Moving my dating advice site from Weebly to Sitesell/Site Build It, will it work?

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Hi all, I'm a dating coach and for the last 2 years I've run a dating and relationships advice website and blog. I've been building my list by giving away a free ebook, and I sell a second ebook there as well as do email and in person consultations. I have a small but loyal following.

Overall, though, success rate has only been mild and my marketing skills are not the best.

I host the site on Weebly, however I'm due to renew my domain and hosting next month and was thinking of moving the site to sitesell/site build it.

Site build it is an all-in-one site-building, site-hosting, and site-marketing product, whereas Weebly is just a hosting and site builder and does nothing to help you market the site. I am thinking that if I move the site to site build it, I will be able to better and more easily market the site as well as montetize it more.

So will it work to change the site over to site build it? Can I just copy and paste the pages from weebly over to there (my knowledge of HTML etc is limited!).

Also, I have 2 years worth of blog posts, will I be able to keep these if I move the site to site build it?

Finally, what about being optimised for mobile devices? Weebly automatically optimises sites so they are viewable on mobile devices, but does SBI do this?
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Move to a site that you at least own and control.
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    • Profile picture of the author UK Wealth Wr
      Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

      Move to a site that you at least own and control.
      And what would that be?
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    I operate in the dating niche.

    As John recommends, stay clear of free-hosted platforms. With the click of a finger, all of your hard work (and much of your business) can be lost. Not only that, but you have to consider the extended freedom you receive from paid hosting (CMS, plugins, etc), and sales conversions. You'd convert a lot better on a more professional website.

    To save web design costs, consider this:

    1. Virtual hosting/ Managed VPS.
    2. Wordpress.
    3. Premium theme from ThemeForest.net.

    It takes me around 24 to 48 hours to put together a high-end website and I'm by no means a professional web designer.

    Last thing: I'm more than a little familiar with your market. You'll find it a great deal easier growing your audience and capturing opt-ins by using a simple Wordpress setup.

    Tom
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    • Profile picture of the author UK Wealth Wr
      Originally Posted by Tom Addams View Post

      I operate in the dating niche.

      As John recommends, stay clear of free-hosted platforms. With the click of a finger, all of your hard work (and much of your business) can be lost. Not only that, but you have to consider the extended freedom you receive from paid hosting (CMS, plugins, etc), and sales conversions. You'd convert a lot better on a more professional website.

      To save web design costs, consider this:

      1. Virtual hosting/ Managed VPS.
      2. Wordpress.
      3. Premium theme from ThemeForest.net.

      It takes me around 24 to 48 hours to put together a high-end website and I'm by no means a professional web designer.

      Last thing: I'm more than a little familiar with your market. You'll find it a great deal easier growing your audience and capturing opt-ins by using a simple Wordpress setup.

      Tom
      I doubt Weebly would erase my site. That wouldn't happen. I have no idea how to set up a Wordpress site, as I am not a web designer and I have no skill in that area. That's why I like Weebly's idiot proof site builder.

      But the point you miss it that SBI actually helps people build a business, market a site and monetise it. If I open a Wordpress site, there's no training on how to monetise or market it, so I'd be no further forward. That's why I was thinking of SBI.
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      • Profile picture of the author kpmedia
        Originally Posted by UK Wealth Wr View Post

        I doubt Weebly would erase my site.
        Never trust any service or host with your content. If it cannot be backed up, then it should not used. Weebly is a proprietary mess built for simpleton sites.
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        • Profile picture of the author Oven Key
          If you're ever considering using SBI! the best advice I could give is to read this incredibly thorough multi-page review of them by an ex-customer:

          SBI-Review-by-ex-customer

          It's an eye-opener!

          (Plus it attracted several HUNDRED detailed comments from other SBI users, so it's a bit of a one-stop-shop for reviewing the product and its parent company, SiteSell)
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          • Profile picture of the author princessleia
            I used SBI for over seven years, and I KNOW where it's shortcomings are. They do NOT innovate, and they are not the company they used to be.

