Why do people say it takes a long time to make any money doing AM?

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Theoretically if you can find a good product (which are available in abundance on Clickbank, amazon, etc.), create a decent site, and pay for ads on either facebook or google, all you would need to do is to find the right balance by testing and re-testing until you get a set up which generates money instead of loses it.

I am not that experienced in IM, but that seems as if it is something that can be achieved in weeks if you work hard at it. So how come people say they have not made ANY money and they have been doing it for months/years?
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  • Profile picture of the author marketermatt
    It takes a hell of a lot more than that to really make a profitable business. What would happen if you put all that work in and then one thing changed?

    What if the product went down?
    What if your ads get denied?

    Only true way to really get over these is by building yourself a list, start building a list and you will never need to work again!

    Good Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author davemilli
    Most people try one thing and they want immediate money and when that doesn`t happen they move in a different direction never following through with nothing but, jumping around like rabbit from one product to another trying to find the secret to instant cash without no work involved.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicolasmd2112
    A lot of people get impatient and end up moving from one method to another, then eventually making their first couple dollars after "years" of trying to make it online.

    The best thing you can do is stick with what you are doing, and what you should be doing is building a list while sending traffic through a funnel, so you can make some money in the process.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shankar Rao
    Not willing to work, looking for shiny new things, mindset - these are the some of the factors that delay success in AM
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      It doesn't matter what other people say or do. If you have affiliate marketing figured out - follow your plan and succeed for yourself.

      Theoretically (and realistically) - all you have to do in any business is find something people want...and sell it to them. In theory, it's simple - in practice, a bit more complex but it can be done.
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      • Profile picture of the author discrat
        K.I.S.S.

        As Kay said keep it simple stupid

        Find a need and then fulfill that need.

        Its really that easy

        But as I always say don't confuse simple with easy.

        It won't be easy. Put in the work and monitor your results and act accordingly


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  • Profile picture of the author jamescanz
    Originally Posted by foreverstray View Post

    Theoretically if you can find a good product (which are available in abundance on Clickbank, amazon, etc.), create a decent site, and pay for ads on either facebook or google, all you would need to do is to find the right balance by testing and re-testing until you get a set up which generates money instead of loses it.
    In a nutshell, I agree.

    Although there are TONS of other variables...

    Many campaigns can, and do occur like that.

    Just keep in mind, it never stays like that forever.

    Originally Posted by foreverstray View Post

    I am not that experienced in IM, but that seems as if it is something that can be achieved in weeks if you work hard at it.
    Absolutely...

    However I'm not sure what type of results you are looking for in that time period.

    I've had many campaigns that blew up from the start...

    And on the other hand I've also had many campaigns that didn't.

    Originally Posted by foreverstray View Post

    So how come people say they have not made ANY money and they have been doing it for months/years?
    They lose focus, give up / quit, or the biggest one when it comes to AM...

    Their fear of losing money.

    All in all, it doesn't take long at all to make any money doing AM...

    It's the gargantuan amounts at a constant and continuous pace...

    That's what will take a little more 'elbow grease'
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    • Profile picture of the author Steve B
      In theory, selling online is simple. Most often you get the 30,000 foot overview in a nice sweet sounding short package.

      In reality, there is much to learn and to be executed smartly. "The devil is in the details", as they say.

      Often, sellers get the details wrong, or they do them incompletely, or they miss something important.

      Many sellers don't have the persistence or patience to grow an income stream. They give a half-hearted effort in setting things up then they expect to be making six figures on minimal promotion. Getting "traction" in a new business often takes some time.

      Anyone can be successful in online business, but most people aren't because they don't have the "never say die" attitude and they give up way too soon.

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  • Profile picture of the author Nytshade
    Originally Posted by foreverstray View Post

    I am not that experienced in IM, but that seems as if...
    WAIT!

    Let's stop right there, where you say "but that seems as if" that's the most important part. Yes it seems as if it's that easy when you read it on paper.

    If it was that easy then everybody would be doing it!!!

    If you think it's that easy then I challenge you to go buy those ads and promote an affiliate program and come back to this thread after a few weeks and give us a report of your results.

