How to make $1 million Online ?..show tested ways

by fxstay
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What are trusty and tested ways to make $1 million Online ?

suggest an online business except forex trading as currently i am making money from it online and want to try other business.

my major question is how much should i invest and how much time i need to make 1 million dollar ?

i prefer to sell online product but every tested business plan you heard works is ok, so share your suggestions here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve B
    You do realize you're asking mostly newbies on this forum, 95% of which haven't made a dime online, to show you their tested ways to do something that they have never done.

    Then there are a few very successful business owners here that you want to divulge the exact methods that they slaved over for years building into their own empire - and you want them to hand that to a stranger?

    OK, I'm feeling generous. Here's what you do to make $1 million online.
    1. Create a digital product that gives you $100 profit per sale. The market has to have lots of rabid fans and your product has to be the best among all the competitors.
    2. Set up a selling system that makes one sale every day like clockwork.
    3. Drive heavy targeted traffic to your site and ramp up your sales to average 5 every day.
    4. In about five and a half years you'll reach your goal.
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    • Profile picture of the author gnojham
      Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

      You do realize you're asking mostly newbies on this forum, 95% of which haven't made a dime online, to show you their tested ways to do something that they have never done.
      you realize he just made that stupid post just to get his signature shown in the hopes of getting somebody to click on his links?
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    • Profile picture of the author fxstay
      Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

      1. Create a digital product that gives you $100 profit per sale. The market has to have lots of rabid fans and your product has to be the best among all the competitors.
      2. Set up a selling system that makes one sale every day like clockwork.
      3. Drive heavy targeted traffic to your site and ramp up your sales to average 5 every day.
      4. In about five and a half years you'll reach your goal.
      i prefer to focus on number 1 but a product with lower price $1-10$ ...the qouestion is which Online product sells easy and the most than others ?
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    • Originally Posted by Steve B View Post

      You do realize you're asking mostly newbies on this forum, 95% of which haven't made a dime online, to show you their tested ways to do something that they have never done.

      Then there are a few very successful business owners here that you want to divulge the exact methods that they slaved over for years building into their own empire - and you want them to hand that to a stranger?

      OK, I'm feeling generous. Here's what you do to make $1 million online.
      1. Create a digital product that gives you $100 profit per sale. The market has to have lots of rabid fans and your product has to be the best among all the competitors.
      2. Set up a selling system that makes one sale every day like clockwork.
      3. Drive heavy targeted traffic to your site and ramp up your sales to average 5 every day.
      4. In about five and a half years you'll reach your goal.
      Steve
      95%?? Are you kidding me? You are way way way off. More like 99.99 is closer to the truth.
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      • Profile picture of the author kevineverett
        Originally Posted by HelpingYouBeAnExpert View Post

        95%?? Are you kidding me? You are way way way off. More like 99.99 is closer to the truth.
        What is wrong with being new to something. Everyone has to start somewhere right.

        I would say it is better to listen to what others have to say if you want to learn. That is why I have been a member since 2011 but only just now decided to get active.

        Also I heard somewhere you cannot make money (the Mint does that). What you actually do is create value, then exchange that for something you want.

        Interesting concept
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  • Profile picture of the author aizaku
    Steve just gave u a solid quantitative approach.

    but this requires a system in place that you have to sharpen and refine.

    A steady niche traffic source

    A well tested landing page with a kick ass lead magnet

    A one time offer thank u page

    An email funnel that will provide plenty of great content to your list and sell them on your $100 product.

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    Originally Posted by fxstay View Post

    What are trusty and tested ways to make $1 million Online ?

    suggest an online business except forex trading as currently i am making money from it online and want to try other business.

    my major question is how much should i invest and how much time i need to make 1 million dollar ?

    i prefer to sell online product but every tested business plan you heard works is ok, so share your suggestions here.
    * Create your own website that offers a product or service
    * Price competitively within the market
    * Market the crap out of it with organic and paid traffic
    * Make sure you're adding VALUE
    * Over deliver to your customers

    That simple formula has worked for me since 1998. 5 multi-million dollar online startups since then.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      It's not so much the question (how do i earn $$$ is one of the most popular thread titles some days)---it's that someone who has been posting here for 4 years would expect the question to be answered.

      If you are making money with Forex - why not focus on that instead of starting something new?
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
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    All B.S. aside, I do not know anyone that doesn't do 6-7 figures...if they know what they are doing.

    Another thought and while I have never made any money doing it, nor have I ever tried..Coaching?
    If Forex is working for you at a high enough level, I have to imagine there are people that would pay to learn. Of course you would have to deliver.

    I recently started a new company and while the main focus is to get direct lead generation customers VS always dealing with CPA networks. I've thought about adding high ticket consulting/coaching to it. But I have thought about it so many times and never done it, so who knows.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert999
    Originally Posted by fxstay View Post

    What are trusty and tested ways to make $1 million Online ?

    suggest an online business except forex trading as currently i am making money from it online and want to try other business.

    my major question is how much should i invest and how much time i need to make 1 million dollar ?

    i prefer to sell online product but every tested business plan you heard works is ok, so share your suggestions here.
    1) Create a clickbank affiliate website about any niche like internet marking/make money online. May be one page website.

    2) offer a free gift of great value. Don't offer some PLR of $5 worth. Invest to create some really great stuff for your visitors. e-book, software, free course etc.

    3) Collect email addresses, build list using getresponse or awber.

    4) Select 4-5 products from clickbank to promote. Products with recurring payments are best. Test products yourself before selling to others. Only promote products that are really cool.

    5) Create an email series of 15-30 days promoting these clickbank products. Copy all emails to your autoresponder so that your subscribers start getting them after they subscribe on your website.

    6) Now buy traffic from sources like facebook, solo ads, Banner Ads on related blogs etc to grow your subscribers list.

    7) Do calculations. For example:
    - You spent $200 on advertising
    - You got 1000 visitors to your website and 300 of them became your subscribers. (30% conversion)
    - Out of these 300 subscribers, 15 people bought some stuff through your affiliate links from your emails. (5% conversion)
    - Suppose your average commission per sale was $30. It means you earned 15x30 = $450.

    It means you spent $200 and earned $450. Net profit was $250.

    Now calculate your earning per visitor. 1000 visitors earned you $250. It means earning per visitor is $0.25.

    Now scale it. Buy 4 millions of targeted visitors to your optin page/website and earn 1 million of revenue.

    This is simple I think :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author fxstay
      Originally Posted by Robert999 View Post

      1) Create a clickbank affiliate website about any niche like internet marking/make money online. May be one page website.

      2) offer a free gift of great value. Don't offer some PLR of $5 worth. Invest to create some really great stuff for your visitors. e-book, software, free course etc.

      3) Collect email addresses, build list using getresponse or awber.

      4) Select 4-5 products from clickbank to promote. Products with recurring payments are best. Test products yourself before selling to others. Only promote products that are really cool.

