How do you internet marketers WORK EVERYDAY?

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Hello guys. I'll just explain my struggles first, then I'd like to ask you a question.

It's been quite a few months since I began studying this forum. I began taking action on different methods, and I ended up (for now) making my living doing freelancing jobs. I am currently in the progress of starting my own website. It doesn't matter what I am doing, it matters that nothing that will eventually work comes with easy work.

Here's my problem. I tried so many ways to organize my time.

I tried to work during the night and sleep during the day -> that didn't work out.
I tried to wake up at 5 AM, do some jogging, then start working all day -> didn't work.
I tried counting the EXACT TIME I work each day, and made myself a promise that I'd keep up with 8 full working hours each day. -> worked for two weeks, then I failed again.
I tried setting goals, accompanied by a time frame in which I need to have them completed. -> Didn't work out.

Don't get me wrong. I really like IM, and many times I do it for pleasure. I know I need to take it very seriously in order to succeed, just like any job... PS. Sometimes I feel like I am lazy, but then I wonder if it's just laziness or lack of organisation.

Considering the fact that INTERNET MARKETING is not just like an every day job, where you have bosses to motivate you, deadlines, and lots of rules, I have two questions for you guys:

1. How do you work? Are you focusing on the discipline or productivity?
2. Do you have any advice for a guy who's at the very beginning, and wishes to create empowering working habits?

Thank you very much in advance!
#everyday #internet #marketers #work
  • Profile picture of the author awledd
    I think this is the problem of many. I listened to one guru saying an acronym IGA which is income generating activities. He said we should focus on those. Yes if we avoid the u. Necessary and focus on IGA, we will be productive.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adrianhenry
    I had a very similar problem to this when I first started online. It wasnt easy. What made it slightly easier on me is that I am - and have been for a long time - fully aware that I am more productive at night than I am during the day.

    This, however, doesnt actually help when you are feeling lazy. What eventually worked for me was to find a playlist, in a specific genre of music that you dont mind, but you wouldn't listen to it for pleasure usually. Then when you sit down to work put this playlist on. Over time your brain will anchor working with this playlist (Pavlov's dogs style). Then anytime you don't feel like working or you feel extra lazy. Just put this playlist on and you will be stunned how quickly your state will shift to allow you to work.

    I personally think that electronic music with little to no lyrics to distract you is the best, that or classical music (Both have worked for me in the past but I find the tempo and urgency of electronic music really helps).

    Also another point to think about is where you actually work? Do you have a dedicated space where all you do is work? Or do you work in your bedroom or living room? These can also hinder your productivity as your brain associates these places with relaxing and not being productive. This is the opposite effect of the music.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brad Gosse
    I never measure hours only results. Sometimes my best months come from less, more effective work.

    Stop thinking about the time you spend. You can burn out hours. Think about your bursts of brilliance. That's where the money is.

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    • Profile picture of the author Jack107
      Originally Posted by Brad Gosse View Post

      I never measure hours only results. Sometimes my best months come from less, more effective work.

      Stop thinking about the time you spend. You can burn out hours. Think about your bursts of brilliance. That's where the money is.

      1 15 minute phone call could change your business forever. Make those calls
      This is really well said. Today I burnt a lot of hours and felt like I accomplished nothing. the day before I worked for no longer than 2 hours and brought in a couple of clients.

      I also agree with what was said above about music. I have my own playlist that I play when working, it really does work! I do the same thing for excercising!
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      • Profile picture of the author Devilfish168

        I love IM , without office politics etc

        social life well I can just meet up friends during weekend

        even online can chit chat with others

        BUT my parents keep urging me go back work full time....

        because my IM sales is not constant...

        one thing IM is like open a shop selling products....some days business good some days nope.( This is Nature which I feel ) I didn't ever see any Shops everyday got lots of customers go in buy stuffs . Some days yes Some days don't have even one customers buy despite many customers go in. So feel IM is the same thing.