    I can't wait hehe
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  • Profile picture of the author Christopher Fox
    It sounds simple to you because you seem to be forgetting that this is all a Zero Sum Game. And you don't live in a bubble. And, advertising costs money. And, a whole bunch else.

    No, in theory nor in execution, is any of this stuff easy.

    Most people who say it is are selling a MMO product or coaching, or cheesy crap like preying upon people's desperation and insecurity society instills in them by telling them their ebook will make their wee-wee grow 3 inches longer, teach them how to get laid every Saturday night, etc.

    You need a dose of reality about AM. Not to be a jerk, just suggesting you investigate OUTSIDE of the WF on some of this. Places where you will find Aff Marketers making bank and also telling you better come to the party with $X,XXX to lose while you are doing your 'testing and re-testing', until you get your campaign profitable. Hopefully get it profitable, that is, but more than one successful Aff Mrktr has lost tens of thousands of dollars doing their 'testing and re-testing', only to have to abandon that campaign and eat that loss.

    Oh yea. If it is a hot product, that is who you will be competing against - millionaires. Further, YOU may never even get the chance to market that product, as the Ad Network will make a deal with the top AMers and only let them send traffic to the offer, etc.

    Yea, it's all a piece 'o cake, lol.
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    • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
      Originally Posted by Christopher Fox View Post

      It sounds simple to you because you seem to be forgetting that this is all a Zero Sum Game. And you don't live in a bubble. And, advertising costs money. And, a whole bunch else.

      No, in theory nor in execution, is any of this stuff easy.

      Most people who say it is are selling a MMO product or coaching, or cheesy crap like preying upon people's desperation and insecurity society instills in them by telling them their ebook will make their wee-wee grow 3 inches longer, teach them how to get laid every Saturday night, etc.

      You need a dose of reality about AM. Not to be a jerk, just suggesting you investigate OUTSIDE of the WF on some of this. Places where you will find Aff Marketers making bank and also telling you better come to the party with ,XXX to lose while you are doing your 'testing and re-testing', until you get your campaign profitable. Hopefully get it profitable, that is, but more than one successful Aff Mrktr has lost tens of thousands of dollars doing their 'testing and re-testing', only to have to abandon that campaign and eat that loss.

      Oh yea. If it is a hot product, that is who you will be competing against - millionaires. Further, YOU may never even get the chance to market that product, as the Ad Network will make a deal with the top AMers and only let them send traffic to the offer, etc.

      Yea, it's all a piece 'o cake, lol.
      It's easy once you figure it all out, but the "figuring it all out" part isn't always that easy.

      That's where most people quit because they either can never seem to figure it out or they just quit right before they are about to figure it out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Path Theory
    Affiliate Marketing comes down to a few key points -

    A) Killer Landing Pages
    B) Targeted Traffic
    C) Cheap Clicks

    The landing pages are one of the most important part. You need to spend a lot of time focusing on these, because they will make or break your business. For instance, I have over 50 presale pages just for the diet market. Every single one of them look more professional than the E!Online website (just a for instance since they're similar in style). I don't have over 50 because I've tested so much (Did that in the past, I know what works) - I have them to match my ads. If I'm running a Kim K. Ad, than I have a killer Kim K lander. The list goes on and on.

    If you're driven, you can easily success in affiliate marketing within a few days. All you need to do is replicate what's already working. It's really not that hard of a concept. Find the ads (socialadninja or similar) in your niche, study them, recreate and tweak them. Click through to the persons landing page, and do the same. After that, focus on the targeting and getting cheap enough clicks.