      5) Create an email series of 15-30 days promoting these clickbank products. Copy all emails to your autoresponder so that your subscribers start getting them after they subscribe on your website.

      6) Now buy traffic from sources like facebook, solo ads, Banner Ads on related blogs etc to grow your subscribers list.

      7) Do calculations. For example:
      - You spent $200 on advertising
      - You got 1000 visitors to your website and 300 of them became your subscribers. (30% conversion)
      - Out of these 300 subscribers, 15 people bought some stuff through your affiliate links from your emails. (5% conversion)
      - Suppose your average commission per sale was $30. It means you earned 15x30 = $450.

      It means you spent $200 and earned $450. Net profit was $250.

      Now calculate your earning per visitor. 1000 visitors earned you $250. It means earning per visitor is $0.25.

      Now scale it. Buy 4 millions of targeted visitors to your optin page/website and earn 1 million of revenue.

      This is simple I think :-)
      actually i did it but its not like that you invest $200 in advertising and sell $450 as i spent $1000 on Bing advertising and almost got nothing...do you know a person or company to spend $200 and sell $450 ?

      i thing sell own product is better but the question is to sell what ?
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      • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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        The best part of this thread is that you have people that have never made a dime giving up their 'sercret to success' formula, though my favorite is someone with five, count 'em - five $1M plus launches pushing cloud hosting in their signature links in an effort to make what - $10. So much for their credibility!

        This place will never cease to amaze me. lol

        Cheers. - Frank
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        • Profile picture of the author fxstay
          Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

          The best part of this thread is that you have people that have never made a dime giving up their 'sercret to success' formula, though my favorite is someone with five, count 'em - five $1M plus launches pushing cloud hosting in their signature links in an effort to make what - $10. So much for their credibility!

          This place will never cease to amaze me. lol

          Cheers. - Frank
          what is the solution ? ..i mean how can i get ideas to make million dollar ?..is there any other places on the internet to get real experiences ?
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          • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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            Originally Posted by fxstay View Post

            what is the solution ? ..i mean how can i get ideas to make million dollar ?..is there any other places on the internet to get real experiences ?
            Do you know the best way to make a million dollars? Come up with YOUR OWN IDEA! Something new! Do you have an original thought or are you confined to trying to capitalize on what others have already done - to death?

            Cheers. - Frank
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            • Profile picture of the author fxstay
              Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

              Do you know the best way to make a million dollars? Come up with YOUR OWN IDEA! Something new! Do you have an original thought or are you confined to trying to capitalize on what others have already done - to death?

              Cheers. - Frank
              you are right but currently i dont have any idea to be sure it makes money ..i prefer to sell my own product but i dont know which niche is good and sells better ?
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              • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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                Originally Posted by fxstay View Post

                you are right but currently i dont have any idea to be sure it makes money ..i prefer to sell my own product but i dont know which niche is good and sells better ?
                There is no answer to your question. Fifty people will give you fifty different answers and each one will tell you that they're a genius and everyone else is clueless and is giving you bad advice.

                Watch and learn. lol

                Cheers. - Frank
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          Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

          The best part of this thread is that you have people that have never made a dime giving up their 'sercret to success' formula, though my favorite is someone with five, count 'em - five $1M plus launches pushing cloud hosting in their signature links in an effort to make what - $10. So much for their credibility!

          This place will never cease to amaze me. lol

          Cheers. - Frank
          Nah. Signatures mean nothing. I use mine now and then to test low-end offers, promote client sites, or to offer something cheap as a trip wire offer. I never promote my main business here because it doesn't suit anyone here.

          Based on some of my signatures, Frank, you'd think I was struggling and maybe even living under a bridge. lol. But I'm definitely not.
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      Problem solved and already spending the millions he has made. Good job!

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  • Profile picture of the author flyingskill
    Well bro, I think "FOREX" will be the right option to hit the goal.

    Regards!
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    • Profile picture of the author fxstay
      Originally Posted by flyingskill View Post

      Well bro, I think "FOREX" will be the right option to hit the goal.

      Regards!
      i told currently i make money from forex trading but i want to reinvest the profit i get from forex trading in another niche , prefer selling product online
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
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        Originally Posted by fxstay View Post

        i told currently i make money from forex trading but i want to reinvest the profit i get from forex trading in another niche , prefer selling product online
        Why not just work on your trading? The wealthiest guy I know got 99% of his wealth from FX trading...

        If you're making money with FX and good at it - increase your lots and take bigger risks, the payout can be HUGE if you DO know what you're doing.

        I've done 300% in 15 minutes before - while most "Pro" fx traders claim 3-5% a month is amazing?
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    Find out what people want and give it to them... so simple, yet so effective !

    Master that and $1 million is not the question... it's how many millions ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Azlan.MY
    Originally Posted by fxstay View Post

    What are trusty and tested ways to make $1 million Online ?

    suggest an online business except forex trading as currently i am making money from it online and want to try other business.

    my major question is how much should i invest and how much time i need to make 1 million dollar ?

    i prefer to sell online product but every tested business plan you heard works is ok, so share your suggestions here.
    You already made money with forex. Why not keep at it. Just like aff marketing or product creation, you can also make $1 million with forex. Even better, forex is a more sustainable business model, unlike SEO. In fact, I am into affiliate marketing for 8 years already but now I am switching to forex because my income from aff+ SEO starts to decline after several Google updates.
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  • Profile picture of the author zeblackhat
    I like the idea of making a Million dollars and I think it can be done. Let say for example if you collected $1 from one million people that is $1 Million. Now, let us say you are selling a product or service for $20 and you collect $20 from one million persons, that is $20 Million. With the internet anything is possible, therefore if one have a good marketing strategy, it could be done. The only problem is what product or service. Maybe if you own about 15 websites that focus on marketing to 15 different niches, then it is possible it can be done. However, this is going to be work but there cannot be success without work.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by zeblackhat View Post

      I like the idea of making a Million dollars and I think it can be done. Let say for example if you collected $1 from one million people that is $1 Million. Now, let us say you are selling a product or service for $20 and you collect $20 from one million persons, that is $20 Million. With the internet anything is possible, therefore if one have a good marketing strategy, it could be done. The only problem is what product or service. Maybe if you own about 15 websites that focus on marketing to 15 different niches, then it is possible it can be done.
      Now all I need is some popcorn and soda as this is better entertainment than the Sci-Fi movie I saw today at the Theater with my family
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    • Profile picture of the author Tyler Pratt
      Originally Posted by zeblackhat View Post

      I like the idea of making a Million dollars and I think it can be done. Let say for example if you collected $1 from one million people that is $1 Million. Now, let us say you are selling a product or service for $20 and you collect $20 from one million persons, that is $20 Million. With the internet anything is possible, therefore if one have a good marketing strategy, it could be done. The only problem is what product or service. Maybe if you own about 15 websites that focus on marketing to 15 different niches, then it is possible it can be done. However, this is going to be work but there cannot be success without work.

