Thinking about getting back into the marketing game

Not at all man! If you can generate 1 - 2 leads then there is someone out there who can't do that who will want info about that! If you can record youtube video's you can make a product around that.

You don't have to already be making money online to be able to make money online haha, I advice you to spend a bit of time on this forum looking around and learning then put together a pdf of what you have learn't.

Put a squeeze page up to get that pdf and start collecting leads.

Email those leads and build a relationship with them, then start emailing them offers to other products

BOOM!

All you need is a 2-4k word article, to turn into a guide, and use it to build a list. You can do that for under $50.

Instead of spending your time right now looking for systems and schemes, sit down and make a list of a few things - like your skills (relating to on line), your connections, your likes and passions, etc.

When I started many years back I only had debt. Lots of debt. I could not afford to do anything. But what I did have was time. So I spent it learning a few things. For me, it revolved around the technical side of the business - installing scripts, web hosting, webmastering, setting up blogs for people...you get the idea. Then I started looking for people who had info I wanted, or perhaps a product - and I contacted them and did some good old fashioned bartering - my time and skills for their product/service, etc.

I also found a way to go to a live event and make even more contacts. Can't afford to fly or hotels? Then look for something you can drive to (try the Warrior Events section to see if there's anything close by). This business - contrary to popular belief - is ALL about making contacts with others. This more than anything else propelled my success. I know MANY of the most well-known "guru's" that you probably have heard of. It ALL started by going to a breakfast (this was 2005). So don't shake this one off.

Because of going to lunches, events, etc. I formed my first partnership. This is a good one too - find someone who has skills you lack, and lacks the skills you have. My first partner had zero skills for the technical side of the business (which I had lots of) and a lot of creative skills for writing, product creation, etc (which I had very little of). Together we launched 3 successful products back in 2006 and made some good money.

I realized early on that this was a process for many (myself included). Patience wins the day. So if cash is of the essence, then get a job. If you have one, get a second one. Then spend your free time learning what you need to learn (skip the TV for a few months).

Everything I know about the IM world, internet, web hosting, script installations, product creation, list building, and so on, I taught myself and/or traded with MANY others. You would be genuinely shocked at how many successful people are willing to help. You only need to be genuine and willing to learn.

This life is a constant series of education because things change very quickly. But one thing doesn't change - all of the "systems" people come up with for making money with...or building a list with... all have a shelf life. Which means when one system stops working you have to learn another. These systems may work for a while, but they should never be anything for your business except an ADDITIONAL revenue stream - not a primary one.

Build a list, and with it, build your voice. Get people to know, like and trust you. Give something of value and never be a bullshitter. Then you can sell them stuff. You don't even need your own products to do that.

Hope this helps...

If anyone is planning (or currently posting on backpage or craigslist) I am very open to working a deal for the traffic into my sugardaddy sites. email me patrick at establishedmen dot com

This. It's easy, it's free and successful people LOVE to share their success stories. And if you do a good job on it, a few of them will even promote it for you.

Here's what I did back in 2006...

A guru named Mike Filsaime launched his wildly successful Butterfly Marketing package. For those who don't know what it was, it was a membership script and one of the first that employed the upsell/downsell concepts. It was also a marketing concept that he went through in the BM Manual.

That launched in Jan. 06 and that same year in the fall, my then partner and I decided that there were quite a few "Butterfly" success stories out there that people should know about.

So we built a site called Butterfly Riches. We interviewed something like 10 or 12 of these people, and used built the site around that. It took us a couple of months because we both worked full time jobs and did this at night and on weekends.

When we were finished, roughly half of the people we interviewed emailed their lists for us. While it didn't make us rich, we both walked away with low 5 figure paydays (after paying affiliates).

I think a concept like this is still very viable...give it some thought.