        ok back to point ....in fact is true Everyday is work

        BUT weekend can take some time off if friends call you up ..
        ( Just treat it as a break )
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  • Profile picture of the author thereikid
    Very good questions. I am discpline when I work. I believe the best way is to have a task system were you rank them by priority and write them out the night before. I found that most of my mistakes came when I didnĀ“t follow this or I moved to fast. It is important to have balance so continue to focus on each area of your life ( family, health, etc) doing one thing at a time. You must have a deep purpose also for the times when you struggle, this must be should a burning desire that you focus more on this than your problems. Also be sure to take a break and watch something funny or listen to music and sing and dance, or take a quick nap. Seems small but makes a huge difference.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marcel Guzman
    My original focus was do anything to make money on the internet. Then as that came I found myself beginning to slack off a bit trying to get as much as I can for as little work as possible.

    Now over time I strive to be as productive as possible over a full 8-5 work day and that seems to be going very very well. At least for me
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      You really need to develop a System that is unique to you. And one that you can not only do but do with gusto and zeal

      I work during the day usually from 8:30 to 11 or 12.

      Then sometimes when my household is asleep I will put in some more hours at night. Doing research, educational things, and Planning.

      It takes time to develop but if you work at it you will find a schedule that
      fits your personality


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  • Profile picture of the author nazninshetu
    I work only day time of the targeted counties. Such as 10:00 AM to 10:00 PM of the targeted region. It is very effective I think. You can make a try, if you want. Thanks a lot.
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  • Profile picture of the author nmwf
    Originally Posted by Victor Donea View Post

    1. How do you work? Are you focusing on the discipline or productivity?
    2. Do you have any advice for a guy who's at the very beginning, and wishes to create empowering working habits?
    I'm sorry if my answer is entirely personal and may not apply to you or anyone else at all, but I'm truly addicted to what I do. Hell, I even "code" in my dreams! Doesn't matter what kind of code. It could be a web page, my software, a paypal form, or a friggin' social media graphic. I'm mentally stuck in this fantastic little world of virtual business.

    So addiction is my empowering working habit and has been so since 1995! Discipline and productivity are mere by-products of that addiction.
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    • Profile picture of the author TheGMa
      Originally Posted by nmwf View Post

      I'm sorry if my answer is entirely personal and may not apply to you or anyone else at all, but I'm truly addicted to what I do. Hell, I even "code" in my dreams! Doesn't matter what kind of code. It could be a web page, my software, a paypal form, or a friggin' social media graphic. I'm mentally stuck in this fantastic little world of virtual business.

      So addiction is my empowering working habit and has been so since 1995! Discipline and productivity are mere by-products of that addiction.
      Oh jeez - you too?

      My Been There Done That (BTDT) recommendation is to let up on yourself. Don't worry about how long you work or when you work because it doesn't matter as long as you do something every week, even if all you do is place some greeking on a proposed landing page.

      What I have learned to do is decide each morning what the tasks of the day will be. Doing it the night before doesn't work for me.

      Example:

      1. Work on newest provisional patent application for biz A;
      2. Run into town to take care of errands;
      3. Tend to the plants;
      4. Outline one article for biz B.

      Next day:

      1. Work on newest provisional patent application for biz A;
      2. Complete article outlined yesterday for biz B;
      3 Do research for biz C (I get paid for that one, so I have a time app to track the hours)

      That's it. The time spent on each is irrelevant, just so long as some time is spent on each (except for the errands, which I do as quickly as possible with no window shopping).

      I've been through the burn-out phase more than once because I tend to be a workaholic (gee, really?). Dividing my time up into more than one focus keeps the obsession from taking over and provides me with more productivity.

      AND instead of working 'til I do a faceplant on my keyboard, I stop around 5PM and watch a movie on Netflix or play a game, both of which I can pause to take care of dinner, pets, push-ups, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author winnermarketing
    Every night I write my "to do list".
    you can try with "wunderlist"
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  • Profile picture of the author Raiel Schwartz
    make sure that you hold yourself accountable to the work that you will like to see completed at the end of each day.

