Eight Thousand Posts and Here I Am

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I don't know if we still do this - I've been away for a while - but every thousand posts or so the old school Warriors used to do this kind of rollup thing where we come in and say "hey, here's my current best-practices advice for newbies."

Basically, Warriors train each other. That's how we all become better at what we do. So I've kind of been musing on what this post was going to be, and there are a couple things I think are the most important elements of operating an online business.

First, the single most important question you need to ask yourself is "what am I trying to do for other people?" - not what you are trying to get for yourself. People get bound up in choosing a niche where there are people, or where there is money, or where the competition is low. None of that matters. Your niche should be something where that you can help other people solve their problems. And since it doesn't happen overnight, it should be something you can keep doing for a long time without feeling trapped or being bored out of your skull.

Second, learn to tell a good story. It's not hard; every sitcom on television tells a story. It goes like this. "Once upon a time, everything was fine. Then it all went to hell! But we fixed it, and then it was okay again." That's when you get to point to the technique or service or product you used to fix it, and tell people if they have that same problem they can fix it too - if they just pull out their card and click that button and it's three easy payments of $29.95 with free shipping and a money-back guarantee. The foundation of the sale is the story. Tell your story. Tell Elon Musk's story. Tell the story of Goldilocks and the three bears.

Third, build your damn list. Everybody here says this over and over again and people still don't do it, because everybody knows that. I was at Marketing Mayhem West last month, and you would not believe the number of people who are having trouble... and we ask if they have a list... and they say "no, I should have one, but I haven't gotten around to that yet." Get around to it. Now. Get a list provider and make an opt-in form and put it on your website. Even if you do a crap job of list building, you'll get a bigger list than you will doing nothing. Even if you are not mailing your list, build a list so you have something to mail when you finally pull your head out.

Fourth, your niche and stories and your list are worth absolutely nothing unless and until you have something you can sell them. You can sit in a room full of millionaires all day explaining what you do and telling your story and getting their business cards, and you will not make a damn dime until you put a buy button in front of them and tell them to give you money so you can do what you do. And they didn't get where they are by being stupid, so when they say "Well, I'm not 100% sold, so can you do a little of it for free before I buy?"you need to say "no" and point at the buy button.

Fifth, and most importantly: engage your customers directly. We live in a world where any two people anywhere in the world can be on a forum, in Facebook chat, on a Skype call, in a Google hangout, the list goes on. Talk directly to your customers. And yes, as your business grows, you will not be able to go follow up individually with every single customer. But engage some of them - the ones you can help the most, the ones who need the most help, and turn those interactions into... guess what? More stories. It cycles around. You iterate across it. Here's a new story. Here's where to join the list. Here's a new offer.

Over time, you have a pack of stories, a massive list, a stable full of products. And most importantly, you will love what you do.

That's all I have to say about that.
#posts #thousand
  • Profile picture of the author pizzatherapy
    Well stated.

    Glad you are keeping the tradition alive of posting at 1,000.

    What I like most about your post is that you simply state sound advice.

    Three important points:

    #1:
    "what am I trying to do for other people?"
    #2 and #3:

    You reminded me again to tell my story and continue to build my list...

    And I got a ton of stories!

    thanks for the reminder!
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by pizzatherapy View Post

      And I got a ton of stories!
      Do you have trouble making a delicious pizza crust?

      I sure did. Let me tell you how terrible my pizza crust used to be...

      BUT NOW my pizza comes out perfect every time because I learned this AMAZING SECRET of making the perfect pizza crust!

      We all know the crust makes the pizza, and a terrible crust ruins the whole thing. Buy my secret pizza crust guide now!

      [ Buy Button ]

      You don't want to have crappy pizza, do you?! EVERYONE WILL LAUGH. I'm seriously, people, buy this now or you're going to be doomed to a life of awful pizza from DOMINO'S.
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      • Profile picture of the author Nahawee A
        Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

        Do you have trouble making a delicious pizza crust?

        I sure did. Let me tell you how terrible my pizza crust used to be...

        BUT NOW my pizza comes out perfect every time because I learned this AMAZING SECRET of making the perfect pizza crust!

        We all know the crust makes the pizza, and a terrible crust ruins the whole thing. Buy my secret pizza crust guide now!

        [ Buy Button ]

        You don't want to have crappy pizza, do you?! EVERYONE WILL LAUGH. I'm seriously, people, buy this now or you're going to be doomed to a life of awful pizza from DOMINO'S.
        This is an outline to always use. It gets your attention right away by calling out your problem. Then you get the solution to your problem with the buy now button!
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  • Profile picture of the author David Keith
    8k posts....i am never gonna get there.

    Thats not me be discouraged about being to far from 8k, thats a promise to myself to not spend that much time here...lol.

    good to see you back and doing well though CD.

    solid advice.

    you know all the "xk" posts threads should be required reading. there is way more value in all those combined than probably the whole stinking wso section.
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  • Profile picture of the author pizzatherapy
    Ha...LOL!

    Thanks for the great lesson in copy-writing CD!

    Now that's a TRUE story!
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Thanks for sharing, I like these posts that give back
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  • Profile picture of the author kk075
    Good tradition and solid advice too...if every new marketer was given advice from that perspective, we'd have a whole lot more people making solid earnings here. Great post!
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  • Profile picture of the author Cleberl1
    Honestly you deserve a big prize for reaching 8k posts. LoL

    Maybe in 2035 I'll reach this amount.
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  • Profile picture of the author heruma
    David Keith : You are almost 2,000 post, you can do your 2K post. Can't wait to pick your brain.

    CDarklord : Thanks for coming in and reminding all of us to keep doing the fundamental.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Congrats with sticking on the forum for so long. You have over 8,000 posts, but your "thanks" are over 6,000. That means you know what you're talking about and that your info has truly helped alot of people on here - even me. I love these kind of posts.
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  • Profile picture of the author Janice Sperry
    Nice to see you back.

    I especially appreciate your first point and agree it should be the FIRST POINT.

    Back in the early 2000's I had it backwards and was primarily concerned about what I could get from others. I wasted a lot of time, didn't make a lot of money, and was always frustrated. Make helping people (which can be done in lots of ways) your primary goal and all the other stuff just seems to fall in place.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
    This place is (edited) "not the same" now that freelancer took over - see you back on facebook Caliban LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    It's not the same, but it's not bad. Harlan Ellison used to talk about what he called "the greasy pastiche of nostalgia" - I literally cannot remember a time that people weren't griping about how this place USED to be so much better.

    I really liked the Warrior Forum when I first got here. I made a lot of money, a lot of good friends, got an amazing amount of advice...

    And all people cared about was the latest two lines of rules in the WSO policies.

    "Remember the good old days when we didn't have those rules?"

    Yeah. Yeah, I do. They were pretty much the same. The people are the real draw here, not the WSOs. If you're concerned that we just outlawed black hat methods or income claims, maybe you have problems that honestly aren't related to the forum.
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    "The Golden Town is the Golden Town no longer. They have sold their pillars for brass and their temples for money, they have made coins out of their golden doors. It is become a dark town full of trouble, there is no ease in its streets, beauty has left it and the old songs are gone." - Lord Dunsany, The Messengers
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  • Profile picture of the author ayeshajamal2015
    wow.. that's pretty inspiring!! hope i could reach a 100, that'd be good enough for now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Xochitl Shat
    Congrats for sharing this kind of informative tips. It will helps a lot.
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