    I'm not trying to down play the amount of work that goes into affiliate marketing, because there is a lot. Most people don't have what it takes, or they just have no idea what they're doing. The biggest tip I can give you is "Don't reinvent the wheel" - Take inspiration from industry leaders and stick with a proven method. I honestly think it's one of the easier ways to make money since everything you need to succeed is out there. You can hire someone to build the landing pages to mirror the pro's. All you need to do is work on traffic generation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Originally Posted by foreverstray View Post

    Theoretically if you can find a good product (which are available in abundance on Clickbank, amazon, etc.), create a decent site, and pay for ads on either facebook or google, all you would need to do is to find the right balance by testing and re-testing until you get a set up which generates money instead of loses it.
    Have you tested this theory for yourself yet?
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  • Profile picture of the author Eagle07
    It takes a long time because a lot of time is required to accomplish funnels in order to reach those ready buyers for the offers
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  • Profile picture of the author ContentPro22
    You CAN create a profitable landing page in a matter of HOURS (6-8). Here are the EXACT steps I follow: purchase a domain/hosting, get OptimizePress (or lead pages), set up your landing page, add the affiliate's link to your "Thank You" page, set up 8-10 auto-responder sequences with affiliate offers (which are usually already pre-written in the "affiliate tools" section of the site you're promoting), buy traffic, A/B test, and there's a good probability that you'll earn a profit.

    I can get a pretty good indication of whether or not a landing page is going to be profitable after the first 100 clicks or so. If the numbers simply aren't in my favor (I'm spending more than I'm making), I'll scratch the site and start fresh. The key is to throw out as many "hooks" as you can.

    Back when I first starting in email marketing, I would create 10 different landing pages within the time span of 3 days or so. After having everything completely automated (the auto-responder messages ready, Thank You page setup, etc.), I'll spend $50 to $100 on each site in PPC traffic. VERY IMPORTANT: use the "Daily Accelerated" option so you can get to your end results FASTER. Now I'll know within 24-48 hours which sites are profitable and which ones aren't...and I'll scrap the ones that are worthless and continue pouring money into the ones that are profitable.

    You might feel intimidated by spending a lot of money on PPC traffic, but don't feel this way: by sending the lead DIRECTLY to the affiliate's site after they sign up, you'll immediately recoup your PPC loses, PLUS you'll have tons of people on your list who you'll eventually make money from most likely.

    It's all about dipping your fingers in as many different niches as possible and see which one offers you the most profit. I earn $12,500 or so (around $6,500 on a BAD month) using these EXACT steps. I'm literally leaving nothing unturned. No secrets. No magical formula. Just test, test, test, scrap bad sites, keep profitable ones, and continue the process until you're at a monthly income level you're satisfied with.

    P.S. I receive ZERO organic traffic from ALL of my landing pages. They're all stand alone landing pages that receives 100% PPC traffic (with some video marketing here and there). Don't be intimidated by PPC...if you use the Thank You Page method, you'll immediately recoup your losses (at least there's a very good chance you will, nothing is guaranteed).

    Hope that helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author younglite
      Originally Posted by ContentPro22 View Post

      I earn $12,500 or so (around $6,500 on a BAD month) using these EXACT steps.
      Does this include just your conversions from your landing pages or your email offers, as well? Just curious.
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  • Profile picture of the author Time2Shine
    Originally Posted by foreverstray View Post

    Theoretically if you can find a good product (which are available in abundance on Clickbank, amazon, etc.), create a decent site, and pay for ads on either facebook or google, all you would need to do is to find the right balance by testing and re-testing until you get a set up which generates money instead of loses it.

    I am not that experienced in IM, but that seems as if it is something that can be achieved in weeks if you work hard at it. So how come people say they have not made ANY money and they have been doing it for months/years?
    You need to find something that separates you from the pack. You mention Clickbank and yes, there are good CB sites out there. The problem is when hundreds of people are promoting the very same program as you using the same advertising sources. Compound that with when a program has been around for awhile and many people have heard of it. Well, then you need to find a new program or find a new way to advertise.

    You have the basic formula down, but the tricky part is applying that to the real world.
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  • Profile picture of the author aprilaraceli
    Of course we have to obey the English proverb that It is easy to say but hard to do. There are many people who will say you the IM section is a good place to earn a handsome amount of money or anyone. But here I would like to say it is really a good way of earning for expert only. If you have some skill in this field, you will be able to earn a good amount of money from this section. but if you have experience, you will not get a small penny. So you have to learn more & more. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author LillyR
    When you tell people that you make money working online, I bet the first thing they think is "oh that sounds easy, I bet I could do something like that."...Then they go ahead and try themselves and quickly realize it is much MUCH harder than they originally thought.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert999
    Originally Posted by foreverstray View Post

    Theoretically if you can find a good product (which are available in abundance on Clickbank, amazon, etc.), create a decent site, and pay for ads on either facebook or google, all you would need to do is to find the right balance by testing and re-testing until you get a set up which generates money instead of loses it.

