Is it me ? People should stop Doing this here at Warrior Forum !!

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Seeing an enormous amount of 'Thread Resurrection' today ! More so than ever.

I think it might be best if we as a forum stay relevant.

And part of being relevant is to not continue to go in the Archives to find Threads one can post on just for the sake of Posting

It brings down the quality of this place !!



- Robert Andrew
#people #stop
  • Profile picture of the author HDRider
    Today? been seeing that for a while now. Threads are popping up from 4 -5 years ago.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Yeah I know it has.

      But I felt compelled because I have never entered so many Threads like today to see these old Threads raised from the dead.

      It has never been so incessant ,at least for me, like it has this morning
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  • Profile picture of the author sogeshirts
    I agree Robert. Especially since IM changes so much in just one year. Threads from five years ago aren't very relevant.
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  • Profile picture of the author winnermarketing
    Old threath could give wrong information because nowdays many things are changed!
    I hope WF do something about that
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  • Profile picture of the author agmccall
    everyone should start reporting the posts/threads to mods asking to delete recent posts and close thread. I think they might start to get the picture if they become overrun with reported threads, and maybe start spending time closing the old threads in order to preempt this practice

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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by agmccall View Post

      everyone should start reporting the posts/threads to mods asking to delete recent posts and close thread. I think they might start to get the picture if they become overrun with reported threads, and maybe start spending time closing the old threads in order to preempt this practice

      al
      Yeah when it comes down to it, it is just a lack of Creativity.

      People do not have enough Creativity and Insight to comment on today's issues so to get their Post count up they are resorting to go back in the Archives where they can "eventually " find something to comment on

      Lest it be a bone head of a comment
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    • Profile picture of the author Harvey Segal
      Originally Posted by agmccall View Post

      everyone should start reporting the posts/threads to mods asking to delete recent posts and close thread.
      That is indeed my new mission and I will report back on my progress, to this thread, on Jun 7 2020

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  • Profile picture of the author dustychimes
    Resurrecting threads from a few months back is one thing but years? good grief. There was a good bit of that going on over at MMG forum a few months ago, but the mods put a kibosh to that thankfully.
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  • Whenever I notice an increase in thread resurrections, they usually appear to cover one specific topic,
    and are brought back alive by those who are marketing something related.

    I.E. if that was my business model, I would simply look up all old threads that ask about music or sound etc, and I would respond to an old thread with something intelligent sounding, in hopes that all the convos continue so I can keep jumping in (without pointing to my sig.)

    Other dumbasses simply resurrect threads on a related topic to what they are marketing,
    and blatantly spam a link instead.

    (don't go getting any ideas kids).
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  • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
    The flip side of that coin is that we are constantly telling people to search the archives for answers.

    If, in fact, the answers that they find aren't suitable, or raise more questions for that person... doesn't a resurrection of an old post permit current updates to old strategies to be posted "in context"?

    I've seen the old threads being used for spam purposes as well, but locking older threads may not be the best answer. If we can spot sig spam... can't the mods do the same and then take action on just those that break the rules?
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  • Profile picture of the author @tjr
    ^Sid took the words right out of my mouth. Can't have your cake and eat it too if the user resurrecting is acting without malicious intent.
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  • Profile picture of the author Isaiah Jackson
    I was wondering why I was getting traffic from some old threads that I made posts in 4 years ago...
    makes sense now.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      doesn't a resurrection of an old post permit current updates to old strategies to be posted "in context"?
      90% of the time it ends up with people who don't realize it's an old bumped thread - quoting and arguing with comments made years ago by people who haven't been seen around these parts since then....

      Most of the bumps are by people looking a place to say "something" or by those spamming or trying to push a signature.
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  • Profile picture of the author DavidPSmith
    I have never understood why people have an issue with old threads. If it wasn't still relevant, it would not have shown up in search results. The age of a thread has nothing to do with its relevance. The content of the thread is what keeps bringing it up. Obviously people still have questions on the topic. So I can't see what the problem is. Would anyone mind explaining the 'old thread' issue to me, please? Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sid Hale
      Hey David,

      Originally Posted by DavidPSmith View Post

      I have never understood why people have an issue with old threads.
      I don't really think the existence of the old threads is the issue, but (as Kay and others have pointed out above) the misuse of those threads by forum spammers.


      If it wasn't still relevant, it would not have shown up in search results. The age of a thread has nothing to do with its relevance. The content of the thread is what keeps bringing it up. Obviously people still have questions on the topic. So I can't see what the problem is. Would anyone mind explaining the 'old thread' issue to me, please? Thanks.
      I feel certain that forum management is not going to eliminate the old threads. In fact, over several iterations of this forum, great pains have been taken to preserve that content precisely because it provides a huge amount of search engine fodder - bringing in more new members every day.

