For all you Clickbankers out there....

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As some of you already know, there's alot of bullshit out there in terms of products, and Clickbank is no exception to the amount of bullshit offers it lists.

My question is... do people REALLY buy this shit?

I'm beginning to think this is all some kind of sick joke, despite all the time and effort I have put in over the past 2 months studying internet marketing.

Somebody, please show me the light... or what I'm missing here.
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  • Originally Posted by astahesta View Post

    As some of you already know, there's alot of bullshit out there in terms of products, and Clickbank is no exception to the amount of bullshit offers it lists.

    My question is... do people REALLY buy this shit?

    I'm beginning to think this is all some kind of sick joke, despite all the time and effort I have put in over the past 2 months studying internet marketing.

    Somebody, please show me the light... or what I'm missing here.
    The only thing you're missing is learning more about what you're doing
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    • Profile picture of the author astahesta
      Yeah I dunno, I'm just a point where I'm already being consumed by utter hopelessness and it's only been 2 months.
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      • Originally Posted by astahesta View Post

        Yeah I dunno, I'm just a point where I'm already being consumed by utter hopelessness and it's only been 2 months.
        That's exactly why, you need to spend more time learning about what to do. You can only implement at the level of education you have in the field. Look for case studies.
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      • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
        Originally Posted by astahesta View Post

        Yeah I dunno, I'm just a point where I'm already being consumed by utter hopelessness and it's only been 2 months.
        You can't expect to achieve much in 2 months. It took me almost 4 years before I was actually making enough money online to pay my bills and live a relatively comfortable lifestyle. And I also worked 6-7 days a week at least 8 hours a day at building my business also. I failed many, many times, but when you finally succeed, it makes it all worth it. Trust me on that.

        Let me tell you that there is light at the end of the tunnel, and if you want to get anywhere as an Internet Marketer it is going to require LOTS of hard work, persistence, monetary investment, resilience and a bunch of other skills that are too many to name in this thread in order to achieve success.

        If you are a person who gives up easily or takes a lot of stock in negative things others say, you won't get very far in this business.

        Starting, running, and growing a successful Internet Marketing business is no different than a brick & mortar business. In fact, I think you need many more skills to run an online business than you do a traditional brick & mortar business.

        In short, you need to be a hard charger and willing to work until your fingers cramp from typing on the keyboard and your eyes hurt from looking at the monitor. And you need to do that EVERY day in the beginning.

        I am not trying to be a downer. I'm actually trying to help you by being real with you and not lying to you and telling you you can make $5K a week by next month. The reality is 99% of people who get into IM fail. IM is a long, hard road. If you are not willing to dedicate yourself to the journey 100%, maybe it's best not to start.
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Is there any vertical in particular where you've seen lots of crap products?
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    • Profile picture of the author astahesta
      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      Is there any vertical in particular where you've seen lots of crap products?
      If what you mean by vertical is niche, then I would pretty much say almost every single offer within them.

      The thing is, I am confident about the strategies I've setup to deploy, however the problem I'm percieving at the moment is that the online advertising landscape is changing rapidly in proportion to peoples bullshit radars.. which is why when I'm going through most of these tacky products, the question that instantly comes to me is....

      "is it actually going to be worth buying traffic towards this kind of junk? would people still believe the hype?"

      What 'I' think the greatest challenge internet marketers are going to face over the next few years is promoting a quality product that doesn't sell empty or half-arsed promises and this is actually my most stressful challenge, because there is alot of crap out there.

      And to be honest with you guys, I haven't spent a single cent on traffic so far because I'm only down to the last portion of my precious savings and as any of you can understand, I dont want to waste it trying to promote junk that people would be skeptical about.

      The money, is NOT a problem, finding the right offer is.
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  • Profile picture of the author RafaelThaGreat
    Hey buddy, I can tell your feeling hopeless like you've mentioned.

    It wasn't clear to me in your OP if you've actually started promoting an offer yet or if you're still studying internet marketing.

    My advice is to actually pick a niche that you're solving a real problem for people, build a landing page, capture email addresses, and drive traffic to that offer. You're probably going to fail slightly at first, but keep at it until you've got a steady money maker.
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  • Profile picture of the author SFNY
    Lmao have you read saltydroid.info ? Don't lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Marked09
    It's is true that a lot of people are only marketing to people, one solid advice that I can give you:

    "Trust Yourself More than other people"

    I don't mean don't trust other people advice but what I mean is do anything you can and learn from your own experience. You got to trust your instinct and know whether what your doing will bring you results.

    Nobody can tell you that "This is the right thing to do" or "This is what you should do"

    You can trust them at some point and test it yourself but don't just follow blindly! Try to reverse engineer and discover the reason/logic behind a step.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by astahesta View Post

    As some of you already know, there's alot of bullshit out there in terms of products, and Clickbank is no exception to the amount of bullshit offers it lists.