      Well I knew this day was coming.

      The secret is out.
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    This forum is daily entertainment.
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      Originally Posted by Tyler Hall View Post

      This forum is daily entertainment.
      Personally, I have never found desperation and tragically flawed logic the least bit entertaining. Reading most of these posts leaves me wanting to crawl back into bed, pull the covers over my head and never come out.

      It's beyond mind-boggling.

      Cheers. - Frank
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        Originally Posted by talfighel View Post

        Most people make their first MILLION online with affiliate programs.

        These people don't focus on one time commissions that banks them $20-$50 per sale.

        They only work with high ticket commission programs that banks them anywhere between $500-$3,000 commissions.
        You say that like it's a given? Do you actually know what youre talking about?
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          If the OP indeed makes money with Forex - I think we're in the wrong biz....
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          Originally Posted by salegurus View Post


          You say that like it's a given? Do you actually know what youre talking about?
          He's just been brainwashed by the latest affiliate program.
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  • Profile picture of the author J50
    I see you're in the Forex niche no?

    Why don't you create a lead generation page, that collects information such as name, address, email, phone etc.

    Do your own internal marketing and get your offer on reputable affiliate networks. Once the leads come in phone them up and have yourself or your team try and convert them for $1,000 training course.

    If you can generate high quality leads and close them well you should be able to close 5-10% of them.

    3 sales a day 365 days a year is $1MM+ in turnover.
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    Most people make their first MILLION online with affiliate programs.

    These people don't focus on one time commissions that banks them $20-$50 per sale.

    They only work with high ticket commission programs that banks them anywhere between $500-$3,000 commissions.
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    • Profile picture of the author fxstay
      Originally Posted by talfighel View Post

      Most people make their first MILLION online with affiliate programs.

      These people don't focus on one time commissions that banks them $20-$50 per sale.

      They only work with high ticket commission programs that banks them anywhere between $500-$3,000 commissions.
      would you clarify more ? ..what kind of affiliate product you mean ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
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      Originally Posted by talfighel View Post

      Most people make their first MILLION online with affiliate programs.

      These people don't focus on one time commissions that banks them $20-$50 per sale.

      They only work with high ticket commission programs that banks them anywhere between $500-$3,000 commissions.
      Really? That's it? (Sigh)
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    Originally Posted by fxstay View Post

    What are trusty and tested ways to make $1 million Online ?

    suggest an online business except forex trading as currently i am making money from it online and want to try other business.

    my major question is how much should i invest and how much time i need to make 1 million dollar ?

    i prefer to sell online product but every tested business plan you heard works is ok, so share your suggestions here.
    If you're already making money with Forex Trading and have the knowledge for it, just stick with that and your one million will roll in. There's no need to learn a whole new system again.
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    Originally Posted by fxstay View Post

    What are trusty and tested ways to make $1 million Online ?
    suggest an online business except forex trading as currently i am making money from it online and want to try other business.
    my major question is how much should i invest and how much time i need to make 1 million dollar ?
    i prefer to sell online product but every tested business plan you heard works is ok, so share your suggestions here.
    Never try to increase ROI on instant. If you want to do, you must accept the high risk business. I think you are new in this section, so you have to be patience & skilled. Forex is a high risk business, even you can lost your main investment, or, even you can make double of your investment within a short time. so you have to choose the way of your walking.
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by clockface View Post

      this place is a joke.......
      No - it's what they allow to go on here that is the joke. There are some very smart people, here - but they are slowly fading away from what is taking place.

      BTW - I was in no way inferring that I am one of the 'smart' people. If brains were dynamite, I couldn't blow my nose.

      Cheers. - Frank
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
        Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

        No - it's what they allow to go on here that is the joke. There are some very smart people, here - but they are slowly fading away from what is taking place.

        BTW - I was in no way inferring that I am one of the 'smart' people. If brains were dynamite, I couldn't blow my nose.

        Cheers. - Frank
        It's okay, Frank. We understand you weren't implying anything of the sort.

        The problem is the mass proliferation of inane and often almost identical threads, among other negatives: How Can I Invest 8 Billion Dollars? How Can I Make 50 Gazillion in 4 Days?

        And the solution is no easy matter.

        Due to the nature of the business - easy entry - and the "I can make money without spending money" prevailing mindset, culture clashes, people operating from countries who could care less about American and European law, immaturity, inexperience, and a thousand and one other elements, we have ourselves a melting pot that could almost describe the entire human race.

        Almost describe.

        Where it diverges from an almost all-encompassing global demographic is the one combined goal of the majority: to make money online. Which actually wouldn't be so bad, giving us that one shared trait and perhaps allowing us all to see the business in a similar light, but due to everything mentioned two paragraphs up (and not forgetting the thousand and one other things), you have this diverse collection of souls made up of a weighty contingent who are ill-informed about the business, could not care less about rules of etiquette and international law, and it all leads to one inevitable result: "the mass proliferation of inane and often almost identical threads, among other negatives."

        Moderation in this environment is a thankless, impossible task. Impossible if we're aiming for perfection. I've been involved in a couple of high-profile forum communities, and though never as a moderator, logic, experience, and intelligence tell me that perfection cannot be attained here, nor even approached. If perfect was an island, we'd be across the sea waving in it's general direction: "Hello, Perfection! What's the weather like over there?"

        What I'd do . . .

        I'd beef up moderation of the type of threads that irk those of us with IQs over 4.

        I'd clean the hell out of the War Room. You all know what I mean.

        I'd charge a hefty price tag for a mastermind forum - call it what you will - where serious discussion and real moneymaking can take place.

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          Originally Posted by Tom Addams View Post

          It's okay, Frank. We understand you weren't implying anything of the sort.
          You would never know it by the PM's I receive that start out with, "Dear Voice of Reason." :-)
          The problem is the mass proliferation of inane and often almost identical threads, among other negatives: How Can I Invest 8 Billion Dollars? How Can I Make 50 Gazillion in 4 Days?
          Actually, the bigger problem is when folks like you, that actually have honorable intentions (giving you the benefit of the doubt) respond to these posts. They should be untouched by anyone with an IQ over room temperature. When you post, you give the questions perceived relevancy and credence. You are making a bad situation, intolerable.
          And the solution is no easy matter.
          I don't agree.
          Due to the nature of the business - easy entry - and the "I can make money without spending money" prevailing mindset, culture clashes, people operating from countries who could care less about American and European law, immaturity, inexperience, and a thousand and one other elements, we have ourselves a melting pot that could almost describe the entire human race.
          Agreed. I refer to those as the 'unwashed masses.'
          Almost describe.

