Best place to hire ghostwriters in 2015?

Personally I`d prefer to use https://www.hirewriters.com/ for a while and it helped me to achieve so project. In fact Hirewriters.com provides high quality, cheap, fast and 'on-topic' articles

$2 per 100 words is actually a little high in my opinion. I hire PREMIUM American writers from Elance at a rate of $1 per 100 words.

Personally I've been really happy with EpicWrite.com, yes they quote 2 weeks and books take more like 3-4 weeks to finish, but you can order 10 books at a time and hire America writers for reasonable rates, just over $1.10 for 100 words.

When I first started out I would hire writers from oDesk.com but that was a terrible experience over time. They would quote me ridiculous rates for 3,500 word books ($80, $100, etc.) and when I did find a cheaper writer, I could only give her 1 book at a time, and she would take a month per book to finsh. It was impossible to scale.

Eventually my main writer started delivering 2,000 word books for $35 and would complain she couldn't write any further because she wasn't familiar with the topics.

Once I found EpicWrite.com my headaches went a way because I had an actual business to deal with and not managing a single employee's emotions. I can scale with EpicWrite.com, but I can't scale with 5 writers on oDesk.com.

You might also want to try your LinkedIn network.

There are lots of highly educated, highly experienced Native English speakers who would write for very affordable rates.

Why?

They are in between jobs and many are subject matter experts who also happen to write.

They may not stay writers long so you need to grab them while they are available.

The downside to this is? You have to cycle through many writers.

High quality. Very low cost. Very short-term availability.

The problem with cycling through writers is it shows in the content. You can't run a 5 series of 10k NF if all 5 books have a different writer, even after editing. Readers will notice!

As for Epic Write, their customer service is dire at best. I remember emailing them 1.5 months in asking where my work was...never got a reply. I had hoped they had sorted their act out now but apparently not.

Why don't you just contact individual people, from those services.

Ask for their email, and contact them outside of the site.

There are some decent writers on Fiverr if you take the time to try a bunch. Once you track one down, find a way to contact them outside of the website so you can negotiate a better deal. Good luck to you.

Your rate is shockingly low.

Real ghostwriters have their own websites, and they charge $10,000 per book or more.

If you just need a freelancer calling themselves a ghostwriter, you can find them just about anywhere.

Any place that charges $1-$2 per 100 words is a content mill. You can get good content from them, but not consistently. It's basically luck of the draw. The exception, not the rule.

Lots of funny replies in this thread. This one is best, I think:

No disrespect to the poster, but this is hilarious. Time is money, man.

A better deal? Wow.

I use fellow warrior drem.

DREMdesigns Article Writing & Content Strategy Services

She has a for hire thread in the WSO forum.

I used to hire a lot of writers from Odesk and Elance, especially Odesk to supplement my sites. I retained the most dedicated ones for my team at Contentation now (sorry if this sounds like an ad).

If you have enough time, test drive a lot of article writers before settling down with one quality one. Another way is to work with an agency with full satisfaction guarantee to reduce risks.

Try the Warriors for Hire section in this forum. You'll find lots of writers. Test a few if you wish but expect to pay for good quality material.

Pay peanuts, get monkeys.

Now you (and everybody else) say it with me: "People who are not very bright think $5 for an article is a fair price."

Going to a company to locate the writers for you is great. Sites like Textbroker can be reliable.

However, if you want to be sure that you're working with somebody that may be working for you again and again and you have seen their previous work, probably going straight to a writer personally may be your best bet. Just a quick Google search is all that's needed.

Might I suggest hiring a writer in your state or country, mainly because they can work in the same time zone as you. If you want to get really hands on in the process, this is your best bet.

I would avoid all of the bidding sites and similar. I've hired people from iWriter and thecontentauthority, but to be honest, I've hired some of the best writers from textbroker.com. The rates are affordable, and the quality has always been MUCH better than the bidding sites.

If they aren't bright, why do you want them writing for you? People who work for less than, say, $30 an article are either desperate, just starting out, or else they aren't native. Sure, you can get good work from them, but not consistently. Head over to Constent Content and look at the prices. Believe it or not, there are webmasters out there who pay those prices day in, day out. They're making an investment in online real estate.

A note about Textbroker and the like:

The quality is very inconsistent. Textbroker is the best of the lot, but I would avoid unless in a tight pinch. I've used them as a client once (through Raven Tools) and I wrote for them long ago, so I know what's what with them. The Raven Tools order was a disaster. For one thing, they charged me for a L5 article but whoever actually wrote the content was obviously L3. Maybe L4 having a bad day.

And much of the article was lifted off of Wikipedia and changed a bit.

