How to discover if guys claiming to be legit I'm coaches are actually legit or not

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Hey babes

Most newbies are looking for mentors. There are quite few warrior members who claim are bad ass IM and offer coaching.

What's the best way to find out if those who offer I'm coaching for money are actually proper or not.

Xo
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  • Profile picture of the author Brent Stangel
    What's the best way to find out if those who offer I'm coaching for money are actually proper or not.
    It's a crap-shoot.

    Tip: Never pay more than a few dollars up-front without an escrow service and/or contracts. This is also a way to weed out the fakes as they won't want to be potentially held accountable.

    Other things to look at are their payment methods. Do they want you to pay by some means where you have little or no protection or recourse?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    I think certain people won't find what they are looking for - no matter the level of legitimacy a certain coach may have - until and unless their mindset changes.

    For example, 3 weeks ago you posted:

    Long story short...don't get disappointed by what you hear. If someone is actually successful making millions, they dont waste their time in forums...they either at the beach somewhere partying or makin products that make the world a better place.
    If that's what you believe, then you probably would go into any coaching relationship with doubts and mindset issues that will ultimately damage the process because by extension to what you said - any coach making any real money would be out doing what they are teaching instead of coaching and if they aren't doing it they are laying out on the beach somewhere sipping martinis.

    It doesn't matter whether or not a coach is "proper" if the student goes into it with mindset or other serious issues.

    Mark

    Originally Posted by behnampmdg3 View Post

    Hey babes

    Most newbies are looking for mentors. There are quite few warrior members who claim are bad ass IM and offer coaching.

    What's the best way to find out if those who offer I'm coaching for money are actually proper or not.

    Xo
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    References. Just like a job candidate. You want to speak to a couple people who have been through the person's program.
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    Originally Posted by behnampmdg3 View Post

    Hey babes

    Most newbies are looking for mentors. There are quite few warrior members who claim are bad ass IM and offer coaching.

    What's the best way to find out if those who offer I'm coaching for money are actually proper or not.

    Xo
    Get proof, references etc... If you now a few credible Members here shoot them a PM to verify and see if they have any opinions or experiences with this person


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  • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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    Well when you look at it logically,
    if they were any good at making money online,
    they wouldn't need to be selling coaching on forums.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by lgibbon View Post

      Well when you look at it logically,
      if they were any good at making money online,
      they wouldn't need to be selling coaching on forums.
      Some do it to diversify their streams of income.

      You can't have too many streams out there.

      But I guess people like Gary Halbert, Dan Kennedy , Jay Abraham, and John Carlton couldn't succeed as Copywriters and Marketers in the real world so they started selling their Courses and Coaching Services lol



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      • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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        Originally Posted by discrat View Post

        But I guess people like Gary Halbert, Dan Kennedy , Jay Abraham, and John Carlton couldn't succeed as Copywriters and Marketers in the real world so they starting selling their Courses and Coaching Services lol
        I don't remember seeing any of those answering every thread about coaching
        here with a matching sig file.
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    • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
      Originally Posted by lgibbon View Post

      Well when you look at it logically,
      if they were any good at making money online,
      they wouldn't need to be selling coaching on forums.
      Not true at all, I make good money within my own business.

      I have business owners that run multimillion dollar companies that use my coaching services. I don't have to, but I do - because I enjoy helping people.
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    • Profile picture of the author Raydal
      Originally Posted by lgibbon View Post

      Well when you look at it logically,
      if they were any good at making money online,
      they wouldn't need to be selling coaching on forums.
      This is the FURTHEST things from logic and borders on the
      ridiculous.


      So doctors wouldn't be teaching medical school if they could
      work at a hospital? A flying instructor wouldn't be teaching
      flying if he could work for an airline?

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      • Profile picture of the author lgibbon
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        Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

        So doctors wouldn't be teaching medical school if they could
        work at a hospital? A flying instructor wouldn't be teaching
        flying if he could work for an airline?
        But they're not advertising on forums either.
        Maybe you should read before you post.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jennifer Hutson
          Originally Posted by lgibbon View Post

          Well when you look at it logically,
          if they were any good at making money online,
          they wouldn't need to be selling coaching on forums.
          Originally Posted by lgibbon View Post

          But they're not advertising on forums either.
          Maybe you should read before you post.
          Maybe because doctors and flight instructors aren't internet marketers who work on the internet...you know...where forums are? Where different ways of advertising exist apart from the real world?

          How does advertising on one medium vs. another make the service any less valuable or legitimate?

          Are you saying if coaches were advertising their services on Craigslist or in the newspaper, that would mean they were actually successful? Ridiculous logic.
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          • Profile picture of the author Raydal
            Originally Posted by lgibbon View Post

            But they're not advertising on forums either.
            Maybe you should read before you post.
            You should have also said that they are not coaches either
            following YOUR logic. How do you know that they don't
            advertise on forums? You are a member of every forum?