          Where it diverges from an almost all-encompassing global demographic is the one combined goal of the majority: to make money online. Which actually wouldn't be so bad, giving us that one shared trait and perhaps allowing us all to see the business in a similar light, but due to everything mentioned two paragraphs up (and not forgetting the thousand and one other things), you have this diverse collection of souls made up of a weighty contingent who are ill-informed about the business, could not care less about rules of etiquette and international law, and it all leads to one inevitable result: "the mass proliferation of inane and often almost identical threads, among other negatives."
          And why on earth would you try to do anything to help them? Since I can't fathom why you would waste your precious time trying to educate a dolt that no matter what you tell them will ignore your post and will profusely thank the poster that tells them to "just believe." I guess that you are simply put a much better person than I am. Personally, I have no time for fools, but I'm not a young man.

          Moderation in this environment is a thankless,
          Possibly
          impossible task.
          Not hardly.
          Impossible if we're aiming for perfection.
          A modicum of common-sense and some well thought out stickies answering the most commonly asked questions would go a long way toward eliminating the problem.
          I've been involved in a couple of high-profile forum communities, and though never as a moderator, logic, experience, and intelligence tell me that perfection cannot be attained here, nor even approached. If perfect was an island, we'd be across the sea waving in it's general direction: "Hello, Perfection! What's the weather like over there?"

          What I'd do . . .

          I'd beef up moderation of the type of threads that irk those of us with IQs over 4.

          I'd clean the hell out of the War Room. You all know what I mean.
          I rarely go there. I'm allergic to hype and pipe dreams.
          I'd charge a hefty price tag for a mastermind forum - call it what you will - where serious discussion and real moneymaking can take place.
          I have no problem with that, but before that I would charge a $25 sign-up fee for everyone. That would eliminate 95% of the losers that don't believe that they should have to spend a penny to become a millionaire in IM. There are people here that if you tried to charge $1, one single measly dollar, they would scream bloody murder. The only word they know is free. I loathe people of that ilk, and I don't mind saying it. Only losers expect a free ride. Oh, and they also want you to tell them everything that you have spent years learning, all your secrets, too - for free. If you don't, you're a bad person. You don't care enough about others to want to help them. Cut me a break. I would ban anyone that typed those words, instantly and for life.

          I'm soon to be permanently and officially retired. I don't really consider the type of work that I have done most of my life to be a part of IM. I guess that in reality, I have no right to complain about anything, but I have seen a lot of talented people desert this place and even though I may not have had much to learn from their posts, they were intelligent and helpful to others. They went down nicely with my morning Kona. I guess you can't really blame them for moving on.

          All this 'believe in yourself' crap is suffocating. Yes - of course one should believe in themselves, once they have acquired the requisite amount of skills and knowledge that warrant that belief. Believing in nothing other than believing, will generally net you absolutely nothing. Am I wrong about that? Am I missing something that has managed to elude me in almost 70 years of observant existence on this planet? lol I don't think so.

          It's not my forum, so I have no right to expect anything. I'm just shocked by what has happened here over the past few months. It is getting worse with each passing day and I sincerely doubt that it will ever get better, Those that have left will never return.

          If the powers that be wanted to make this place better, they could whip it into shape within 30 days. I know I could. My brand of benevolent fascism is quite effective at getting things running smoothly.

          None of it really matters. At the end of the day my income is not impacted in any way but what transpires, here. It is rough on my PTSD, though. :-)

          Cheers. - Frank
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          • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
            Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

            You would never know it by the PM's I receive that start out with, "Dear Voice of Reason." :-)
            Actually, the bigger problem is when folks like you, that actually have honorable intentions (giving you the benefit of the doubt) respond to these posts. They should be untouched by anyone with an IQ over room temperature. When you post, you give the questions perceived relevancy and credence. You are making a bad situation, intolerable.
            I don't agree.
            Agreed. I refer to those as the 'unwashed masses.'
            And why on earth would you try to do anything to help them? Since I can't fathom why you would waste your precious time trying to educate a dolt that no matter what you tell them will ignore your post and will profusely thank the poster that tells them to "just believe." I guess that you are simply put a much better person than I am. Personally, I have no time for fools, but I'm not a young man.

            Possibly
            Not hardly.
            A modicum of common-sense and some well thought out stickies answering the most commonly asked questions would go a long way toward eliminating the problem.
            I rarely go there. I'm allergic to hype and pipe dreams.
            I have no problem with that, but before that I would charge a $25 sign-up fee for everyone. That would eliminate 95% of the losers that don't believe that they should have to spend a penny to become a millionaire in IM. There are people here that if you tried to charge $1, one single measly dollar, they would scream bloody murder. The only word they know is free. I loathe people of that ilk, and I don't mind saying it. Only losers expect a free ride. Oh, and they also want you to tell them everything that you have spent years learning, all your secrets, too - for free. If you don't, you're a bad person. You don't care enough about others to want to help them. Cut me a break. I would ban anyone that typed those words, instantly and for life.

            I'm soon to be permanently and officially retired. I don't really consider the type of work that I have done most of my life to be a part of IM. I guess that in reality, I have no right to complain about anything, but I have seen a lot of talented people desert this place and even though I may not have had much to learn from their posts, they were intelligent and helpful to others. They went down nicely with my morning Kona. I guess you can't really blame them for moving on.

            All this 'believe in yourself' crap is suffocating. Yes - of course one should believe in themselves, once they have acquired the requisite amount of skills and knowledge that warrant that belief. Believing in nothing other than believing, will generally net you absolutely nothing. Am I wrong about that? Am I missing something that has managed to elude me in almost 70 years of observant existence on this planet? lol I don't think so.

            It's not my forum, so I have no right to expect anything. I'm just shocked by what has happened here over the past few months. It is getting worse with each passing day and I sincerely doubt that it will ever get better, Those that have left will never return.

            If the powers that be wanted to make this place better, they could whip it into shape within 30 days. I know I could. My brand of benevolent fascism is quite effective at getting things running smoothly.

            None of it really matters. At the end of the day my income is not impacted in any way but what transpires, here. It is rough on my PTSD, though. :-)

            Cheers. - Frank
            Tell you what, Frank . . .

            It'll be a cold day in Hell when you and I agree on everything, but I can't help but like you. You and I got off on the wrong foot initially, and yet since then, I've watched your remarks on WF and found them usually to be the most valuable within each thread. I don't agree on every point above - and it's been a long day of Bass fishing, off and on, so I'm too whacked to elaborate - but I will say that you and I are pretty much on the same page.

            Where we both definitely agree is this: a problem exists and, if we don't want further quality members leaving, and thereby eroding the worth of WF, something should be done about it. We both have our suggestions, and I think both have merit. Like me, you've probably seen many a giant community tumble off the mountain. It really can happen. It may happen to WF; it may not. But what's certain is that worth will continue to dwindle if we continue on our present course. I think there's a mixed metaphor there - too beat to investigate - but you get my drift.

            Anyway - thumbs up to many of your comments. I'm off to crawl in the direction of food, beer, and hopefully not a chick flick.

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            • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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              Originally Posted by Tom Addams View Post

              Tell you what, Frank . . .