You are never going to get consistent quality from writers making $7 for a 500 word article. (or $10, or $15, or $25) Never. And you will waste time and money trying.

To head it off at the pass, no, I'm not a neutral party here. I do think you're better off hiring someone like me or Jennifer Hudson or laurencewins right off the bat. You save money in the long run, and you get much better quality content.

Well for now I went with Epic Write, just to see how long their turnaround times are.

I can and do write myself, I just prefer to outsource to make maximum use of the 12 hours I work per day, I edit everything anyway.

I will probably contact a few of you via PM.

As for price differences, I have not really found any sales difference between outsourcing for $100 per 10k and selling on Kindle than outsourcing for $500 for 10k and selling on Kindle....both of them (same niche, same promo, same cover and blurb qualities) sold the same number of units...so it makes sense to me to pick the cheaper one?

I am sure the higher fee means you have to edit less but if you are dialing down to a sub sub sub sub sub niche you need to be editing yourself anyway, less you give away that niche idea to your writer

You can offering a good rate. I think you should take a look on Elance and freelancer. These are best place for hiring a writer.

I tried to stay out of this conversation as long as possible, but I just can't resist anymore.

If Discrat or one of the decent folks here asked me to write them a quick blog for their website for $15, I'd probably say yes just to help them out. But I would also let them know up front that I'm going to sit at my computer and grind out 400-500 words in about 10 minutes, glance over it real fast, and then hit the send button. That's the only way it would be mutually beneficial for everyone involved.

On the other hand, if someone asked for me to write one paragraph for their homepage that's going to double their click-through rates, then I am going to carefully choose every single word on the page. I'm going to write a paragraph, build on each thought, delete about half of it, rephrase a good bit and then basically nit-pick until the content is perfect- and this could take me hours. Before I even write a single word though, I'm going to thoroughly research the niche to ensure I have the best content anywhere, I'm going to learn about my target audience and I'll base everything I do on the actual reader. So even though I charged the first guy $15 as a favor, this customer is going to be in the $100-$150 range.....and he's going to get every penny's worth in his return on investment.

Now, when you hire someone on one of the cheap sites, they do what I did for $15....they look at a reference article, put it in their own words and crank it out as quickly as possible. Most of them are not as strong naturally as Jennifer, myself and others here though so it shows that it's a rushed article that really needed a 2nd and 3rd edit, plus the actual content will normally be weak. In journalism, we call that "fluff pieces", because it's just a big, warm fluffy bunch of nothing on a page.

Oh, and Google hates fluff...just saying. People want to see authority in content and learn from it; plain and simple.

Another factor is that particular writer's influence on the search engines; authorship is still alive and well these days. Since the budget writers never have anything published in their own names, they can't help from a natural optimization standpoint either. My content naturally ranks well because Google likes me and I've taken the steps to make my content visible; the cheap writers know nothing about that.

So can you get a solid writer for five or ten bucks an article? To some degree, yes...as long as you realize that an article is a lot more than words on a page. You can get cheap content from anywhere these days BUT your readers do not appreciate cheap content...which means that Google doesn't either.

Here's the thing though; we don't need a writing contest to determine a winner here- simply post links to your pages that rank #1 overall in Google for any keyword. Heck, we can even go with the top 10 so the cheap writers and the weaker domains have half a fighting chance. Let's take the top five pages, add up the monthly search traffic and declare a winner. It's that easy since organic visibility equals money.

That's something that a lot of folks here don't realize though- the goal is not to continue to pay for traffic so you have a chance at converting. Once you stop advertising, then your business is dead. I get new customer inquiries daily from content I prepared months or even years ago, and the profit on that is a pure 100% since it's already paid for itself many times over. That's what a QUALITY writer does for your website...so do not mistake decent writing for true quality. One has nothing to do with the other.

Ever thought about going to your community college and passing a few flyers out? The reason I say this is because, college students NEED THE EXTRA CASH and most know how to write very well. Why because that's all we do is write papers trust me I know, I am a student.

Elance is one of the best places I've found for quality content writers. They place bids on your work. It can run a bit pricey, but you do have competitive writers- and Elance has a very strict feedback policy that allows you to really check into their previous quality work.

Yes, those reports are a good bargain. At a rate of $1 per 100 words, you're getting a good deal. Still, they're far from great, and I wouldn't call the writers who wrote them "premium." They're okay.

As for telling apart which one was more expensive, you'd be surprised to find out that it doesn't work that way. It all depends on the writer's marketing skills. I wrote for peanuts, and I also wrote for big bucks, delivering the same quality. So it could very well be the case that the more expensive writer wrote the least well-written article.