            Plus, just like Weebly, they are a proprietary software with no easy export function. Heck even to switch from SBI block-by-block to their fancy new SBI 2.0 (or whatever they call it) customers had to copy and paste EACH page into their new system. Can you imagine? And you can't outsource the work cheaply via Odesk or Elance without being afraid your whole site can get hijacked, because there is no subordinate log-in. And they promised that very function here in these forums over a year ago, and still .... NO RESPONSE. Not even a release date.

            If you go with SiteBuildIT, you deserve what you get.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Agree completely with Tom.

    Don't just flick it over though, you'll want to preserve your SE traffic.

    (hint hint 301's)
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    • Profile picture of the author UK Wealth Wr
      Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

      Agree completely with Tom.

      Don't just flick it over though, you'll want to preserve your SE traffic.

      (hint hint 301's)
      I have no idea what 301's are.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Wordpress, hosted with a reputable company like Liquidweb.

    What are 301's? https://support.google.com/webmaster...er/93633?hl=en

    I'm off to bed, its 3am here and I have to be back in the office in 5 hours.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    Good luck to you then.

    Tom
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  • Create the whole website first... and keep posting on your Weebly site while making changes.

    You can probably use RSS to help transfer blog posts.



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    • Profile picture of the author Social Media Ava
      No marketer is going to recommend that you go with the likes of Weebly, Wix, or SiteBuildIt. <-- I've heard not so great things about them.

      I'm sure we all sound like broken records on repeat, "WordPress, WordPress, WordPress."

      WordPress doesn't require that you be a designer or programmer. That's the whole point. It might seem/look/sound intimidating, but most web hosts worth their salt have a one-click install to get WordPress up and running within MINUTES.

      I'm no web developer, but like Tom said, I can have a high-end site up within 24 hours because of WordPress. I taught myself in a few days time. There are probably some people around the forum who would be willing to help you, including myself.

      In addition, WordPress is highly customizable and easy to optimize. Anytime I need additional functionality, I just Google "best plugin to" or "best plugin for", and then I just install it.

      You seem really resistant to the possibilities. Do yourself a favor and learn WordPress now. You will never look back. Best of luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    Originally Posted by UK Wealth Wr View Post

    and was thinking of moving the site to sitesell/site build it.

    Site build it is an all-in-one site-building, site-hosting, and site-marketing product,
    I would seriously consider NOT going with SBI. There has been some bad stories about members there.

    Best to own your own hosting and have complete control
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    • Profile picture of the author IndianaJones
      Originally Posted by discrat View Post

      I would seriously consider NOT going with SBI. There has been some bad stories about members there.

      Best to own your own hosting and have complete control
      Agree 100%
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  • Profile picture of the author n3o
    move to other hosting company and use wordpress
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  • Profile picture of the author Omarkenawy
    I think that Weebly is the best place on the internet when it comes to easily create a professional looking website/functioning ecommerce store without any coding knowledge.

    You can also completely customize your site with HTML/CSS code if you want.
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    • Profile picture of the author beingsolutions
      Originally Posted by Omarkenawy View Post

      I think that Weebly is the best place on the internet when it comes to easily create a professional looking website/functioning ecommerce store without any coding knowledge.

      You can also completely customize your site with HTML/CSS code if you want.

      I have 1 WP site -- and just built a beautiful site/store in 1 day on Weebly. Yes you own it. And yes you can download a copy of it to move it (and your URL). The question for me is how well can I create custom URLs to pay for Affiliate traffic... that is the question I really need to answer.

      For me, I believe the time I will save fixing plugins/coding issues -- and put my energy to creating new affiliate traffic flows will be a fair trade.

      That said, I am new and don't understand plenty... thoughts?
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  • Profile picture of the author Oven Key
    As someone who's had a site hosted with SBI since 2008 I strongly advise steering clear of them altogether.
    Yes, I know their tagline which emphasizes building a 'business' rather than a 'site', but there are so many problems with the way they do it.
    1. The business model is really just about using SEO to get free traffic, which you can learn about anywhere on the Web.
    2. As soon as you lock yourself into their sitebuilder you divorce yourself from all the functionality available through WordPress plugins that you will regret more and more with each passing day. (SBI will convince you that all you need are tools for writing content to get Google traffic.
    3. They do not have two of the most fundamental components of any real business: Customer Relationship Management software (for managing prospects and customers) and eCommerce (for actually selling your products and services)
    4. It is very hard to escape their clutches once you're in because you will have built hundreds of pages using proprietary tools that are incompatible with what the rest of the world uses.
    5. SBI are on the verge of going out of business. They have been losing customers rapidly since about 2012 and most people in the industry don't expect them to be around beyond 2016. That's a big deal when you're putting your business in their hands.