              It'll be a cold day in Hell when you and I agree on everything,
              The day that you and I agree on everything is the day that you should check into the rubber room.
              but I can't help but like you.
              I'm sure my mom will appreciate the company. It's a lonely existence.
              You and I got off on the wrong foot initially,
              You'll have to accept responsibility for that by your lonesome. I'm generally agnostic on that type of thing. I wasn't starting a journey.
              and yet since then, I've watched your remarks on WF and found them usually to be the most valuable within each thread.
              It's a gift. I feel obligated to share it with the proletariat.
              I don't agree on every point above
              Feel free to reread them as many times as necessary until you come around.
              - and it's been a long day of Bass fishing, off and on, so I'm too whacked to elaborate - but I will say that you and I are pretty much on the same page.
              I can live with that.
              Where we both definitely agree is this: a problem exists and, if we don't want further quality members leaving, and thereby eroding the worth of WF, something should be done about it. We both have our suggestions, and I think both have merit. Like me, you've probably seen many a giant community tumble off the mountain. It really can happen. It may happen to WF; it may not. But what's certain is that worth will continue to dwindle if we continue on our present course. I think there's a mixed metaphor there - too beat to investigate - but you get my drift.
              I do - and uncharacteristically, I have no argument with anything stated.
              Anyway - thumbs up to many of your comments. I'm off to crawl in the direction of food, beer, and hopefully not a chick flick.

              Tom
              Thank you, sir!

              Cheers. - Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author David Beroff
    How to reach one million dollars?

    Start with two million dollars.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lance K
      Ignoring most of the theory being dispensed on this thread, I agree with Frank.

      Think for yourself. There are numerous ways to make a million dollars both online and offline. However, most people never will.

      Here's an example of original thinking that actually hit the $1 million mark. ----> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mi...ollar_Homepage
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  • Profile picture of the author affiliatewealth
    Prepare your mind to make a million dollars

    To make a million dollars online, you must see yourself actually making it. You must believe it is achievable. Ultimately, you must prepare your mind to face the challenges associated with your dream of making a million dollars fast. You must also be prepared for disappointments and set backs along the way.

    Preparing your mind also entails abandoning the employee mindset of working for a paycheck. It's all about transiting or changing your mode of thinking; it's all about thinking like an entrepreneur. In the process of preparing your mind to make a million dollars fast, you must also develop the necessary entrepreneurial skills needed.

    "To be successful, you must act big, think big and talk big.

    One of such skills is that you must develop a tough skin towards rejection and criticism. You must not give up on your dream just because somebody said it's impossible.

    Find a way to make $1 per day then scale up to $100 per day then scale up to $200 per day and so on and so on before long you will be on your way to $1m Dollars
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Here's the problem - and the reason posting "methods" from self help books and MMO products won't help here...

      Half of the OP's posts in this threads are :

      i prefer to sell online product but....
      prefer to focus on number 1 but...
      actually i did it but ...
      sell own product is better but...
      you are right but....
      i prefer to sell my own product but...
      i told currently i make money from forex trading but...
      What comes after the but? A rationale for why it "won't work", "too hard" etc. It's a common theme in threads like this.

      If you ignore the "buts" in the posts - what is left are repetitive, broad, general questions. No one can tell the OP "what product sells best" or what "kind of product" he should create or what niche he should look at.

      This is not internet marketing - it's internet dreaming.
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      • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        This is not internet marketing - it's internet dreaming.
        Unfortunately, the 'Thanks' button cannot be used twenty times by one person for one post.

        Cheers. - Frank
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by affiliatewealth View Post

      Prepare your mind to make a million dollars

      To make a million dollars online, you must see yourself actually making it. You must believe it is achievable. Ultimately, you must prepare your mind to face the challenges associated with your dream of making a million dollars fast. You must also be prepared for disappointments and set backs along the way.

      Preparing your mind also entails abandoning the employee mindset of working for a paycheck. It's all about transiting or changing your mode of thinking; it's all about thinking like an entrepreneur. In the process of preparing your mind to make a million dollars fast, you must also develop the necessary entrepreneurial skills needed.

      "To be successful, you must act big, think big and talk big.

      One of such skills is that you must develop a tough skin towards rejection and criticism. You must not give up on your dream just because somebody said it's impossible.

      Find a way to make $1 per day then scale up to $100 per day then scale up to $200 per day and so on and so on before long you will be on your way to $1m Dollars
      It's posts like this that have totally ruined this place. Not one iota of relevant, factual, wealth building information. Absolutely nothing but mindless crap. An endless stream of platitudes, drivel, pie-in-the-sky bromides, delusional fantasy, and pure, unadulterated pablum.

      This is my absolute last post of this fashion, to this type on inanity and insanity. I have to go stick my head out the window and scream at the top of my lungs. PLEEEEEEEEEASE, SHOOT ME!!!

      Cheers. - Frank

      P.S. I sincerely hope that your 'tough skin against criticism' serves you well. lol
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      • Profile picture of the author salegurus
        Be careful Frank you are contributing far too much logic,intelligence,common sense, wisdom to this forum.... If you don't stop things may change (Hardly but at least there is hope)...


        Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

        You would never know it by the PM's I receive that start out with, "Dear Voice of Reason." :-)
        Actually, the bigger problem is when folks like you, that actually have honorable intentions (giving you the benefit of the doubt) respond to these posts. They should be untouched by anyone with an IQ over room temperature. When you post, you give the questions perceived relevancy and credence. You are making a bad situation, intolerable.

        Agreed. I refer to those as the 'unwashed masses.'
        And why on earth would you try to do anything to help them? Since I can't fathom why you would waste your precious time trying to educate a dolt that no matter what you tell them will ignore your post and will profusely thank the poster that tells them to "just believe." I guess that you are simply put a much better person than I am. Personally, I have no time for fools, but I'm not a young man.

        A modicum of common-sense and some well thought out stickies answering the most commonly asked questions would go a long way toward eliminating the problem.

        I have no problem with that, but before that I would charge a $25 sign-up fee for everyone. That would eliminate 95% of the losers that don't believe that they should have to spend a penny to become a millionaire in IM. There are people here that if you tried to charge $1, one single measly dollar, they would scream bloody murder.

        The only word they know is free. I loathe people of that ilk, and I don't mind saying it. Only losers expect a free ride. Oh, and they also want you to tell them everything that you have spent years learning, all your secrets, too - for free. If you don't, you're a bad person. You don't care enough about others to want to help them. Cut me a break. I would ban anyone that typed those words, instantly and for life.

        I'm soon to be permanently and officially retired. I don't really consider the type of work that I have done most of my life to be a part of IM. I guess that in reality, I have no right to complain about anything, but I have seen a lot of talented people desert this place and even though I may not have had much to learn from their posts, they were intelligent and helpful to others. They went down nicely with my morning Kona. I guess you can't really blame them for moving on.

