The MONEY Is Just A Side Effect Of A POWERFUL Daily Routine...

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Hi fam,

Haven't posted in a while, and I can't seem to help in most threads as I scroll through - because they are too basic/answered xxx times already I can't be bothered, but I'm in a giving mood so I'm just going to write from the heart.

So many threads about money, not that many about the process.

The process I'm talking about is that moment of discovery when something finally works and you start to find your lane. That moment of thinking you can now take on the world because something or a few things have started to work.

Most take on a plate they can't handle from here, they start xx projects and jump from one to the next as they churn and burn their ideas, or abandon them half way through.

How many domains do you have that are idle waiting for your 'someday' moment of inspiration to happen?

How many WSO's/systems have you bought vs the ratio of how many worked yet you still seek enlightenment vs experience?

How many ideas have you done now that you are emotionally attached to that you can't walk away from because you invested too much of your time/money?

How much time do you spend aimlessly researching daily when you full well know what you have to do you're just not prepared to execute 'just yet' for whatever reason?

All of these are toxic. Over the years I've truly learned that your time is extremely precious, and once you find something that starts to work, don't just walk away starting 20 more until you figure out everything you can on how to maximize your discovery. Also know when it's time to simply 100% scrap something and walk away despite resources used as your time is more important re allocating it to your next potential winner.

I think back to the 50+ products and sites I've launched over the years, always kinda wishing 'this is the one', and it happen about 15-20 times, in varying degrees of success. But once my big winner showed itself I put the rest to sleep and started to power my way through the micro niche I had discovered/created/expanded upon. This wasn't by design as much as just a reaction - but now I preach to do that as often as possible in life.

I went from looking after: xx sites, hosting, emails for each, support teams, refunds/retention, partners on a daily, thinking of next products all the time, trying to dilute competitors, getting attacked, and generally being a chicken with its head cut off 247 but making money. . .

. ... to looking after a successful brand with many branches that is laser focused, has a powerful daily routine, and has phases where it literally is a four hour work week without much interruption in the flow of biz/$/resources needed.

This is to encourage you to purge some of your thinking (you just need a buy now button on something that is wanted, delivers on promises, and is fairly priced, we all tend to overcomplicate this process wayyy too much), purge some of your assets, get serious about your success, manifest what will happen once you get there (aka have any of you ACTUALLY given thought to what you would do with your first after tax 100K in the bank? I'm serious - not how you would spend it, but how you would flip it, grow it, preserve it, invest it, whatever).

Purge some of your daily bullshit that you know is just diluting your knowledge base and time. Launch stuff, often, test and break and put it back together to understand it, don't look for systems or cloning others methods from here - all the success stories are out there in living color re sites to model after you don't need secrets (there aren't any) you just need experience.

Fail, fast, faster, and find your winning powerful daily routine to explore - because until you get there it's all just practice. There is such a thing as practicing fast in this world. Fast and frequent practice makes for better products/middlemen sites/etc. vs all your eggs in one basket on your first few product attempts stretching over x years.

The process, once you're there you'll see that your daily grind is actually a daily contribution to your bathtub of WINS vs test after test and spikey little wins only to have to start again.

For me it was product development after being an affiliate, and that after being a designer/producer for xx years - but I know success stories in every walk of our world - domainers, designers, affiliates, product owners, list owners, gurus, opportunists on news/events...

There is no one-size-fits-all method and I'm grateful for that, your pallet of skills will determine where you end up, and what you need to know will probably be determined once you're almost there (aka growing fast not knowing fully why and becoming reactive vs proactive).

In many cases I see associates having to throw their biz plan out the window because their journey gets pulled in a sharp left or right in a big way and it's off to the moon - can't really plan for that you just have to know it's going to happen by design or by an external source sooner or later (once you're sitting on a winner that is).

I Read a quote here recently about 'work hard for 5 years, rest for 55, vs the other way around' - and I believe in that. I also see many ppl try to replicate their first success because they have a false belief that they can just replicate success at any time now that they've done it once. Wrong: If you hit big, hold onto that shit tight, respect it, you've been blessed.

Those that sit pretty will attest, you rarely stay made the first time no matter how many things like this you read beforehand, so with that said - good luck to you all, find your lane and fall in love with your process, you'll see that after a while the money is literally a cool side effect and you won't care about it as much as the powerful daily routine you have and how to sustain it.

I know this is all over the place however I hope it gets your gears turning re top level thinking about your time, how you're using it, how you grade yourself on your attempts to date, and how you may change some of that moving forward if you're in a hamster wheel of fails and have data/asset overload .

/brainDumpComplete.
NC.
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  • Profile picture of the author aspire7
    This is a really good post. A lot of people have the desire to make money online, but still don't seem to understand this.


    Its starts as a mind set and an attitude.
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    • Profile picture of the author SteveSki
      Originally Posted by aspire7 View Post

      This is a really good post. A lot of people have the desire to make money online, but still don't seem to understand this.


      Its starts as a mind set and an attitude.
      Yes it is an excellent post.

      Mindset is more than just a mental attitude, it's having a DMO (Daily Method of Operation) that you consistently preform. You set your mind to do it and the doing trumps attitude.

      Cheers,
      Steve
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      • Profile picture of the author discrat
        Personally, I like the simplification that the OP talks about.

        Sure there are the details you need to attend to.That is a given.

        But the basic blueprint of being successful is really simple.

        Not easy but simple.

        I think this is where many Newbies lose track. They get overly absorbed in these little things and lose sight of the big picture.

        Which when you come down to it, is a simple formula the OP points out


        - Robert Andrew
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        • Profile picture of the author TJShipnite
          Thanks for this post ncmedia.

          I vote that this get stickyed. Can you even do that

          If you don't mind, I think I will save this and share with a few rookie team members of mine that are just starting out. Giving you the credit of course
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  • Profile picture of the author Borja Obeso
    Te beautiful thing is that you can SPLIT test Daily Routines very quickly... and it's fun.

    Such a marketing geeky answer right?
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    Originally Posted by ncmedia View Post

    . . . you just need a buy now button on something that is wanted, delivers on promises, and is fairly priced, we all tend to overcomplicate this process wayyy too much . . .