    Go your own way and build a WordPress site. There are others out there who will teach you how to build a good business around it (just Google people like Chris Farrell, Pat Flynn, Yaro Starak, Perry Marshall). I know following one person sounds easier, but not if they are teaching a bad model.

    I could go on and on, but I think I've made my point. Go your own way.
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    • Profile picture of the author princessleia
      Don't do it! Everyone here is right. The thing is if you want to blog you'll pay for extra hosting for that! If you want to have a php script that has cool quizzes that tell people "What dating style are you?" "Who's your perfect guy" etc. You'll have to pay for extra hosting for that.

      If you want a DECENT Email system, you'll have to use Gmail. If you want to schedule posts for when you're out of town to show up, You CAN'T with SBI.

      If you want to add a plug-in that allows people to book a dating appointment with you automatically, you can't do it with SBI. They'll tell you you can, but you're actually going to have to learn Wordpress and install it through Infini-It and PAY EXTRA for it. How dare they call their package All-in-One.

      Just remember, anytime they say you can do something with Infin-It, it means you're essentially BUYING ADDITIONAL HOSTING elsewhere.
      (When you could have just saved the high cost of SBI by getting standard hosting elsewhere).
      If you don't believe me just ask them. If I use Infini-it to add (insert the function I want to add) do I have to buy additional hosting elsewhere? (They'll either dodge the question by giving you some nonsense about building traffic first or eventually have to fess up and say "Yes." Listen to their WORDS carefully. They dodge direct questions A LOT).

      If you get successful and take on an assistant, you have to give them FULL ACCESS to your site. They can cut off your billing. Delete pages. Everything. You can't just give them their own password and limited access to just post.

      If you want to hire someone to custom design something, you'll have a hard time finding someone who can do it with SitebuildIt, and they'll tell you to do Sitesell coaching which COSTS EXTRA.

      They say all-in-one, and all you need is traffic, but that is MISLEADING.

      AND, they act like their system is easy to understand. Their "Action Guide" is said to take TEN DAYS (but the days are metaphorical), the to get through, but the truth is there are people who NEVER FINISH it. It is long boring, outdated, and tedious.

      Seriously, if you have a problem with Wordpress, you can Google it or hire a cheap student or someone from another country to talk you through it. If you want to hire someone to build out a few pages on your site, you can do it through Odesk for cheap, but SBI "Pro Services" (which they don't tell you about) cost $399 to $4400 dollars. That's in ADDITION to the $300(annually) or $360 if you pay monthly, for basic hosting.

      They don't even have a regular blog function. You can't use your iPad to work on your site. You can't upload photos from your phone and just make a quick post out of it with an app. There are NO APPS. The whole thing is a really complicated mess.

      They make it sound easy, but that's because they're trying to sell you on something WAY OVERPRICED that does almost NOTHING.

      Notice no one here is trying to sell you something. Sitesell totally is, and it is NOT cheap. Save your money. Buy something GOOD. Start small and work your way up. Don't waste all that time moving out of Weebly only to have to move out SBI (after spending way too much money) in a year or two.
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  • Profile picture of the author maxsi
    Uuummmm....We are on SBI and never got a single problem with our website (we got tons of free traffic with our website, many others too)

    Before to say/write "SBI out of business", think about it 100 more times. We can say SBI works because we use it since 8+ years
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    • Profile picture of the author tush
      Better late than never, I own two sites, One SBI and the other Worpress. I think both have props and cons. As a complete newbie, I can never put a price tag on what I learned from SBI, the step by step guide, finding everything in one place to me was indispensable. I still use their tools to build my Wordpress website. For Pros and those not planning on writing hundreds of pages, SBI might be a waste of time. But for a complete newbie, SBI might be the answer to your problems.