    For example, you say that you would like to launch your own website... Good, now break down that entire goal into easier, smaller, and more manageable tasks.

    For instance, after registering your domain name, and connecting it with your web host, perhaps your next step for you to make next is that you will need to determine the architecture (which means what kind of pages do you need on your actual website), as well as the design of your web site.

    Once you establish the kinds of pages that you are going to have featured on your website, such as a landing page, a opt in page, an upsell page, and perhaps a members area, then next you will have to ask yourself how long will you expect for you to set everything up?

    So what do you do now? Give yourself an estimated time frame to complete your immediate goal, let's say one week to set up your website, and to establish your first sales funnel.

    Now that you have that established, you break down your whole goal of setting up your first website, as well as your first sales funnel, into more easily approachable tasks, such as by saying for example that for days one and two of that week that you set aside for finishing your website, you work towards completing your opt in page.........

    Then for days two and three, you begin to work on an upsell, etc. Organization is really important, because if you can't see, or visualize yourself what work you actually need to get done, then nine times out of ten, you will not actually begin working on anything as well. Hopefully this information is helpful to you.

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  • Profile picture of the author Trey Morgan
    I don't focus on how many hours I work per day or week. I focus on daily tasks that will lead to weekly and monthly goals.


    So, everyday I wake-up I know exactly what I need to do in order to have a productive day. I go through the list and check things off as they're completed. Writing out a list of tasks makes you aware of what needs to be done, and if you don't get a large portion of your tasks done by the end of the day you feel guilty and it motivates you to work harder on the following day.
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    • Profile picture of the author freedumb
      Originally Posted by Trey Morgan View Post

      I don't focus on how many hours I work per day or week. I focus on daily tasks that will lead to weekly and monthly goals.


      So, everyday I wake-up I know exactly what I need to do in order to have a productive day. I go through the list and check things off as they're completed. Writing out a list of tasks makes you aware of what needs to be done, and if you don't get a large portion of your tasks done by the end of the day you feel guilty and it motivates you to work harder on the following day.
      Originally Posted by Brad Gosse View Post
      I never measure hours only results. Sometimes my best months come from less, more effective work.

      Stop thinking about the time you spend. You can burn out hours. Think about your bursts of brilliance. That's where the money is.

      1 15 minute phone call could change your business forever. Make those calls
      THIS.

      I had the same problem until I stopped being concerned with the time and scheduling and focused on what needed to be done (especially the most important things).

      Start with listing only one thing to complete each day and just focus on getting that done. It will build from there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Originally Posted by Victor Donea View Post

    1. How do you work? Are you focusing on the discipline or productivity?
    2. Do you have any advice for a guy who's at the very beginning, and wishes to create empowering working habits?
    Sometimes you have to take complex questions and scenarios, and turn them around so that they make sense to YOU - and only you.

    So for your first question.... i focus on the productivity.

    For your second question.... do paid advertising.

    I'm sure most of your time right now is spend on creating videos, writing content, article directory stuff, blogging, checking out other people's webpages, listening to marketing information, reading books, and getting nowhere.

    The less you do, the more you will make. 80/20 rule. Don't drive yourself nuts over the simple process of acquiring a customer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jackson Tan
    I think you like to clarify something first. Do you like IM or do you like what IM can potentially brings you? There's two totally very different motivation.

    Imho, I goes for discipline which in turn cultivates to become a habit such that I no longer need to be motivated to start working.. Also focus on few cycle of productivity. Working straight for 1hr.. rest awhile and another 1hr.. and so on and forth..

    Cheers!
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  • Profile picture of the author jasondinner
    Originally Posted by Victor Donea View Post

    I tried to work during the night and sleep during the day -> that didn't work out.
    I tried to wake up at 5 AM, do some jogging, then start working all day -> didn't work.
    I tried counting the EXACT TIME I work each day, and made myself a promise that I'd keep up with 8 full working hours each day. -> worked for two weeks, then I failed again.
    I tried setting goals, accompanied by a time frame in which I need to have them completed. -> Didn't work out.