    This seems to me a gross oversimplification of the online business process. You've said nothing about being in a profitable niche, building a list of followers, coming up with a valued product, figuring out how to drive traffic to an offer, knowing how to sell your products with great copy and nurture your customers so you move them on the buying curve. If online business were really as easy as you say, very few people would struggle. But in fact, very few ever make any money online.

    Online business is more than buy now buttons and business promises. In my opinion, it's usually the many little details that one executes in his business that make all the difference. And learning those details, implementing them, testing and tracking results are what matter and can turn a business from nothing to a valuable asset for the owner. Often those many details are overwhelming to entrepreneurs but they can't be ignored. There are ways to streamline, to automate, to out source, to leverage one's time to get everything accomplished daily.

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    • Profile picture of the author SteveSki
      Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

      In fact, very few ever make any money online. Online business is more than buy now buttons and business promises.
      Steve
      Most people don't have many "Buy Buttons" working 24/7 ringing up cash sales for them. That's why very few people ever make money online.

      The daily routine of most people involves trading time for dollars and then they stand in front of cash registers buying how to do it WSOs and magic solutions instead of setting up their own Buy Now Buttons / Cash Registers.

      Like you say, there are many more details to figure out but if someone gets bogged down in the details and waits until they feel they have it all figured out before taking action, they will never gain experience.

      Real learning comes from the experience of doing it... not just from reading about how to do it. If how to's were enough, we would all be skinny, rich and happy.

      Cheers,
      Steve Ski
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    • Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

      Online business is more than buy now buttons and business promises. In my opinion, it's usually the many little details that one executes in his business that make all the difference. And learning those details, implementing them, testing and tracking results are what matter and can turn a business from nothing to a valuable asset for the owner. Often those many details are overwhelming to entrepreneurs but they can't be ignored.
      Nah. All those are just tactics, the fine print, the nitty gritty... The kind of stuff that coaches (who have never sold shit on their own) talk about in order to make their role feel significant towards the coachee. But the truth is that none of that is what makes/breaks an actual living, breathing business.

      Sales and cashflow are the only things that matter. Traffic -> sale -> repetition -> speed . Game over.
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      • Profile picture of the author tenstiks
        Sales and cashflow are the only things that matter. Traffic -> sale -> repetition -> speed . [/QUOTE]Game over.[/QUOTE]

        It's never over.
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        • Originally Posted by tenstiks View Post

          Sales and cashflow are the only things that matter. Traffic -> sale -> repetition -> speed .
          It's never over.[/QUOTE]

          I totally agree with that. Just when you've completed one thing another thing arises. Just when you've mastered one thing then comes a new thing you have to master. Then there's dealing with customer issues...

          That's why you really need the right mindset in from the very beginning and love doing this or you will burn out fast.

          So the right mindset and FOCUS will enable you to continuously repeat those things that matter.
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    • Profile picture of the author wittman
      Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

      This seems to me a gross oversimplification of the online business process. You've said nothing about being in a profitable niche, building a list of followers, coming up with a valued product, figuring out how to drive traffic to an offer, knowing how to sell your products with great copy and nurture your customers so you move them on the buying curve. If online business were really as easy as you say, very few people would struggle. But in fact, very few ever make any money online.

      Online business is more than buy now buttons and business promises. In my opinion, it's usually the many little details that one executes in his business that make all the difference. And learning those details, implementing them, testing and tracking results are what matter and can turn a business from nothing to a valuable asset for the owner. Often those many details are overwhelming to entrepreneurs but they can't be ignored. There are ways to streamline, to automate, to out source, to leverage one's time to get everything accomplished daily.

      Steve

      I think you missed the point :-)

      This wasn't meant to be a "how to" manual on IM, and, for a quick brain-dump it offers some good value!

      Here's some points I'd like to stress.

      I was very lucky myself. My first at bat was a homerun, back in the early and middle 2000's...but then 2008 came and I was NOT prepared at all, like many. By late 2010, early 2011 I had checked out. Many problems all came together creating a perfect storm and I paid dearly, financially and personally. I was highly leveraged, high risk investments plummeting, still over-staffed, a huge JV deal falling apart after $100k in, property and asset values shrinking, sales way off, on and on.

      BUT, now, after a four year hiatus, focusing on my family and me getting clean and sober...I'm back!

      That said, it's an understatement to say that everything has changed while I was away...BUT most of the key principles have not changed and never will. Yet, most are over-looked, nowadays, like I've never seen before! All this quick fix, fast easy money, SELL, SELL, SELL, bla, bla, bla...bullcrap is out of control!

      This is why I know, without question, I'll build it back up; just stick to the key principles that matter, and everything else will fall into place.

      Trust me, I know the deal though. What other choices are there, if you choose to forge ahead without the key principles? ...Just screaming from the rooftops louder than the next guy, waving your hands in the air...HEY, OVER HERE, LOOK AT MY STUFF, I CAN MAKE YOU RICH, I'M DIFFERENT THAN EVERYONE ELSE!!

      Michael Dlouhy mentions, "The competition for your prospect's mind is fierce. The average mind gets about 9 hours of TV, radio, internet, newspapers, magazines, books, & videos a day. That's 40,000 words a day, 280,000 words a week and 14 million+ words a year. Over-communication is rampant. To get through, you must focus to a pinpoint."

      Now with mobile technology on us 24/7, couple in big data...and we're ALL in a HUGE battle, again. This time it's for our most valuable resource of all, our TIME, and most don't have a clue. 60 secs turns into 15 mins, then quickly a couple hours, and before we know it the day’s over and gone.

      Only a VERY few, truly value TIME as much as they should. I swear it's the most taken for granted asset on the planet STILL, when it really should mean more than gold, especially with all the planned distractions and interruptions we deal with today!

      ****************

      First, here's some fantastic groundbreaking insight by Daniel Goleman, a psychologist, science journalist and New York Times Best Selling author.

      He clearly explains both sides of the distractions that, ultimately, put our focus and performance at peril. One is our internal emotions/thoughts and the other is the external war for our attention.

      "Our attention is under siege more than it has ever been in human history, we have more distractions than ever before, largely because our technology is so clever at seducing us away from the things we are supposed (or intended) to be looking at," said Daniel Goleman.