            Originally Posted by bob33229 View Post

            Your analogy is incorrect.

            If you are not able to find out why, ask the people.
            It's not. The premise of his argument was that nobody will
            teach a skill they can be using to make money. If they are
            teaching, it is because they can't benefit otherwise. It is
            the same idea expressed in "Those who can't do, teach"
            and it's just as illogical. And it's an insult to those of us
            who teach.

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      • Profile picture of the author bob33229
        Your analogy is incorrect.

        If you are not able to find out why, ask the people.

        Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

        This is the FURTHEST things from logic and borders on the
        ridiculous.


        So doctors wouldn't be teaching medical school if they could
        work at a hospital? A flying instructor wouldn't be teaching
        flying if he could work for an airline?

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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    Excellent advice thus far (mostly).

    Just to add . . .

    1. Choose the right "type" of coach.
    2. Is he an authority in his arena?

    If I was starting out today, aside from taking the useful advice already given, I'd want to be sure I was hiring the best coach of a given subject. If I wanted to learn domain flipping, I'd want Coach A, app development would be Coach B, and so forth.

    How can you research a coach and find out if he's the most affordable authority?

    1. Ask around.
    2. Is he on a forum? Visit his profile, click on statistics, and read his posts.
    3. Does he have any sites? Go take a look. Do they look amateurish? Is he practicing what he preaches?
    4. Talk to him.

    You have to also consider why someone is a coach. Are they coaching because they lack the skills to put their "knowledge" into practice? Or are there other reasons?

    Here are the typical reasons for coaching:

    1. It pays well.
    2. It's enjoyable.
    3. It's a rewarding challenge.
    4. Non-coaching work is predominantly on auto-pilot (staff, VAs, etc).

    I can tell you why I began coaching. It was for the money, but not in the way you'd expect.

    Part of me just wanted a new challenge; the other part wanted to get a better understanding of my target audience. That way, I knew I'd be better able to deliver information (products, blogs, etc, etc). I knew the more I understood the audience, the better I'd do in my main areas of business (which are outside of coaching). As an example: info products. To write a WSO (or any info product) you're teaching a faceless audience how to make money. The more you understand that audience, the better you can teach them, and therefore the more money you'll make selling those WSOs, eBooks, and memberships.

    To explain . . . I began working online 21 years ago come this September. But my entry into the MMO (Make Money Online) market is a relatively recent one. I'd been working online for 2 decades but I wanted to coach in order to get more insight into the people who might be reading my blogs, buying my products, hiring either myself or my team for different services. Coaching to me, then, is very much a symbiotic relationship. I coach students on different areas of the business and, by doing so, they make me a better marketer in MMO. You learn so much, especially from absolute newcomers. Taking someone totally green really makes you see the world from their POV. It sharpens all of your skills as a teacher - since, when it comes down to it, everyone in the MMO market is a teacher; whether we're selling info-products, coaching, or even writing instructional blog posts.

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  • Profile picture of the author shmeeko69
    Originally Posted by behnampmdg3 View Post

    Hey babes

    Most newbies are looking for mentors. There are quite few warrior members who claim are bad ass IM and offer coaching.

    What's the best way to find out if those who offer I'm coaching for money are actually proper or not.

    Xo
    Do some for of research like how long they've been a member, any feedback they received to date, what products/services they have on offer, how much they charge for their time ..............

    Oh,thanks for calling me babes
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  • Profile picture of the author Trey Morgan
    Originally Posted by behnampmdg3 View Post

    Hey babes

    Most newbies are looking for mentors. There are quite few warrior members who claim are bad ass IM and offer coaching.

    What's the best way to find out if those who offer I'm coaching for money are actually proper or not.

    Xo

    Check out some of there content, products, reviews, testimonials, and even join their email list. If you resonate with their ways of teaching and you trust their character then you might want to check out their coaching services. It's really up to you to determine whether or not he/she is the right coach for "you". It's easy to find a coach, but it's not easy to find a coach that you would like to work with long-term. Some coaches are very specific in their teachings, some are very general in their teaching. Some coaches are very hands-on, other coaches try to keep their distance.


    Some coaches offer free coaching sessions, or strategy calls which is a great opportunity to "try before you buy".
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  • Profile picture of the author winnermarketing
    If you need an help .... look at yourself!!!
    Ok .... I'm kidding you!

    Before you choice a mentor look at his face..... maybe speak with him via skype!
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  • 2 best ways:

    1) Get income proof of the ''mentor'' - Are they actual gurus?
    2) Get ''testimonials'' of other people they have coached, and the results they got
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    • Profile picture of the author behnampmdg3
      Originally Posted by selfdisciplineacademy View Post

      2) Get ''testimonials'' of other people they have coached, and the results they got[/B]
      Thanks for replies fellows, some great insight!

      Testimonials are $5 at fiverrrrr.

      You can get 2 for 1.
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