    Don't get me wrong. I really like IM, and many times I do it for pleasure. I know I need to take it very seriously in order to succeed, just like any job... PS. Sometimes I feel like I am lazy, but then I wonder if it's just laziness or lack of organisation.

    Considering the fact that INTERNET MARKETING is not just like an every day job, where you have bosses to motivate you, deadlines, and lots of rules, I have two questions for you guys:

    1. How do you work? Are you focusing on the discipline or productivity?
    2. Do you have any advice for a guy who's at the very beginning, and wishes to create empowering working habits?

    Thank you very much in advance!
    Sounds like you just have a lot of growing up to do mentally.

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  • Profile picture of the author NeedBucksNow
    Just do it It takes some time for it to get going, but it will be worth it once you start to get some free Google traffic
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  • Profile picture of the author Victor Donea
    Oh, man. I wasn't home yesterday (unfortunately), so I couldn't reply...

    Thanks a lot for taking the time to reply on this thread... Some very good tips here which I will definitely take into consideration!
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  • Profile picture of the author alweeks
    Hi there

    I understand your problem only too well and have given it lots of thought over the years. At the start of your IM career, regardless of the niche you Are working in, I believe that there are two pieces of advice that you should heed and follow.

    I think that we all need a MENTOR and we all need a PLAN. A Mentor will be able to show you how to do things, help and encourage you when things get tough and keep you inspired by their own past and present success. They will show you that their success was achieved by following a PLAN. That plan structured their business so that they knew every step they had to take before they took it.

    In my past life as a lawyer, I cam across many successful people. Those that never had a plan would more often that not FAIL. They would follow all the latest hype and fad and get nowhere fast. But the winners started off on the right foot, following each step of their plan for success. Failure was not an option because their mindset had banished that word from their brains. They took action and followed their plans.

    Their plans were always made up of three elements

    1. Business Plan
    2.Entrepreneurial Plan
    3. Personal Plan

    So you are going to need, my friend

    a. A yearly plan
    b. A 90 day plan
    c. A monthly plan
    d. A weekly plan and
    e. A daily plan

    Work in highly focused 60 minute bursts free of all distractions. Then take a break before returning for another sustained burst of 60 minutes. Time yourself and see how your productivity will increase. Do this until you have put together a daily plan that you can use for every day. Use " To do lists " writing them as an integral part of your daily routine. Watch how your life will come together.

    I hope this helps you. There's so much more that I could say. I wish you all the success your efforts will merit.
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  • Profile picture of the author Turquoise Badger
    Originally Posted by Victor Donea View Post

    Considering the fact that INTERNET MARKETING is not just like an every day job, where you have bosses to motivate you, deadlines, and lots of rules...
    That's your problem! You have to treat it like something MORE than a daytime job and give the required discipline and hard work.

    Don't work in your bunny shoes and pink pajamas. Dress up for the job (don't need a suit though) and have a seperate working space (detached from your leisure space) if possible and treat it like a day time job. This will solve your problems.
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  • If you cannot grow the discipline and motivation to work on YOUR OWN BUSINESS, then perhaps you're just not an entrepreneur at heart. Nobody can help you there. Perhaps you'd do better with a boss and a scheduled timetable.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vincentbre
    Oh! I like this discussion! Okay, for me, I like to start my day spending an hour after waking up just sitting out in the patio, drinking coffee and feeling the sun warm my face.
    Once I'm fully awake, I turn on my computer and organize my tasks for the day. I then spend another hour preparing breakfast and lunch. Once I've eaten, I just go through the tasks exactly as I organized them, taking a 15-minute break every two hours.
    So far, this has worked wonderfully for me, but that's me. It might not be the same for you. I've also been at this a long time, so I have experience on my side.
    Hope this helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author lerxtjr
    These are all great comments. Some illustrious person might copy and paste them all and you'll see a warrior forum offer for a new ebook soon maybe.

    One thing to add to the party is that it will help if you can figure out how to create your own "urgency." What is it that makes you work fast and focused and how can you set deadlines to accomplish by a certain date and time?