      He also mentions that in 1977, Nobel Prize winner Herbert Simon wrote, "Information consumes attention, hence a wealth of information creates a poverty of attention."

      Daniel Goleman on "Focus: The Secret to High Performance and Fulfillment"
      It's over an hour, so watch it during a late night, it's worth it!

      Daniel Goleman, "Focus: The Hidden Driver of Excellence"
      (A little shorter version at Talks at Google.)

      All the technology tools we use are designed to interrupt us, seduce us, to draw our attention from this to that, then ultimately SELL (or collect more data for later). Now, when you add big data into the equation the process is nearly perfected.

      As you may know, there's as much information created every 2 days now, than was created in total, prior to 2003! Most people know this, but very few understand to what extent that this rigs the game. Literally, all our desires, dislikes, weaknesses, triggers and buying habits, etc. are all profiled, categorized and worn right on our sleeve every moment we're plugged in.

      In other words, they know EXACTLY how to get our attention; what we love, what we hate, what we're curious about...on and on.

      Half the battle is simply to be AWARE of this! Then you must diligently practice…always being present, on task and working with intention, especially during the times set for your business and really even your personal life if you'd like to improve your relationships there too.

      ***************

      It's funny the OP mentions...The 4 Hour Workweek, though don't get the book just find a summary because most of it is either obvious or unrealistic. Tim Ferriss talks about the 80/20 rule and cutting as much of the 80% of your daily activity that doesn't directly get you to your goal or make more money, better relationships, etc. The only other benefit were some decent stuff on utilizing contract work or outsourcing, but more up to date info can be easily found online.

      ***************

      Spend WAY LESS time improving your weaknesses, (incl. fixing under-performing campaigns, offers, products, etc.) and WAY MORE time getting better at what you're really good at, your strengths.

      E.g. When a niche or campaign really takes off, it should get shoved to the most important priority! You should focus a TON of your energy and time into expanding on it, improving it, and maximizing it's potential. Instead, and I have NO idea why, the tendency is to quickly move on to something else, nowhere near the same potential at the moment. I've read where some people really are afraid of REAL success and maybe that plays a part.

      Focus on building your strengths, outsource your weaknesses!

      ***************

      So, what's missing? What is IT? (Probably the most common question I got over the years.)

      Well, there was a lot of small factors why I was able to go from a broke, massively in debt, struggling entrepreneur that couldn't even shut off a computer properly in 1998...to building and running a small multi-million dollar software and lead gen company.

      It wasn't because I was smarter than most. Sure, I had a burning desire...and when things get real tough, that why or whys will be called on to keep you going. Yes, I had to believe I could do it with some confidence. I did have a good work ethic and a strong curiosity about people and anything new. I also had solid conversational writing skills and that did help too.

      But, it really did come down to ONE thing…The ONE thing that is sorely missing today and often the ONE reason that the average IMer's success is so short-lived or never really takes off in the first place.

      It's also the very same reason that after almost 4 years, I was able to step right back in, earning a full-time income in just a couple of months. Granted, nowhere near where I was, but it's taken a TON of time and energy to get reacclimated with a huge amount of change. Wow.

      Before I get to IT, which for some of you is so obvious you've already figured it out, the other thing I did differently was how I thought about THE PROBLEM. Everyone else just looked for a problem within a niche that they felt they could address, then tracked and tested THE SOLUTION, until the numbers worked. I gauged another aspect of THE PROBLEM... How well the marketplace was doing at providing THE SOLUTION. Not how much competition there was, but how well they were doing at solving the problem and satisfying the client.

      Today, almost all niches have more competition than we can fathom. It's to the point now that…”build a better mousetrap now...and so the hell what”? Your client can get 10 different Xs right now, cheaper, faster, with more addons, more bonuses...sorry.

      So, how in the hell do you compete with that??? Jeez louise, just search Amazon next time you're considering a purchase, of just about anything. Unreal.

      Well, it goes back to old-school; really old. Now, one positive from the MASS of information and time stealers is that people are getting fed up of all the time they're wasting and they just want to, like the old days really, find a few companies or people that they can TRUST and even like. Hell they'll even pay a little more when they know, like and trust someone.

      Hey, here's a friggen novel idea. At LEAST test asking for a damn phone number. You don't have to make it a required field, but ask for it. Then, if you get it, give them a quick intro call. DON'T SELL ANYTHING. If they answer, welcome them and tell them thanks! If you really want to go out on a limb, ask what problems and issues that they’re having. Then you can follow up by email, insuring they're getting the right message series at least. AND FOR GOD'S SAKE...CALL YOUR BUYERS, THANK THEM, ASK HOW YOU MIGHT HELP THEM GOING FORWARD, etc.

      So, there it is, in ONE word...RELATIONSHIPS. Take time and learn the skills that will help you build and nuture relationships. If you aren't sure, research and study. Now, it will help A LOT, if it's real. It's SO much easier and more fun, when you really do care about others and have a burning desire to help them.

      It's just not enough, anymore, to find a problem in a niche and email them potential solutions over and over...and over... Well, I won't delve into the plethora of issues (not all, but mostly self-inflicted) plaguing affiliate marketers today. That's for another time.

      I'll leave you with an adaptation of my mission statement:

      I have an unrelenting passion to "Inspire, Teach and Empower" others to live life by design, on purpose and with intention. I've had the pleasure of helping over 10,000 inspiring entrepreneurs, since 1999, become more efficient and effective at developing the most crucial aspect of their business (for sustainable long-term success)... better, stronger relationships, while using less of their most valuable resource, TIME.

      I hope this helps!

      Peace,
      Mark
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    • Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

      This seems to me a gross oversimplification of the online business process. You've said nothing about being in a profitable niche, building a list of followers, coming up with a valued product, figuring out how to drive traffic to an offer, knowing how to sell your products with great copy and nurture your customers so you move them on the buying curve. If online business were really as easy as you say, very few people would struggle. But in fact, very few ever make any money online.

      Steve
      You just did what most news media outlets do which is to take a sound bite and make that seem as the base of the whole thing, let me attempt to explain:

      Many internet marketers know and do those technical things you mention yet still see no success because they do not have the ideals spoken of in this post ingrained in their mindset.