        All this 'believe in yourself' crap is suffocating. Yes - of course one should believe in themselves, once they have acquired the requisite amount of skills and knowledge that warrant that belief. Believing in nothing other than believing, will generally net you absolutely nothing. Am I wrong about that? Am I missing something that has managed to elude me in almost 70 years of observant existence on this planet? lol I don't think so.

        It's not my forum, so I have no right to expect anything. I'm just shocked by what has happened here over the past few months. It is getting worse with each passing day and I sincerely doubt that it will ever get better, Those that have left will never return.

        If the powers that be wanted to make this place better, they could whip it into shape within 30 days. I know I could. My brand of benevolent fascism is quite effective at getting things running smoothly.

        None of it really matters. At the end of the day my income is not impacted in any way but what transpires, here. It is rough on my PTSD, though. :-)

        Cheers. - Frank
        Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

        It's posts like this that have totally ruined this place. Not one iota of relevant, factual, wealth building information. Absolutely nothing but mindless crap. An endless stream of platitudes, drivel, pie-in-the-sky bromides, delusional fantasy, and pure, unadulterated pablum.

        This is my absolute last post of this fashion, to this type on inanity and insanity. I have to go stick my head out the window and scream at the top of my lungs. PLEEEEEEEEEASE, SHOOT ME!!!

        Cheers. - Frank

        P.S. I sincerely hope that your 'tough skin against criticism' serves you well. lol
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeff Lenney
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          Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

          Be careful Frank you are contributing far too much logic,intelligence,common sense, wisdom to this forum.... If you don't stop things may change (Hardly but at least there is hope)...
          Don't worry, I'm sure another onslaught of posts will reverse that VERY soon...
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        • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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          Originally Posted by salegurus View Post

          Be careful Frank you are contributing far too much logic,intelligence,common sense, wisdom to this forum.... If you don't stop things may change (Hardly but at least there is hope)...
          Well, that's the first time that I have been accused of that! lol

          Cheers. - Frank
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
      Originally Posted by affiliatewealth View Post

      To make a million dollars online, you must see yourself actually making it. You must believe it is achievable. Ultimately, you must prepare your mind to face the challenges associated with your dream of making a million dollars fast. You must also be prepared for disappointments and set backs along the way.


      I don't see anything wrong with that advice. (It's true.)
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      • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

        I don't see anything wrong with that advice.
        Why am I not surprised? lol

        Cheers. - Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author RahimaMal
    Make a million dollars online?

    I haven't yet. So I can't say.

    BUT

    From what I've seen, coaching programs seem to generate tons of money. Providing you give tremendous value in your training...

    Write this on 'You will not become a millionaire overnight' on a post it note and place it on your fridge. ))
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    • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
      Originally Posted by RahimaMal View Post

      Make a million dollars online?

      I haven't yet. So I can't say.
      Most logical and thought out response in this thread so far.
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by RahimaMal View Post

      Make a million dollars online?

      I haven't yet. So I can't say.
      Neither has anyone else. That doesn't do anything to stop them from telling the OP how to go about it. Why should it stop you?

      Cheers. - Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author zdebx
    Don't remember who said it, but it goes like this:

    "Here's how you can make a million dollars. Ok, so first you'll need a million dollars, then...."
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  • Profile picture of the author DIABL0
    For those that are bother by threads like this one, why not just ignore them?
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by DIABL0 View Post

      For those that are bother by threads like this one, why not just ignore them?
      I tried that with an endless stream of dogs that insisted on crapping on my front lawn everyday. Guess how that turned out. :-)

      Cheers. - Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author zdebx
    Frank you need to relax a bit and stop taking every reply on WF too seriously, because when you try to understand the logic and thinking of some people who post their "advice" here, you head might explode...

    80/20 rule applies everywhere, especially when it comes to "forum experts", so don't worry, be happy
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by zdebx View Post

      Frank you need to relax a bit and stop taking every reply on WF too seriously,
      Trust me - I don't take any of it seriously. It's too comical for that.
      because when you try to understand the logic and thinking of some people who post their "advice" here, you head might explode...
      You should see my walls. I have to call in a crime scene clean-up crew.
      80/20 rule applies everywhere, especially when it comes to "forum experts", so don't worry, be happy
      I really need to consider whether or not I should go back to smoking pot. It may be the only solution. :-(

      Cheers. - Frank
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        a problem exists and, if we don't want further quality members leaving,
        I'm curious about something - does anyone know?

        We know WF members were added to FL list....were FL members added to WF member list as well? That might account for the low level questions from people with "join dates" of a couple years or so ago.

        There's definitely a problem but we can't solve it. Members are coming here from a different pool than in years past - or maybe there are just more coming that route. The numbers don't lie - and they are less than 1/2 the participation/visitation on the WF than they were one year ago.

        Nothing kills a forum as quickly as pure boredom. The repetitive and simplistic questions - AND answers - are doing just that. Maybe that's the plan - don't know.

        Jeff - The onslaught has begun...or is that (considering the answers there) has continued....
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        • Profile picture of the author salegurus
          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post


          We know WF members were added to FL list....were FL members added to WF member list as well? That might account for the low level questions from people with "join dates" of a couple years or so ago.
          I don't have the answer Kay but i've wondered the same thing myself... People who joined 5 years ago asking questions like "What is a Niche"?

          Not only does that tell me the person asking does not have the capacity to think for themselves but also what have you been doing for 5 years if you don't know something that's really Kindergarten level in IM...
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        • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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          Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

          Nothing kills a forum as quickly as pure boredom. The repetitive and simplistic questions - AND answers - are doing just that. Maybe that's the plan - don't know.
          I can't imagine the impetus for such a plan. I'm drawing a blank on what could be gained.

          Cheers. - Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author hellonow
    I would say it comes down to hard work, persistence, adaptability, time and luck. If you have a little bit of these characteristics you should have the foundation to make $1 million online. I always like to use Google as an example. Google started as a search engine, now it has just about every product/service out there and continues to adapt and add new business lines. Adapting to market demand is huge imo.
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by hellonow View Post

      I would say it comes down to hard work, persistence, adaptability, time and luck. If you have a little bit of these characteristics you should have the foundation to make $1 million online. I always like to use Google as an example. Google started as a search engine, now it has just about every product/service out there and continues to adapt and add new business lines. Adapting to market demand is huge imo.
      Right. And just how many Googles are going to be created in our lifetime, especially by the frequenters of this forum, posting these questions?

      I hate to be harsh, but this post is just as bad as many of the others, although it sounds reasonable enough on the first read through. :-)

      The folks at Google started with millions from day one. They had investors for their project. That's the seed for creating billions. Using them as an example for anything just shows that you don't have a factual basis for your concept of how to create a million, online.

      The only thing missing in your equation was the 'believe in yourself' quotient.

      Cheers. - Frank
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      • Profile picture of the author hellonow
        Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

        Right. And just how many Googles are going to be created in our lifetime, especially by the frequenters of this forum, posting these questions?