    Something as simple as awarding yourself with a movie night if you get a project completed in half the time by a certain date can work. Or a trip to your fav restaurant. Or, (chastise me world for saying this) work a deal out with your significant other that you get to be the grand recipient of some pleasurable favors if certain deadlines you set are met.

    I only say those because YOU have to figure out what motivates YOU to get things completed quickly and on scheduled and then treat taking action like part of a game. Games are fun after all, and the whole web marketing process is fun when you treat it like the game it is.
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  • Profile picture of the author 01richa90
    Hi,

    Internet marketing requires excellent thought process, now a days competition is very high. To survive in the global market you need to keep your eyes and years open. We have to be updated with the latest market trends regularly.
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  • Profile picture of the author martinmarketing
    .. is difficult especially at first not seen many results ... this work takes a lot of perseverance and passion, you have to have a goal set, my to make money and succeed in this world, this to me by many stimuli. ... however I to relax your mind off and read a good book, but this is totally personal, but without passion this work is very difficult
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave Kash
    The biggest mistake to make is to overwork. Do not overwork, because you will feel down and tired at the end of your day. Instead set specific hours during the day to FOCUS on each of your tasks.
    Set a schedule suitable to your lifestyle.
    I will give you my personal one :

    1. wwake up at 6a.m and go to the gym/jog

    2. Meditate for 20 minutes

    3. Start my first task for 1.5 hours

    4. Take a 20 minute break

    5. Start my next task for 1.5 hours

    6. Take another 20 minute break

    7. Do my last task

    The key is to focus and eliminate distractions. If you focus and do specific tasks alone for that time period you can get A LOT done. And whats more, you can enjoy the rest of your day doing whatever you want once you have done your tasks.

    Just plan, and manage your time in a smart way!
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by Victor Donea View Post

    1. How do you work? Are you focusing on the discipline or productivity?
    2. Do you have any advice for a guy who's at the very beginning, and wishes to create empowering working habits?
    I have things i need to get done and deadlines when they need to be done.

    Every week, I have to record a podcast and write a newsletter and add a blog post. All of these have to be related but not identical subjects, because what I really want is for people to consume all of them. The newsletter is $20 a month, so that's the one I want people to pine away after. The podcast and blog post are still valuable enough to keep them around, and the donations-optional policy around those brings in some additional income.

    If I don't do these things, people will stop paying me. That would be bad.

    But the corollary is very, very important: I have to do maybe three hours of work every week. And that same three hours is being purchased by lots of people.

    It is absolutely, without doubt, a losing game to do an hour of work that only gets purchased by one person.

    That's the key. Work once, get paid over and over. If you have something one person will buy, you have something lots of people will buy. Do the work before you get paid, then sell it to lots of people. It's the same work. You're just being smarter about selling it.

    (This is also why it makes good financial sense for someone with a good money-making method to sell it for $7. Writing it down is something you do once. Using it yourself is something you do over and over. And you only have to do it a few times before you know enough to write a report on it, which you can then sell for $7 to a few thousand people. Why would you keep doing work every day when you can cash out to the tune of $20k and go do something else for a while? Let your customers go do the work.)
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  • Profile picture of the author jamescanz
    I write down what I need to do before I go to bed...

    Then wake up the next day and do what needs to get done.

    Getting rid of distractions helps a lot...

    Facebook, email, phone, etc
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  • Profile picture of the author TweetPilot
    Got to be honest, it's not something I've ever had an issue with mainly because I know if I don't work then I don't make money (sort of at least).

    I have lazy days and I have days where I get my head down for 10hrs and crack on with stuff but isn't that the whole reason people work for themselves? I think the problem is you're getting yourself too worked up about working.

    I'm sure you know that if you don't work then you don't earn. All of these motivational things (go to the gym at stupid o'clock in the morning to clear your mind) is utter rubbish as far as I am concerned. It might work for people, but trust me, I can't think of anything worse than waking up at 5am to then go an exercise... No thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author jbreeden
    I have found the best method is to create a set of tasks and a schedule.