      It's almost like knowing exactly how to drive a car yet because your mind just isn't focused and is instead distracted -or even worse in a drunken state- you'll tend to have many accidents along with traffic ticket fines you'll end up having to pay.

      If one cannot see the whole picture then none of those little pieces of details (or parts of the puzzle) will ever connect and lead to something fruitful.

      In manifesting a thing it needs a physical vehicle and the right energy to run it effectively and in our case that "right energy" is the ingrained mental outlook NCmedia passionately posted about here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan Vodini
    not only making money online starts with the mindset but almost everything in life...basically the only difference between multimillionaire and middle class is the opposite mindset they have each other...money will just follow up.
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  • Nick, the reason as of why you started this thread the way you did is because you ARE an entrepeneur, and not a wannabe like 99% of the people in this forum.

    You speak about something VERY important that most people who are NOT successful entrepreneurs dont understand: speed to market. Business is all about momentum and opportunity, and speed of implementation, test and failure is very important. You dont want to spend 3 months preparing something to find out it was never meant to work.

    Also, since most people here and not successful business people, they dont understand the importance of another concept you mentioned: you must slap an Add To Cart into as many places are you can. Sales and fast cashflow are the bloodstream of any business. You dont have that , you dont have a business. Period.

    And finally... I agree once again with you: people think that they can easily replicate success after their first big hit. WRONG! If you already got something thats working well, cut all the other side projects and focus 100% on your milk cow: it is already there and it is already working... Milk it for all it is worth you fool!

    But then again, most people wont understand why all this is so important...
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  • Profile picture of the author ContentPro22
    I completely agree. The moment you make it about money, that's when you fail. To add to what the OP is saying, if you make money your ONLY goal, then you'll eventually lose motivation and lose it all most likely. Strive for freedom, happiness, and success OUTSIDE of internet marketing (like making a difference, helping others, etc.) and the money will just keep flowing in!
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  • Profile picture of the author abilify182
    Good post. But to all marketers out there, can you share your daily routine so we can see how successful marketers operate on a daily basis?

    My problem is not in the money making method, but more on how I should carry my day. I feel like I'm wasting my time on useless things.
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    • Profile picture of the author ncmedia
      Cheers on the responses, highlighting important things in each:

      Originally Posted by aspire7 View Post

      ...Its starts as a mind set and an attitude.
      ^ This.

      Originally Posted by Borja Obeso View Post

      Te beautiful thing is that you can SPLIT test Daily Routines very quickly.
      ^Very powerful point. Just like choosing toothpaste until you find the fit for you, foods, partners, we split test daily and not even know it. Now consciously think: When is the last time I split tested my business approach? OR maybe I should stop split testing the same crap and start brand new never explored tests yet, or revert back to what once worked and tweak tweak tweak it.

      Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

      This seems to me a gross oversimplification of the online business process....
      Someone below responded to you beautifully, all I can add in addition to saying he is right, even the newest of noobs VERY quickly figure out biz when something starts to work in a big way... things start happening like "Oh crap I have no backend, or I only have one upsell, or I need a mailing list damn I'm leaving money on the table.." < You become reactive when something works, and you learn new things no matter how much experience you have before hand.

      With success comes a LOT of new learning and a lot of responsibility - you'll never truly figure out all of what is needed until you reflect in the future and can analyze (luckily for me, my big winner showed itself at about 30 products in out of the 50, so I had a good formula, but I still learn new things daily).

      Originally Posted by SteveSki View Post

      Most people don't have many "Buy Buttons" working 24/7 ringing up cash sales for them. That's why very few people ever make money online.

      The daily routine of most people involves trading time for dollars and then they stand in front of cash registers buying how to do it WSOs and magic solutions instead of setting up their own Buy Now Buttons / Cash Registers.

      Like you say, there are many more details to figure out but if someone gets bogged down in the details and waits until they feel they have it all figured out before taking action, they will never gain experience.

      Real learning comes from the experience of doing it... not just from reading about how to do it. If how to's were enough, we would all be skinny, rich and happy.

      Cheers,
      Steve Ski
      I might be wrong, but I assume you are a fellow Polak with that name, if so - dziendobry! And well said .

      Originally Posted by discrat View Post

      ...Not easy but simple.

      I think this is where many Newbies lose track. They get overly absorbed in these little things and lose sight of the big picture.

      Which when you come down to it, is a simple formula the OP points out

      - Robert Andrew
      Well put in short, no it's not easy, but you'll find the winning formulas in most biz is actually quite simple. Here's your doughnut, thank you for your dollar, see you tomorrow! < But online - Of course we go through all the necessities of front ends, packaging/branding, competing, marketing, influencing, hitting emotions with our pitch, blah blah blah but in the end, I have product, that is popular because it works and because it is fairly priced and beats the competition and is actually priced higher - the rest is extra/gravy/bonus money (I used to have one product, at $29, it is now $39, with 3 upsells, a monthly rebill on one of them, and 90+ other products with 3 other sites all tying into each other/upsell flows triggered everywhere.

      Very 'complex' but still 'simple' if you were to translate it to a well thought out store on how they influence you to walk through it by design down to the last minute cashier stand with gums, magazines, upsells, loyalty card options, etc.. you got me typing!

      Originally Posted by TJShipnite View Post

      Thanks for this post ncmedia.

      I vote that this get stickyed. Can you even do that

      If you don't mind, I think I will save this and share with a few rookie team members of mine that are just starting out. Giving you the credit of course
      Cheers, I've never seen a sticky here, but sure grab it and share it, I don't need the credit but thank you as long as you pull from it.

      Originally Posted by Jonathan Vodini View Post

      not only making money online starts with the mindset but almost everything in life...basically the only difference between multimillionaire and middle class is the opposite mindset they have each other...money will just follow up.
      Yep, your mindset should still be "I want to help enough ppl to get what they want that I may get what I want" - Value, customer satisfaction, volume.

      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      Nick, the reason as of why you started this thread the way you did is because you ARE an entrepeneur, and not a wannabe like 99% of the people in this forum.

      You speak about something VERY important that most people who are NOT successful entrepreneurs dont understand: speed to market. Business is all about momentum and opportunity, and speed of implementation, test and failure is very important. You dont want to spend 3 months preparing something to find out it was never meant to work.