      But to move a site which is already built to SBI might be a waste of time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Move it from Weebly. Get your own domain name and non-free web hosting, and put the site on there. When you get serious, then your customers will get serious.
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  • Profile picture of the author n3o
    why not get a freelance to do the work for you ?
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  • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
    I'm going to agree with the general consensus and say that you want a site that you have full ownership and control over and one that is incredibly easy to work with and modify, so the best decision is WordPress.

    You do not have to know hardly anything about graphic design, HTML, CSS, PHP, etc. Of course it helps to have general knowledge of that stuff, but WordPress has made their platform so easy to adapt with plugins that you will rarely ever find yourself messing around with code of any kind.

    You say you like drag and drop, and for the most part WordPress is drag and drop once you have configured your general settings and any widgets/plugins you want to use. There are also several good plugins available that will completely set up your WordPress site with all of the plugins you need and you can literally be adding content to your site 20 minutes later. Not to mention there are thousands of free and premium themes available. You don't need to spend a lot of money on a good theme, either. I am using a theme that allows me to build just about any kind of site I want and it was only $27.

    Another good thing about WordPress is that it is also easy to do SEO. I use a free plugin called Yoast SEO that makes it incredibly easy to have perfect on page SEO. I do zero off page SEO with my blogs and they rank very well. All I do is concentrate on creating awesome content and making sure my on page SEO is perfect and I am able to outrank a lot of sites that have been around a lot longer than mine.

    You have a really good niche and you sound like you have a vision for your business and you are already building a list. All you need now is to get your new site together and really concentrate on pumping out top quality content and bringing in organic Google traffic. Make sure you have opt-in forms at the bottom of all of your blog posts and also in your sidebar. I even have an opt-in form that pops up just as they are about to exit. It captures lots of subscribers that I would normally lose.

    I have come to learn that people who come from Google/Bing/Yahoo and subscribe from an article on my blog are the absolute best subscribers you can get. These people found something they were looking for on your site and then liked your content enough to want to give you their email address. You just can't get a better subscriber than that. This is also how you start bringing in social media traffic because people that like your content enough will most definitely want to share it with their friends. You know how it feels. You find something amazing on the internet and you just want to share it with others. The key is to make your content good enough that it's one of those things that people just have to share.

    Well, I guess I rambled on a bit. It's just that the topic is something I am passionate about. Good luck to you in the future and my advice is to dive headfirst into WordPress!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      But the point you miss it that SBI...
      And with that comment the OP stopped participating in the thread last spring and has not been logged on here for months.

      People who had used SBI - and those with success online - gave good advice but the answers didn't suit the OP's plan.

      It's a bad idea to become sold on a plan before you fully vet it...but I think that's what happened. Wonder if he ended up with SBI or not....
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  • Profile picture of the author NetSensei
    Site Build It is a paid solution. I started online with them. After a couple of years though I felt limited. I have heard that since then they have added the ability to use php with their system. But back when I was with them you couldn't without some added software.

    What I can tell about SBI is that they are reasonable. Don't be scared off by rumors that you hear about them. If you go with that choice you will find that their forum is very helpful. Infact, it is the one thing I really miss about them.

    That said, other solutions would be just as good and cheaper. I am not sure what their price is now, but back then it was $299 a year, or $29.99 a month. If you could host multiple sites for that price it would be no problem, but that is for each and every site you wish to host on their system.

    The price does include their autoresponder service, so you will save on having to get Aweber or Getresponse or something like that.

    Back when I used their platform many of the features seemed to me to be a bit outdated. The overall system is good. The training they provide is excellent and the people on the forum are awesome. If you are new, you will feel like you have a place you can get real answers from knowledgeable marketers.

    It has been a few years for me since I used them and knowing what I know now and the fact I can design my own sites, code, I would never go back. It would not be my first recommendation, but SBI is not a scam or anything like that. So if you do go with them there is nothing to fear.

    P.S. Their price includes domain registration and annual renewal.
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  • I recommend you move your site to a self-hosted wordpress site.

    That way you have full control over your site
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