    I am not that experienced in IM, but that seems as if it is something that can be achieved in weeks if you work hard at it. So how come people say they have not made ANY money and they have been doing it for months/years?
    Yes you can start making money within few weeks, even within few days if some experienced mentor is coaching you. Otherwise, it takes time to become familiar with all steps and issues of internet marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author NeedBucksNow
    Ads cost money and most people aren't willing to invest much in themselves and what they have to offer? I recently boosted a post on Facebook for $20 and got 46 likes of the post and 3 likes to my Facebook page as well but 0 signups. It seems like it was going pretty good but I may need to grow my blog some more before I really start to invest my profits back into paid advertising. You have a good theory and truly that it probably the best way to make money online, but you are more than likely going to need to have at least a few hundred dollars to invest to build up your trust with potential buyers and to make it really profitable as well
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  • Profile picture of the author visimedia
    some people don't make money online for years, and some other make money in their first month and even week.

    I think that's the reality, and the major difference between those 2 sides comes down to what they do. Whether they do it effectively and do it the right way or not.

    For example, when people know about make money online for 1 year and all they know is just about clicking ads and get paying survey which is wasting your time I think, they won't have so much success in those 1 year.

    2nd example when people can just make movie and upload them to youtube, wihle they know nothing about internet marketing, affiliate marketing, etc, all they know in 1 year is just about youtube partnership program, then they will just make great content and movie and post them to youtube, the promotion will go naturally across the socmd, etc...

    Guess what?

    after 1 year, they make good passive income thru that model..


    NO internt marketing, driving traffic stuff, seo, socmed marketing etc.


    3rd example, if you know the basic of business principles, bring that online, you know internet marketing, affiliate marketing, how to drive traffic n monetizing them... you'll be a profit magnet!
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  • Profile picture of the author heavysm
    Originally Posted by foreverstray View Post

    Theoretically if you can find a good product (which are available in abundance on Clickbank, amazon, etc.), create a decent site, and pay for ads on either facebook or google, all you would need to do is to find the right balance by testing and re-testing until you get a set up which generates money instead of loses it.

    I am not that experienced in IM, but that seems as if it is something that can be achieved in weeks if you work hard at it. So how come people say they have not made ANY money and they have been doing it for months/years?
    Lol theoretically he says.

    Well business isn't about theory. Not succeeding, anyway.

    It's all about doing it yourself, learning from others so you don't make their mistakes, and/or just driving over the potholes to figure out things your way (some people need to feel the impact of their mistakes to fully understand their lesson).

    Theoretically all you do in business is give people what they desire; whether it's simply a want they want fulfilled or a problem/solution type situation.

    That sounds incredibly simple. But how easy it is?

    The astronomical number of businesses failing should give you the answer.

    Affiliate marketing is no different IF we're talking about this as an actual business.
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  • Profile picture of the author zahidkomedi
    how is your progress so far ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Devilfish168
    To be frank is not overnight or even months to see results. ( You can actually happen to get one or two sales from click bank within months but not constant )

    It can take one , 2 or even 3 to 4 years to fully see the results is it fail or pass.

    you can't really determine is it your site is sucks , can't get customers etc within one or two years.
    reasons , too many sites out there also doing the same niche.

    traffic per day is different some days your traffic is good some days are bad days.

    what I feel everyone is aiming are Constant results whereby your traffic are " stable " everyday surely can hit 1k above traffic be it less or more surely will be 1k traffic there.

    sales wise ( at least one day you can get one , two or even 3 depend what niche you in )

    this is what I aiming. Just humble, I also learning from fellow WR here. Sometimes I do stupid thing never learn
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