      Also, since most people here and not successful business people, they dont understand the importance of another concept you mentioned: you must slap an Add To Cart into as many places are you can. Sales and fast cashflow are the bloodstream of any business. You dont have that , you dont have a business. Period.

      And finally... I agree once again with you: people think that they can easily replicate success after their first big hit. WRONG! If you already got something thats working well, cut all the other side projects and focus 100% on your milk cow: it is already there and it is already working... Milk it for all it is worth you fool!

      But then again, most people wont understand why all this is so important...
      Speed to market is insanely important imo. In my peak, I was doing a product every 2-4 weeks. I TOTALLY BURNED MYSELF OUT and can't imagine doing that again, after 20 products or so though, I had a beautiful portfolio of tests that I could now play with and pull a winner(s) from, and I did while I launched more and more however they became more and more laser focused to WIN each time (perfect practice makes perfect and all that)...

      Some of them were absolutely stupid ideas, some were winners that totally surprised me, all taught me a lot but my original thinking got changed from "If I launch a product every 2-4 weeks, in a few years I'll have xx products all making money!!" to "If I launch 50 products, and pull a few winners out of them to expand on, it'll be like one huge split test!".

      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      Nah. All those are just tactics, the fine print, the nitty gritty... The kind of stuff that coaches (who have never sold shit on their own) talk about in order to make their role feel significant towards the coachee. But the truth is that none of that is what makes/breaks an actual living, breathing business.

      Sales and cashflow are the only things that matter. Traffic -> sale -> repetition -> speed . Game over.
      Beautifully said.

      Originally Posted by ContentPro22 View Post

      I completely agree. The moment you make it about money, that's when you fail. To add to what the OP is saying, if you make money your ONLY goal, then you'll eventually lose motivation and lose it all most likely. Strive for freedom, happiness, and success OUTSIDE of internet marketing (like making a difference, helping others, etc.) and the money will just keep flowing in!
      It's always going to be about money at the end of the day, it's just cart in front of the horse mentality that I encourage to avoid, the money is the end goal, and even then there is more once you actually have some/a lot - money can ruin you faster than being broke can, if that makes sense.

      I consider myself extremely successful but not just because the amount of zero's I haz - in short I think ANYONE THAT IS 100% IN CHARGE OF THEIR TIME can also say they are extremely successful. I do music, and in one of my tracks I say "The monetary system of life - it breeds hate - the honorary victims of the hype get raped, there's only one true success in this life mates, and that's to spend your time eternally free - in your own way" < If you do what you want on a daily and don't have to check price tags when you shop for food - you've made it 90% of the way.

      Your time is the most important asset you have, once it's all yours, you become a dangerous breed (having time + some money puts you in a position to be a power player faster and faster while getting bigger and bigger). This is why it's so hard for the part timers, only sparatic patchy attempts and constant lost focus. Those of you who are in charge of their time but not making it yet, you don't realize how good you actually have it - some day you won't have all this time because life happens - so use this time wisely daily.

      Originally Posted by abilify182 View Post

      Good post. But to all marketers out there, can you share your daily routine so we can see how successful marketers operate on a daily basis?

      My problem is not in the money making method, but more on how I should carry my day. I feel like I'm wasting my time on useless things.
      Then change, asap, chances are you have enough knowledge to launch a website right? You know how to setup aweber/emails, you understand marketing so SOME degree, you just lack the balls or money to try 101 things properly until something works that you then scale.

      My daily routine has morphed over the years, now is very passive and I can work or I can go skateboard/travel/spend time with friends. I'm also in a unique position where I know I can start x more projects, and have at least a bit of confidence that they will work, however I don't - because now I KNOW what happens when something huge WORKS, it takes over your life and consumes you and you have a whole new (GOOD) set of problem solving to do in life. There is such a thing as wanting the money too much, and not having a life to balance. I would consider my route rather unhealthy, 50 websites, hundreds of all nighters, thousands of assets, lost a great relationship to this, sacrificed a bit of my health for this, have bags under my eyes from this, but I damn well respect every single bit of this because the rest of my life is mine now, and I don't know any other way - the hard way is my way - most successful ppl will tell you it came with tons of sacrifice and still does .

      /BrainDump#2Complete.
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  • Profile picture of the author answergal
    This is cool nc.

    I have a bluetick hound that runs all around trying to catch chipmunks. He goes from this hole to that tree, then jumps in the shrubs.

    He never catches anything, not sure he'd know what to do if he did. But he sure loves the process.

    My neighbor has a cat.

    It stares at one spot, what seems forever. When the time is right, it pounces. And rarely comes up empty handed.

    Things to think about.

    Thanks for taking the time to walk us down the path you've followed.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by answergal View Post

      This is cool nc.

      I have a bluetick hound that runs all around trying to catch chipmunks. He goes from this hole to that tree, then jumps in the shrubs.

      He never catches anything, not sure he'd know what to do if he did. But he sure loves the process.

      My neighbor has a cat.

      It stares at one spot, what seems forever. When the time is right, it pounces. And rarely comes up empty handed.

      Things to think about.

      Thanks for taking the time to walk us down the path you've followed.
      Nice metaphorical example ! I think it holds true. Focus on one thing. Be the best at it and do not give up til your the best at it


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      • Profile picture of the author ncmedia
        Originally Posted by rudyman1243 View Post

        ...I am a product guy not a computer geek so that is my big problem, I have paid so many Gurus that at the end they don't know Crap, they are all full of BS, the computer needs to be made simple so people like my self can put things together easy to work and show progress not having to pay 100's to 1,000.00 and get nothing, it's all BS. Another big problem with e-sites is you never know where to run ads this is really a waste of good money, everyone has their hands out.

        Sorry to vent but I am sick of computer people telling me man I can get you traffic so pay me x number of dollars and by the way it might take 6 months but you will get traffic at the end of 6 months and 1,000.00 or so gone I get 0, all BS. So, I am happy with a few orders a month do I wish I could get 100's per month well Yes i would love to have 100's of orders a month but that is going to take a long time, so I will keep getting a few a month until i can find a good place to run some ads to get REAL Traffic from Real Humans and not BS traffic.
        All the best to all,
        RudyMan
        You showed humility and a plea for someone to at least listen .

