Same article to directories?

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Hello guys,

Do you submit the same article that you wrote for EZA, to other article directories? Is that not duplicate content? Will the other article directories article page be indexed?
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  • Profile picture of the author geolt7
    Read this thread: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html.

    I am sure you will find the answers you are looking for there.
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  • Profile picture of the author shoaibonline
    Hi gskesavan
    yes i submit same article on different article directories but with some amendments. yes its a duplicate contact. usually it happens that other article directories index your article page.
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  • Profile picture of the author AskStevenSmith
    I also do what others are saying. I first wait to be approved by Ezine, then I submit to the rest. It's worked well for me.

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  • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
    OP, read this thread. Your answers are there.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html
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  • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
    Originally Posted by livewellfinancial View Post

    I think some directory are not allowed a duplicate articles.
    Always put your article on your site first. In fact, if you want a proper method for submitting articles, just read over JayXtreme's post.

    And also please please PLEASE people, stop giving out advice that you must change/rework your articles before submitting them to Ezine. That is shite advice and leads people to repurpose work they may not wish to - taking time from their lives and efforts for a meaningless task. Article directories are like radio stations for your "songs". You wouldn't change a recording of your latest hit for every station that decides to play it yes?

    Duplicate content is one of the most boring, redundant, and stubborn non-issues still causing paranoia in the IM world. It's like some kind of trippy Urban myth. The case has been closed eons ago by Google and by example. Telling someone to repurpose their work before submitting to sites is the same as telling someone to make sure they rub a cow's belly for luck. Rubbish.

    Rant over
    Content has value, duplicate or not, based on the amount of visitors you point at it. Where that content lives makes no difference to the search engines, and it is neither harder nor easier to rank that content no matter where it resides. It's all in the time spent doing proper SEO work.

    It can be on 1 000 000 different sites and wherever you point your visitors at, within those 1 000 000 sites, this is where you will see the most VALUE for that content.
    I'm quoting responses in the thread I suggested you all read, so you can see how ridiculous some of the things being said here actually are.

    I would advise anyone here to really read through that thread because there are article directory owners posting these same facts, as well as some long time heavy hitters (including me) telling you that dupe content is rubbish, and that the search engines will NOT bury all but the most relevant article.

    I personally have 4 niches right now where I own the front page of google. In 1 niche the top spot is my site, 3 to 12 are all articles from different directories. Number three is an articles Base article, 4 is Ezine, 7 is another site who took my article from Ezine and used it on their site, and so on. And they are all the same article, unchanged.

    There are plenty of other marketers here that will tell you the same things I am ranting about now, but this debate has been debunked so many times on this forum I'm pretty sure everyone is tired of going over it again and again. In fact I'm only jumping in here so that someone might avoid all that unnecessary work.

    The bottom line is this: when you distribute the same article to many directories it IS NOT dupe content, it is called SYNDICATION. And unless any one directory has paid you exclusive rights to your work they have no right to ask that you provide your work exclusively to them. It's that simple.
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    • Profile picture of the author Marcel Hartmann
      Buzzle and Ezine are the strictest; you must have original content for these.
      Case in point: I once tried to post to Buzzle with 50% originality after posting to Ezine, even taking care to use a different title, links, etc., but it was rejected as duplicate content.
      For most other sites, you can use the exact same article. But the rules of Ezine and Buzzle - last time I checked - specified that only original content is to be submitted, and I've learnt that the hard way.
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      • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
        Originally Posted by mhartmann View Post

        Buzzle and Ezine are the strictest; you must have original content for these.
        Case in point: I once tried to post to Buzzle with 50% originality after posting to Ezine, even taking care to use a different title, links, etc., but it was rejected as duplicate content.
        For most other sites, you can use the exact same article. But the rules of Ezine and Buzzle - last time I checked - specified that only original content is to be submitted, and I've learnt that the hard way.
        What can I say. I tried.
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  • Profile picture of the author JWB
    I use a article submission service and they distribute the same article to tons of sites but on their website, they say its not duplicate content
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  • Profile picture of the author Hafsoh
    If someone has the time, or the resources, new articles would work best in this scenario, if otherwise, then making a few changes to the existing article and submitting its okay
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    • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
      Originally Posted by Hafsoh View Post

      If someone has the time, or the resources, new articles would work best in this scenario, if otherwise, then making a few changes to the existing article and submitting its okay

      Holy crap. I have had enough. I said it before. This time I mean it. I am never answering the duplicate content myth again. All y'all just keep on with the time wasting. More SERP and money for me while you plod away at "original articles". IM does have a learning curve guys, but this isn't a curve it's a circle.

      Do people even read anymore? Is anyone here to learn and absorb, or are we all just jumping in a thread to spout off nonsense opinions and then run away?