        I hate to be harsh, but this post is just as bad as many of the others, although it sounds reasonable enough on the first read through. :-)

        The folks at Google started with millions from day one. They had investors for their project. That's the seed for creating billions. Using them as an example for anything just shows that you don't have a factual basis for your concept of how to create a million, online.

        The only thing missing in your equation was the 'believe in yourself' quotient.

        Cheers. - Frank
        Fair points Frank. I was not using Google as an example for us to all go out and create, I was using it as an example of a highly successful company that never envisioned itself where it is today when it started out. The key here is the ability to adapt. Try things and tweak things. If they don't work change them and adapt to what customers and visitors want.
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        • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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          Originally Posted by hellonow View Post

          I was using it as an example of a highly successful company that never envisioned itself where it is today when it started out.
          I would never agree with that statement and not just for the sake of being argumentative.

          I have seen these guys interviewed more than once. They knew what they wanted to create before they wrote a line of code and they do not consider themselves to be even remotely close to their original concept of world domination. In their minds, they're just getting warmed-up and live by the credo, "You ain't seen nuthin', yet!" :-)

          Cheers. - Frank
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          • Profile picture of the author hellonow
            Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

            I would never agree with that statement and not just for the sake of being argumentative.

            I have seen these guys interviewed more than once. They knew what they wanted to create before they wrote a line of code and they do not consider themselves to be even remotely close to their original concept of world domination. In their minds, they're just getting warmed-up and live by the credo, "You ain't seen nuthin', yet!" :-)

            Cheers. - Frank
            Frank you really think when Google started out they knew ahead of time they were going to create:
            Google +
            Gmail
            Groups
            Hangouts
            Voice
            Docs
            Forms
            Sheets
            Cloud
            Shopping
            Finance
            Chrome
            The list goes on and on and on. Come on Frank!
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            • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
              I'm not Frank, but Wikipedia agrees with him, They say "Its mission statement from the outset was "to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google

              Note that isn't just a little Internet search engine talk - they were talking about all the world's information. Every one of the things you've listed is a form of information or a tool to handle information.

              Mark


              Originally Posted by hellonow View Post

              Frank you really think when Google started out they knew ahead of time they were going to create:
              Google +
              Gmail
              Groups
              Hangouts
              Voice
              Docs
              Forms
              Sheets
              Cloud
              Shopping
              Finance
              Chrome
              The list goes on and on and on. Come on Frank!
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              • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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                Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

                I'm not Frank, but Wikipedia agrees with him, They say "Its mission statement from the outset was "to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google

                Note that isn't just a little Internet search engine talk - they were talking about all the world's information. Every one of the things you've listed is a form of information or a tool to handle information.

                Mark
                Thank you, Mark. I really appreciate that.

                Cheers. - Frank
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              • Profile picture of the author najo10
                Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

                I'm not Frank, but Wikipedia agrees with him, They say "Its mission statement from the outset was "to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google

                Note that isn't just a little Internet search engine talk - they were talking about all the world's information. Every one of the things you've listed is a form of information or a tool to handle information.

                Mark
                The real irony is Google doesn't actually charge for those services. They initially made the majority of their money through ad revenue. Now they have Google Play and get commissions off sales there. But Google's real business model is organize information, provide access to it through various channels (i.e search results and android OS) and then monetize it through 3rd parties that benefit from the end user Google has attracted into their free eco-system.
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            • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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              Originally Posted by hellonow View Post

              Frank you really think when Google started out they knew ahead of time they were going to create:
              Google +
              Gmail
              Groups
              Hangouts
              Voice
              Docs
              Forms
              Sheets
              Cloud
              Shopping
              Finance
              Chrome
              Not by name, but certainly by concept. Apparently, you have never seen the interviews or read their mission statement.
              The list goes on and on and on.
              And contains many things that you are not yet aware of. Do you think they are done?
              Come on Frank!
              We are we going? Have you already come to the realization that you would be best served by following my lead, from this day forward??? lol

              Cheers. - Frank
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
            Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

            I would never agree with that statement and not just for the sake of being argumentative.

            I have seen these guys interviewed more than once. They knew what they wanted to create before they wrote a line of code and they do not consider themselves to be even remotely close to their original concept of world domination. In their minds, they're just getting warmed-up and live by the credo, "You ain't seen nuthin', yet!" :-)

            Cheers. - Frank
            Agreed. Perhaps not the finite details, but certainly the idea, the planning, etc.

            Right now I am working on a project (have been for about a year). I am the only investor. From the beginning, I have had an overall concept of what I want to build. Not only for right now, but for a year, five and perhaps further down the road.

            I am on Phase 3 programming - intended to launch after phase 2, but after additional planning I decided a few important items were needed.

            After it launches, it will continue to evolve within the basic concepts I developed several years ago...

            And no - it won't be a Google size business If it becomes 1/10th the size, I would be exceedingly happy

            As for this thread, I have been a member here since 2000 (before this version of the forum) and I can tell you that very little has changed when it comes to these types of questions and answers. Nothing new here at all. Oh, the names of the products, some of the technology and what not, but you know what I mean.

            Over the years, the well known successes who used to contribute ACTUAL provable value have gone away, thanks to the troll-like members who would come out of the woodwork to call them all scammers, etc. So even if you had the golden ticket to give to the OP - and you even had facts to back it up - you'd be torn down too.

            Goes with the territory. Been there and done that.
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            • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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              Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

              If it becomes 1/10th the size, I would be exceedingly happy.
              How about 1/10,000th? :-)

              Cheers. - Frank
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              • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
                Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

                How about 1/10,000th? :-)

                Cheers. - Frank
                I suck at math - would that make me rich?

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                • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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                  Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

                  I suck at math - would that make me rich?

                  Yes - quite rich. That reminds me of a job interview I went on once, many years ago. I'll preface this story by stipulating that math is my worse subject.

                  So, I'm being interviewed and things are going swimmingly. After 30 minutes or so the interviewer hits me with a question. It went like this;

                  So, Frank - let's say that I want to hire you and I think that you are so potentially important to the success of my company, that I want to hire you with a lifetime contract. You have to work for me until you retire at the age of 65. Now - here is how your remuneration will be calculated. I am going to pay you 1ยข on the day that you start work. I am then going to double that penny every day for 30 days and then I am done paying you until the day that you retire. When would you like to start work? I replied that there was no way that I would ever work for those wages.

                  I didn't get the job. :-)

                  Cheers. - Frank

                  P.S. I would have been paid almost $11,000,000 by the end of the first month and I would have averaged over $246,000 per year over the life of the arrangement, assuming that I was employed for 40 years before retiring.
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                • Profile picture of the author Cali16
                  Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

                  I suck at math - would that make me rich?

                  Well, let's see. According to a recent article in the International Business Times, Google's heading towards the $1 trillion mark by 2020 and possibly before. So, yes, Mike, you'd be quite wealthy. Like pushing $100 MILLION wealthy.

                  http://www.ibtimes.com/google-inc-ra...uation-1704135
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                  • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
                    Originally Posted by Cali16 View Post

                    Well, let's see. According to a recent article in the International Business Times, Google's heading towards the $1 trillion mark by 2020 and possibly before. So, yes, Mike, you'd be quite wealthy. Like pushing $100 MILLION wealthy.