        So let's take you as a little case study here then - I'm willing to offer a bit of my time to prove to you that your biz was either a bad idea to begin with and no guru can help you (they'll take your money though, and maybe you'll see marginal difference too), no amount of traffic will thrust you into success (as it would have happened by now from the sounds of it organically, true winning products/services can't really hide even if they wanted to ), or that you should overhaul it/start again/change it drastically, or just get laser targeted traffic for money yourself on a few split tests and you'll know right away if your site is a hit or a miss or has potential if you reposition.

        If you're willing: Answer each in point form straight from the hip.

        What do you sell?

        How much does it cost (range)?

        What's your conversion rate? (every 100 targeted uniques, how many buy? If you have the data or even a guess = How has it fluctuated over its lifetime and what have you changed to keep switching to better results?).

        How long you been at it with this ONE idea/site?

        Is it a one time buy now button or is there a sales flow with upsells/recurrs/backend things to buy/customer email sequence to cross sell?

        Do you have or are you trying to recruit affiliates to this?

        What's stopping you from taking an actual computer class to learn the basics vs guru/coaching/seo/trafficGuy on stuff you don't understand yet?

        Most here do it backwards, as the true wave of 'bringing your biz online' was for those that already had a 'winner' they were selling offline - most here are trying to create that winner while simultaneously trying to run a site/market/compete/launch and sustain profit all at once, vs test ideas properly on your own until you master conversions on a winner or repeat until you do - do not build a biz around a dud in short, as you may find yourself spending tons of time/money on something that was never going to be and some simple testing could have proven it (and will next time I hope).

        Hence outsourcing prematurely is what may be happening for you. No fault of your own, you learned a lot through this process to properly assassinate the next attempt or at least do a little better, faster, and grow or repeat yet again.

        Why do you think you're sitting on a winner and why haven't you walked away from it yet so you can start some new jam at the wall to see what other ideas stick?

        Do you feel emotionally ball and chained to this until it works or bleeds you dry or are you able to walk away completely?

        What are your competitors doing that you're not (sans getting traffic)?

        What kinda promises have guru's/seo experts/etc made you and what have you learned from them technically (remember, if you're running an online biz, you're always learning, always closing, always trying to understand your customers more ((once you have them)))? You're at a big disadvantage if you have to hire people constantly even for basics or idea execution/mockups/splits. This may be your biggest hurdle, the computer and the process is only as hard as you make it for yourself trying to learn it all at once vs learning bit by bit each day/session until the basics are in. Also when you hire people, you still absorb 'some' of their process inadvertently, I'm sure you've picked up enough to be dangerous, at least aware to call 'them' out on it now.

        Feel free to answer openly and I'll try to dissect your approach a bit, maybe others will benefit if they are in similar shoes kicking a dead horse or grossly missing their targets with their market positioning. You don't have to out your domain, let's leave that until last as it sounds like it should be polished based on you hiring people over time.

        NC.

        EDIT: AND if this person doesn't come back - you should all fill this form out for yourselves if only for a chuckle, but maybe also to identify some problems/things to address in your 'powerful daily routine'.
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  • Profile picture of the author KevinDahlberg
    Inspiring post. You've definitely posted about some things that I've been learning/thinking about quite a bit lately.

    A few takeaways -
    Have a laser focus. Focus on one thing, preferably the thing that is making you money. It's better to have depth than breadth.

    Study less, act more. Odds are pretty good that most of us know exactly what we have to know to build and grow a business. The problem is that it's actually going to take commitment and work. I've found there are 2 types of people online - those that are in it for the entertainment, and those that are in it to make money. If you are buying product after product and not acting on it, you are just here for the show.

    "Work hard for 5 years and rest for 55." I have to keep reminding myself that it's going to take time to grow my brand and my business. Especially because I'm looking to create something that I can stand behind and be proud of. I have a friend who is an up and coming hip-hop artist. He's been working at it for 7 years, and he's just now starting to see some success.

    Create, create, create. You can improve your odds of having a winner the more products you have.

    Thanks again for the post.
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    • Originally Posted by KevinDahlberg View Post

      ...Odds are pretty good that most of us know exactly what we have to know to build and grow a business. The problem is that it's actually going to take commitment and work...
      I agree with this completely. Take losing weight, for example. Many people who want to lose weight already know what they have to do: Exercise, eat healthy, take in less calories than you burn, etc...but most do not want to do that because it takes discipline and commitment. So instead, they search for a magic pill or easy path to weight loss and it always backfires. IM is no different.

      That's why I believe its important to figure out WHY you are doing the things you do, or what you want to do with the money that's made, because I also agree that money is something that is not very much thought about when it comes to what's going to be done with it after its made.
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      • Profile picture of the author Chett
        Originally Posted by Michael J Anthony View Post

        I agree with this completely. Take losing weight, for example. Many people who want to lose weight already know what they have to do: Exercise, eat healthy, take in less calories than you burn, etc...but most do not want to do that because it takes discipline and commitment. So instead, they search for a magic pill or easy path to weight loss and it always backfires. IM is no different.
        I agree with you that most people have enough to get started already and have probably had a number of good website ideas. I think the thing which stops most people is fear of criticism.

        This is why the idea of putting up a single page review site and spamming it with links is so popular, as it means you don't have to really put yourself out there. Whereas if you define an audience and really think how you will deliver value to them then you are risking rejection, it's part of why so many people come in here asking if they have to be an expert in there chosen niche because they fear being rejected by their chosen audience.

        It's this fear of criticism that has lead to many people looking for coaches and leads them to buy products because they can momentarily envision what success will be like without the risk. This is always short lived of course though.

        You used the word discipline, but I think I prefer to say people's results are created by their actions which are a result their habit's. People are always taking some form of action, but it's probably the wrong action if they are not seeing some type of result.
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  • Profile picture of the author RafaelThaGreat
    This was a great thread, What I took away most from NC is that it's not about finding the "secret", it's really just gaining experience over time.

    Personally when I first started online I was chasing my tail and every prospect at the same time. Now I have much less noise in my head, I have one thing that makes money and I'm nurturing it. Life is so much easier this way. I have new ideas every single day, but I resist the impulse to pursue them. I don't need another domain, blog, software, course, or book draining me of my time, money, energy. I have one thing I focus on everyday and that's it.