      I'm done. No more. Rich Jerk (James), Jay? Maybe you guys can come in here and take this thread to school, cuz this is just nuts and I'm getting a headache.

      I swear Matt Cutts could come in this forum and say what nonsense duplicate content is, and the very next post will be something like...

      "must rewrite or Ezine and Google will come to your house and eat your children"

      Is this a conspiracy or something?

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      • Profile picture of the author Zanti
        Peter I agree with you.

        I've only been on the forum officially for a few months. In that time I have researched this issue top to bottom. All of the facts that I have uncovered are: duplicate copy regarding articles is a myth as you say.

        Submit to your own site first, the to ezine or whoever you want next.

        Try it and see if it works for you.

        To many people who have years in Im say it works for them, I tend to believe the vet's in this.

        Just my opinion.

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        • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
          Originally Posted by Zanti View Post

          Peter I agree with you.

          I've only been on the forum officially for a few months. In that time I have researched this issue top to bottom. All of the facts that I have uncovered are: duplicate copy regarding articles is a myth as you say.

          Submit to your own site first, the to ezine or whoever you want next.

          Try it and see if it works for you.

          To many people who have years in Im say it works for them, I tend to believe the vet's in this.

          Just my opinion.

          Z
          Finally a voice of reason.
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      • Profile picture of the author TheRichJerksNet
        Hi Peter,
        The problem here is there are way too many "self proclaimed" experts out there that will write a ebook and slap it out there just to build a stupid mail list that they can spam. If I only had 5 cents for every time I have answered this duplicate content myth I would be rich.

        The bottom line is this, if these people want to think EZA is God's gift to Article Marketing then they can be my guest and give them all their high quality content and lose sales. They can beat that dead horse all day long and while they are doing that the people that actually do listen to people that "do" know what they talk about will prosper.

        It's been said time and time again to post your content on your site first and that duplicate content is a myth. I would post links to further prove this point but then I would just give ideas to some competition. I will say this though I do have some of the same content "on my domain" and I rank #5 for a major keyword that has over 300 million results. My ranking is even above many of the self proclaimed experts.

        For those that wish to still continue with these dup content myths and thinking they need to give their high quality content to a self proclaimed authority article directory, let me ask you this...

        * When is the last time one of those article directories personally advertised your article that you posted on their article directory ??

        It's a simple question, I know my authors can answer this question easily but I would love to hear from some of those that continue not to listen to sound and proven advice...

        Anyways my little rant is over with.. Peter, you can lead a horse to water but remember you can not force that horse to drink the water.

        James

        Originally Posted by peter gibson View Post


        Holy crap. I have had enough. I said it before. This time I mean it. I am never answering the duplicate content myth again. All y'all just keep on with the time wasting. More SERP and money for me while you plod away at "original articles". IM does have a learning curve guys, but this isn't a curve it's a circle.

        Do people even read anymore? Is anyone here to learn and absorb, or are we all just jumping in a thread to spout off nonsense opinions and then run away?

        I'm done. No more. Rich Jerk (James), Jay? Maybe you guys can come in here and take this thread to school, cuz this is just nuts and I'm getting a headache.

        I swear Matt Cutts could come in this forum and say what nonsense duplicate content is, and the very next post will be something like...

        "must rewrite or Ezine and Google will come to your house and eat your children"

        Is this a conspiracy or something?

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        • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
          Originally Posted by TheRichJerksNet View Post

          Hi Peter,
          The problem here is there are way too many "self proclaimed" experts out there that will write a ebook and slap it out there just to build a stupid mail list that they can spam. If I only had 5 cents for every time I have answered this duplicate content myth I would be rich.

          The bottom line is this, if these people want to think EZA is God's gift to Article Marketing then they can be my guest and give them all their high quality content and lose sales. They can beat that dead horse all day long and while they are doing that the people that actually do listen to people that "do" know what they talk about will prosper.

          It's been said time and time again to post your content on your site first and that duplicate content is a myth. I would post links to further prove this point but then I would just give ideas to some competition. I will say this though I do have some of the same content "on my domain" and I rank #5 for a major keyword that has over 300 million results. My ranking is even above many of the self proclaimed experts.

          For those that wish to still continue with these dup content myths and thinking they need to give their high quality content to a self proclaimed authority article directory, let me ask you this...

          * When is the last time one of those article directories personally advertised your article that you posted on their article directory ??

          It's a simple question, I know my authors can answer this question easily but I would love to hear from some of those that continue not to listen to sound and proven advice...

          Anyways my little rant is over with.. Peter, you can lead a horse to water but remember you can not force that horse to drink the water.

          James
          Boy is that the truth! It's like swimming upstream with this. Whenever I see someone say this crap I start to think of how much a time waster believing this myth would have been when I started. So lately when I catch the bad advice I try to at least point people in the direction of the other thread.