You can check out:

- Article directories
- Other freelance sites
- Warrior for Hires on this forum
- Do a simple Google search, and research ghostwriters

Hi guys, I am just wondering why isn't there any mention of Fiverr? I have found a few writers there that I am ok with but now that I see no one has mentioned this site I am getting a bit worried that maybe my "standards" are too low..

It seems Jennifer, in post #55, provided you with a much detailed feedback than I did. And I agree with everything she said. If I were you, I'd leave harsh feelings aside, consider it a valuable feedback and look for better writers if your budget allows for it.

But appreciating great content is like appreciating expensive wine - unless you're experienced and know what to look for, you won't be able to tell the difference. Frankly, I haven't written in a long time, and even when I did, I wasn't as technical as Jennifer, so even I - someone who usually charges 8c-10c per word - was surprised to find out new things.

Still, for $1 per 100 words, I think it's a good deal. I say this because the majority of writers at this price point churn out things most people won't be able to read, let alone get something out of it. But it's not premium or good quality. Just good for the money you pay.

I have found some good writers for cheap here on WarriorForum, but it is hit or miss. You have to get through a few bad writers to find that good one.

So where can I get ghostwriters who will write $10k books to my spec/plot/guidelines for under $300?

Unsurprisingly, this thread is a better read than any of the low paid content quoted & discussed here...

Especially any of the posts by Jennifer Hutson.
She Rocks. Alot.

(im quietly hoping this thead continues on for another 3 or 4 pages)

Man, I am a decent starving writer. I would take a job for $300.00 if that meant it kept a roof over my head and food in my system. I am there. I'd give my all, pray that in the future. I might get even better gigs.
Sometimes you just have to do what you have to do to make it. I mean, I get what everyone is saying and heck. Right off the bat, I want to be charging $1,000 for 10,000 words. You'd get the best sex on paper you ever bought but hey. In time, they say. In time..

That's like 6 boxes of top ramen and siracha sauce. I might even be able to splurge. Even though I am a US native writer, YOU GOTTA DO WHAT YOU CAN until you hit the big deals. Then you are moving up to noodles in the restaurant!

Why should I have to post proof and justify my opinion to you?

All I want to know is in my OP - where can I find x for x?

If you have no input on that question and just want to argue with it and be a general troll, can you do me a big favor and STAY OUT OF MY THREAD?

Thank you.

I looked at HireWriter and you can choose levels of skill. Also you view the article and reject if not the quality you require. Probably this is the case with other sources. That being so, I don't see the problem of using such places if your budget does not stretch to higher priced resources. Just a thought.

Just to add a little more. Some time ago I hired a lady writer advertising on Fiverr. She wrote a number of top quality articles for me for the ceremonial $5. After a while she stopped using Fiverr and I kept in touch. She now charges $10 and the work is truly excellent and well researched. No I am not going to give you her details because she gets very busy and I don't want my articles delayed ha ha!

I suggest using iwriter.com. Hire the elite writers only. The advantage is that you can get your content within few hours and you can simply reject the content if you don't like it.

I've found a way to get PREMIUM writers for penny's on the dollar.

My SECRET?

I hire 8th graders to write my articles.

You're all welcome.

Numerous people have already commented on the issue of writer pay generally. But specifically regarding fiction writers--especially erotic fiction--being willing to pay to receive quality writing is even more important. Why? Well, basically you're asking people to pay for something that a lot of (fanfic) writers already put out there for free! Some of which is published book-quality material. To compete in that marketplace, you really do need quality. If you're going to publish on Kindle, for instance, people really will read the free sample before paying for the full book.

For genre fiction, your best bet is to hire a ghostwriter who specializes in that kind of work. A good one won't be cheap, but there are writers out there who want to write for a living but don't want to deal with the marketing end of things.

Hi, I am interested to write for you but i am new and do not have any blog to give you to see.You can test me if you want me to write for you.

I've acquired 3 solid copy guys at hirewriters dotcom. Their are quality writers on that site, but you'll have to test a whole bunch to find the one or two gems.

Freelancers is the cheapest place to hire ghostwriters. But it is overcrowded with non-native english writers which in most cases are churning out low quality content. But with an eye to spot a good writer, it is possible at Freelancer.

I have to get off the floor form laughing so hard at some of the comments in this thread. We seem to have lots of writers of various standards offering numerous ways to make money from their writing and where to look for work.
This forum is an ideal place to get work, or so I have found. However, I have other sources as well. You can't put all your eggs in one basket. In an ideal world you need regular long- term customers and ad hoc ones as well. The more regulars you have, the better off you are.

That's my 1 cent worth.

EXACTLY

The people saying that it is too cheap don't care if our product/site/book works out profitable for us. They just care about the money they get. They don't understand and so it is pretty pointless debating it with them hah!