    Finally, when he said all you really need is a buy button, I understand what he means. Every new book I publish on Kindle is another BUY button out there on the internet. It's really that simple.
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  • Profile picture of the author rudyman1243
    Money does not mean that much to me at my age made it and loss it no big deal it is second to my thinking. My biggest thing is Traffic to a site the money will come so no big deal, the traffic is the big deal for law of average will take care of money. I have a 3 sites one is an adult site for novelty's one is a name brand fragrance site these have done business so I know that they work with people buying my products. What I need is Real walking talking breathing Humans visiting my sites and everything will work out. I am a product guy not a computer geek so that is my big problem, I have paid so many Gurus that at the end they don't know Crap, they are all full of BS, the computer needs to be made simple so people like my self can put things together easy to work and show progress not having to pay 100's to 1,000.00 and get nothing, it's all BS. Another big problem with e-sites is you never know where to run ads this is really a waste of good money, everyone has their hands out.

    Sorry to vent but I am sick of computer people telling me man I can get you traffic so pay me x number of dollars and by the way it might take 6 months but you will get traffic at the end of 6 months and 1,000.00 or so gone I get 0, all BS. So, I am happy with a few orders a month do I wish I could get 100's per month well Yes i would love to have 100's of orders a month but that is going to take a long time, so I will keep getting a few a month until i can find a good place to run some ads to get REAL Traffic from Real Humans and not BS traffic.
    All the best to all,
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    • Profile picture of the author WarWizard
      Originally Posted by rudyman1243 View Post

      Money does not mean that much to me at my age made it and loss it no big deal it is second to my thinking. My biggest thing is Traffic to a site the money will come so no big deal, the traffic is the big deal for law of average will take care of money. I have a 3 sites one is an adult site for novelty's one is a name brand fragrance site these have done business so I know that they work with people buying my products. What I need is Real walking talking breathing Humans visiting my sites and everything will work out. I am a product guy not a computer geek so that is my big problem, I have paid so many Gurus that at the end they don't know Crap, they are all full of BS, the computer needs to be made simple so people like my self can put things together easy to work and show progress not having to pay 100's to 1,000.00 and get nothing, it's all BS. Another big problem with e-sites is you never know where to run ads this is really a waste of good money, everyone has their hands out.

      Sorry to vent but I am sick of computer people telling me man I can get you traffic so pay me x number of dollars and by the way it might take 6 months but you will get traffic at the end of 6 months and 1,000.00 or so gone I get 0, all BS. So, I am happy with a few orders a month do I wish I could get 100's per month well Yes i would love to have 100's of orders a month but that is going to take a long time, so I will keep getting a few a month until i can find a good place to run some ads to get REAL Traffic from Real Humans and not BS traffic.
      All the best to all,
      RudyMan
      Hi RudyMan,

      There are too many variables to consider with traffic and the source that would best work for your offers.

      From what I've heard, Traffic Black Book by Chad Hamzeh came highly recommended.

      But as for me, with limited budget, I'm putting it into one or two sources and testing, testing, testing.

      Overall, I think NCMedia has given some fantastic advice to take and run with.

      A book that overall changed my mindset towards business was 'The Millionaire Fastlane' by MJ DeMarco. The other thing that changed my mindset and stopped me from chasing new systems and ideas and courses was this blog post, and I hope it helps everyone who reads this thread - You: The Best Guru EVER | FrankKern.com

      All the best.
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  • Profile picture of the author kidino
    Originally Posted by ncmedia View Post

    This is to encourage you to purge some of your thinking (you just need a buy now button on something that is wanted, delivers on promises, and is fairly priced, we all tend to overcomplicate this process wayyy too much), purge some of your assets, get serious about your success, manifest what will happen once you get there (aka have any of you ACTUALLY given thought to what you would do with your first after tax 100K in the bank? I'm serious - not how you would spend it, but how you would flip it, grow it, preserve it, invest it, whatever).

    Purge some of your daily bullshit that you know is just diluting your knowledge base and time. Launch stuff, often, test and break and put it back together to understand it, don't look for systems or cloning others methods from here - all the success stories are out there in living color re sites to model after you don't need secrets (there aren't any) you just need experience.
    Great share. I guess my biggest takeaway is the PURGING... Yep! Sure needs to check about the things that is polluting in my thinking my daily activities.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jennifer Hutson
    I think a lot of people needed to heat this. Great post, OP!
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  • Profile picture of the author PrettyJenny
    Thanks for the great post! It's true, 'fail fast, fail often' is the only way to learn. I think this is also the mentality of The Lean Startup.
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  • Profile picture of the author PBSolutions4U
    This sounds like the story or journey of many a internet marketer. I think the basic point to take is persistence through it all, finally paid off. Process becomes the experience.
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    • Profile picture of the author realwinner2
      My take on your beautiful post is this:


      #1 FOCUS: eliminate chasing after a multitude of different so called "shiny objects".
      #2 DO WHAT YOU KNOW OR LOVE: Whatever you create should not be a duplication of someone else's product. Use their success to INSPIRE you to create something that is your own.
      #3 Find your WINNER, and expand on THAT in multiple ways.


      I think that for many people the challenge is to pinpoint what they know, love or excel at, and to have the courage to create from there.


      And then the next hurdle is to allow yourself the time required to find your sweet spot or your WINNER. To have it proven in the market.


      Take the time to find what you love to do or are naturally gifted at, then find a way to empower others through that. It may not always be Internet Marketing or WSOs, but it will be fulfilling and it will be something that you will be inspired to keep pursuing. This is where your excellence will become obvious, and you will attract success, fulfillment and most likely financial reward.


      DO WHAT YOU LOVE! - Share it With Others in Ways That Empowers Their Lives! - Find Your WINNER and Stick With It, in as many ways as you can.
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  • Profile picture of the author Unstoppable1
    I agree with the focus. I have a friend who has ONE Clickbank product and he makes over $30K per month on that. And he keeps marketing and marketing it and has amazing affiliates. He also improves it and adds to it.

    He is in perfect health and is a well-known coach (which is totally separate from his product).