    Create specific tasks for each working day of the week.
    Do not repeat the same task two days in a row (excluding email.)
    Create a task schedule on a calendar and work when inspired.

    I have found the best times is after my moringing coffee.

    Once my daily tasks are done I can then focus on my regular day to day activities.
    If I am so inclined on any given day to work more (When inspiration strikes then I can do so without pressure.)

    The key is to just build a schedule and then work your schedule until it becomes habit. (Normally about three weeks of forcing yourself.)
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  • Profile picture of the author AlexNeo2009
    Discipline and productivity both are important. You need to do exercise to increase your energy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Stirling
    It's all about making a plan you're excited about and then knocking off the
    'to-do's' on the checklist.

    The will might be there but if you wake up and don't know what you're
    going to do that day, you'll waste it away doing unproductive things.

    And @Brad Gosse nailed it. It's not about hours at all. It's about doing
    things that take you forward. Work smart not hard. All that.

    Good luck - once you're into a rhythm and have momentum, things
    get easier too!

    Stuart
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  • Profile picture of the author successproducts
    Sometimes you just let it go. Passion is the language of the soul and perhaps even if you force yourself and actually get something done - is that something you just had done critical to your end goal? I am sure it is not. So until you feel burning desire to do something probably it is not something you should do NOW any way. It seems you engage too much in should, ought or have to - anything that you do in life that is should, ought or have to because you had embarked on a wrong path. Choose correct path and there won't be any more question about why you haven't started.
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  • Profile picture of the author 1fundament
    As for me working online and making money is like a game.

    The main goal is to save princess and kill dragon .

    I work every day because I like what I'm doing. I can work 24/7 because it's my passion.

    This "game" is endless because I always raise the bar and try to do something new and interesting... And if my bank account this month is bigger than last months - it means I'm on the right way...

    Good luck, bros!
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketingMonk
    Each night, I put my top 3 tasks for the next day in Wunderlist. I get up around 8am, meditate for 10 minutes, play Elevate on my phone (mental training app), make a cup of tea/coffee, read a book for half an hour and then get to work.

    When I get to work, I know I have to do those top 3 things for the day to be successful. And these top 3 things aren't just anything, they have to be substantial and revenue generating activities.
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  • Profile picture of the author Curtis2011
    One of the benefits of IM is that with the right business model, you don't have to work every day - or even every month!

    Once you build a site that brings in SEO traffic consistently, you can slack off for awhile and still make money.

    I own websites that at times I haven't touched for 6 months straight and their earnings don't go down.
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  • Profile picture of the author Victor Donea
    Even though I am not replying to every one of you, every response is extremely helpful, and this thread is a gold mine!

    I've learned a lot, and I appreciate every tip you guys gave me.
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  • Profile picture of the author southcoaster
    Treat IM like a real job, make sure you do at least a 40 hour week, 5 days per week (you are not John Chow - yet). Organise tasks into a priority schedule (problems to fix as well as important money-making tasks) and develop the required self-discipline and concentration. A distraction free and quiet environment helps enormously with this...

    And when times get tough or you are feeling lonely - just remember how much it sucked having a boss breathing down your neck in your old 'proper' job
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    • Profile picture of the author Jen Eick
      Be results oriented. Look at how much you accomplish in a single day. If the answer is not much, or very little, what needs to be tweaked?

      Have a true game plan. I worked (hard!) every day, for a year, and accomplished nothing. Why? Because I told myself I was working, when really, I was spending my time entire time researching and investigating what I was supposed to be doing. Once I had a clear picture (the "light bulb moment," if you will), things became much different, and I had a game plan. Once you do, the time management strategies others are posting are the way to go. Your own system will vary depending on whether you're a day or night person, etc...but you WILL have to be disciplined enough to follow through.

      Oh, and honestly? Spend less time on Warrior Forum. Many days I set out to "work" were spent here. The end result? Entertainment, helping others, gaining knowledge from others...but not accomplishing my task at hand. Put it on the schedule to spend a certain amount of time here, then get to work.
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