      I don't think locking those threads is the right answer, either. As you said, if they are relevant, why shouldn't those discussions be continued rather than starting a new thread on the same topic?

      More aggressive moderation is (IMHO) the preferred solution, but I'm sure that management would prefer to focus it's paid resources on the monetization aspects of the forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    I agree with the obvious and blatant spam. Everyone with one eye and half sense can see what some people are doing when they resurrect old threads.

    Here's another scenario though that happens all the time.

    Joe Newbie starts a thread about how to dig himself out of his financial hole. He's immediately told to use the search button because this exact question has been asked 100s of times and gets the impression (or is directly told) that if he doesn't do so then he is lazy.

    Joe finds a thread from 5 years ago that seems to be along the lines of what he's been thinking about doing to build a second income: writing short reports and selling them for $7.

    However he isn't clear about one part: Everyone in the thread mentioned Clickbank and PayPal as legitimate ways to take orders but no one mentioned 2CO and he's heard that they are best for digital products but he's not sure which one to use and if the information is current.

    So should he ask his question in the 5 year old thread or start a new one - where he'll be likely told that the question of payment processors have been brought up hundreds of times and he needs to use the search button?

    Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      So should he ask his question in the 5 year old thread or start a new one - where he'll be likely told that the question of payment processors have been brought up hundreds of times and he needs to use the search button?

      Mark
      He should post a new thread that starts out, "In the interest of good forum etiquette I have searched my topic extensively and have taken the time to read many relevant posts, but I still have some questions."

      That's what I always do, instead of resurrecting a dormant thread.

      Cheers. - Frank
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  • Ironically today's resurrected topic seems to be:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-products.html

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-products.html

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...lr-ebooks.html

    By the time you read the last post in each. (all the same person),
    I trust that the mods would have caught on, and removed the helpful reply as to where one might find PLR.
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  • Profile picture of the author The IM Institute
    I'm not sure I understand threads like THIS one.

    It's a public forum right? If those OLD threads are part of the public forum and someone stumbles across them and thinks they have something to add to them where's the harm?

    If they shouldn't be added to then perhaps they should be be 'closed' so they can't be 'resurrected', which makes them only available for historical and/or reference purposes.
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    • Profile picture of the author heavysm
      Originally Posted by The IM Institute View Post

      I'm not sure I understand threads like THIS one.

      It's a public forum right? If those OLD threads are part of the public forum and someone stumbles across them and thinks they have something to add to them where's the harm?

      If they shouldn't be added to then perhaps they should be be 'closed' so they can't be 'resurrected', which makes them only available for historical and/or reference purposes.
      Often the threads are outdated, or additional comments are made just to pad out the post count for new members. It happens often enough to be a problem. It see it often in the review sub forum where people post one liner comments about products that no longer exist from like 2009 - 2011. The comments might be helpful if they had any relevance for today's discussion, but they often do not.

      Then again, sometimes the line gets blurred when an broader topic gets resurrected. The trouble tends to be, however, that there are so many threads on the same broad topic there really is no need to resurrect those old threads.

      It's a problem with many heads, when one is cut off another more powerful ugly head grows in to take its place. Not an easy thing to moderate, namely due to blurred line situations, but there are some obvious examples of threads that just shouldn't be posted to anymore (i agree in those cases they should be closed, but eh).
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Why not just automatically lock threads after they pass a certain threshold like 30 days? Other forums do this.
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  • Profile picture of the author shaolefen
    Originally Posted by discrat View Post

    Seeing an enormous amount of 'Thread Resurrection' today ! More so than ever.

    I think it might be best if we as a forum stay relevant.

    And part of being relevant is to not continue to go in the Archives to find Threads one can post on just for the sake of Posting

    It brings down the quality of this place !!



    - Robert Andrew
    I'll tell you what I think about it in 5 years.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jackson Tan
    I personally have no issue with old threads popping up if it is a genuine post.. but if is brought out because of simply spamming.. then not cool not cool..

    A newbie will try to start a new thread and then in turn be advised to search the forum instead.. I understand the frustration since it happened to me before. I guess only the moderator or WF can suggest a better the to lock the thread or what..

    Cheers! Stay cool~
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    • Profile picture of the author professorrosado
      That practice was always done on every forum on the planet. The problem is that since the contributing users of the WF are down from past years, you are noticing the bread and butter forum practice more plainly.

      But why should a forum have archives if no one can interact with the content? Why should a forum accept a zillion new "How do I make money now" threads? - For the sake of being current?

      What we need to deal with are the 1,000's of threads that ask the same question. The ALL-IN-ONE threads are a good example of what should be done with the most commonly asked questions on the forum and moderators should cut and delete threads that ask the same thing over and over again. Let the old threads resurrect - maybe someone would bother to read them before asking the same question over again!
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  • Profile picture of the author simonmks
    you're right. professorrosado ...! best response of thread
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