    My question is... do people REALLY buy this shit?

    I'm beginning to think this is all some kind of sick joke, despite all the time and effort I have put in over the past 2 months studying internet marketing.

    Somebody, please show me the light... or what I'm missing here.
    Sure people buy CB products all day long.

    There's no secret, match traffic to a product they want/need.
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  • Originally Posted by astahesta View Post

    My question is... do people REALLY buy this shit?
    Yes. Apparently 200,000,000 customers did.

    That's 200 million.

    I'm beginning to think this is all some kind of sick joke,
    You're beginning to think WHAT is all some kind of sick joke?

    Can you be more specific?

    despite all the time and effort I have put in over the past 2 months studying internet marketing.
    Studying internet marketing?

    Did you buy a specific product? Course? Got yourself a mentor? Just browsing this forum?

    All of those are fine but, have you tried to market anything yet?

    If yes, what? how?

    If no, why not?


    Somebody, please show me the light... or what I'm missing here.
    It sounds like you're approaching all of this from a desperation / frustration angle.

    Having a look at this other thread you started:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/mind-war...heres-why.html

    There are only so many threads a newbie can (should) start that sound like "Its been a few week / months, I give up" until those that try to help will also "give up".

    It sounds like you started off with all of this being hopeless. Blaming everything else, including putting down Click bank products, (where some of us also sell products) is not going to help you.

    I'm all for folks leaving their job (if they are not happy) and work for themselves etc,
    but it almost sounds like you may want to consider going back to a full time job for a while,
    and get out of your rut first?

    This game is hard enough on those who are clear headed,
    thus extremely hard on those who jump into it, trying to figure things out,
    while already being in a deep dark hole.
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    • Profile picture of the author Devilfish168
      I using one click bank product which is for building list.

      Not bad also using it to promote earn affiliate while building list.

      Yes some products I see is like....zzz

      Some is good.

      Is like trying to find a gold inside.
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    • Profile picture of the author astahesta
      Originally Posted by stoltingmediagroup View Post

      Yes. Apparently 200,000,000 customers did.

      That's 200 million.



      You're beginning to think WHAT is all some kind of sick joke?

      Can you be more specific?



      Studying internet marketing?

      Did you buy a specific product? Course? Got yourself a mentor? Just browsing this forum?

      All of those are fine but, have you tried to market anything yet?

      If yes, what? how?

      If no, why not?




      It sounds like you're approaching all of this from a desperation / frustration angle.

      Having a look at this other thread you started:

      http://www.warriorforum.com/mind-war...heres-why.html

      There are only so many threads a newbie can (should) start that sound like "Its been a few week / months, I give up" until those that try to help will also "give up".

      It sounds like you started off with all of this being hopeless. Blaming everything else, including putting down Click bank products, (where some of us also sell products) is not going to help you.

      I'm all for folks leaving their job (if they are not happy) and work for themselves etc,
      but it almost sounds like you may want to consider going back to a full time job for a while,
      and get out of your rut first?

      This game is hard enough on those who are clear headed,
      thus extremely hard on those who jump into it, trying to figure things out,
      while already being in a deep dark hole.
      1) I'm aware of commissions CB has dished out to its affilliates. My ultimate worry is that this whole advertising junk products game is going to come to a big bang, just because I think that peoples bullshit radars are becoming more advanced and therefore, there would be less opportunity for online marketers looming ahead, but I could be wrong.

      2) Specifically the promotion of junk for the illusion of service, but I'll digress because I was just really frustrated when I typed it up.

      3) I've watched more tutorials/seminars/webinars than I can count and have taken down more notes than I can possibly absorb in a one sitting. I've learned whatever I could from people who are making millions of this stuff but no, I haven't actually started doing anything because I don't want to risk spending whatever savings I have left like everyone else has done here.

      4) Pretty much.
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      • Originally Posted by astahesta View Post

        1) I'm aware of commissions CB has dished out to its affilliates. My ultimate worry is that this whole advertising junk products game is going to come to a big bang,
        Since junk is a relative term, I don't know that there will ever be a general classification of junk products that will come to a bang. People create a product and think it's the best thing ever. A customer buys it and thinks its junk. That's been happening for decades, even offline. (late night infomercial anyone?)

        Affiliates don't always know what exactly they are promoting either. They are sold on promoting the product the same way the customer is sold. (A convincing JV page, pitch page). But affiliates rarely buy the product first.

        just because I think that peoples bullshit radars are becoming more advanced and therefore, there would be less opportunity for online marketers looming ahead, but I could be wrong.
        You are probably right. When it comes to info products, peoples BS radars have become more advanced, and those people may end up seeking out better value, better quality, a better deal, or simply visit wikipedia or a blog instead if they want to learn about a certain topic.