                    Google Inc. Races Apple To $1 Trillion Valuation

                    Well, then here's hoping for that 1/10,000th!
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            • Profile picture of the author kilgore
              Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

              Right now I am working on a project (have been for about a year). I am the only investor. From the beginning, I have had an overall concept of what I want to build. Not only for right now, but for a year, five and perhaps further down the road.

              I am on Phase 3 programming - intended to launch after phase 2, but after additional planning I decided a few important items were needed.
              Just a quick bit of unsolicited advice: Whatever you're developing, get it out there ASAP. Once it hits market you'll almost certainly find that all your assumptions about your product, your market, and your customers need to be re-evaluated anyway. This isn't a knock on you or what you're developing -- it's just the way things work.

              I highly recommend you do an hour's worth of research on what many in the startup community call the Minimum Viable Product or the Minimum Viable Feature Set. Steve Blank has an excellent article on it here: Perfection By Subtraction – The Minimum Feature Set | Steve Blank

              I once spent about a year planning and writing code for what my team thought would be a great website. But we always came up with more and more and more features and eventually just ran out of steam. Contrast this with my current venture where we spent about two months from conceptualization until launch. Sure the site wasn't perfect, but it was good enough. And more importantly we had real customers and real data on what features we really needed to add and what features weren't actually as important as we thought they were.

              I'm not saying if you do it your way, you'll fail. But I do think it's a much tougher way to go.

              Good luck!!!
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              • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
                Originally Posted by kilgore View Post

                Just a quick bit of unsolicited advice: Whatever you're developing, get it out there ASAP. Once it hits market you'll almost certainly find that all your assumptions about your product, your market, and your customers need to be re-evaluated anyway. This isn't a knock on you or what you're developing -- it's just the way things work.

                I highly recommend you do an hour's worth of research on what many in the startup community call the Minimum Viable Product or the Minimum Viable Feature Set. Steve Blank has an excellent article on it here: Perfection By Subtraction - The Minimum Feature Set | Steve Blank

                I once spent about a year planning and writing code for what my team thought would be a great website. But we always came up with more and more and more features and eventually just ran out of steam. Contrast this with my current venture where we spent about two months from conceptualization until launch. Sure the site wasn't perfect, but it was good enough. And more importantly we had real customers and real data on what features we really needed to add and what features weren't actually as important as we thought they were.

                I'm not saying if you do it your way, you'll fail. But I do think it's a much tougher way to go.

                Good luck!!!
                Thanks for that.

                You are right in many ways. I worked with a few well-known entrepreneurs over the years and they ALL did that. My "slowness" isn't due to wanting it to be perfect. It's the fact I am funding this out of pocket. So it's just a piece at a time. Phase 3 is it. Launch is imminent.

                There's also a lot of testing involved. It's not a simple script, etc.

                If the rest goes well it should launch early 4th quarter of this year.
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        • Profile picture of the author Cali16
          Originally Posted by hellonow View Post

          I was not using Google as an example for us to all go out and create, I was using it as an example of a highly successful company that never envisioned itself where it is today when it started out.
          Do you often make such inane assumptions?

          Most successful companies are successful because they did have a very clear vision of what they wanted to accomplish from the beginning.
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  • I've seen at least one person in this thread who could in fact "show tested ways" to make a million online.

    But even if it were to be explained in detail as to how it was done by providing a case study and step by step blueprints to those folks who ask these questions, I believe that more likely than not, it would not be acted on anyways.

    The reason as to why not, has made selling "how to make money" products to the same customer over and over again, a very profitable venture for many marketers.

    Off topic, on topic, is anyone in here going to attend this?

    And if so, do you have a million dollar (potential) launch product?
    Or will it just be more info overload, and notes to add to your collection?


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  • Profile picture of the author RyanJohnson1
    it can be done in the business opportunity market.

    with a strong product/service, but you will probably need a sales army of affiliates/resellers to help you along the way to see those numbers.

    Originally Posted by fxstay View Post

    What are trusty and tested ways to make $1 million Online ?

    suggest an online business except forex trading as currently i am making money from it online and want to try other business.

    my major question is how much should i invest and how much time i need to make 1 million dollar ?

    i prefer to sell online product but every tested business plan you heard works is ok, so share your suggestions here.
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    • Profile picture of the author ghost209
      Here, I can tell you what I did to make my first 7 figures online.

      The first 'serious' money I made online was through a membership site.
      And if I had to start over again from scratch, it would definitely be one of the things that I'd consider. (that or just running higher ticket autowebinars)

      First, I found a hot niche with a desperate market. Then I created a bunch of content for it and put that inside a membership site. Back then I used Amember, these days I would use OptimizePress or ClickFunnels

      In the beginning, my site was pretty empty. but each month I would add more content to it.

      For the membership site, I charged $47/mo.
      and To be honest, in the beginning I grinded HARD, just trying to make my first sale. And nobody bought lol
      Then I went to my friends and family.. and got a few of my friends to join (maybe they felt bad for me, I dunno)
      But other than a few friends.. the place was a GHOST TOWN lol

      But I stuck with it.. and after some grinding.. I was able to get my first 50 members.. then that snowballed into 200, then 500, and kept growing up to about 1500 members.

      The real 'secret' was to just focus on providing massive value. If you're charging $47/mo, then you want to deliver content that is worth WAY more than that. You've got to over deliver and create a strong bond and sense of community.. That was nobody wants to leave.

      Alot of 'guru's out there will tell you that anyone can just create a membership site and it will just magically make you recurring income.

      That's not true. If your content sucks.. nobody is going to stay longer than 2 days lol

      And you have to be involved.. Providing new and fresh content and interacting with people.. Otherwise they are going to leave..


      I really tried to over deliver with the site.. and really make it feel like a family.
      The average retention rate for my site was about 5-6 months which was really cool.

      Also, to recruit alot of new members, one of the things I did was use word of mouth.

      If people invited their friends then they'd get huge perks. I'd give them commissions, free months, badges on the forum, exclusive bonuses (access to locked content etc.)

      This worked extremely well and alot of people invited their friends.

      So I had a very active following of about 1500 people... That alone generated $70k/mo
      But, not only that.. I had a captive audience.. so any time I promoted affiliate offers, alot of those people bought it.. and I also hosted a few webinars where I sold higher priced products.. so it really didn't take long to hit the 7 figure mark.


      Is this what you should do to make money online? I have no freaking idea. Only you can be the judge of that.

      Does it work? Hell yeah
      Do you have to hustle and grind? Yes.

      But hopefully that shows you that $1mill online is very attainable, and if you're willing to put in work and take massive action there's absolutely no reason why you can't reach it
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