then started stomping their feet when no one would listen to them.

Here's a double-secret tip for anyone new to the forum who needs help:

Participate in discussions, share what you can, be respectful of others and above all be patient. Focus on learning and becoming a part of the community.

This forum is directly responsible for tens of thousands of success stories, partnerships and just plain old-fashioned friendships. But those things didn't happen overnight - they can take years to develop.

There are lots of folks doing that here - apparently, they're just not helping you.

Big Frank... for the most part, struggle is necessary. Navy seals struggle. Olympians struggle. IM newbies struggle to grasp the concepts and make them work.

It's not a platitude. It's a fact. If everyone thinks that they're in the wrong discipline just because they struggle a bit... well... nobody would ever achieve anything worthwhile.

At least we got a lot of fun and heated discussion because of this thread
I just love it !!

Don't you think so ??

Ok, the recreation is over. Have a nice day everybody.

I don't think anyone here is selfish, everyone who contributes to this forum, even a little bit, is doing it to help! If anyone here were selfish, they wouldn't even bother replying to the many "stupid threads", as many call them.

And as I see it, if someone were to give you the secret of success and the exact recipe on how to make millions of $$, they wouldn't be helping you. They would be, first of all, killing their own business for which they had worked hard and struggled on their own, and second, they wouldn't help you fight for your own success at all, so at the first bump in the road, you wouldn't know what to do, am I right?

Here is what you don't seem to understand, Briedis.

The reason you can't get interest, as others have said to you repeatedly, is that you offer nothing in exchange for the risk you represent to an investor or partner. It has no value. Period. 75% of nothing is nothing. And until you can show a successfully converting sales page, you've got nothing.

The battleground is littered with "interesting" ebooks, as well as countless other business ideas, plans, models and flameouts.

All the potential in the world is still nothing. Nothing, until someone takes that potential and turns it into sales.

There are many people who give 100% (or even more than that) commission to their affiliates. Do you know why? Because they understand that to build something from nothing, you need a market to sell that something to. And in lieu of a commission, they are willing to accept that a percentage of the people who read that book may be willing to opt-in to their list. And that gives them an audience that they can market other things to.

Sounds like a lot of work for a small potential payoff, doesn't it?

As unglamorous as it sounds, that is a real business model. This only works if you can truly deliver the goods, by the way. Don't even bother if you are selling mediocrity.

If you want to get off the ground, you have two solid options:

1) You say you are willing to work hard. Do the work up front. Stay out of the WSO section - that is a viper pit. Read, read, read. Do an insane amount of free research. Read enough, and you'll start to understand who knows what they are talking about and who is blowing smoke up your ass.

2) Pay a mentor to ease the way for you. Not my personal choice, but they are all around. Interview a bunch of them, and find one you feel is a good fit. Then pay them their fee to impart whatever wisdom they have to offer. Keep in mind that everybody's journey is different, and what worked for them might not be of real value to you. That is a risk you take. But it certainly will move you forward, at least to a point where you can feel some confidence about making your own choices.

As Niche Man so wisely pointed out, you showed some talent in provoking a response to this thread. You may have a talent for writing attention-grabbing headlines (or, this may have been a fluke). Harness that, but for more positive purposes, and you may be on to something.

Briedis2,

the more you have to lose, the more you will understand why people don't seem to be taking the risks you want them to take. You basically have nothing to lose, so you really don't understand effective risk taking from a business perspective.

In most cases, they acquired their money, leverage, reputation..... by taking SMART risks...not by just taking risks.

at this point, you are not a SMART risk for most people who have the ability to help you. That's why they are saying you should keep taking all the risks right now and invest your own time, energy, money, and effort for now.

At some point, if you are able to improve your situation to the point where you are a smart risk, people will notice that and work with you in various ways.

@TS, you still don't get it don't you? People promote your stuffs not just because of the commission or potential to earn some money. Especially the ones who's already successful,

As I've said on my first post, successful mentors/coach make more money running their business than receiving a payment from a coaching student.

Even if you give 100% of your income to the coach to help you, I highly doubt that they will be willing to spend time to people who are "douche".

There are thousands of reason why people will help promote for your book and it depends on every person. I suggest that you take some effort in introducing yourself to them, build a real relationship , so you can pay it forward.

By doing this, you'll learn what's important to that person and eventually to stand out from the crowd. You got to take note that there are hundreds of people competing for the attentions of big guys out there. (different levels)

Discover what they want and give them reason why they will give their time with you.

1007 views in less than 24h. Not so bad but still thought it would be better. I won my bet. Thanks anyway to David Keith and Jack Gordon for great advices.

95% of people are making zero money, and another 2-3% are just squeaking by...The remaining 1-2% are making a small fortune but have to constantly try to reinvent themselves, not to mention looking over there shoulder at all the competition nipping at their heels.

The reality is that if someone finds something that works, they try to guard what they have much less go out of their way to help a potential competitor.

And if I was Google I would work with Microsoft to help them excel and teach Facebook a few tricks of the trade.


Oh wait. No, I wouldn't.

Why the hell would people with money want to give it to anonymous people on a forum?

Not only does that sound like a terrible investment strategy, but it also sounds like a great way to attract even more scammers to this forum.

I always see the same few people responding to threads where conflict is involved. Interesting.

To Jennifer and Cali:

Do you know that there is actually a family of 4 Ukrainians people who I absolutely didn't know before living in my flat as long as they wish because their house has been destroyed because of the war in Ukrain ?
Maybe this would also sounds quite weird to you.
Why did I do that ? Because I have the possibility to help somebody else. So when I was asked to do it my wife and I didn't hesitate one second.That's all.

Would you do the same ?

If you have the possibility to give smb. a leg up don't hesitate.
All of you are already providing great business advices and I find it really nice. But if you have enough money from your businesses why not to go one step further and become a business angel ?
That is the conclusion of my thread.

Hope that something positive came out from it.

Struggle is everywhere you much be better if you want to be successfull