        I do believe that allot of information that is available online for free, is simply being re written and repackaged for sale. But that doesn't stop there being a market for it. Also, the amount of products covering the same topic etc will also never cease. If book libraries had only one book per topic on a shelf, it would be a very small library. So CB has thousands of eBooks and courses on the same IM topics, and unfortunately many could be considered junk.

        But as long as affiliates make money promoting these products, (or are allowed to make money from (junk) by the powers that be) then there will be a market.
        As for products that are made for the purpose of a business tool, such as software, scripts background music, graphics etc, Clickbank does have some quality products on there.

        Specifically the promotion of junk for the illusion of service, but I'll digress because I was just really frustrated when I typed it up.
        One doesn't have to be frustrated to make that statement. I fully agree that this exists. I get emails that sound like: "Because I love you, my valued subscriber, I have a great recommendation for you today. I had to twist my friends arm to get you this deal, but you have to hurry, click here now before it's gone. I'll be back tomorrow to help you out some more!"

        But that seems to be the game for a large percentage of newer affiliates who learn that all you have to do to make money online is 1. Build a list. 2. Pretend to be their friend. 3. Find products to promote. 4. Fire away.....

        I've watched more tutorials/seminars/webinars than I can count and have taken down more notes than I can possibly absorb in a one sitting. I've learned whatever I could from people who are making millions of this stuff but no, I haven't actually started doing anything because I don't want to risk spending whatever savings I have left like everyone else has done here.
        Some people are not at a level yet to learn from people who are "making millions" off this stuff. Sure, the "mindset" that financially successful people have is good to take notes on, but the reason they have a large cash flow is because they sometimes inject hundreds of thousands of $ "into" their business operations.

        I think that's where most get discouraged. When they finally come across a millionaire good guy who drops a reality check by breaking down how much it really "costs" to make his kind of income online.

        On this forum, they have a WAMA (Warrior ask me anything) question and answer session for members of the war room). Some of the topics and advice given by the experienced marketer hosting the show, is so far detached from the current level of most of the attendees, that I personally don't see the point.

        What most newcomers will end up with is a stack of notes that may be useful someday, but by the time that someday comes, much of the notes will be outdated.

        So stop attending, learning, taking notes, and go do something today online that gives you an opportunity for someone to click a "buy now" button and send you money for something of quality.

        P.S. There's more to life than Clickbank.
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  • Profile picture of the author Koolsteve
    I was where you are now a few years ago - anger and frustration etc.

    One day I decided to settle down and do the job properly. I gave up trying to just place ads randomly here and there and hope for the best. I studied hard for weeks to learn the correct way to make money with ClickBank products. I now do have a steady monthly income via affiliate marketing. Tip: choose ClickBank products with monthly reoccurring income. It ensures a passive base monthly income. Don't give up and get frustrated. Good luck for your future success :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author David Marketer
    Hello. heheh I suggest you stay away from things that do not work faldrocche
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  • Profile picture of the author winnermarketing
    ???? OF COURSE PEOLPLE BUY PRODUCT!

    Take a look at conversion rate
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  • Profile picture of the author zdebx
    Clickbank is NOT just about MMO products. There's a whole other side to it with genuine non-IM products, where you'll find truly valuable ebooks.
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  • Profile picture of the author The IM Institute
    Sounds like you're suffering from information overload a bit.

    My advice, and what I wish someone had told me 16 years ago when I started...

    Pick ONE area of Internet Marketing that you can see dedicating yourself to (...as in you kind of enjoy it) and do just that. Dedicate yourself to that, and ONLY that until you absolutely master it. Refuse to be distracted as new, shiny things come and go. Stay with your what you've chosen.

    Once you've mastered YOUR ONE THING you'll find that you have a foundation from which to then and ONLY then grow and go into other areas on.

    Pick ONE THING and stay with it!

    P.S.

    And no matter what you pick, START BUILDING A LIST FROM DAY ONE!

    My two cents.
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  • Profile picture of the author dhiraj192
    There's no better encouragement than when the first sale comes in as a result of your efforts. They've become a buyer. Better still if you captured their email then they may buy again in the future. Keep going so as not to have wasted your time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Originally Posted by astahesta View Post

    ...do people REALLY buy this shit?
    I used to think IM was just a bunch of horsesh*t, and the best way to proceed is "fake it to you make it". Well, i used to fake it so much where i didn't pay the last month of rent on the lease, and it showed up on my credit report.

    Don't ever fake it till you make it.

    Plus, you *don't* have to limit yourself to direct marketing. You should try ebay and other sites like it - who already have millions of people coming to their site everyday looking to BUY something. Sounds reasonable, right?
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