    So, even that part about sacrificing health is not necessary. Working hard and focusing and stopping the incessant studying is key.

    I'm also a coach and have just started this internet marketing adventure. But success is all the same recipe: discipline, focus and perseverance. And yes, the focus has to be on the value you are providing and how your product or service will serve others. If it's all about the money, it is empty and you won't be happy.

    That's all!
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    • Profile picture of the author Time2Shine
      Originally Posted by Unstoppable1 View Post

      I agree with the focus. I have a friend who has ONE Clickbank product and he makes over $30K per month on that. And he keeps marketing and marketing it and has amazing affiliates. He also improves it and adds to it.

      He is in perfect health and is a well-known coach (which is totally separate from his product).

      So, even that part about sacrificing health is not necessary. Working hard and focusing and stopping the incessant studying is key.

      I'm also a coach and have just started this internet marketing adventure. But success is all the same recipe: discipline, focus and perseverance. And yes, the focus has to be on the value you are providing and how your product or service will serve others. If it's all about the money, it is empty and you won't be happy.

      That's all!
      Great first post! and I agree with you its all about refining and how you apply the recipe you mentioned; discipline, focus, and perseverance.

      I also agree that you need to be providing value as well as making money if you want to succeed doing this long term. If you don't provide value, you won't have that sense of accomplishment and self worth. If you don't earn any money you won't eat lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author ncmedia
    Happy this was received well, and damn this place is still quite active! 4,000 views on this thread in a few days. Hopefully out of the thousands that viewed it, at least a handful will actually implement the read into their daily routine and next biz moves. Kudos to Wittman for dropping some nuggets and vids too, good follow up to my points.

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  • Profile picture of the author tderoma
    Thanks for the inspiring article. At my stage of the game, this is one of the best things about WF, is hearing from people that have actually reached that goal of making money online, and their willingness to share what it takes, and that they've "all been there."
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  • Profile picture of the author mattw1000
    Hey NCMedia,

    Great thread with some fantastic insight. I'm just beginning my journey in online selling and it's great to get advise like this when starting out. I do have a couple of questions that arise from it though please and this is for everyone with advise not just NCmedia please.

    I plan to sell on Amazon, private label via FBA (thinking supplements and possible outer items that link to good health) and your advise has got me thinking.....

    You say to test fast and ditch the failures even quicker but i wondered how long do you give a product before saying enough is enough?

    and does this advise stand true for private label goods? with costs existing to set the private labels up for each product or is your advise aimed more towards online marketing sites etc?

    i'm just thinking that say i go through the process of private labelling 3 or 4 different products from different suppliers that all relates to my niche, that's a fair whack of work to get all of the private labelling in order, create the amazon pages and marketing etc, which is fine as i'm more than happy to put the hours in but i just wanted to check are you saying that you have to go through the process of all of these stages for every product you test? and then how long do you give your marketing to work before thinking this product is a dud?

    and as a start up, i'm thinking its going to be a little tricky to know if its my product or my marketing thats failing, any tips on this please?

    big thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author ncmedia
      Originally Posted by mattw1000 View Post

      Hey NCMedia,

      Great thread with some fantastic insight. I'm just beginning my journey in online selling and it's great to get advise like this when starting out. I do have a couple of questions that arise from it though please and this is for everyone with advise not just NCmedia please.

      I plan to sell on Amazon, private label via FBA (thinking supplements and possible outer items that link to good health) and your advise has got me thinking.....

      You say to test fast and ditch the failures even quicker but i wondered how long do you give a product before saying enough is enough?

      and does this advise stand true for private label goods? with costs existing to set the private labels up for each product or is your advise aimed more towards online marketing sites etc?

      i'm just thinking that say i go through the process of private labelling 3 or 4 different products from different suppliers that all relates to my niche, that's a fair whack of work to get all of the private labelling in order, create the amazon pages and marketing etc, which is fine as i'm more than happy to put the hours in but i just wanted to check are you saying that you have to go through the process of all of these stages for every product you test? and then how long do you give your marketing to work before thinking this product is a dud?

      and as a start up, i'm thinking its going to be a little tricky to know if its my product or my marketing thats failing, any tips on this please?

      big thanks!
      Cheers,

      Great questions and I'm sure you'll get different responses from those with different levels of experience. Yes this advice stands true for anything in any marketplace/vertical including on/offline or hybrids.

      I suppose from my end, to wrap all this up into a simple set of answers: It all depends on your budget and time thresholds. The more you test, the more extensive the tests, and the longer you test, all equate to better and better data to analyze and maneuver with.

      You're right in the sense that you probably won't know if it's your marketing or your product that is working/failing, but if it's failing period then you need to change up - fast.

      Thinking back to my failures and knowing they were duds, yes it did come with experience and having many duds and kinda showing a pattern for me (example being after 10,000-50K laser targeted uniques, on a random week/month to a good split test or two/three, would show me good data from price point splits to design splits, to seeing if I can sustain profit/grow or if I missed my mark). If I couldn't sustain profit or get better than a x% conversion, I knew it was a dud and my affiliates wouldn't touch it or would bounce once they saw they couldn't convert either.

      You might have different thresholds but the end game remains not to build a biz around untested offers. I'd put more money/time into testing great front end/branding before going all out with the rest of the biz or a formal launch on any. Sometimes even a good 'pre-order' or interest optin form split test will give you good enough data to then take it to actual branding/labeling in print vs just screen mockups etc. so it all depends on how meticulous you are with your approach/planning before testing (aka your own site/test a lot with pre-vis before touching amazon/other dist.).

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  • Profile picture of the author icoachu
    Why not go one step further....

    Turn your ROUTINE into a habit.

    Successful people have made SUCCESS a habit.

    Habits are made up of ROUTINES.

    Sow a thought, reap an action; sow an action, reap a habit; sow a habit, reap a character; sow a character, reap a destiny.

    You craft your destiny with your actions, habits and character. You make your destiny, it doesn't make you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Darn... just when i thought i was the supreme marketing authority on this site. Now we got this obvious internet guy sharing Heavenly wisdom.

    Just kidding lol.

    Great post. I used to be at a point where i didn't want to work at my business, because i wanted $20,000/month in 3 days. I know that's crap now. Make "working at home" your friend, and it will love you.
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