10,000 email opens for $200? What's the catch?

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I've been Googling ways to get traffic and came across Emarketing Solutions. It's a bulk email service (red flag goes up), and they guarantee a 10% open rate.

As you can see if you click the link, one package they offer is 100,00 opt-in emails for $200. Your campaign can be "targeted," although the categories are somewhat broad.

Now, I've been around long enough to know that if something sounds too good to be true....

But what, specifically, is the "catch" here? If it was really possible to get 10,000 opens for $200 you could run a cost-per-lead campaign paying $2 and with a measly 1% conversion profit $1,800!

That clearly is ridiculous. So what are companies such as this actually doing? How do they stay in business? If you check out their site it's quite well done and compelling, not an obvious ripoff by any means. I'm genuinely curious about this.
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  • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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    Originally Posted by Brian Cart View Post

    If you check out their site it's quite well done and compelling, not an obvious ripoff by any means.
    Hmmmm. If I were going to rip people off I believe I would build the nicest, most impressive site I could, so folks would make the same assumption you already have. How much luck would anyone have utilizing a site that looked like an 'obvious ripoff?'

    Think about it. :-)

    Cheers. - Frank
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    • Profile picture of the author Brian Cart
      Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

      Hmmmm. If I were going to rip people off I believe I would build the nicest, most impressive site I could, so folks would make the same assumption you already have. How much luck would anyone have utilizing a site that looked like an 'obvious ripoff?'

      Think about it. :-)

      Cheers. - Frank
      Whoa, my "assumption" is that their claims are ridiculous, as I said in my post. I'm not buying their baloney. What I am interested in is what such companies actually deliver and how they stay in business if they're fraudulent.
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      • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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        Originally Posted by Brian Cart View Post

        and how they stay in business if they're fraudulent.
        Because there is an endless supply of newbies that they are able to victimize and virtually nothing they can do after getting ripped-off.

        With each new day thousands of individuals enter the world of IM to find the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. As long as that continues, there will always be people ready, willing and able to prey on them.

        Cheers. - Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author gnojham
    Originally Posted by Brian Cart View Post

    How do they stay in business?
    people are stupid, plain and simple
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  • Profile picture of the author icoachu
    Focus on CONVERSIONS not open rates

    Seriously

    Otherwise, you are just wasting your time.... and money
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  • Profile picture of the author helisell
    There is absolutely no way that anyone will get a 1% conversion from these lists.

    I did some work for a large company who were using a similar service and their conversion was something like 0.0002%.

    Not worth throwing money at, you are dead right to be suspicious.
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    • Profile picture of the author Brian Cart
      Originally Posted by helisell View Post

      There is absolutely no way that anyone will get a 1% conversion from these lists.

      I did some work for a large company who were using a similar service and their conversion was something like 0.0002%.

      Not worth throwing money at, you are dead right to be suspicious.
      Lol, may as well be an absolute zero conversion rate. But again, I'm more than suspicious - I know it's crap. I'm just wondering how they stay in business if they're just ripoff artists. Don't people lodge complaints? Demand money back? Threaten to sue?
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      • Profile picture of the author gnojham
        Originally Posted by Brian Cart View Post

        Lol, may as well be an absolute zero conversion rate. But again, I'm more than suspicious - I know it's crap. I'm just wondering how they stay in business if they're just ripoff artists. Don't people lodge complaints? Demand money back? Threaten to sue?
        people are stupid, plain and simple
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        • Profile picture of the author Tyler Pratt
          You could put an ad up on adfly and get way more opens then that for the money.

          Both will give you the same results. ZERO
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Ignore this company. Next time you come across a bulk emailing company again, don't even let the name and idea of the scheme escape your mind. Tuck it away... forever, and go run some PPC ads or something. Your money will be better used this way.
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  • Profile picture of the author DRP
    Bulk email services are always garbage. Sure, they can deliver clicks with their bots and proxies - even some clicks! But you won't get any valuable leads that way. (Bots can even submit forms too, generating fake leads, just FYI.) And most people are too ignorant to realize this...so that's how fraudulent operations can go on and on. Furthermore, the FTC and other governing authorities have bigger fish to fry.
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  • Profile picture of the author mark healy
    I would say stay away from this it sounds dodgy. Red flag for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    I agree with icoachu,focus on conversions.

    I'll buy guaranteed clicks (solo ads) but I would never spend money just to get people to open my emails (you mentioned they were offering 10,000 opens for $200 ). You said the company was offering an email list of 10,000 people for $200. Seems to good to be true plus they didn't tell you what kind of email list it was. I would run paid ads on facebook or google so you have control of the kind of optins you're getting. I saw the site, to tell you the truth I wouldn't spend my money with them. Just my two cents...
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