          It just seems like the newer cats here aren't coming in to get proper info, but spew off badly formed opinions with no proof to back it up. No one seems to understand the concept of syndication, or the role of article directories in internet marketing.

          I'm really done with this topic though. It's like you said, they can be my guest, it's just more room for me to dominate their markets, should I be in similar niches. Someone wasting that amount of time has no chance of competing with me. I just wish I could figure out how to get a shaking head smiley because this forum desperately needs it. lol!!
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      • Profile picture of the author Andy
        Originally Posted by peter gibson View Post



        "must rewrite or Ezine and Google will come to your house and eat your children"

        Peter,

        I'm glad to see you are finally get the message, however this is not ALWAYS the case, beleive me. I tried. I tried very hard.

        They took on look at my kids, shrugged their shoulders and turned and walked away.

        I guess some things are even scarier than duplicate content.

        God bless,

        Andy
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        • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
          Originally Posted by Andy View Post

          Peter,

          I'm glad to see you are finally get the message, however this is not ALWAYS the case, beleive me. I tried. I tried very hard.

          They took on look at my kids, shrugged their shoulders and turned and walked away.

          I guess some things are even scarier than duplicate content.

          God bless,

          Andy
          LOL. Now THAT is scary.

          In my own experience, I had submitted a story to EZA after submitting to my own site once. I then went to the store for some bread and when I came back home I noticed my block was cordoned off and google SWAT were checking ID's and randomly tazing people that looked similar to me.

          I immediately moved from Vancouver to Singapore and changed my identity, and since then I have been forced, under cover of darkness, to change houses every few weeks and cancel my credit cards.

          My sources (inside twitter) tell me EZA have since dispatched 50 Cent to assasinate me. I'll stay one step ahead of them though.

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          • Profile picture of the author Andy
            Originally Posted by peter gibson View Post

            LOL. Now THAT is scary.

            In my own experience, I had submitted a story to EZA after submitting to my own site once. I then went to the store for some bread and when I came back home I noticed my block was cordoned off and google SWAT were checking ID's and randomly tazing people that looked similar to me.

            I immediately moved from Vancouver to Singapore and changed my identity, and since then I have been forced, under cover of darkness, to change houses every few weeks and cancel my credit cards.

            My sources (inside twitter) tell me EZA have since dispatched 50 Cent to assasinate me. I'll stay one step ahead of them though.

            We are not alone brother... we are not EVER alone.

            Jon,

            My goal is to have hundreds of copies of hundreds of unique articles all over the net. When it comes right down to it, I don't care WHERE the traffic comes from

            It's like this to me: I can sell a book (a REAL book, like with paper and ink and a cover and everything) at 1000's of different places. If I was the author of that book, I would WANT to see it offered all over. Not everyone buys books at Amazon or the airport or the supermarket or at Borders. And if I have one bestselling book, I don't want to stop there. I'd want to write more. Same principle applies here.

            God bless,

            Andy
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  • Profile picture of the author ponting786
    Originally Posted by gskesavan View Post

    Hello guys,

    Do you submit the same article that you wrote for EZA, to other article directories? Is that not duplicate content? Will the other article directories article page be indexed?
    Hi...gskesavan!
    Sometimes,I submit the same article to the other article directories that I wrote for EZA...
    But I do little changes in it to make it unique..
    Well,to me,it is type of duplicate content if you do not make any changes..
    Yes,other article directories article page will be indexed..
    May,It helps you.....
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  • Profile picture of the author pur113810
    In this case of article submitting I would like to know the definition of original. Everywhere it is written that the content must be original. Imaging what I have in my blog is mine and can submit the same thing in any article directory?
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    • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
      Originally Posted by pur113810 View Post

      In this case of article submitting I would like to know the definition of original. Everywhere it is written that the content must be original. Imaging what I have in my blog is mine and can submit the same thing in any article directory?
      Original is as it implies. Original TO YOU, aka you are the author. And yes, of course you can then take that ORIGINAL content and place it on as many article directories as you wish, because it is still, at the end of the day, YOURS.

      Read through the thread, you'll find that this question has been answered.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jon Alexander
    so.. hands up who'd rather have 100 different unique articles, or 100 copies of the exact same article.

    Just curious.
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    • Profile picture of the author peter gibson
      Originally Posted by Jon Alexander View Post

      so.. hands up who'd rather have 100 different unique articles, or 100 copies of the exact same article.

      Just curious.
      My hand is up for 100 unique.

      Having said that, if 1 article takes me 30 minutes to write, 100 would take how much time exactly? And if I outsource my writing, what's the price difference between 1 article from 100?

      Unless I'm writing for publishers that will reward me handsomely for that time, or making a crapload of cash to pay a ghostwriter for 20000 articles a month as opposed to 200, I would rather spend it doing the things that will get my 1 article visitors - or buy an Audi.
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